San Diego Padres @ Cleveland Indians GameThread, Jun 15, 2008 1:05 PM EDT

Game Thread: June 15, 2008

by Ryan on Jun 15, 2008 12:30 PM EDT in Game Threads Comment 247 comments

San Diego Padres @ Cleveland Indians

San Diego at Cleveland, 1:05 PM (STO)

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San Diego:
J. Gerut- CF
E. Gonzalez- 2B
K. Kouzmanoff- 3B
A. Gonzalez- 1B
T. Clark- DH
J. Huber- LF
K. Greene- SS
M. Barrett- C
P. McAnulty

Cleveland:
G. Sizemore- CF
J. Carroll- 2B
B. Francisco- LF
R. Garko- 1B
S. Choo- DH
J. Peralta- SS
C. Blake- 3B
F. Gutierrez- RF
K. Shoppach- C

Maddux vs. Sabathia

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Extreme LOL at foul ball catch attempt

by ASP on Jun 15, 2008 1:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Did that hit him in the eye?

Tribe fan from far, far away

by LGT Patrick on Jun 15, 2008 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

sure looked like it.

The batter swings and the summer flies...

by cclemens31 on Jun 15, 2008 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jody Gerut… prototypical lead-off hitter???

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 1:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I like how much they are missing the ball so far.

Tribe fan from far, far away

by LGT Patrick on Jun 15, 2008 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

So, do you think there is anything to player’s day-night splits?

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Way to go CC!

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 1:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

wow—- its quiet in here.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

it is father’s day.

by Brick. on Jun 15, 2008 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

fair enough.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

did you guys know Kevin Kouzmanoff used to be an indian?

by Brick. on Jun 15, 2008 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

so i’m a little late here…what pitch was Sabathia getting so many swings and misses on?

by APV on Jun 15, 2008 1:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

swings and misses to Adrian Gonzalez:
95 fastball
95 fastball inside corner
84 slurve low and away

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

guess those NL guys aren’t used to seeing a real fastball

by APV on Jun 15, 2008 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, he got Kouzmanoff to swing and miss on a changeup I think. everything seemed to work except to Gerut and the first pitch to their # 2 hitter, which was crushed foul.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Baboo!

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hey, last night sucked huh?

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i didn’t see any of the last 5 innings, but i was pretty pissed when I got home… hence my drunken post.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Haven’t dug through the thread. My parents’ computer is slow.

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m not sure if the thread’s going to be as hilarious in the cold light of morning.

Hard truth: Your eyes lie.

by AngG on Jun 15, 2008 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

it’s certainly interesting

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 15, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Brick, where did clean the kitchen come from?

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

re-reading last night’s game thread. an awkward tangent with angG and GTE. i yanked it immediately out of context for my amusement.

by Brick. on Jun 15, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nothing like tweaking your back watching a lazer from Jamey Carroll go over your head.

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

who is injured?

by APV on Jun 15, 2008 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

McAnulty

Hard truth: Your eyes lie.

by AngG on Jun 15, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

uh oh…who’s Bunk gonna partner with now?

by APV on Jun 15, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i’m just mad no one got hte joke when i made it last night

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 15, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wasn’t around last night, but I would have gotten it

by APV on Jun 15, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

McAnulty… their right fielder.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Go Jamey Go.

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Weird. Maddux is a fatty.

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

wow, that couldn’t have ended much worse.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yea..not sure why Carroll wasn’t running on the chopper. Even if Maddux dives, is he really going to throw you out?

by xrickx on Jun 15, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that’s what Manning said- surprised he wasn’t going on first contact.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yet hamilton felt that he would’ve been dead at the plate if maddux fields the ball …

oddly, here i defer to manning, former baserunning coach.

by macasson on Jun 15, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

if Hamilton said that, he was flat out wrong. There’s no way either guy would have thrown him out at the plate.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 15, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow. Hamilton just informed me that runners are 24 of 26 against Michael Barrett.

And f off, Francisco. arrrgh.

