Where od the 2 spots on the 40 man come from? We get 1 if we move Jake to the 60 day DL, but I’m at a loss for the second.

Should have been a FanPost … Oh wait, there is one!

Down as in DL, right?

Bright side: These are the two guys you bring up just to DFA them afterwards. Thus it doesn’t sound like long term injuries.

So…things are pretty bleak right now. And not just because we’re x number of games under .500 and playing crappy…but even more because 3 of our cornerstone guys for the next several years (Westbrook, Hafner, Martinez) are on the DL with fairly substantive injuries which may affect their long term performance. And they simultaneously hurt our trading position.

Let’s Go Stadium Mustard!

Vic arthroscopic surgery on elbow Friday to remove loose objects, out 6-8 weeks

Westbrook 60-day DL
Oneli Perez DFA

so when could victor come back?

2008 is so fantastic.

You know, if Josh Barfield’s hurt, we’ll have to find somebody else for the Atkins package.

I’ll show you a finger Trebeck.

As bad as Martinez and Barfield/Cabrera have hit, it doesn’t really hurt us in the short term having these bench players get some extended playing time.

I don’t think the Giants are a likely trade partner for Sabathia’s services. Yes, he’s from the area and he would have a chance to bat. I would think that the Giants are a little gun shy. See Barry Zito. Cubs and Dodgers are my favorites but we can talk about this in another month if we are still struggling. I hate even numbered years.

Vic was batting from the left side during the at bat – is it his right elbow? As in, his throwing arm?

Well one very minor positive from all this is that Shapiro can begin shopping Byrd and CC in earnest a little earlier. I’m sure he’ll get a little more back for the extra time that the acquiring team will have them this season.

I’m thinking the Cubs and NYY are hungry enough to overpay.

Cripes we’ve officially turned into the Jays with all these injuries. And Velandia? I was making fun of this guy just over a month ago, and now he’s on our 25-man? Eek.

by supermarioelia on Jun 12, 2008 5:49 PM CDT actions 0 recs

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marte will always be our 25-man.

Who knew that when Wedge said “you’ve got to dig deep”, he was referring to Victor’s elbow.

Without looking it up, I’m still pretty sure our entire DL makes less money than the Yankees’ DL when A-Rod was on it.

‘President’ Blake’s comment speaks volumes:

“You look around,” third baseman Casey Blake said, “and it’s like, ‘Well, it’s just us.’”

Custer’s Last Stand?

Pride Comes Before the Fall
Custer’s troops went into battle with the pomp and parade of war that distinguished them around their camps.
But what he could see was enough to fire the blood of a man like Custer. Huge clouds of dust, nervous horses, frantic horsemen making a run for it, and down along the village, lively turmoil an confusion.
The warriors were by no means running from the fight, the brave warriors were making ready for battle!
The Indians correctly sensed his hesitation, fear, and indecision. He lost the element of surprise, he lost his momentum, and he lost the confidence of his own troops. He emboldened his enemy; “The White Chief was scared”
Military discipline and order were abandoned . . .
an inexcusable panic, due mainly to the incompetent conduct of a cowardly commander.
The question remained, what had happened to George Custer and his men?
Never comprehending the overwhelming odds against him . . .
Custer had sealed his fate.
Custer never saw the complete magnitude of the Indian Camp.
It is likely that this is the point that Custer realized that he was in trouble, and that he must cut his way out and escape the overwhelming enemy surrounding him.
Custer and his command was fully hemmed in, cut off, and losing men quickly. Custer must have realized that at this point retreat was impossible . . .
the last stand. They undoubtedly fought fiercely, but lost their lives to the superior numbers, and superior leadership and strategy . . .

feel free to make your own associations.

Full story: http://www.sonofthesouth.net/union-generals/custer/custers-last-stand.htm

I know . . . it’s really terrible . . . hyperbolic to the extreme.
Just thought it was funny (and it was the 1st entry on the google search).

Oneli! What would Keith Jackson say?

Why Haad? Why not Toregas?