A Trip to The House That Ruth Built
Well I finally made it to Yankee Stadium last night. Took New Jersey Transit up from Princeton Junction to Penn Station and then the "D" Train to Fordham Rd., got off at 181st St. and walked about 10 blocks to Mario’s on Arthur Ave. Met up with Gradysmanlady and a couple of his buddies – ate a little pasta and drank a little vino. All a perfect prelude to a perfect night. GML's a pretty good dude, and for some unknown reason the baseball god’s elected to put us right behind one another waaaaay up in the upper deck. Unfortunately my buddy from Philly was having a hard time – cuz of his knees – making it all the way up to the Himalayan reaches of the stadium so we caged a coupla seats near some NYC secretarial types and their Manhattan real estate agent goomba – he spent most of the game trying to impress the young things with how much he knew about Manhattan real estate – whatta maroon. Later JulioBernarzard showed up after the sixth and we watched most of the remainder of the game together.
Anyway suffice it to say that watching Delucci hit that three run pinch- hit shot offa Chamberlain in the eighth was awful sweet. You could feel the air go outta the stadium as it cleared the fences. We were sitting with about half a dozen or so other Tribe fans from Connecticut. We were all screaming and yelling and high-fiving one another amidst a throng of Yankee partisans – all of which gave us their best version of the ol’ stink-eye. But so what? The Tribe had just taken the lead over the vaunted Yankees offa the unhittable Mr. Chamberlain. What could possibly be better – other than listening to about 2 or 300 other Tribe fans screaming their joy at the Yankee’s misfortune? Like the noted fourteenth century B.C. philosopher Conan the Barbarian usta say, "Good is crushing your enemies, seeing them driven before you and listening to the lamentations of their women". Truer words were never spoken.
Some observations:
- Fausto is having trouble locating the plate – duh. And it’s not just that batters are laying off the low stuff. He has stretches were he can’t locate the plate side-to-side or up and down. But then he throws that heater up there at 96 and all seems right. I think he just needs a little work on the side with the pitching coach.
- Marte’s a player. There I said it. His defense is excellent. That tag he made in the bottom of the fifth – on Abreu, I think – was an old school veteran play. He stood stone still acting like nothing was happening until, at the last instant he caught the ball and tagged out the runner. Very impressive. He also looked like he had an idea at the plate. The boy at least looks like a hitter, which is more than I can say for most of the line-up.
- Hafner looks ab – so – lute – lee lost at the plate. It looks like he’s guessing on every pitch. I don’t know if his stance is too wide, or if he’s over-striding or what, but until he starts to recognize pitches he’s gonna struggle.
- Jamie Carroll on the other hand looks like he knows what he's doing with a bat. He takes good swings at good pitches and plays a pretty decent second base – not a good as Asdrubal – but pretty decent. Which is why I think that Cabrera is gonna end up in Buffalo soon. There’s no need to keep him up in the majors and having him struggle when there’s a good replacement available.
- Garko, Peralta and Shoppach all look a little confused at the plate. And yes I know Peralta hit that homer. But still they look tentative. These guys will come around but it’s gonna take some work.
- Gotta love Raffie L – wicked delivery makes his stuff look harder than it is. Same with Jensen Lewis – if he had a more conventional delivery he’d be getting killed. As it is the hitters are having a tough time finding his stuff.
- Alert the media! Yankee fans are a bunch of douche nozzles. I must admit we were treated politely by almost all of the NY fans but in the end their baseball knowledge, for the most part is limited to, "well we’ve won 26 WS, so this year’s team is gonna be great too". I had one older fan tell me that the Tribe hasn’t had a good pitcher since Sam McDowell. Evidently last year’s Cy Young results haven’t been announced yet in Gotham.
I always have big fun at the ballpark – always. But last night was special. Got to meet some of my LGT colleagues, watch the current Yankee HoF designate blow-up and listen to Yankee fans kvetch and flop around – perfect. And, oh yeah, LeStunod choked big time with the game on the line. Two for eighteen indeed!
Well, that might be my last visit to old Yankee Stadium – unless of course those dipwads some how buy a seat at this year’s play-offs. In which case I’ll be back to watch the Tribe pound them into sawdust and break a few balls.
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Awesome, Chuck . Wish I coulda been there. And I have to say, although I disagree with you, I love the nickname “LeStunod.”
Burn on, big river, burn on...
by Turkmenbashi on
May 7, 2008 9:43 AM EDT
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I hate Yankee fans, but I will give them credit for really trying to cheer their team on, even when they get behind.
I agree with virtually everything you said about the game—I also love Perez. Some of those breaking pitches he throws make me think of Assenmacher striking out Griffey in 1995 (I think that’s right?). Wonderful.
