Victor/Victoria
Over at some yahoo fantasy baseball article , Brad Evans surmises that Victor Martinez has stopped swinging for the fences and has simply settled on being a singles hitter. He backs it up with some convincing evidence, and what all of us have seen with our own eyes as well. Victor's LD% is sitting at 25.3% for the season, which is roughly 5% higher than his avg. for the last three seasons, and substantially above league avg. Its nice and all that Vic has learned how to put good wood on the ball as often, as line drives result in base hits more often than any other type of batted ball, but this has come with a cost in power.

Looking at his GB/FB/LD numbers over his career, the one season that stands out is his '05 season. He was hitting GBs about as often as this year, and wasn't hitting FBs much more than this year (roughly 4% more) yet he managed to hit 20 HRs and slg .475. If Vic can turn things around and start using his power stroke of old, we could see a turnaround still, but he's going to have to do more than just starting hitting the fly balls farther...
Beyond the fact that Victor hasn't hit a single home run this season (Victor has never had a drought this long ), he's also hitting doubles at a lower rate (6.7% of his BIP compared to 7.8% of BIP in '07). So yeah, it shouldn't be to anyones surprise that his slugging percentage is over .150 points lower this year than last year, and over .100 lower than his three year avg. He hasn't slugged this poorly since his 2003 season
Why is this happening? Is this a change in hitting approach, maybe something the team or Victor alone worked on this offseason and inadvertently drained his power? Did he somehow catch whatever Hafner had and participated in spreading it all around the clubhouse as an unaware carrier, like a bad case of HPV?
I found it interesting that he's seeing slightly more pitches per plate appearance this year at 3.9 P/PA, vs. 3.8 last season and 3.7 in '06, although this is not effecting his walk rate as would be expected. Victor never really walked a ton, but his walk rate from this season was 9.6% and now is an abysmal 5.5%.
Victor is not being selective in his approach to hitting, and instead is swinging and fouling off pitches that are likely going to be balls rather than strikes more often than he has in the past three years (the '06 and '05 numbers resemble '07 pretty close, also a statement to Victor's consistency over the years). Unfortunately, the pitch f/x data for Victor isn't up yet, as I would have like to look a little closer at where he is "reaching" for pitches and what type of pitches he may be reaching for.
And all this brings me back to this fanshot , which links to this article , where Wedge is quoted in response to Peralta joking about having to start hitting all homeruns instead of linedrives as saying, "I want to see him be a more consistent hitter. I'll take a few more of those line-drive outs." Is it possible that they (batting coach, etc.) screwed with Victor's mechanics, over-emphasizing solid contact vs. free swinging? Or is it more likely just Victor being in a slump and trying to hard to hit that first HR of the season, getting himself into bad hitters counts, and settling for trying to make linedrive contact for singles?
Edit: I really didn't buy into the Wedge or hitting coaches messing with his mechanics thing that much as I noted in a comment response below, but its brought up below that Wedge has hinted at the hamstring injury as potentially being the culprit for Victor's loss of power. But what about the nosedive in walk rate? I"m thinking more and more that Victor is trying to carry the burden of turning this team's offense around maybe viewing himself as the leader of this sinking offensive ship (with Wedge running around re-arranging the chairs as Jay noted).
There is some hope here though, as I kind of alluded to above. His 2005 season also saw Victor struggle mightily through the first half with a .236/.312/.380 batting line before exploding in the second half for a .380/.449/.578 line.
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I’m not saying you’re doing this but I think the knee-jerk attempt to blame managers or coaches in cases like this are generally wrong. I seriously doubt that Wedge or anyone else attempted to re-tool Vic’s swing, especially with no coverage of it, even in a fluff piece. Victor has been one of the Indians 3 best hitters over the last 4 years and Wedge, Shelton, etc, while annoying at times, are people who’ve been around baseball a long time. They aren’t going to change Victor’s swing when it’s already one of the best in baseball. These guys are professionals, not nefarious interlopers.
Nice work overall. The arrival of all this graphing is really changing how we watch baseball. Within the next 10 years whoever owns fangraphs is going to make a whole bunch of money providing that material for tv broadcasts.
by afh4 on Jun 2, 2008 1:05 AM EDT 0 recs
Yeah I don’t particularly buy into it being a coaching thing, figured I’d throw it out there to salt Wedge’s wounds after that stupid remark in the Peralta piece. My guess is Vic is in a slump that has been amplified by the fact that he’s considered one of the leaders (if not The Leader) on this team that happens to have the worst offense in the league. My guess is that he puts alot on himself to lead this team out of it, and its just working against him.
I really wanted there to be pitch f/x data for Victor, but for whatever reason he is one of the players without enough data taken I guess.
by hans on
Jun 2, 2008 2:01 AM EDT
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Wedge thinks that the opening day hamstring injury has sapped Victor’s power.
by Jeffrey R on Jun 2, 2008 7:10 AM EDT 0 recs
That’s what a couple of the more swing analysis inclined people on here have been saying-TribeJay in particular mentioned it, I believe. Something about lunging at the ball. I don’t know enough about it to really get the terminology right.
by afh4 on
Jun 2, 2008 8:50 AM EDT
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If he was lunging at the ball then he wouldn’t be hitting line drives.
by gahnki on
Jun 2, 2008 10:05 AM EDT
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Right. He’d be hitting bloopers.
The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.
by westbrook on
Jun 2, 2008 12:31 PM EDT
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It’s not so much lunging – I thought he became a front-foot hitter in April due to the hammy. You still can hit all sorts of line drives if you keep your hands back…but it’s tougher to hit the ball out, particuarly if you’re not a guy who hits moonshots to begin with.
