Game Thread: May 27, 2008
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Sizemore – CF
Caroll – 2B
Francisco – LF
Martinez – C
Peralta – DH
Garko – 1B
Gutierrez – RF
Marte – 3B
Cabrera – SS
Castrovince: One thing I do know is that Andy Marte will survive tonight’s cut, because Wedge announced - shockingly - that he plans to start playing Marte more this week, taking advantage of Casey Blake’s versatility and the now-open DH spot.
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Have to wake up bats!
designated limp verbing noodle.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on May 27, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
It took a Pronk injury, not a Blake sucking, to get Marte playing time. Unbelievable.
by supermarioelia on May 27, 2008 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone have a good reason why they cancelled Taradise?
by afh4 on May 27, 2008 6:47 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah someone was bound to put that right back in my face. Better in the pregame I guess.
by supermarioelia on May 27, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Jay? Do you see how this newb is talking to me?
BAN CITY = UNDERPANTS NEW HOMERUN CALL.
by afh4 on May 27, 2008 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The truth behind why Marte is discriminated against, finally exposed.
by supermarioelia on May 27, 2008 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
No, but you have to be better at betting than I am to amass more to bet. (Actually, I’m sitting at 43 cents going into tonight!!!).
by Fundamentals on May 27, 2008 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
A free ten cents, that can be renewed at any time when you lose out.
by Fundamentals on May 27, 2008 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
SO if Marte doesn’t have an obnoxiously awesome game does he go back to the domino game in the dugout? How well does he have to play for Wedge to notice he’s there because I’m convinced someone else filled out the lineup card tonight and when Wedge actually sees it he might ask who Marte is.
I’m actually pretty surprised Wedge gave Andy the call after Blake’s big night. He’s been known to overlook terrible career numbers against Buerhle in the past.
by supermarioelia on May 27, 2008 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it’s safe to say everyone is a little surprised to see Andy in the lineup
by Tribe_Hippie on May 27, 2008 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Her face isn’t much, but she has some pretty nice cans (of corn).
by supermarioelia on May 27, 2008 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
This is some pretty serious incentive to never talk about boobs again. Point taken.
by supermarioelia on May 27, 2008 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Without beard…..and I’m officially throwing Mr. Incredible from “The Incredibles” into the ring as well
by Tribe_Hippie on May 27, 2008 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Sizemore – CF .254
Carroll – 2B .214
Francisco – LF .338
Martinez – C .305
Peralta – DH .218
Garko – 1B .233
Gutierrez – RF .234
Marte – 3B .115
Cabrera – SS .182
Bench – Aubrey .200, Blake .221, Shoppach .219, Hafner .217, Dellucci .228
MMM MMM bad
I’m just gonna assume the local boy scout troops reserved the entire upper level tonight then got in a bus accident on the way to the ballpark
by Tribe_Hippie on May 27, 2008 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Brick you time machining tonight? Andrew too?
by supermarioelia on May 27, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I do have time machine abilities. But I’m also going to go work out. Also, in the future, Chlamydia is curable!
Yeah but I hear chicks really enjoy getting Pelvic Inflammatory Disease, so you’ve gotta weight it out.
Oh god, here comes another male model….
by supermarioelia on May 27, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta realize I go to school in Dayton and I am now back in Northern Ohio for the first time in 4 years…it’s more or less a forgot how bad he sucked at his job….
by Tribe_Hippie on May 27, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
If that facial hair had the tools that Juan Uribe did, and it put it all together? Mercy. Watch out.
by afh4 on May 27, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Me being a newb here….what’s the deal with Hawk Harrelson?
by Tribe_Hippie on May 27, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
White Sox announcer, lots of people here live in Chicago or used to. He’s beyond bad. Atrocious. Incredibly atrocious. He’s got a think southern accent and says the same things over and over and over (You can put it on the booooooooard…. YES! or Hang whiff ‘em, or 1-0 Tribe, Good Guys comin’ to bat.) He was a terrible baseball player, too, yet brags about his career a lot. Has a creepy man crush on Yastremski. Was traded to the INdians from the Red Sox and once called it the worst day of his life on the air. Was such a prick while a player that he made the Indians put “Hawk” on his jersey, which is neither his real name nor his last name.