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

hire running on Barrett… fire not realizing the ball was popped up and getting doubled off.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

>:(

Hard truth: Your eyes lie.

by AngG on Jun 15, 2008 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

AngG has a unibrow

by APV on Jun 15, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Only when angry.

Hard truth: Your eyes lie.

by AngG on Jun 15, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Asdrubal is now OPSing 1076 in Buffalo. Seriously, what’s wrong with the Cleveland clubhouse?

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Wedge wrecked the bathroom. Seriously, you should smell it in there. It’s awful.

by APV on Jun 15, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The skills were there in Cleveland. He was on pace for 444 ABs and 60 walks. He’s not lost at the plate. But he was chasing high fastballs all day long, not reacting to ball inside, and pulling (or trying to) everything.

I’m still really excited about him, and his play in Buffalo is reassuring.

by xrickx on Jun 15, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with all of that. But is there really this much of a difference between Buffalo and Cleveland, in either competition or environment? He’s gone from pretty abjectly horrible to, uhhh, Albert Belle.

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

SSS. plus a really big difference in talent. plus a minor hot streak.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He’s had 20 at-bats, has no walks, and five strikeouts. I’m glad he’s hitting, but that’s not gonna do it. And it’s just a few ABs. Can’t really tell anything from it.

And to answer your question about the difference between Cleveland and Buffalo, I defer to Yogi: “Ninety percent of this game is mental, and the other half is physical.”

by xrickx on Jun 15, 2008 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

How’s he supposed to walk?! He’s hitting .444!

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Still finding time to strike out…

by xrickx on Jun 15, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

.444!

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

what the hell, they just showed Francisco running, he looked back after hitting second and then started running to third.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 1:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I was more impressed that Garko rediscovered his high popup swing.

by xrickx on Jun 15, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

yea … I noticed that too – did he think there were 2 outs?

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 15, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

CC and Cliff have traded the magic “I’m the best pitcher of all time!’ hat.

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

You are dodging bullets, Mr. Maddux.

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He’s made a career out of it. I mean honestly, how does he do it?

by xrickx on Jun 15, 2008 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

C’mon. He used to be awesome. Now he’s just bizarre. I get that he likes pitching but what a weird anomaly he’s become-on like a 75 pitch count and giving up pretty many hard hit balls.

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Enough about Paul Byrd…tell me about Greg Maddux.

by xrickx on Jun 15, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

lol.

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also, Paul Byrd probably needs the money right?

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

75 pitches may carry him 7 or 8 innings at this damn rate

by macasson on Jun 15, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Greg Maddux might be the best right-handed pitcher of his era. He’s better than Clemens, no?

by odradek on Jun 15, 2008 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks, Casey.

Jackass.

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Sit down Craig Stansberry.

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Egard Gonzalez looks like an angry Aidran Gonzalez.

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

And Asdrubal already has a strikeout today.

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Anybody got video? Is CC ok?

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yea…it just deflected off his head and knocked his hat straight.

(Didn’t hit his head. He was fine.)

by xrickx on Jun 15, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mujica’s crooked hat looked stupid after he gave up all those runs. But CC’s still looks awesome.

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

a delicate caveat

by joeee on Jun 15, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

CC is getting checked out – hit him in the forearm, “appears to be alright”

by joeee on Jun 15, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Texas DFA RHP Robinson Tejeda. Think it’s time to dump Slocum from the 40 and grab an arm for Buffalo’s rotation?

by xrickx on Jun 15, 2008 1:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I am pushing for a Reid Brignac trade. At least in my head.

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Brignac had a huge year in 2006, but came back to earth last year in AA and hasn’t lit up anything in AAA so far. Granted, he’s only 22. But there’s always been questions about his defense at shortstop.

by xrickx on Jun 15, 2008 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know the book on him. I just think it’s a decent buy low opportunity, at a position where we need guys. If we could convert him to 2B, I think there’s potential value there.

I can’t imagine the Rays are all that interested in him. But maybe I’m wrong.

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They aren’t going to live with Barlett or Ben Zobrist at SS for very long. I think Brignac, for now, is their man.

by xrickx on Jun 15, 2008 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I had heard they really liked Bartlett. I haven’t watched them much but supposedly his defense has been difference making?