I thought Peralta was better than the others—he worked a huge walk before Dellucci’s home run. Here’s hoping he keeps hitting balls to right center!
by peter m on
May 7, 2008 10:05 AM EDT
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Yeah, what a game. I don’t know how it worked out, but there was a solid pocket of Indians fans in our area and a moat of empty seats around that. I always hated baseball fans that were loud and motivated cheering at my stadium; we were those guys last night. A couple of our observations from the game (pictures will follow in a separate thread)
- There were a surprising amount of Tribe fans all over the park. Many high-fives and cheers were handed out….you wouldn’t think that too many midwesterners would be willing to make the trip to the Heart of Darkness.
- A picture will come of the staaaaaaaaaaank eye you get at Yankee stadium from the Derek Jeter groupies when you cheer a brush back fastball.
- Getting into Yankee stadium if a !@$%ing nightmare. If you have gate four or six entry tickets, you have to do a lap around the stadium to get to the gate. It was the first “First Pitch” i’ve ever missed, and we were there in plenty of team.
- It’s shocking how Yankee stadium is right smack-dab in the middle of the bronx. Picture the view: convenience store, run down building, bus stop, convienence store, salon, GIGANTIC LOOMING STADIUM.
- New Yankee Stadium looks phenomenal. It looks a bit like the Coliseum; lots of stone and pillars.
- I was completely dissapointed in the spirit of the fans; the stadium completely emptied in the top of the 8th with two innings of ball left. It really wasn’t that full to begin with; I think the attendance figure was 44,000-ish
- Mario’s in the bronx is as good as advertised. The pasta was delicious, and it had a very authentic old school Italian feel. Watching Chuck barter with the waiter was absolutely hysterical….”I would like some risotto…..how about this instead…..let me get some clams in that instead…..well, how about we put this in for this…..” It was like you were at your folks house and they were cooking stuff and taking inputs.
- Chuck is good people; hope a few more LGT’ers make it out to Boston for Cleveland in September.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on
May 7, 2008 10:13 AM EDT
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...you wouldn’t think that too many midwesterners would be willing to make the trip to the Heart of Darkness.
Why?.... Bucause the subway is scarry? Yankees Stadium Mistique is too intimidating? We don’t stand a chance against them – they have 26 world championships so why even bother…?
by Brick. on
May 7, 2008 11:05 AM EDT
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No, cuz it’s a pain in the ass. It took almost an hour just to get from the stadium to Penn Station. As to the bars, there’s plenty of joints right above the D Train entrance. It takes a real investment in time to go to the game. But I’ll tell you what, some of my suburban friends might be a little intimidated by the neighborhood – kinda like the old Cleveland Arena, or reaching waaaay back old League Park, not that it’s the same. But the Yankee Stadium neighborhood has some of the same vibe as 66th and Superior.
"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay
by mauichuck on
May 7, 2008 11:19 AM EDT
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Almost an hour? Yuck. I think we have an Amtrak train back to Philly scheduled at 11:30 or so tonight, but I’d hate to have to split in the ninth or something to make it back. Hopefully Lee will shut them down & it’ll be a quick game.
Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.
by zempf on
May 7, 2008 11:37 AM EDT
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Got back to Princeton at 2:30 AM. The train to Trenton leaves at 11:40 – missed that one and the next was at 12:47. They were working on the tracks so we didn’t get to Princeton Junction until 2:00 AM – didn’t hit the hay until 2:30. My advice: catch that 11:40 which means ya gotta be on the D Train by 10:30 – 10:45. Good luck!
"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay
by mauichuck on
May 7, 2008 11:45 AM EDT
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Boo. Checking again, our train leaves Penn Station at 11:20, which stinks. And there’s not another Amtrak train until 3 or so, which is no good (and the NJTransit -> SEPTA thing doesn’t work overnight, because SEPTA doesn’t run that late). Oh well, we’ll see how it works out.
Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.
by zempf on
May 7, 2008 11:52 AM EDT
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the schlep home is definitely one of the problems with the stadium. i got on the train around 11:45 last night (had a few post-game beers) and didn’t make it back to brooklyn til close to 1.
yankee fans are seemingly devoid of any sense of irony or understanding of sarcasm.
also, the beer cut-off after the 7th really makes me appreciate the fact that it flows for the entire game at the jake that much more. those last few innings can be rough….
by dwight on
May 7, 2008 12:31 PM EDT
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it flows for the entire game at the jake
really? it does? so i’ve been rushing to get a last couple stockpiled in the 7th all these years for nothing?
by Brick. on
May 7, 2008 12:57 PM EDT
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at least it used to. i havent been to a game in a year or two, but i recall drinking into extra innings a few times during the lean rebuilding years of ricky gutierrez. some stands close so you have might have to search a bit, but they certainly didn’t cut you off.
by dwight on
May 7, 2008 2:30 PM EDT
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Well of course they don’t cut off the beer during a rebuilding phase. That would just be mean.
by Jay on
May 7, 2008 2:36 PM EDT
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Nah. Last call is middle/bottom of the 7th.