I hate him.
Il faut d'abord durer.
by CU Adam on May 27, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Google search of “hawk harrelson facial hair”
by supermarioelia on May 27, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
First 10,000 fans get a dictionary and annoying Brit to take home.
by supermarioelia on May 27, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You can bet Alfonseca’s thumb, I don’t think he’ll mind.
by supermarioelia on May 27, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
NO WAY, look away for a couple of seconds…......
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on May 27, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply actions
......maybe Wedge is smarter than he looks?
by Tribe_Hippie on May 27, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
He looked pretty smart a couple years back with that Dale Earnhardt replica mustache on his lip
by Tribe_Hippie on May 27, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I was noticeably silent for a few minutes there.
by supermarioelia on May 27, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
It had really nice eyes and a cool personality.
by afh4 on May 27, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Frank “Don’t Trade Me, Assholes” Gutierrez
by fleerdon on May 27, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Do the Sox have the opposite facial hair rule of the Yankees?
by Tribe_Hippie on May 27, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
How are the Indians gonna lose this one, let’s see how creative Wedge can be in concocting a loss here
No….just a pessimistic Cleveland fan, I don’t really believe we won until I see it on Sportscenter the next day
by Tribe_Hippie on May 27, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
You’d be surprised the quality tail new teeth can get you.
by supermarioelia on May 27, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
as far as guys w/ sub-.125 avg’s are concerned
by DontCallMeJoey on May 27, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I just got home and turned the game on. I spent the last ten minutes trying to catch up here, but other than the Gutz home run I didn’t pick up much. I’m like the Hawk Harrelson of getting to game threads on time.
Steel Nick
I’m not trying to be a jackass here - really - but does anybody think, watching Andy play, that Casey’s arm has looked a little weak by comparison?
by fleerdon on May 27, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions
Let’s got the opposite way and say that Andy has a plus arm. I thought Casey had a hose when he played right field, right?
I did too. I’m asking if anybody else thinks they saw some decline there.
by fleerdon on May 27, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, but marte looks more laid back when he throws, so it confuses wedge. casey makes sure he grunts loud enough that wedge can hear it in the dugout and know how hard he is trying.
Blake walks around the clubhouse with a cowboy hat saying, “There’s a snake in ma boots!” and Wedge just loves that.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on May 27, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Actually yes….but I’ve just never seen someone wear a shin guard that high, made me giggle
by Tribe_Hippie on May 27, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
How jealous are you of Phillies fans? They score a cool 35 runs their last two games and have 4 in the first inning tonight.
Jeeeeeez!!
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
Phillies fans are getting really interactive with the team.
Is it still literal correction night?
Steel Nick
Bleh.
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 27, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Mario, do you pronounce your name the normal way or like Mare-io? I have this debate with some of my east coast friends that insist it’s pronounced Mare-io
I could never believe a pro athlete and I had such similar names.
by supermarioelia on May 27, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I go Mare-io. I’m always tempted to start telling girls my name is Marr-e-o, since it does sound better, but it’s tough to change at this point. I’m too used to it.
by supermarioelia on May 27, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
After asking about Hawk Harrelson earlier I did some research and found this little dandy of a website
he’s literally one of the worst Americans alive right now who is not directly responsible for the death of another person (that we know of)
by DontCallMeJoey on May 27, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Haley Joel Osment really hit the skids as a teen.
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Have to wake up bats!
by vbc3 on May 27, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
“And a happy 85th to June Thompson from Parma Heights….June just got a new pair of dentures…and boy does she bite down hard now.”
by supermarioelia on May 27, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
hegan’s description was a little hazy…bobbled grounder, but still turned?
by DontCallMeJoey on May 27, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
He was thinking about Manning’s blabbering from the previous atbat.
by supermarioelia on May 27, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
If Bill Veeck were still alive and Victor were 36, he would take the team to Alaska and try to get Victor to outrun a glacier on pay per view TV.
Free Andy Marte!
by woodsmeister on May 27, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hawk just claimed that if you even failed a pitch off low and away against old time pitchers, they would’ve knocked you down.
What
The
F.