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don’t get me wrong. I’d love to add Brignac to the Tribe system, though.

by xrickx on Jun 15, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like Ronny Cedeno.

by xrickx on Jun 15, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah I’d take that.

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Slocum probably wouldn’t be my first choice, but I was also wondering whether the Indians might try to grab Tejeda

by APV on Jun 15, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

so much for good fielding am i right????

by joeee on Jun 15, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

F-F-F-Frank!

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Gutz should be stealing.

by xrickx on Jun 15, 2008 1:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

How can you throw anyone out when Maddux is delivering the ball to the player at 49 mph?

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

my cat is crazy overweight

by joeee on Jun 15, 2008 1:50 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs

potw nom.

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Guuuuuuuutz SB.

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

How are you gonna let Greg Maddux strike you out, Kelly?

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

grady hr maybe?

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 15, 2008 1:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

shoot

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 15, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

C’mon Carroll.

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Any of the 40 flyouts that have been hit since Ryan Garko’s pop-up would have scored the runner from third base.

by xrickx on Jun 15, 2008 1:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Weird.

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, Bfran.

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Beauty.

by xrickx on Jun 15, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Nice. Very nice.

The batter swings and the summer flies...

by cclemens31 on Jun 15, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

hot diggity!!!!

by macasson on Jun 15, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Making up for baserunning errors, to say the least.

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It IS Paul Byrd.

by xrickx on Jun 15, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

oh that’s weird

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 15, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Is it me, or does it seem like benFran tends to hit 3-run shots (while Peralta always hits solo-shots)?

by APV on Jun 15, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Just woke up and got here, I’m taking credit for that!!1

One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play

by new zealand tribe fan on Jun 15, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Nothing like playing the Fathers on Father’s Day.

The batter swings and the summer flies...

by cclemens31 on Jun 15, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Other than the obvious, this is a great inning. Maddux at 45 pitches.

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Alright. I’m going to golf. lgt.

by afh4 on Jun 15, 2008 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Happy Father’s Day if there are any Dads here.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 2:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

CC now has the same # strikeouts as Chuck Nagy.

The batter swings and the summer flies...

by cclemens31 on Jun 15, 2008 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

for career? cool. Where does that put him on the all time tribe list?

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The batter swings and the summer flies...

by cclemens31 on Jun 15, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

shoot

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 15, 2008 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The Padres have scored less runs than only Kansas City and Washington. Does our pitching staff know this?

by xrickx on Jun 15, 2008 2:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Does Sabathia EVER cover first base? C’mon dude…

by xrickx on Jun 15, 2008 2:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

yuck

by macasson on Jun 15, 2008 2:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Call was BS.

The batter swings and the summer flies...

by cclemens31 on Jun 15, 2008 2:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Maybe not. Sabathia being lazy is BS.

by xrickx on Jun 15, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

But he was covering the pitcher’s mound!

The batter swings and the summer flies...

by cclemens31 on Jun 15, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

agreed.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

does anyone else hate the new popup banner?

by joeee on Jun 15, 2008 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

to clarify, on the main LGT page? That big rectangular box that shows up?

by joeee on Jun 15, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I use Firefox with the NoScript plugin and all ads are blocked unless I give them permission.

Tribe fan from far, far away

by LGT Patrick on Jun 15, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i have safari which blocks popups and i still get it – has me worried. only at this site, though.

by joeee on Jun 15, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Back to square one. Way to hold a lead, CC.

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

yeah sabathia is tots the problem

by joeee on Jun 15, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

not really fair to put that on CC.

But I guess he is 4-8, he sucks. /sarc.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Casey’s gotta be getting close to breaking a club record for consecutive games started, no?

by supermarioelia on Jun 15, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

To save you the trouble, he’s at 14 including today.

by supermarioelia on Jun 15, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That’s probably not even a personal record for Casey, this year.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

But, it’s like the NBA. Not who starts, but who finishes is what matters. Marte finished a game a few days ago. He’s the key to the team’s late inning success!!

