Game Thread: May 24, 2008
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OK, so which one of you posted the first comment?
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/05/cleveland-gm-sh.html#comments
Tribe fan from far, far away
After reading those comments I think you’ve convinced me on why the world is being made dumber.
A person named baseballguru says:
I think they would have to do a three team trade and anything that would gain them value would start with Sizemore. Maybe you want to build around him, but it’s looking more like crumbling than building and he can get you three good pieces, rather than 1 great and two halves as it currently is.I would say a three team trade could make it work and I’d love to see Sizemore back in the NW since he grew up in the area and I followed him as an All-American type runningback. He would also be a good fit for Seattle with being left-handed and he could eventually replace Ichiro in CF.
Seattle
Ryan Feierabend, Jeff Clement, Oswaldo Navarro, Miguel Cairo, and Sean Green to Cleveland.
Doug Fister, and Richie Sexson to Colorado.
Colorado
Matt Holliday and Ian Stewart to Cleveland.
Todd Helton and Ryan Spilborghs to Seattle.
Cleveland
Grady Sizemore and Josh Barfield to Seattle.
Kelly Shoppach, Adam Miller, Rick Bauer, Ben Francisco, and Asdrubal Cabrera to Colorado.
Unbelievable.
Yeah, really. Imagine. Moving BARFIELD?! :-)
by Denver Tribe Fan on May 24, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
didn’t sizemore play qb? hate to question a guy who followed him so closely…
by DontCallMeJoey on May 24, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Some people seem to spend a lot of time reading rosters and coming up with preposterous trades they think make perfectly reasonable sense. “Let’s see…go down the Mariners’ roster and pull out a few more names…Cairo! He’s good, too!”
Why does anyone bother coming up with conjectural trades? Do they think Mark Shapiro reads their suggestions, and sees the wisdom of their astute reasoning? The GM thinks: Miguel Cairo? Damn, I hadn’t thought about him.
There seems to be an entire cottage industry of idiots coming up with implausible trades. Have any of these people noticed that such trades are rarely ever made? Where do you park these guys on the 40-man roster?
Forty-man roster? What’s that? The Indians get Matt Holliday!
by odradek on May 25, 2008 3:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Heading out shortly for lunch and to take the kids to the circus, so will miss the game. Wearing my Indians home shirt, GO TRIBE.
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on May 24, 2008 6:31 PM EDT reply actions
Oh, so you’ve gained access to the Tribe’s bullpen?
by gahnki on May 24, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is Marte still alive? Have we confirmed that fact?
Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.
What a throw from Matthews Jr. in the Sox-Angels game earlier…a must-see. Not Ankiel-like, but pretty sweet.
Actually who am I kidding, after drawing two walks yesterday it was inevitable that he was going to bat second today.
by supermarioelia on May 24, 2008 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
More Clinical Studies? If so, I want details tis time.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on May 24, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha nope, back to plain old book studyin.
by supermarioelia on May 24, 2008 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
“Book.” Is that what the kids are calling it these days?
by Denver Tribe Fan on May 24, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you, STO, for posting Cliffy’s ERA against the AL.
by Denver Tribe Fan on May 24, 2008 7:09 PM EDT reply actions
I know it’s been beaten to death, but Wedge’s insistence on giving Blake 4 ABs a night at third base is completely indefensible.
Il faut d'abord durer.
I just can’t wait for him to dip below .200….a nice big slump might force Shap to intervene.
by supermarioelia on May 24, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone else think Pronk’s cuts have looked better the last two nights? Or am I just grasping for something to be hopeful about?
by Denver Tribe Fan on May 24, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions
Cliff. The devil called. He said you can have your soul back.
by Denver Tribe Fan on May 24, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions
A lot like my childhood summers in Cleveland, I think.
by Denver Tribe Fan on May 24, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Inside Skinner’s head: I get yelled out when I don’t send them.
by Denver Tribe Fan on May 24, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions
Everyone is all over Wedge and Shelton all the time, but is there any coach more consistently wrong than Joel Skinner?
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on May 24, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Inside Skinner’s head, Part 2: Last time, Byrd threw it 15 feet over the catcher’s head.
by Denver Tribe Fan on May 24, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions
We need a new promotion at the Prog where one lucky fan gets to be 3rd base coach every home game. It can’t be worse.
by supermarioelia on May 24, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
what a horrible decision…seriously…..you send him with no down?
On second thought, i guess hes right. I definitely wouldnt want runners ont the corners with no down.
That was the point of my earlier post
by Denver Tribe Fan on May 24, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Right. My other response was going to be, “Aren’t you?”
by Denver Tribe Fan on May 24, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
At this point, my first instinct is always that Skinner will somehow screw this up.
by supermarioelia on May 24, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Skinner didn’t send Jhonny! Skinner didn’t send Jhonny!
by Denver Tribe Fan on May 24, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions
Hammy calls skinner “one of the best in the business”
Give Marte a Chance. FIRE SHELTON. Find Wedge a Hot Seat.
must be one of those games that they’re drinking in the booth
by Gradyforpresident on May 24, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
How many guys have we had thrown out at home this year? Can we break up the work of looking through boxscores by the week? Any interested? I’ll do week 1.
And by boxscores I mean play by play data.
by supermarioelia on May 24, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
hopefully ESPN uses “out at home” consistantly
Give Marte a Chance. FIRE SHELTON. Find Wedge a Hot Seat.
I’m just using the Yahoo play by play reports, and ctrl-Fing “home”.
by supermarioelia on May 24, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Bottom line for now, there’s been some ugly ones.
by supermarioelia on May 24, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
We’ll find a night with more willing participants to break up the work. Game 8 appears to be the only game in the first 11.
by supermarioelia on May 24, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Here’s the rest up until tonight, from a quick scan of Baseball Reference.
Aubrey was the fifth Indian thrown out at home. Game 8 was mentioned above. The others:
Game 18 @ MIN (Cabrera)
Game 28 vs. SEA (Blake)
Game 29 vs. SEA (Hafner)
However, we have recorded 6 outs at home since game 13 (I didn’t check the first 12). One was a force play (Game 42 at CIN, Garko to Vic forces Bako), and another appears to be bad baserunning (Game 30 vs KC, DeJesus was on third, no other runners, and was tagged by Vic on a comebacker to Sabathia.) We have four outfield assists from four outfielders:
Game 14 vs. BOS, Pedroia gunned down by Dellucci
Game 16 vs. DET, Sheffield thrown out by Michaels (!)
Game 39 vs. OAK, Thomas thrown out by Grady
Game 42 at CIN, Hairston nailed by Ben Fran
Aside: I used the word “at” twice in that. I had used the “at” symbol, but that produced the stupid formatting. Like this: ‘at stupid formatting at’ looks like this when using the ‘at’ symbol: stupid formatting
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on May 24, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
ACab really needs a hit. Really, really, really. I can only take so many “Nice at bats, no results.”
Il faut d'abord durer.
How many of you physically leaned to the left to will that ball down the line to be fair?
by Denver Tribe Fan on May 24, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
good to know that cliff lee isn’t good again
by Gradyforpresident on May 24, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions
Skinner gets into “Skinner Judgement Territory”
Give Marte a Chance. FIRE SHELTON. Find Wedge a Hot Seat.
i wish i could be shocked that blake is hitting 2nd
by Gradyforpresident on May 24, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions
I’m in love! I’m a believer!
Il faut d'abord durer.
by CU Adam on May 24, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
it’s really a shame jordan brown got hurt
by Gradyforpresident on May 24, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions
uh, i’m pretty sure ben fran did complain, right?
by Gradyforpresident on May 24, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions
about what? are you saying he shuldnt have last night? i dont quite understand what you are saying here…
nah hammy said he didn’t complain when he went down to AAA
by Gradyforpresident on May 24, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
sounded like Pronk really hit the shit out of his, too
by DontCallMeJoey on May 24, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
wait to cliff was hurt by bad luck earlier? ok i take it back
by Gradyforpresident on May 24, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions
Is Cliff actually good? I mean like actually good, as opposed to lucky or ridiculously whatever happened through his first 7 starts good, but like above average pitcher? I mean, this is his 3rd worst start of the season and it’s still a very good start. What do we make of this?
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
I hope Wedge leaves Cliffie in..I don’t trust anyone in the bullpen
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 24, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, I know
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 24, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
niiiiiice
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 24, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
16th HR of the year..for the entire team!
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
Manning mistakenly announced it as Peralta’s 16th HR of the year (it was his 16th RBI)
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 24, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
we’re at like 40 ding dongs as a team, which also is not good
by DontCallMeJoey on May 24, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Baby steps..
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 24, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
is that an amateur sketch of an alleged leprechaun in your avatar?
by DontCallMeJoey on May 24, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely – I think you’re just the 2nd person here to recognize it.
If anyone is curious, here is the leprechaun video
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 24, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
It must be a crackhead who got a hold of the wrong stuff..
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 24, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
brilliant work. kudos to you sir. “ee’rybody who seen the leprechaun say ‘YEAH’”
oh, and, nice outing clifford.
by DontCallMeJoey on May 24, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
YEAAAAAAAAH
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 24, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
you guys gotta see the remix rap song. I kind of made a whole party with “I want da gold” as its theme in college this year
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 24, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s Clifton.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on May 24, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I was going to say the same. Though 3 righties coming up.
by Denver Tribe Fan on May 24, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
If JoeBo comes in and shits the bed, I will lose all respect for the ENTIRE organization. He should not be put in there until they’re absolutely sure he’s ready. The whole process has seemed a bit rushed over the past week, as if we were desperate to get him back.
/rant
I would hope that activating him means they are absolutely sure he is ready.
by Denver Tribe Fan on May 24, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s the idea. Still, even when completely healthy, Borowski is probably 40% susceptible to “shitting the bed”. At least.
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 24, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
i would hope that wanting to amass as many victories as possible would mean that they never play him again, ready or no…but that’s just me
by DontCallMeJoey on May 24, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
You know how they operate. Joe is the closer, he’s going to close when he gets back. Now he’s back.
Plus the bullpen is depleted from last night, there is little confidence in RaffyR and none in Masa, it’s a 3-run lead (hopefully). It can’t be Mujica.
Thank goodness it’s three runs. And I really do hope Joe becomes servicable. I really do.
by supermarioelia on May 24, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
does Doug Jones still live in the 216 area code?
by DontCallMeJoey on May 24, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m pretty excited to hear the rationale for benching Marte tomorrow.
“Well ya know we did have some trouble there for a few games. Lot of the young guys were pressin a bit. I thought I’d go with a bit of a veteran presence so I went with Blake in the two-hole, and I really do think that sparked us. Of course he’ll be in there again tomorrow…you don’t mess with what gives you the W.”
if joebo gets up to 88 MPH…will he be sent back in time? please??
by DontCallMeJoey on May 24, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d rather have the bomb strapped to his back explode.
by supermarioelia on May 24, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
can i nominate “The Delorean” as an alternative nickname for JoeBo?
by DontCallMeJoey on May 24, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah that’s exactly what I want Joe to be facing.
by supermarioelia on May 24, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Except that he allowed a baserunner.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on May 24, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I need a blood thinner. Stat.
by supermarioelia on May 24, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Two things:
1) Borowski was horrid, but lucky. I’m not sure if it was mentioned on the broadcast, but in the later innings there was a pretty solid breeze blowing in from RF. I’m moderately certain that one of those shots (especially to RF) is gone in a normal wind.
2) I’m claiming credit for the victory. I wore the Marte jersey to the game this evening. That jersey is now 2-0 on the year. I don’t care if it makes no sense, I’m sticking with it.
i went to tonight’s game and have a few things that stood out
first, andy marte write left handed. they showed him on the jumbotron autographing a ball for a kid, and he was definitely writing with his left hand. i found that very odd.
second, borowski was lucky to get out unscathed. the radar gun at the park had him mostly at 85 with i think one 86. it was no warmer than the mid 40’s and the wind was blowing in pretty hard, but he still had 3 warning track fly balls. all 4 balls were hit hard. in july they tee off on him manny-style
third, hats off to the indians for the way they treated the make-a-wish child who was their special guest today. they let him throw out the first pitch, announce the indians hitters on the PA for an inning, and showed him taking BP and shagging flies before the game.
Ben Francisco = Cleanup hitter when Victor returns?
Dawgs By Nature - Find out why Pittsburgh still sucks.
also at the game tonight (first of the year!)
i’d add the hamilton was a joy to watch in the field. he caught a bunch of hard shots hit over his head and made one amazing throw on a flyball out near the warning track where grady tagged and went to 3rd. damn near got him. stadium was buzzing. stud throw on the order of the ankiel throws from last month. on the other hand, cliff really got in on him with the inside fastball.
milton looked great at the plate.
pronk and astro had their moments, as did jhonny. blake looked awful – and i mocked a highschooler wearing a blake jersey sitting in front of me. i’m not particularly proud of that. oh, and for what it’s worth, dellucci looked tired and slow. i know, i know . . .
there is significant fan anger directed at skinner. and wedge.
and, yes, as mpstable noted, borowski was very very lucky. had hamilton reached, bradley would have hit as the tying run. not a good scenario.
that game was some serious fun! living 2500 miles away is no fun …
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