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Soloff said, "Travis is obviously not ready to play right now and we're hoping the DL stint will help him." Soloff said Hafner made the trip with the Indians to see how he responded to the cortisone shot.

"He didn't quite feel like himself," said Soloff. "We feel like the additional time on the DL will help strengthen the shoulder."

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Odds that Choo sees more time than Marte this week?

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on May 30, 2008 6:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

About the same as me downloading and playing Chronotrigger over the same period.

by bewwolv on May 30, 2008 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is a bear Catholic?

Hard truth: Your eyes lie.

by AngG on May 30, 2008 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the woods?

by bewwolv on May 30, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m quite happy that Pronk is going on the DL.

by jdwitmer on May 30, 2008 6:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good.

Hard truth: Your eyes lie.

by AngG on May 30, 2008 7:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Franklin, Ben and Looch’d better start playing like there’s no tomorrow.

by jhon on May 30, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’d say it’s Choo that has the onus to prove his worth whatever opportunity he gets.

by supermarioelia on May 30, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don’t forget Garko. One of those outfield guys can DH with Hafner out, and Garko has not exactly been hitting like a power-hitting first baseman – .641 OPS in last 28 days. 0 for 4 again last night).

by peter m on May 31, 2008 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Championship!

by NickFantana on May 30, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is good news. If Hafner’s srruggles are injury related and not decline related, then we may get some of the old Pronk back.

by Cols714 on May 30, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pretty much running out of contingencies, so yeah. About time.

by maledicta on May 30, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s kind of depressing that my first thought was that this is good news. Come back old Pronk!

by RachelAnn on May 30, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hurrah. They need to hook Pronk up to Masa’s suction cups.

by ken from alexandria on May 30, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s so obviously a bogus use of the DL to “option” out an unoptionable, underperformer (see Borowski, Joe). Not that I have any objection to it. But we all knew Coo was due back around now and that would have a ripple effect. Now Choo can be auditioned or showcased, Hafner can get 20 days to retool in AAA, and then decisions can be made. Fine.

My question is: What kinds of regulations are in effect regarding these things? Presumably, Hafner could challenge it through the Players’ Union. Can other teams challenge? Is there an office in MLB that passes judgement on these kinds of cases? Did the Indians have to submit a medical report? Or do you just have to be able to announce it with a straight face?

Just wondering how easy or hard this is to pull off.

by SuddenSam on May 30, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think it’s highly unlikely that they’d have done it without Hafner’s agreement. It’s not like he’s losing money or service time here. Nobody’s ever going to pay him a dime beyond what he’s already guaranteed, in all likelihood.

by Jay on May 30, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right, I assumed he could challenge and didn’t. Is that all? If the player goes for it, you can do it? Is that the only check?

by SuddenSam on May 30, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, the team doctor has to be willing to sign off on it, of course, and the MLB has medical officials that have to decide it’s not worth challenging. The fact they kept him out of the last few games, even in a lefty pinch-hitting situation, makes it more credible.

by Jay on May 30, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think other teams could probably raise a stink, but what goes around might come around.

by fleerdon on May 30, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A team that would complain would have to be ready to claim Travis and take on his contract. Hopefully this is truly a shoulder injury and that the time off and a minor league rehab stint gets him back

by Roger Dorn on May 31, 2008 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

buster olney has some interesting splits of pre- and post-HBP Pronk from an HBP on 4/25/07 thrown by Ron Mahay. it’s insider so i can’t paste, but:

180 games since that HBP:
BA: .243
HR: 23
RBI: 107
K: 145

147 games pre-HBP:
BA: .317
HR: 47
RBI: 132
K: 125

Could be totally spurious, but Olney’s generally pretty good in my opnion. Anybody remember what that HBP was? I can’t get my brain to work…

by DontCallMeJoey on May 30, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The HBP that stands out in my mind is the Buehrle HPB back in 2005. Based on how the Indians’ batters are often target practice for pitchers, I can understand that Hafner might be dealing with some fear of the HBP.

Yankees and Red Sox - MLB's Axis of Evil
(And ESPN is right in the middle)

by Spidey on May 30, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it fair to expect CC to get some DH at bats?

LeCavs!
If you were good enough, maybe we'd name it after you.

by Matt in LA on May 31, 2008 1:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If we’re not signing CC, we should drive him like a rented mule. Throw 260 innings and pinch hit him, as well as 150 ABs as a DH.

by odradek on May 31, 2008 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let me put it another way. C.C. is unlikely to be any better of a pinch-hitter than a pinch-runner.

by Jay on May 31, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we need someone to throw a rolling block at 2nd, he might be our guy!

by peter m on May 31, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You may have a point there. For that matter, it would be kind of fun to see him charge the mound after a brush-back.

by Jay on May 31, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

...finally, someone listening to my advice…

Now I just hope he destroys all the Eastern Leaguge/International League bathrooms he comes across

by APV on May 31, 2008 1:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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