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Crazy thing to me is that it’s been 14 straight days. A quick peek shows that he played on 19 straight days last week, so this isn’t unprecedented.

by supermarioelia on Jun 15, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

last year

by supermarioelia on Jun 15, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I liked last week better.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 15, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ah, i see… that is somewhat remarkable. Although if more of those starts were at 1B or DH, we could understand because of injuries. alas, he is simply blocking your son… even on Father’s day.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

CHOOOOOOOOOO

by supermarioelia on Jun 15, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I really like Choo. Can he be real?

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

If he hits lefties, he’ll be very real.

by xrickx on Jun 15, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice to see JP hustle…though it was as quick as a brisk walk.

The batter swings and the summer flies...

by cclemens31 on Jun 15, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I know Casey is capable of a medium deep flyout.

by xrickx on Jun 15, 2008 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

To pitcher. But, it worked.

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Proving that RBI is a weird stat.

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

wasn’t quite proven until then

by joeee on Jun 15, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That was a gritty run.

by supermarioelia on Jun 15, 2008 2:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I want to save a copy of that atbat for display next time someone argues that RBI is a meaningful stat.

by supermarioelia on Jun 15, 2008 2:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yes. Taking 4 pitches (two for strikes) in a Sac Fly situation, then hitting a grounder to the pitcher. Excellent situational hitting.

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Col 2, CWS 0.

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think Shoppach is good again. I think.

by supermarioelia on Jun 15, 2008 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He flew out before you get excited, but it was deep.

by supermarioelia on Jun 15, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just got here, what the hell happened in CC’s last inning?

Also! BenFran!

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jun 15, 2008 2:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

K
5-3
K

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

wow, it really is quiet, I just realized, you probably meant the inning he gave up three runs-
It was a double, couple bloop hits. Key play was grounder to Garko and CC didn’t cover the bag, Garko got beat to first (at least thats how the ump saw it).

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ha, yeah. I couldn’t tell if you were being sarcastic or not, but since it’s like a library in here I didn’t want to say anything.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jun 15, 2008 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

well, it is appropriate for me since I’m outlining Crim Pro right now.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Both Maddux and CC are over 70 pitches through 4 innings. Looks like a rubber match for the battle of the bullpens.

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 2:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

this thread has died

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 15, 2008 2:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

We’re waiting for late inning heroics and all that.

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Look what Garko found.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jun 15, 2008 2:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hmm looks like a baseball and Adrian’s cleat.

The batter swings and the summer flies...

by cclemens31 on Jun 15, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that was a pretty nice play. Nice job Garko.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Underpants: “At least we don’t have to play Milwaukee this year and face Russell Branyan”
Manning: “I can’t believe he is still playing! He is like a cat with 9 lives.”

Branyan would probably go 10-12 with 5 HRs in a series against us.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 2:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

So, I have a question, it being Fathers’ Day. Which of the Indians position players have kids? Any of them?

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 2:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Grady has 12 kids… but he doesn’t know it.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Anything in the CrimPro text about that?

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ha, I don’t think so.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i had no idea CC had 9 k’s

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 15, 2008 2:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I agree. He hasn’t seemed that overwhelming. Good, but not great command.

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

9 k’s and 1 bb?

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 15, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know. That’s what surprised me. Seemed like a lot of deep counts, but he’s been able to get guys to swing and miss when it counted (except for that one inning).

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

except that one bad inning he has been incredibly dominant I think. Although it is really weird the balls that have been hit off him have been hit hard.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

gotta love the “NOUN!” by Maddux as soon as he let go of the pitch that Peralta hit.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Maddux over 100 pitches, no doubt this will be his last inning. Maybe last batter.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Both?

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

run(s)

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 15, 2008 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

ggooooooootttttzzzzzzz

by macasson on Jun 15, 2008 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Gutz with a nice AB there.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 3:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

come on shoppach draw a walk

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 15, 2008 3:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I was listening to the broadcast of the Reds/Cards in the car yesterday and the announcer (don’t remember who it was) was all over one of the Cards for trying to bunt for a hit in a 2-out situation with a runner on base. Said it was selfish and thought the guy was avoiding his responsibility to drive a runner in (and making it the next guy’s problem). Bunting may not be a good idea, but it’s like blaming the guy for trying to work a walk and keeping the inning alive. The Cards won the game, as it happened.