Haha that’ll teach me to listen to Underwood.
I never knew you could get a fistula between calluses. This guy has the worst hands ever.
by supermarioelia on May 27, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope you got a fistula between your study partner’s calluses in clinic
by gte619n on May 27, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is the most disgusting and pleasurable rec I’ve ever awarded.
by supermarioelia on May 27, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
That might be the problem. Too soft. I’d suggest the alou route. He’s probably on orders to do nothing but pee on his hands for a solid two weeks.
¡Free Chan Perry!
by TheVanillaGorilla on May 27, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
The Ozunas are playing well tonight. I like our chances.
Also! As refreshing as Francisco has been the last couple weeks, I hope no one forgets that Choo Choo Gootz is the better of the two. Oddly enough Hammy and the rest of the broadcasters are confusing the two on a regular basis—that Frank Francisco character has thrown them through a loop, I guess.
Wasn’t Manning pronouncing Gutierrez properly at some point? What happened with that?
by supermarioelia on May 27, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Ron Santo might be close. The two should be put into a steel cage and forced to fight to the death.
Il faut d'abord durer.
I definitely agree, but Santo has absolutely no clue what is going on either. They’re easily the worst two announcers in the game. It’s bizarre that Santo is so popular and Hawk so reviled.
Il faut d'abord durer.
I think you’re not appreciating the purpose of Ronnie in the booth. I personally think Pat Hughes is a great play-by-play, but the reason everyone loves Santo is that he is the embodiment (is that a word?) of Cubs love. He LIVES for the Cubs. And Cubs fans love him for that. Ronnie’s raw emotion more than makes up for his lack of “color skills”.
Hawk has none of that. For what it’s worth, I’d rather have a Tribe legend who just loved the Tribe than necessarily Hegan (who I think does a fine job).
I’m with you, and I know that that’s what he is. And I do think Hawk realizes it, too, and tries to be that to some extent, which is bizarre since he never played fro the White Sox. But as a non-Cubs fan, who worked at Wrigley for parts of five seasons and listened to a LOT of Cubs’ radio, Santo is brutal to listen to. Absolutely brutal.
Il faut d'abord durer.
Eh – different strokes I guess. I really enjoy the Hughes – Santo team. I listen to them a ton in school and since (10+ years) and wouldn’t change it.
But I despise all Sox announcers, Hawk being Public Enemy #1.
Me, too. Plus Santos is funny when the game isn’t close and he starts talking about other stuff: ice cream, parking lots. And Santos will acknowledge a good play by an opposing team. He also made a great call on a Brant Brown drop of a routine fly ball in 1998 that seemed to ruin the Cubs’ postseason chances: it was, as I recall just Ron saying: “Oh, no! Oh, no!” You had no idea what had happened.
Ahhh yes – I was at that game in ol’ county Stadium in Milwaukee. I was in the bleachers and it was a routine fly ball to the track. The ball dropped down in front of us, with the fence obscuring the ball. My friends and I, who were actually missing our first day of class at Northwestern to go to the game, started cheering.
Then the rest of the Milwaukee crowd started cheering, as Geoff Jenkins rounded the bases and the bases, which had been full, were now empty. Almost got into a fight after the game with some rowdy Brewers fans.
As a side note – I also may be the only person in the world who was at that Brewers-Cubs game (a day game on a Wednesday) AND at the Grady Sizemore game in 2005 in Kansas City, when he dropped the ball in the sun. Kind of a weird coincidence. Throw in that I was about 500 yards from Wrigley for the Steve Bartman game, and you might say that I’m bad luck. Oh well.
The point of all this is that Santo is good people.
Wow, that’s pretty good. You should stay away from Prog Field, though.
Did you think Grady’s drop ruined everything? I thought the end came the inning before, when we couldn’t get the runs across.
I have some positive moments from the Jake – was lucky enough to see Fausto dominate the Yankees in the “midge” game last year, and in the ‘95 I was at the Tony Pena extra innings homer game against Boston.
I think they definitely had a chance to get a lead in the ninth. Our ‘pen was good enough that year with a dominant Howry to think that we could outlast them, but it would have been ideal to push the go-ahead run in the ninth, as you’re saying. That sun was pretty nasty and someone on the Royals had dropped a ball earlier in the game. The real kicker was losing to Seth McClung later in the week – ripped our hearts out.