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by vbc3 on
May 7, 2008 3:04 PM EDT
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it always was for the vendors wandering the aisles, but you could definitely still get beer from a stand if you could find one open
by dwight on
May 7, 2008 3:43 PM EDT
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All sales of alcohol end at the end of the 7th inning during ballgames at Progressive Field.
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apparently the policy changed to conform with every other ballpark i’ve ever been in. ah well, was good while it lasted….
by dwight on
May 7, 2008 3:53 PM EDT
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Just be happy you have the vendors walking the aisles. That doesn’t happen in Cali. You physically have to get up and get in line to purchase all your alcohol, two drink limit per visit too. Am curious to see how they do it in SafeCo. I’ll hopefully find out in July.
by talonk on
May 7, 2008 5:34 PM EDT
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there are beer vendors in safeco, but they’re few and far between in the upper decks . . . and don’t forget about dixie’s bbq, unless you’d rater have an Ichi-Roll or somethng.
by macasson on
May 7, 2008 5:50 PM EDT
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and they have good beer at safeco too…if you’re into that sort of thing.
by dwight on
May 7, 2008 5:54 PM EDT
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I’ll be at one of those Cleveland-Boston games at Fenway in September. Don’t remember which one off-hand, but I’ll be there…
by APV on
May 7, 2008 11:06 AM EDT
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Don’t forget your matches.
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by vbc3 on
May 7, 2008 3:04 PM EDT
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see if you can bring a Vic jersey with you and stick it between some cement. Then we can all sell it and split the profits.
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by westbrook on
May 7, 2008 3:16 PM EDT
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If you really wanted to curse a baseball stadium, wouldn’t you bury a Cubs jersey?
Free Andy Marte!
by woodsmeister on
May 7, 2008 4:25 PM EDT
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Better yet, bury a Cub.
"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay
by mauichuck on
May 7, 2008 4:28 PM EDT
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dead on about getting to and into the stadium. my least favorite thing was always after the game, getting back into manhattan to a bar – took forever, major buzzkill
by Brick. on
May 7, 2008 11:08 AM EDT
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I was completely dissapointed in the spirit of the fans; the stadium completely emptied in the top of the 8th with two innings of ball left.
“Aight, let’s go. Dis game is ovuh!”
These were the exact sentiments of the Yankees fans who sat next to us at the C.C./Wang game a couple of Sundays back at the top of the 8th. Of course, at that time, their pitching Trinity was still unsullied. Heh heh.
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by vbc3 on
May 7, 2008 3:02 PM EDT
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My level of jealousy at not being able to participate in this outing borders on the insane.
by NickFantana on
May 7, 2008 10:17 AM EDT
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Chuck, Grady’s Man Lady, Julio,
Sounds like a great time, unfortunate that I couldn’t get out of work last night in time I will be there tonight though cheering Marte, Cy and the rest of the boys on
by Roger Dorn on
May 7, 2008 10:17 AM EDT
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I wonder if you guys were on TV. After the Dellucci HR they showed two different “pockets” of Indians fans cheering.
Great recap and what a great game for you guys to witness.
by Toxicadam on
May 7, 2008 10:31 AM EDT
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If the fans appeared halfway drunk and completely hoarse, it may have been us.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on
May 7, 2008 3:52 PM EDT
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Thanks, guys, for sharing your experience in such colorful detail. I feel like I was there with you. Insofar as why Tribe fans were seated together, maybe ticket sellers are instructed, if they see visiting team garb, to sell seats in a certain section and to avoid selling seats around that area (for the sake of keeping the peace). Re the stinkeye: I wouldnt respect a fan if they didn’t react like that in their house.
by elsandito on
May 7, 2008 11:20 AM EDT
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I noticed ushers at Progressive Field moving fans from opposing teams so they would be seated together with other supporters of their team. It seemed like they were partly being “nice,” partly trying to keep them being isolated in a sea of hostile Indians fans (it didn’t work, by the way—several people got tossed out on the night I’m thinking of). Maybe something like that happens in Yankee Stadium too, although you need to have empty seats to make it work.
by peter m on
May 7, 2008 11:24 AM EDT
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Sounds like a doozy of a night. Any chance of a June LGT outing in Detroit? Or August outing north of the border?
by supermarioelia on
May 7, 2008 11:36 AM EDT
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I’m in for a June outing in Detroit. I don’t move out to Boston till August.
