Game Thread: May 25, 2008
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This is getting to be the most depressing part of every day for me.
The only players who have played in our last 9 games: Grady, BenFran…..and Casey Blake. Haha and he’s totally earned it too. Over his past 8 games: 3-23, .130 avg, .259 obp, .130 slg….yeah I’d say a 389 OBP warrants this treatment.
by supermarioelia on May 25, 2008 12:47 PM EDT reply actions
But that was such a cool unnecessary spin he did last night!
by supermarioelia on May 25, 2008 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
To me, the best argument in favor of playing Marte, the one that really doesn’t have a contra, is that Casey Blake - straight up - he’s not a major league starter anymore. Just isn’t. I’m beginning to wonder if he’s even a super-ute guy. I mean, yeah, he can play the corners, but he’s got to hit like he sort of belongs at at least ONE of them, right? If he can’t play a skill position, on a team with a legit 3-position outfielder and like 5 first basemen, do we really need him? For anything?
by fleerdon on May 25, 2008 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
If this somehow drags on until August, I’m nabbing a press pass for the Jays-Indians series, and Wedge will hear my wrath.
by supermarioelia on May 25, 2008 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah yes yes….my bad…geeez yelling that made me exaggerate Blake’s numbers by accident.
by supermarioelia on May 25, 2008 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Good News Dept.
This guy starting for TEX gave up 9 runs in just over 2 innings in his last (and only) start.
Give Marte a Chance. FIRE SHELTON. Find Wedge a Hot Seat.
And CC has worked his way into the top FORTY in AL ERA!
by Denver Tribe Fan on May 25, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I guess Frank could be a whale of a fourth outfielder. I just had higher hopes.
by fleerdon on May 25, 2008 12:58 PM EDT reply actions
Wait. Who’s our third outfielder now?
by Denver Tribe Fan on May 25, 2008 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
At the moment, it seems to me that Frank and Dave are multi-position platooning, with Grady and Ben playing full-time. I’m calling Frank “fourth” in the sense that Michaels was fourth.
by fleerdon on May 25, 2008 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Sizemore
BenFran
Pronk
VMart
Aubrey
Jhonny
Dellucci
Blake
Asdrubal
I like this lineup (given our offense, that is). Was I the only one secretly hoping for Wedge to switch VMart and BenFran in the order? Besides speed, Victor would be a nice guy to bat behind Grady
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
Yeah I agree with this…might as well put BenFran’s slugging to use.
by supermarioelia on May 25, 2008 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Eeeeh, as much as it pains me to say it, Victor sans slugging is not really a top- or meat-of-the-order hitter, because he can’t run. That’s not to say he’s never going to slug again, but if just two or three more guys were playing in the neighborhood of their career lines, I think Vic would be a candidate to get bumped down.
by fleerdon on May 25, 2008 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
CC has been really good in the past month, by the way (43.1 IP, 8ER, 51K)
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Not really – I’m still convinced he’s the best pitcher in the AL (nothing related to that inning, just my opinion overall)
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Put your recs where your mouth is.
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by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Speakin of Choo, what the heck is with his reverse splits so far? 1 for 16 on the season against righties, and 6 for 12 with a homer and a couple doubles against lefties. No way they bring him up if he can’t hit righties. Unless they plan on reverse platooning him and BenFran haha.
If I remember right, Choo didn’t have much of an average split, but he had a really empty line against lefties.
by fleerdon on May 25, 2008 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
My open question of the week: How long is Garko’s leash? Do we really need two first basemen?
by fleerdon on May 25, 2008 1:11 PM EDT reply actions
Sure can. I think he’s got at least one option left.
by fleerdon on May 25, 2008 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Can someone please explain something about options to me? Neyer says this about options:
“One common misconception about the rules is that a player may only be “optioned out” three times. Actually, each player has three option years, and he can be sent up and down as many times as the club chooses within those three seasons.
When you hear that a player is “out of options,” that means he’s been on the 40-man roster during three different seasons, beginning with his fourth as a pro, and to be sent down again he’ll have to clear waivers.”
So when people say “one option left” do you mean this is the last season during which he can be sent down?
by Denver Tribe Fan on May 25, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds right to me..
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by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
So when people say "one option left" do you mean this is the last season during which he can be sent down?
Not exactly. It means he has one more season. It doesn’t have to be this year. Lee was optioned after he had been in the majors for four years.