This is strangely making me want to listen to him.
by supermarioelia on May 27, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Indians offense priorities for this next half inning:
1. More Runs
2. More Hits
3. More Walks
(note: 2 and 3 are interchangeable)
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Have to wake up bats!
Has anyone read Rob Neyer’s Big Book of Baseball Legends?
I’m reading it right now, and it’s a fine book, but the first thing I did was skip to the chapter where he takes Hawk Harrelson’s autobiography and proves a good portion of it completely false. It’s fantastic. Really adds another layer of absurdity to listening to Hawk talk about the past.
Never knew that Hawk even had an autobiography, let alone that it was false. Was he out and out lying or was it more innocent?
Il faut d'abord durer.
It’s mostly Hawk saying stuff like “I really keyed the pennant run for the Red Sox! I had 17 RBI in 21 games, and every single one was a game-winner! In one game against the Orioles I had a homer, double, triple and 7 RBI!”
And then Neyer’s like “Uh, no.”
You forced me to skip ahead to that section… Thank you for that. To quote from that section…
The final score was 10-2, and the Red Sox would have won with Woody Harrelson in right field that evening.
by Fundamentals on May 27, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m actually reading it while listening to the game and checking the site. Its been a GREAT read so far.
by Fundamentals on May 27, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Gutz rocks tonight, but I’m wondering if his haircut is straight out of 1986. Ang, want to address that? Bad hair?
Andy yeah
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on May 27, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions
I really thought this place was going to explode in a billion posts about Marte’s first homerun.
Il faut d'abord durer.
After that atbat, it’s only a matter of time now…he’s gonna go all Ben Francisco on us.
by supermarioelia on May 27, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Manning and Underwood actually had some sympathy for Marte before that hit.
“He’s essentially like a starting pitcher, he sees action once ever 5 or 6 days.”
“Let’s hope he gets a couple of hits for his sake … Just sneaks a few in.”
Steel Nick
The ball definitely jumps off Andy’s bat. As Jay has said, it’s hard to get into a groove when you play less than Luis Medina. But give him time, and those rockets fall in.
LISTEN UP WEDGE YOU BITCH
I’ve decided I’m going to buy an Andy Marte shirt. I only own one other Indians shirt, a Fausto one, and he went on a mad tear last year when I bought it.
Steel Nick
that’s as bad as me saying “no indians tonight”
then caving slightly listening to it in the background while playing madden
then continuing to listen after
then saying maybe i’ll go read LGT just not post anything
then having to when marte gets an XBH
Give Marte a Chance. FIRE SHELTON. Find Wedge a Hot Seat.
I think J-Mike (bottom left) wins, followed by Jhonny (top row, 3rd from left). Laffey’s (bottom row, 2nd from left) will move into 2nd I think once Aaron starts making more money and taking her to tropical destinations…just a little pasty for my liking right now.
by supermarioelia on May 27, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently you are a fashion designer, possibly a closeted fashion designer. I find your beauty standards to be mundane and media-driven. And anyway, when are you going to figure it out: It is not the least bit cool to sit around in mixed company critiquing women and their physical appearance. It’s actually rude. Do you even know any women? Have you been on a date?
This goes back to Chuck’s Rule: Don’t say things here you wouldn’t say to someone’s face in a bar. I’m trying to imagine us sitting around that bar — all of us — passing around this picture, talking about who’s hotter. You wouldn’t, and if you would, then you’re a dolt.
by Jay on May 28, 2008 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not entirely sure why you waited until this morning to post this, a whole 12 hours later. If you were working on the phrasing of your lashing, well then well played.
If eight Cleveland Indians wives/girlfriends/fiances walked into a bar and none of the people I was with made a single comment about J-Mike’s wife….well then I guess I’m a dolt. If what you’re getting at is that I wouldn’t say anything to her, and that she could possibly read this…well then I guess you have point. Maybe. But Jay, I’m a 23-year old university student…you expect far too much of me. Talk to me in 20 years and I may be changing my answer to top-left.
by supermarioelia on May 28, 2008 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
But yes, I apologize to all of the ladies and gents who were offended by my comments.
by supermarioelia on May 28, 2008 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
As far as I know, there are no Indians wives/girlfriends/fiances in this bar with us, and if they were, then either they wouldn’t be hanging out with us, or you wouldn’t be ranking their hotness right to their face.
I waited because I wasn’t sure I wanted to say anything. I eventually did, because three months of my being more subtle about this has apparently not sunk in, and yet I really think this is basic common sense and common courtesy, and again, this should be obvious to any man who has ever socialized with any woman in any context.
(This is long and possibly too political for the site, and all my own opinion, but offered for discussion.)
I’m just going to jump in here a second and explain why conversations like the one that was starting about that picture can go horribly awry, at least for certain people (by which I mean, uh, myself and some other ladies I know). The issue isn’t saying “Lady X is attractive” because, uh, sometimes a lady is attractive, and believe me, I get that. And I really don’t have a complaint about people commenting on that within reason. For me the issue comes with the ranking or the implication of who isn’t attractive. These things always come down to certain commenters picking apart a perfectly decent looking woman, breaking her down into her component parts, and her legs aren’t thin enough or her eyes are funny looking or oh no, she could stand to lose a few pounds. And obviously you’re not going to be attracted to everyone, but…
I don’t know, maybe guys don’t feel this way as much as girls do, or maybe they do and I’ve just missed it, but there is this pressure that it is always a competition. (And a competition that you are always losing. You never win the pretty game.) It’s not like, culturally, women are told they can overcome these things by having a lot of money, or being personally successful, or being funny. Pretty much the only commodity is Being Prettiest (which we never will be). And this just re-enforces that. I don’t know that you realize how uncomfortable it is to be on an unrelated site, and all of a sudden people are talking about how a person who, if you saw her on the street, would definitely be considered at least kind of attractive, is totally not doable because she has a bit of a tummy or whatever. Like people are just trying to find fault to find fault.
That’s the conversation that makes me uncomfortable. This didn’t go near it, but as soon as you line ladies up and discuss which one you think is hottest, it has a tendency to start heading that way. And it’s a conversation I expect in certain fora, but on sites that aren’t, for example, fashion sites or, I don’t know, the Maxim website, you’re going to get people who didn’t expect it, and it’s going to put them off the forum. There are website I don’t go too because I’m too sensitive about this stuff and because it’s always present.Let me re-iterate: I didn’t personally have a problem with your comments, but I understand why Jay nipped it in the bud.
Hard truth: Your eyes lie.
by AngG on May 28, 2008 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
finesse, crafty lefties will do that to yah
by Tribe_Hippie on May 27, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Andy Marte checking the dugout to make sure no one is screwing with his dominos.
by supermarioelia on May 27, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Pablo Ozuna is a career .377 hitter against the Indians (26-for-69).
He bats in every spot in our order and still manages to beat us.
by Chemo on May 27, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I don’t plan on litigation, but that was pretty dumb. We live and die by time machines man, you don’t mess around with flux capacitors. You just don’t.
by supermarioelia on May 27, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Much like Edgar Renteria does to Tribe fans
by Tribe_Hippie on May 27, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
See Hippie boy? Now THIS is a time machine.
by supermarioelia on May 27, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
We’re not all watching the same broadcast, so when someone posts something like “Grand Salami….tribe down 6-5,” it makes everything think that it actually happened.
Isn’t STO the only station to broadcast it?
by Tribe_Hippie on May 27, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
WGN, Gameday Audio, MLB.tv (the biggest cocktease in the broadcasting universe) plus all the DirectTV feeds.
STO, the Chicago feed, MLB.tv, MLB Extra Innings, XM Satellite Radio. There are people here listening/watching to most all of those. Actually, on this board, I’d say that the majority aren’t watching STO.
by Fundamentals on May 27, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I really want to quote Stephen Lynch’s She Gotta Smile right now, but I’ll resist.
by Fundamentals on May 27, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s been pulling clumps of it out lately to come up with new excuses for Andy Marte as to why he’s not playing.
Free Andy Marte!
by woodsmeister on May 27, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
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