by APV on
May 7, 2008 11:54 AM EDT
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We have a group of 10 guys going up to Detroit for the Saturday 6/7 game. Count me in.
by millionairesrow on
May 7, 2008 1:17 PM EDT
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I’m just back in the country then…but provisionally count me in (perhaps with a guest). If you have any details (like seating sections or pre/post game plans) send me an e-mail at avanarsd (at) umich (dot) edu (Yes – I teach at Michigan).
by APV on
May 7, 2008 2:01 PM EDT
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Let me know if you’re interested in the sunday 6/8 game. There appears to be recently released seats available…it was sold out as of a few days ago. Section 328 Row 12.
by supermarioelia on
May 7, 2008 5:13 PM EDT
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APV…I didn’t know you were moving out here. Which university will you be working at?
by Nat on
May 7, 2008 5:24 PM EDT
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Awesome game! Always a fan of the other team that plays the Yanks. I was suprised about the lack of team spirit that the fans showed. As soon as Joba gave up the home run that place emptied out! Also as if the Yanks don’t have enough gay jokes to hear about (i.e. Jeter and Arod drinking wine coolers), they play “YMCA” in the 7th inning.
Note: Chanting “Bengie is Better” when Jose Molina comes up to bat is not well received in Yankee Stadium…but funny nonetheless.
by undertow54 on
May 7, 2008 11:54 AM EDT
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Having been to lots of NYC sporting events, fans leaving prior to the end of the game is not something limited to Yankee fans. As has been mentioned many times, getting around the city on the subway, especially from Yankee Stadium, is a pain. Fans want to get out of there and on their way ASAP. If Joba gives up a bomb in the 8th and the team might lose, everyone’s on the way out. Plus, the NY fans are ridiculously fickle, and will immediately take off if things aren’t going their way.
by mbva on
May 7, 2008 1:24 PM EDT
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How can a man with such a charming mustache be so aggressive?
by afh4 on
May 7, 2008 12:37 PM EDT
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that’s … chuck …
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by Gradyforpresident on
May 7, 2008 12:46 PM EDT
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He looks so much taller on the internet.
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by vbc3 on
May 7, 2008 3:07 PM EDT
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“looks like a grandpa”
my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.
by joeee on
May 7, 2008 5:05 PM EDT
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this is sort of like bentham’s panopticon – i feel like chuck lost some firepower now that everyone knows that he is human and not just an ethereal cloud of wrath.
my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.
by joeee on
May 7, 2008 5:06 PM EDT
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Or at the very least a figment of Norman Mailer’s imagination.
by fleerdon on
May 7, 2008 5:23 PM EDT
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Post of the Week—if we’re still doing that.
by ken from alexandria on
May 7, 2008 5:38 PM EDT
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Seconded. Ethereal cloud of wrath. What a phrase.
by oxforddave on
May 7, 2008 6:14 PM EDT
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Better that than your bathroom.
Free Andy Marte!
by woodsmeister on
May 8, 2008 10:52 AM EDT
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so, i didn’t think it was possible, but the man looks exactly the way i pictured. i just assumed mustache.
but dude, picture makes you look like a yankees fan. hope that’s a tribe hat.
by Brick. on
May 7, 2008 12:55 PM EDT
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See I thought the picture was sorta Teddy Roosevelt-ish – you know standing over a freshly killed wildebeest. And of course it’s an Indians hat – but without the Chief Wahoo thingy. What ya think I’m insensitive?
"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay
by mauichuck on
May 7, 2008 1:08 PM EDT
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hope that’s a tribe hat.
Yup, it is. Been wearing the exact same Tribe cap all week.
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by vbc3 on
May 7, 2008 3:07 PM EDT
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So you were the one guy who was there on time for the first inning.
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May 7, 2008 3:09 PM EDT
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see that’s what i thought too. picture looked like some yankee fan getting his picture taken with the field in the background there hours before the first pitch for his first game ever at “THE STADIUM”. but as chuck cleared up, that’s the smile of victory, a picture probably taken about 30 seconds after the last out was recorded by betancourt after the game was over.
by Brick. on
May 7, 2008 4:11 PM EDT
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Exactly!
"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay
by mauichuck on
May 7, 2008 4:29 PM EDT
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ahhhh i see. i assumed it was the on-time thing because the empty seats behind him look identical to those showed at about 7:03 on TV.
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by westbrook on
May 7, 2008 5:29 PM EDT
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There were great amounts of empty seats in that section. Imagine an empty seat moat.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on
May 8, 2008 8:40 AM EDT
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one cool thing about Fenway is that fans chant “Yankees suck!” on the way out of the park, regardless of who is playing. It’s childish yet charming.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
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