This gets further complicated when the player has five full years of MLB service.
I have a feeling we’re sitting on a trade, of the multi-player type. Lots of signs pointing that way – Shap openly discussing it, obvious needs, logjams at several positions, fringe players out of options, a sense that the division is still winnable but there is something fundamentally wrong with this team…..
Yo never want to underestimate Shapiro’s ability to do nothing, of course, but I’m expecting some news.
If he can figure out how to do that with some sort of consistency, teams would probably start taking the shift off, letting Hafner slowly break out of his slump…maybe?!
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by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s…what she said?
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Are these the same announcers you guys get for every game???
I only get to see the weekend day games (live in Buffalo) on my cable, and only get these announcers. If I had to listen to them every game I would consider suicide.
When I think it’s getting bad I just keep remembering ”..at least I’m not a white sox fan, at least I’m not a white sox fan..”
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by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Jim Donovan (the one with the girly voice) only does WKYC games, basically the Sunday day games. The rest of the week (on STO) his place is taken by the eloquent Matt Underwood. Manning we get all the time. Feel our pain.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on May 25, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Underwood only does home games, I think, which is all I get to hear of Tribe announcers since I watch MLB.tv. He’s bad.
Il faut d'abord durer.
Not any more. He left the radio team when STO was invented. The radio is Tom Hamilton and Mike Hegan; I don’t know who occupies Underwood’s old #3 position.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on May 25, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Nobody occupies Underwood’s old #3 radio job- radio is now only Hammy and Hegan. And Underwood does all the TV games only on STO with Manning, not just home games.
Free Andy Marte!
by woodsmeister on May 25, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Strained exterior hip muscle, I believe. Better than an interior, for whatever that is worth. He can maybe start playing catch in a week. All things considered, this might not be too bad, seeing as it might save his arm a bit. Of course, Laffey and Westbrook need to be strong, and the offense needs to get going.
Il faut d'abord durer.
I understand that Asdrubal is really struggling, but I feel as though treating him like a pitcher isn’t going to help anything.
Il faut d'abord durer.
True, but I think a bunt in that situation is the right call. There is only one out now and here come our best hitters.
I think there are actually very few situations when a bunt is a good strategy.
by Denver Tribe Fan on May 25, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Manning made it sound like strike two was some sort of foul tip, but it looked to me like BenFran held up.
by supermarioelia on May 25, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
So if someone told you on March 31 that the Indians would have the AL Pitcher of the Month for April and May, you would have said, “Well of course, Lee and Laffey.”
Laffey has two losses in May, and some Red Sox guy threw a no-hitter. And people are stupid and easily led. I do not anticipate a second Pitcher of the Month in Cleveland.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on May 25, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe, but I think the two of them are in another stratosphere of crappiness.
by supermarioelia on May 25, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
As bad as he’s been, I still have a smidgen of hope during his atbats. With Shoppach and Looch I have zero expectations.
by supermarioelia on May 25, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah
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by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
On the replay you can see that it hits the middle of the black scoreboard in the wall – I’d say about halfway up the wall.
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by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Just got here, YES
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on May 25, 2008 2:12 PM EDT reply actions
For those that are concerned about Byrd pitching tomorrow against the Sox for the second time in a week:
The last ten times that Byrd has faced the same opponent in the same week, he’s allowed equal or fewer runs in each of those ten. So the good news is he’s not allowing more than 5 runs tomorrow.
Is Westbrook going to start on Wednesday or are we going to have to call up Sowers again?
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by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
yup – quite a precipitous fall. Though I have two friends, one who was at $37 and the other at $24, who both lost their money as well. It is very, very easy to get cocky and careless with sports betting. Especially sports betting with fake money!
How are you doing on there?
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by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I know what you mean. I was at an all time high of $7 two days ago. Now I’m at about $3. I’m trying to crawl back up, but these last few days have frustrated me. I’m considering putting all my money I have left on the Lakers tonight and just hoping to get lucky.
Right now, I have 50 cents on a Yankees/Indians parlay and I put some cash on a supposedly surefire MLS bet.
I have found that it’s better to just enjoy following the games instead of gettting caught up in the money. Much less frustrating.
I have found that it’s better to just enjoy following the games instead of gettting caught up in the money. Much less frustrating.
It certainly seems that way. I’m a Heat fan so my NBA playoffs viewership has been very neutral (though I was definitely pulling for CP3). I thought centsports would help me get into it more but I found that I enjoy the games more when I just watch and enjoy as opposed to cheering for over/unders or point spreads.
That friend who was over $30 didn’t do so naturally, by the way. There were a lot of glitches with soccer betting (in the champions league), such that he was able to somehow get 4-game parlay odds (with a multiplier over 15) on 2 separate individual games, and won them both. The result was that he won $16 on two $1 bets.
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by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I made some MLB money, because their line supplier had a glitch. Even against great pitchers the O/U would be 9. There was a Brandon Webb/ Jake Peavy matchup (I believe) and the line was 9. Too good to pass up with those two pitchers.
Unfortuantely, he system worked some things out, and now the lines are much more believeable.
I was going to make a FanPost out of this, but does Garko even practice behind the plate anymore? And is there not a use to trying to get him servicable back there with how Shoppach is looking behind the plate? If he’s a lost cause, fine, but this is something I never hear about.
Sorry, meant how Shoppach is looking at the plate. He looks fine behind the plate. Most of the time.
by supermarioelia on May 25, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
sss what? shoppach’s crapiness at the plate?
by supermarioelia on May 25, 2008 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is why I corrected my post. Any other insight you’d like to share?
by supermarioelia on May 25, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Now boys, let’s get off the playground
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by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha this is valid. I guess I’m more wondering if Garko ever turns it around and Shoppach continues to flail, has the organization officially closed the book on Garko being anything more than an emergency 3rd catcher?
by supermarioelia on May 25, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
My guess is he is a lost cause as a catcher. I think they would have kept him as an option (i.e. they would have worked him back there every once in a while during past season) if to only keep his value as a trade able commodity up.
I think it’d be a shame if they don’t work him out behind the plate between games…unless of course he acknowledged to them that he knew he could never become adequate behind the plate on a regular basis.
by supermarioelia on May 25, 2008 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree, he’d be quite valuable as a catcher if he was able to be even just below avg. defensively. But alas, my guess is he’s terrible defensively.
And he must be beyond repair too, because we saw how extra work can help defensively with Vic. But my guess is that Vic at his worst was still better than anything Garko can offer.
by supermarioelia on May 25, 2008 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m making an inference here, but I think Garko is likily available to catch only in a pinch (freak injury to both Vic and Shoppach in a game or something)......Although I betcha Blake has been working on his catching ability so he can start robbing at-bats from victor once he gets tired of robbing Marte.
We’re going to worry about Kelly’s bat because of a handful of games? That’s just silly.
Even sillier is that idea that putting Garko behind the plate would be the answer. Garko’s worst stretch of the season was a lot worse than Shoppach’s, and his defense was never any good.
A handful of games? I know it’s scattered but here are his stats since last July:
29-153, .190 avg, .220 obp, .313 slg, .533 ops.
Granted we may not expect anything more out of our bakcup catcher, fine. But what I’m saying is that it would be wonderful if Garko were to heat up and be available if they wanted to give Vic a day off behind the plate.
All I’m wondering is what reason have they given for not at least working out Garko behind the plate between games? Is he a lost cause back there? Does he admit this himself? I don’t think that being content with Shoppach as our backup is a sufficient answer.
by supermarioelia on May 25, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s still only 153 at-bats, it’s six weeks for a starter. Still not a big deal.
Anyway, if you’re going to worry about something, worry about the strikeouts.
Garko was never going to be a good catcher. He may have worked himself into being a decent one with 5-6 starts a week, but how good do you think he’ll be after not having played the position in three years?
Oh he’s probably atrocious now, beyond repair. I wonder if there was ever any consideration of him at least catching in simulated games, at least as a sort of hobby.
by supermarioelia on May 25, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
someone mentioned this in a prior gamethread, i think, but i agree that grady’s arm seems a bit stronger and less of a short-arm release. he’s managed, perhaps, to improve on a weakness.
I think he was at 55 coming into the inning, so probably closer to 70 – if I had to guess.
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by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
From Jay’s post on the front page right now:
For any other team, having a starter of Carmona’s caliber go down would be seen as catastrophic, but at least on this site, Indians fans hardly registered any alarm at all
This is incredibly telling and true. I didn’t get a chance to watch the game in which Fausto got injured (I guess I could say I was fortunate), but when I read that Fausto was DL’ed after the game, it didn’t even register in my mind as a problem.