I think that’s part of it…but the walk thing is another part of it. Vic has generally just refused to take a walk for much of this year. My theory is that with the offense struggling, he’s trying to make something happen with his bat, so he doesn’t want to leave it to someone else to drive in the runs. Problem is, instead of taking that ball two inches off the plate, he’s swinging at them, and if puts in play, it’s not going to go over the fence.
He’s still struggling with the hammy. It’s been very obvious when he runs, even before Wedge came out and said it yesterday. How much that is impacting his power now is open to debate, but I think it clearly affected his power early.
by TribeJay on
Jun 2, 2008 5:10 PM EDT
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Several people have also pointed out that he’s a catcher and has caught a lot of games over the past few years. That takes its toll. And, he has zero protection in the line-up, so pitchers can pitch carefully to him.
by peter m on Jun 2, 2008 10:32 AM EDT 0 recs
If pitchers were handling him in a significantly different fashion, I assume we’d see him taking more walks, not fewer.
by tabler84 on
Jun 2, 2008 12:40 PM EDT
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Probably true. His strikeouts are also down, somewhat, relative to past years. To me, that sounds like he’s focused on putting the ball in play. Wedge says the hamstring hampers his swing, so maybe it’s just that he has had to change his approach and become a “contact hitter.”
by peter m on
Jun 2, 2008 1:42 PM EDT
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So if this is all true that its his hamstring that is the problem, than why not DL him? I think Shoppach even in his current drought of suckitude would be able to hit above a .700 OPS if given the consistent at-bats. Victor as a contact hitter with no power and doesn’t take walks is a pretty poor hitter.
by hans on
Jun 2, 2008 2:09 PM EDT
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Have to disagree huge with both points. Kelly Shoppach is, in my humble opinion, the worst-looking hitter on this team, and more atbats would just make me further ill. And Victor is currently a contact hitter with no power and doesn’t take walks…but I would never go as far as to say he is currently a pretty poor hitter. Disappointingly mediocre, maybe, but certainly not pretty poor.
by supermarioelia on
Jun 2, 2008 2:18 PM EDT
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I was going to refute this then I realized that the AL is full of mediocre offensive performances from most of its trulely talented catchers and some surprise numbers mixed in (Dionor Navorro’s .394 BABIP isn’t likely going to last)....
But the point being that we don’t make the playoffs with Victor putting up sub .700 OPS numbers, if its possible that he can come back from an injured hamstring and be close to 100% with some DL time I have take that gamble over his current rate. I have no medical experience so I don’t know if DL time will be the solution per se, but if this is Vic trying to play through it and all that captain of the team rah rah stuff, than I think he’d better serve us getting healthy.
by hans on
Jun 2, 2008 5:45 PM EDT
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Mario,
I agree with your thoughts about Shoppach; he’s best when used in limited quantities. But that does not change the fact that if Victor is, in fact, injured, he ought to sit.
More specifically, if the hamstring is the primary reason for Victor’s change in performance, then DL is an absolute must, no matter how much you hate watching Shoppach play. I’d gladly let Vic sit for as long as he needs if the result is a hitter who more closely resembles the guy who was our rock for several years.
by tabler84 on
Jun 2, 2008 7:49 PM EDT
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But hamstrings sometimes take a long time to heal. There’s no guarantee that by sitting for 15 days that it would clear it up. Maybe it would, but what if it doesn’t? Then you’ve wasted two weeks of the season without your best hitter, on a team that is dying for any offensive production.
If they were clairvoyant and could see that two months down the road he’d still be looking for a homer, then they maybe should’ve considered it and seen if it would’ve helped. But nobody (me, you, Victor, Wedge, Soloff, Shapiro, Slider, Wild Man of Borneo) would’ve predicted that.
by TribeJay on
Jun 3, 2008 12:29 AM EDT
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Victor Martinez is currently a poor hitter. His OPS+ is 87. Even for catchers, its not good news. He’s 11th amongst catchers in the American League in VORP. There is nothing mediocre about Vic’s performance, its been bad.
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by ClarkM on
Jun 3, 2008 12:33 AM EDT
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A propos of nothing in particular, I happened to google Victor Martinez, and this is the first thing that came up.

Doesn’t look like a contact hitter to me!!
by peter m on Jun 2, 2008 2:04 PM EDT 0 recs
I hope JulioBernazard (well not the Julio Bernazard) doesn’t mind if I post a link to his fanshot that he just posted, but it is backing up what TribeJay and others have been saying about Victor’s hamstring problem
fanpost link here
As I noted above this still doesn’t explain his walk rate nosedive, but does explain the loss of power. In the ESPN article there is no discussion as to when they think he’ll be back to normal, but rather that they think this is the problem…... I need some medical assitance here fellas, my novice assessment of hamstrings are that they are a tricky thing to peg on when a person is fully recovered from it, but is there any reason to think that is ok to play through it as victor has done and expect it to heal or is it possible that healing time would be so long that he would be lost for a majority of the season?
by hans on Jun 2, 2008 6:20 PM EDT 0 recs
This quote from Victor this morning made me cringe:
“If I hit [a home run], I hit one,” he said. “If I have zero homers for the whole season, I’ll have zero homers.”
I hope Victor starts feeling better soon.
by Jeffrey R on Jun 3, 2008 2:16 PM EDT 0 recs
That’s exactly the attitude you want him to have. The last thing you want is for him to start trying to hit homers.
by gahnki on
Jun 3, 2008 2:23 PM EDT
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*at the expense of making solid contact and maintaining a high OBP.
by gte619n on
Jun 4, 2008 9:18 AM EDT
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well he’s not exactly maintaining a high OBP when he’s only walking 5.5% of his plate appearances. so I’d like to here Victor have a better attitude on wasting swings on non-strike zone pitches.
by hans on
Jun 4, 2008 9:01 PM EDT
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