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sounds like a Marty Brenneman rant.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Although the Reds/Cards series was this week, yesterday the Reds played the Red Sox.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You’re right. It was the Red Sox. I’m more tired that I realized after that drive!

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It was the Cards/Phillies broadcast (and they were on one of the Phils). I picked up the Red Sox/Reds game after I lost that one. They’ve obviously blurred together in my mind. Sorry.

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It was one of the ESPN announcers. I’m blanking on their names.

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ROAR

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 15, 2008 3:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I still like Gutz

by APV on Jun 15, 2008 3:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Is 23 swings and misses in 94 pitches a lot… it seems like it, but I don’t know what is normal.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 3:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

CC at 105 pitches- how do we handle the last 2 innings, assuming we don’t score any more runs?

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I bet CC comes out to face Gerut, at least. Gerut homered off Perez last night.

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like Grady showing power.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Grady going for the AL lead in homers!!

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

GRADYYYYYYYYYYy

by supermarioelia on Jun 15, 2008 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

If Grady keeps this up it might be time to get him some more RBI opportunities…

by supermarioelia on Jun 15, 2008 3:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Marte could bat 9th? (tee hee).

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If Choo keeps this up I wouldn’t mind seeing him bat leadoff.

by supermarioelia on Jun 15, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That’s what Terry Pluto’s pushing (against righties, anyway).

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ah, nice. I did not know that, but this Pluto fellow has a point.

by supermarioelia on Jun 15, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I spend the first 5 minutes of every morning trying to figure out who can bat leadoff besides Grady.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bachoo!

by Julie on Jun 15, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

rec

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Have no time for anything but: Baboo!

And Grady! of course.

And BenFran!

by Julie on Jun 15, 2008 3:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Col 3, CWS 1. Come on Garko. Put this game away.

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Way to go Jhonny

One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play

by new zealand tribe fan on Jun 15, 2008 3:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Was the walk to Choo intentional (I don’t have the TV on right now?

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 3:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

nope.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

WOOOO! JHONNY!

by supermarioelia on Jun 15, 2008 3:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Jhonny!

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 3:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

RhBI!

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jun 15, 2008 3:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Check out that level swing plane. LEVEL.

by supermarioelia on Jun 15, 2008 3:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Another fine AB for Casey, the RBI guy. Meanwhile, the Sox have tied Colorado, 3-3.

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 3:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Nice inning for CC. Who pitches the 9th? (Bauer? Masa?)

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 3:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I’d guess Masa, Betancourt, or Perez. Unless we score 10 runs, then it will be Bauer.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 3:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Bats are alive, don’t give up hope yet

by Roger Dorn on Jun 15, 2008 3:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Whew. Come on, Rockies.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jun 15, 2008 3:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Rockies are hanging on—4-3. Win this game, then collapse utterly before the Indians fearsome bats!

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Game over. The Indians score more runs than LGT participants in today’s thread!

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 3:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Series win-I like.

by Matt Y. on Jun 15, 2008 3:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

all right, let’s get some help in the bullpen. jeff stevens will be up soon enough, but i think we need just one more arm – it would really help if betancourt could come back to life – and we’re in this thing baby.

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 15, 2008 3:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Or Jensen Lewis (he wasn’t good in Buffalo’s game today, though). Asdrubal had two more hits, though (and an error).

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pierzynski just fouled out with 1st and 3rd to end an inning. Happy Fathers’ Day!

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 4:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Just keep winning 2 out of 3

this team is starting to feel good

by ahowie on Jun 15, 2008 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, they have to beat the Padres of the universe with regularity or they have no chance.

Let's Go 2009!

by emd2k3 on Jun 15, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

How many AL teams would have outdrawn the Padres this weekend at the Prog?

by palcal on Jun 15, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Boston, NY for sure; Chicago, Detroit probably; Everyone else would be right around the same.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ChiSox had the bases loaded with two outs and Crede out but no dice. Back to 5.5 under.