I just hope we all realize how fortunate we are with this pitching staff.
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Losing starters for a month has become old hat over the past couple of years. It almost feels weird when we have a full rotation.
by supermarioelia on May 25, 2008 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Now we just have to figure out how to get Byrd to miss a month. Get CC, Fausto, Jake, Cliff and Laffey pitching – that could be a historically great rotation.
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by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
that is the DEFINITION of showing up an umpire
Give Marte a Chance. FIRE SHELTON. Find Wedge a Hot Seat.
Really; no debate at all.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on May 25, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus, he must have said something
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by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently he made a dismissive gesture at the third base ump after getting wrongly rung up for strike 3 by same 3b ump and was run out of the game by the home plate ump.
Free Andy Marte!
by woodsmeister on May 25, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Argued with the 3B ump for a second about a check-swing call.
Home plate ump tossed him. Seemed pretty arbitrary and unnecessary.
I didn’t think the gesture was that bad, so I assume he must have said something that would not fly on this board anymore.
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by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
sounds like the HP ump was falling behind in tossings in his fantasy ump’ing league
by DontCallMeJoey on May 25, 2008 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Interesting. Then was it the hand wave or the check swing reenactment that got him tossed? Probably the combination of both. I did not have a problem with that.
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by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone got a CC pitch count update?
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Very helpful, I appreciate that.
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I evaluated 5-6 different “gamecenter” widgets on various sites last season, really like sportsline better than any of the others.
i use sportsline for everything except baseball, for which i use the mlb.com tool
by DontCallMeJoey on May 25, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I had been getting into mlb.com gameday as well, but I noticed they will have lags every couple of innings and then just zoom through the info they missed..it’s kind of weird
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by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
How’s CC look out there? Numbers are obviously good, and he seems strong watching the gamecast, but what’s the impression actually watching him?
wow…gamecast says he just dusted Salt on 3 straight 95 MPH heaters. love it. this feels like CC from 2H ‘06 and ‘07
by DontCallMeJoey on May 25, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s looked in command. Obviously his pitch count is pretty low and that is probably a result of lower than usual K totals. Wow that was a nice K though.
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by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I think being under 100 through 7 is relatively low, but that could be just me. Not exceptionally low, but pretty low. ‘Come out for another inning’ low.
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by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Q: What do you get when you cross Franklin Gutierrez with Ben Francisco?
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on May 25, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Grady – steal here please!
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Yah Grady – I think he could have made it home there
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by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
must a bad throw? or did it hit g-size?
by DontCallMeJoey on May 25, 2008 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Bad throw (on a pitchout), skipped into CF.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on May 25, 2008 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Looked like a bad throw but the camera angle wasn’t great. Anyways, Grady seemed to be be hitting third while the ball was still 10 feet away from Byrd in CF.
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by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
wow…make him do it again
and also, maybe send a turkey sandwich my way…
by DontCallMeJoey on May 25, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
GOD DAMMIT
"Albert Belle blooped the ball over the fence." -- Atlanta Braves manager Bobby Cox after Game 5 of the 1995 World Series
This time machine made watching that really anti-climactic.
by supermarioelia on May 25, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
There is something wrong with Victor. There is no reason he should have this lack of power. My god I am crushed in every sense of the word.
That swing actually gave me some hope for Vic’s power.
by supermarioelia on May 25, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow thought that was gone
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on May 25, 2008 3:18 PM EDT reply actions
Good thing they took CC out. He was really pitching horribly.
And now the Texas announcers won’t stop bitching about how slow Betancourt works.
doesn’t that have to be a “want to go back out CC?” situation? cruising like he was, i can’t see wedge taking the ball out of his hand…but maybe i give wedge too much credit. keeping CC in the game probably wouldn’t have been fair to Casey Blake
by DontCallMeJoey on May 25, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Zee-row.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on May 25, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know why you attempt a bunt with a guy who cannot bunt.
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Because we apparently insist on learning our lesson over and over and over and over again.
by supermarioelia on May 25, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Rick Manning is a fucking idiot. I’m sorry for swearing, but if you want Jhonny to bunt with two strikes, then yeah, I’m gonna swear.
I’m probably much more disposed towards bunting that most of you, but I just don’t see how this team can ever afford to give away outs. Especially with LaDouchey on deck.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
If Jhonny puts that bunt down, we’d get a chance to see Mr. Clutch bat with a RISP.
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by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright, although Jhonny may be to blame for not improving his bunting since the last time we saw him do this, how does Wedge not know that he still sucks? He’ll complain in the post-game that guy didn’t do the little things, but then don’t put your guys in a position you know they’ll fail in!
+1. You gotta know your guys. If you wanna bunt, pinch hit Carroll.
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by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Putting your guys in a position they can fail in gives your guys chances to turn their failures around. A good coach would have Peralta bunting a lot in practice, which Wedge probably has. Peralta probably improved this, and because of that, Wedge had Peralta bunt in that situation. Peralta had a chance to turn his failures around, but couldn’t do it in the pressure of a real game. When Peralta is able to bunt that ball, he, and Wedge, will know he has overcome a failure.
bullsh*t…you have to try to win games at this point, not experiment with people’s weaknesses and give them a high five for a “nice effort”. if you’re bunting, put someone who is not Peralta at the plate. hell, he’s our HR leader!!
by DontCallMeJoey on May 25, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Just talked to my brother at the game. He thinks Wedge just likes to embarass Jhonny, which actually would fit right in with the Marte theories.
My version of that theory would be, he can’t stand watching Jhonny have a regular at-bat anyway, so it’s always tempting to ask him to bunt.
I was gonna say – if this is true (how could we know?) Wedge is just, well, unfit to manage, right?
my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.
What would the subsequent move be? Choo?
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by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
You probably read above where I said this, but unless Choo starts to show any signs of hitting righties I can’t see him getting the call.
by supermarioelia on May 25, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I imagine the Shapiro-Wedge relationship like a long, extended breakup. Right now they’re in the phase where Shapiro hates everything Wedge does, but talks himself out of ending the relationship every night.
Right now he’s saying “Fuck, Wedgie’s bunting again! What the hell? It’s so over. But then again, if i fire him, I won’t have a date to the All-Star game, and I think he still has my O-Town Cd…”
by Chemo on May 25, 2008 3:40 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I’m starting to think of Masa as a sort of Asian JoeBo more and more every day…you wonder how the hell he gets out of these jams with pretty weak stuff.
I wish JoeBo were the Asian JoeBo. He’d make a good Carp.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on May 25, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I need a 2 run HR this inning – I took the Indians at -1.5
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Your bet is looking better than mine at this poin.
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
It can’t be a joke, because Mario and I never make unfunny jokes.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on May 25, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
FaustosSinkingFastball just swore at his computer.
by supermarioelia on May 25, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Even Wedge isn’t dumb enough to bunt here.
by Denver Tribe Fan on May 25, 2008 3:46 PM EDT reply actions
Here comes your two run dinger Jake
Still an Ohio boy through and through!
by TribeLoverInNewYork on May 25, 2008 3:48 PM EDT reply actions
Either here or BenFran – beyond that I have no hope
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Beyond BenFran is the 10th inning.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on May 25, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
This could be a really fitting way to end this series.
by Denver Tribe Fan on May 25, 2008 3:50 PM EDT reply actions
Here it comes
Still an Ohio boy through and through!
by TribeLoverInNewYork on May 25, 2008 3:51 PM EDT reply actions
After all, most home runs are hit on 3-2 counts, right?
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on May 25, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m reccing this in the hopes it comes true.
by supermarioelia on May 25, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Or not!
Still an Ohio boy through and through!
by TribeLoverInNewYork on May 25, 2008 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
Why does everybody worry about C.C.?
Screw him and his “wins.” We’re playing for wins in the standings here, not wins on the scoresheet.
DRINK.
by Jay on May 25, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
REC REC REC
I have no sympathy for the guy.
by supermarioelia on May 25, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Friends shouldn’t let friends be in fantasy leagues that give points for pitchers’ Ws.
by Denver Tribe Fan on May 25, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
he’ll be gone soon anyway and then we’ll be booing him mercilessly
There's always next year...and the next year...and the next year...
by HireRockyColavito on May 25, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t care about any pitcher’s “wins.” Or saves. Or complete games or shutouts.
No-hitters, maybe, but that’s historic.
With our bullpen, I confess that I care about complete games.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on May 25, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
will you really boo him? if he goes to take down a 7 year, $150mm contract, i certainly won’t begrudge him that. as long as he springs for a cheeseburger or two
by DontCallMeJoey on May 25, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
If he’s playing for a division rival? Hell yes.
People don’t understand the booing, but it really just means the player was important to us. Nobody booed Scott Elarton when he returned with the Royals, and he walked for the money, too.
that would be more of a boo b/c he plays for the Tigers, though, right? and less b/c he walked for more dough?
the people who get booed are undoubtedly the ones we cared enough about to be pissed that they left…but i wouldn’t have booed Elarton for chasing the Kwan…good for him, in my mind.
by DontCallMeJoey on May 25, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Because pitchers worries about wins because teams, on some level, care about wins and use them to determine a pitcher’s worth ($$$).
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
What did CC do to deserve this?
That was the original post. You don’t have to care, but it sucks for CC.
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet CC doesn’t care about his own W/L record, at least not much. It’s not like he going to win 20 games this season anyway.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on May 25, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m going to make Dunkin Donuts vanilla hazzlenut coffee right now
my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.
My respect for the general population here is plummeting.
Flavored coffees? Really?
by Jay on May 25, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t use cream or sugar, so, at least I man up there. And this bag was bought on whim. I’m actually a vanilla hazzlenut einstein’s guy…oh what the hell. Yeah, I like vanilla coffee.
my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.
+1 on vanilla hazelnut Einstein. I live on that stuff at school.
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a personal mantra that I don’t trust people who don’t drink coffee. “I just don’t like being addicted to something, you know?” Then they cruise off in their prius. You just can’t get ANYTHING done without coffee.
my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.
I’ve never met a Prius driver who doesn’t drink coffee, Mr. Stereotype.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on May 25, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s the hazzlenuts that make the difference.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on May 25, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Jake and Gahnki: Thanks for informing me via this feed about centsports, I think I could have a lot of fun with that.
Got in a fight with Joel Skinner, was injured by a charging Jhonny Peralta coming in from third.
by FaustosSinkingFastball on May 25, 2008 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
Of course – wanna be my cronie?
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I signed up already…is your name the same as it is here?
Got in a fight with Joel Skinner, was injured by a charging Jhonny Peralta coming in from third.
by FaustosSinkingFastball on May 25, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Mine, as most people’s is, is just my name.
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
There are two people with your name…
Got in a fight with Joel Skinner, was injured by a charging Jhonny Peralta coming in from third.
by FaustosSinkingFastball on May 25, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s interesting. I’m the one with only ten cents (soon to be zero) who bet on the Indians today.
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you see the campaign they had on the front page to recruit Bill Simmons to centsports? I wonder if it worked, it seems like he’d love that kind of thing.
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw a segment on E:60 (which is actually a fantastic show) where he created a prop bet on LeBron. It was quite interesting.
The thing is I don’t want Bill Simmons to check it out. The sooner it hits mainstream the less cronies that are out there for me.
Simmons would generate a ton of revenue for the site – he would link to it in his mailbag and, suddenly, it would be huge. With all those new users would come more bugs, glitches and problems. Additionally, I am pretty sure they would reduce the cronie payout and make the cashout threshold higher (which they’ve done already once in the 2 months I’ve been on the site).
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
If I get over $20, I’m cashing out right away, just to make sure it’s legit. We all wanna know!
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
If the go to a righty here, what does Wedge do with the Carroll spot?
Carroll vs RHP: .133/.291/.178
Garko vs RHP: .208/.286/.358
Marte vs RHP: POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS
crap, if they score 1 run we basically lose
There's always next year...and the next year...and the next year...
by HireRockyColavito on May 25, 2008 4:05 PM EDT reply actions
not getting any details on gamecast yet…help?
by DontCallMeJoey on May 25, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Single to right. Got through Ben Fran’s legs
by Denver Tribe Fan on May 25, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Single to right, basically just bounced right by Ben Fran’s glove and rolled to the wall.
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Take my word for it, you don’t want any details.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on May 25, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Texas announcers just used the phrase “Ben Francisco Treat”
by Denver Tribe Fan on May 25, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions
It’s official. Ben is now a member of the 2008 Indians. He’s finally passed the initiation.
Free Andy Marte!
game. set. match. we scored 1 run all game. 1 run in one inning is nigh impossible with these guys
There's always next year...and the next year...and the next year...
by HireRockyColavito on May 25, 2008 4:07 PM EDT reply actions
Hafner BB, Martinez first major league HR will suffice. Could happen.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on May 25, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe last year
There's always next year...and the next year...and the next year...
by HireRockyColavito on May 25, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I keep telling myself the season is young and this cannot last forever. Yet it’s lasting forever.
The Chicago series starting tomorrow might determine whether the Indians are buyers or sellers. I know it’s early, but Cleveland cannot afford to be swept.
Was Salta heading to 3rd on that play? It almost seemed like Ben sped up right as the ball was coming to him.
I like that high ERA for Wilson but I suppose it doesn’t matter for us.
"Albert Belle blooped the ball over the fence." -- Atlanta Braves manager Bobby Cox after Game 5 of the 1995 World Series
Yeah, that’s against major league hitting.
by Denver Tribe Fan on May 25, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Did Brick tell you guys how a White Sox fan told him not to look at Carlton Fisk’s picture while peeing and instead look at his own (Brick’s) dick?
Yeah, look at your dicks.
That’s weird. I assume there was a photo over the urinal? Or did Brick bring one into the men’s room to help him pee?
I am very suspicious that the specifics would stop you from being creeped out.
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
If Brick had his dick in his hand while looking at a picture of Carlton Fisk, let me just say I’m glad he was peeing.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on May 25, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s just the type of play that makes me mad. You are in a tight game and you take your focus off like that? Those are the little things that make the big problems look even worse.
He was thinking about the HR they took away from him on Friday
by Denver Tribe Fan on May 25, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
If that were Peralta, he would be benched for 2-3 games.
by Jay on May 25, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
See, people refer to the little things all the time. I don’t consider this a little thing. It’s like in the NBA, when Tayshaun Prince had that game winning block against Orlando, people kept saying how Prince does the little things. That block was no little thing.
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
That’s true. Little things should be replaced with expected things. You are expected to make that play in high school yet alone in the Majors.
by gahnki on May 25, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
im sorry i just cannot envision a plausible scenario where we win this game
There's always next year...and the next year...and the next year...
by HireRockyColavito on May 25, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply actions
How many times have you said to yourselves, this would be a great time for _ to break out of it?
by Denver Tribe Fan on May 25, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply actions
then they don’t and you feel empty inside? yep…
There's always next year...and the next year...and the next year...
by HireRockyColavito on May 25, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Fear the 2 out walk!
Got in a fight with Joel Skinner, was injured by a charging Jhonny Peralta coming in from third.
by FaustosSinkingFastball on May 25, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply actions
Theirs led to a run. Ours..we’ll see
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, it may be over, but if my Reds-Cardinals-White Sox Parlay comes through, you’ll profit.
Got in a fight with Joel Skinner, was injured by a charging Jhonny Peralta coming in from third.
by FaustosSinkingFastball on May 25, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
texas announcers are very annoying
There's always next year...and the next year...and the next year...
by HireRockyColavito on May 25, 2008 4:16 PM EDT reply actions
Holy shit if we go to the 11th, Marte will play. Wedge is going to have Jhonny bunt here to ensure that doesn’t happen.
by supermarioelia on May 25, 2008 4:16 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Well, there goes another 50 cents.
I just made up my mind. Jake. I’m going to put all my cash on the Lakers getting 5.5. I may soon be joing you at the free money line.
Hey man, I’ll play along – going for a solidarity bet. Though I’m tempted to take them on the moneyline.
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
How’s this: They are better, faster, younger and less tired than the Spurs. They also won by 30 the last game. I know it’s not the best logic, but I think the end of the Spurs regime should end in dramatic, sweep or 5 game series loss fashion.
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
As long as the Spurs regime ends, I really don’t care how it happens.
Free Andy Marte!
by woodsmeister on May 25, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I live in Columbus – I just can’t stand the Spurs. They’re too good of a basketball team to carry on with the flopping and whining and thuggery they get away with.
Free Andy Marte!
by woodsmeister on May 25, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I just put all my money on the Lakers.
The Yankees just came back and stole the game from the Mariners. If the Tribe would have won I would have won that parlay bet. I have a newfound respect for adding insult to injury.
At least that soccer game I bet on worked out for me. Chicago is leading New York 5-0 right now. That nets me 70 cents. So I won’t be completely poor.
Wow. I had been betting on Champion’s League, as well as EPL, La Liga and Italian Serie A, but MLS? I wouldn’t know where to begin.
By the way, you may as well wait to make your NBA bet until your soccer money gets processed..
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
That sucked or should that be continues to suck
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on May 25, 2008 4:17 PM EDT reply actions
BRING ON FOOTBALL SEASON!
There's always next year...and the next year...and the next year...
by HireRockyColavito on May 25, 2008 4:17 PM EDT reply actions
It takes ineptitude from lots of folks to lose games like this. Which in no way excuses Francisco.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on May 25, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
True, and we’ve been saying this every game the team fails to score runs. Ultimately, you have to do the best in the situation you are dealt. Despite scoring one run, we still had a good chance of winning the game. Until that happened.
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
by the way, the dictionary.com word of the day is listless
by Gradyforpresident on May 25, 2008 4:18 PM EDT reply actions
no way we make the playoffs this year if we continue like this… NO WAY
There's always next year...and the next year...and the next year...
by HireRockyColavito on May 25, 2008 4:19 PM EDT reply actions
really stepping out on a limb there, Rock
by DontCallMeJoey on May 25, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Cheer up Ben, the rest of your team sucks way worse than you do.
by supermarioelia on May 25, 2008 4:19 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
We just lost while holding the Rangers to two runs with Josh Hamilton being thrown out of the game. And we lost the series in the process. At home.
Free Andy Marte!
by woodsmeister on May 25, 2008 4:20 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
and we have lost 3 straight series
There's always next year...and the next year...and the next year...
by HireRockyColavito on May 25, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
including 2 sweeps and a whole heap of suckitude
by DontCallMeJoey on May 25, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the first day that I’m officially scared. Andrew said it earlier – the Indians are sick and they’re not getting better.
my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.
I’m not scared at all. Our SP is ridiculous, and the Tigers are even worse than us. There’s no way the White Sox can keep up their pace, and the Twins/Royals are young and a non-factor.
The hitting will start up soon. We just need to remove some dead weight. Dellucci will be gone soon and something will happen with Blake.
i wish we had sucked in 07. that would make 08 a lot more tolerable
There's always next year...and the next year...and the next year...
by HireRockyColavito on May 25, 2008 4:23 PM EDT reply actions
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You know, I was just thinking. Why was Francisco even in right? He had just ended the inning and he wasn’t going to hit for awhile. That is the perfect time for a defensive Gutz substitution.
Tom Hamilton: “We’ll have the highlights – that won’t take long. We’ll have the manager’s comments – that ought to be interesting.”
Free Andy Marte!
Hey we’ve won 1 of our past 2 games. That’s pretty good.
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 25, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
kevin keane on the postgame show just said perhaps the stupidest thing he has ever said (and that is really saying something). to paraphrase:
first thing is cut andy marte. i believe in karma and respecting the game, and the fact that you kept this guy on your roster out of spring training when he didnt deserve it or earn it means the baseball gods are not gonna give you any breaks
he then blamed francisco’s error today and the blown call on the HR friday night on andy marte. then he suggested having a starting middle infield of cabrera and barfield, with peralta being permanently benched. wow. even typing that just made me dumber.
he did say something not completely idiotic though, which was to cut looch when choo comes back.
by mpstable on May 25, 2008 4:52 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I repeat from an earlier thread – the current state of scientific technology is not such that you will be able to grow back the brain cells that just killed themselves rather than continue to listen to Kevin Keane. Or Greg Brinda. Or Kenny whatshisname. Or Bruce I Love Ya Cleveland.
Please, I implore you, don’t do it. You owe it to yourselves. You owe it to your families.
Free Andy Marte!
by woodsmeister on May 25, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Got back from the game a while ago. Stewed for a bit. Read this thread.
Boy, at least it was a peach of a day for a ball game (maybe the best of the year so far). If nothing else, it was fantastic to relax, soak up the sun and watch another rookie pitcher look like ‘68 model Bob Gibson.
Still, we can sweep the Sox starting tomorrow and start to reverse all of this in a hurry. Right?
--
Have to wake up bats!
My only real gripe about the game was bunting Peralta in the 8th. Eric and co. know that is not his strong suit, so why put him in a position to fail? A wasted at bat in a game where one at bat could have made the difference.
Anyways, the say bad teams find a new way to lose every night. The Indians must not be a bad team, because they lose the same damn way .. every night.
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