Step 1) Get back to .500
Step 2) the world!

by ahowie on Jun 15, 2008 4:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

step 3) ????
step 4) PROFIT!

by wendigo on Jun 15, 2008 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ferengi?

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Five out of seven, right? Offense showing signs of consistency… it’s a marathon not a sprint!

by cheech99 on Jun 15, 2008 5:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

WE’RE GONNA DO THIS. OKAY? OKAY.

Hard truth: Your eyes lie.

by AngG on Jun 15, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

listen people it really is all about the bullpen. and i just have no trust in Masa really. we need Raffy B back, and maybe another bullpen arm and we’re good to go.

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 15, 2008 5:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

with no game tomorrow, this is my last game stateside until mid-august. here’s hoping for meaningful ball in august and september (and october)!

by macasson on Jun 15, 2008 5:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

New Indians: 3-1.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 15, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Last 6 game stats for select players:

Shoppach: .285 (6-21), 3 HRs, 7 RBIs, 10 SOs
todays game really hurt shoppach, dropping his average from .352 to .285 with a (0-4).

Carroll: .619 (13-21), 3 RBIs, 2 SOs

Choo: .333 (6-18), 2 2b, 1 hr, 6 RBIs, 4 SOs

Francisco: .375 (9-24), 2 2b, 7 RBIs, 1 hr, 1 SO.

what i make of this: we should probably experiment with carroll and choo for lead off.

by wendigo on Jun 15, 2008 6:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

NO NO NO. Sizemore is our leadoff hitter. Wedge attempted moving him last year and it sucked.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 15, 2008 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, it only sucked because other guys ahead of him didn’t perform. Sizemore did fine in the 3 hole during that time (OPS .911). He just didn’t have anyone to drive in in front of him (only 4 RBI’s in 8 games .. 2 of those were himself from HR’s).

I just hate seeing Grady lead off games and smack homeruns .. it seems like such a waste.

by Toxicadam on Jun 15, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Reasonable conclusion based on 6 games.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jun 15, 2008 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why?

Proud supporter of the Cleveland.

by fwembt on Jun 15, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Its true that they’ve been doing better partly because of Choo and Francisco’s continued success. Carroll has also been a nice surprise. But, let’s be honest. Can the offense rely on two guys who are basically rookies and a career utility player? We’ve won, also, because Sizemore and Peralta have been hitting more, and Garko was doing great until this series. Those are the guys who can make this offense effective.

by peter m on Jun 15, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Well, it sure beats relying on Dellucci and Blake like the team was before the New Indians era.

by Toxicadam on Jun 15, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Carroll’s a lot better player than you imagine. I expect him ot OPS around 750 and play a superior second base. He’s the answer this year for second.

"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Jun 16, 2008 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t disagree. But, he ain’t gonna carry the offense or go 3 for 5 consistently. He’s a good, solid player who won’t hurt you as long as you don’t ask him to do more than get on base and play his position pretty well. My point was that we can’t rely on guys like him, Francisco and Choo to be the offensive leaders—we need Peralta, Garko and Sizemore to play up to expectations, something they’ve started to do a bit more of late.

by peter m on Jun 16, 2008 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If this actually materializes, which is questionable, it should help our middle relievers:

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/83B21499-9E69-488F-A249-E3986BDC0742.htm

I'll regress to my career numbers if you do too!

by Fire Slider on Jun 15, 2008 11:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Tigers playing in San Francisco Monday night. Giants have lost all 6 IL games to the A’s, while the Tigers have won 6 straight and the Indians are the only team to beat them in the last 10 days.

The Tigers were in the Bay Area less than 2 weeks ago when the A’s swept them before the Tigers-Indians series.

Unless the Giants rise up Monday, the Tigers will have tied the Indians for 3rd place. The good news for the Indians is that Lincecum is going up against Verlander. Lincecum went 7 scoreless innings against the Rockies in his last start (Giants losing 1-0 in the 9th), lowering his ERA to 1.99.

by palcal on Jun 16, 2008 1:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs