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Mariners fire Bavasi; 29 GMs weep

It was good while it lasted, trade-wise.

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They didn’t want him to have the money? Or they fined him so much he lost his job?

I kid, I kid.

by Voltaire on Jun 16, 2008 3:33 PM EDT   0 recs

Idiotic typo fixed.

"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."

by Fiddlesticks on Jun 16, 2008 4:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

This is crazy. He made some excellent moves. He wasn’t in over his head at all.

by KevinV on Jun 16, 2008 3:36 PM EDT   0 recs

You are deeply confused.

He made a few nice moves, and a half-dozen outright disasters.

by Jay on Jun 16, 2008 3:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

“He wasn’t in over his head at all”.

This should have told you he was being sarcastic.

by Toxicadam on Jun 16, 2008 3:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Roger that.

by KevinV on Jun 16, 2008 3:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Sorry, missed it completely.

by Jay on Jun 16, 2008 4:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

While my friends in the Pacific Northwest rejoice, I sit in my dark corner weeping. Oh, Bavasi. Our time together was so magical.

Hard truth: Your eyes lie.

by AngG on Jun 16, 2008 3:38 PM EDT   0 recs

If I recall correctly we traded him both Broussard and Perez?

by mjschaefer on Jun 16, 2008 3:47 PM EDT   0 recs

I was actually thinking about doing a fanpost of these trades. They have to rank up there among the best for Shapiro. Even if Asdrubal falls from the face of the earth and Choo only turns out ot be a marginal player … it’s still a great deal for Shapiro. Anything from here on out is gravy.

by Toxicadam on Jun 16, 2008 3:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Perez for Asdrubal might be the best trade Shapiro has ever made, including the Colon deal.

It was literally a case where we got something for nothing. In Seattle, Perez had a total of 102 PA with a line of .195/.304/.241 as a DH.

At best, we gave up nothing and got a star defensive SS in return. At worst, we gave up nothing and recieved an organizational player in return.

by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jun 16, 2008 4:01 PM EDT to parent up   1 recs

I still can’t believe that trade actually happened.

Hard truth: Your eyes lie.

by AngG on Jun 16, 2008 4:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

oh, I know.

Bavasi was something else. He really had a unique concept of “value”. That’s what I’ll miss the most about him.

by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jun 16, 2008 4:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Can’t agree with the Colon deal – as my brother pointed out, it is likely that Grady, Lee, and Phillips are all All-Stars this year. Whoops.

by joeee on Jun 17, 2008 12:36 PM EDT to parent up   1 recs

As of 2006, I’d say the Hafner deal was better. At least we gave up talent to the Expos.

Now with Lee and Hafner trading places on the awesome scale I’d say differently.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jun 17, 2008 12:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Superfluous comma.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jun 17, 2008 12:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

that was the name of my band in college.

by Brick. on Jun 17, 2008 12:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The guy who just corrected his own grammar with the word “superfluous” thinks you’re a nerd.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jun 17, 2008 12:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think you need the comma! You could even argue for additional commas after Now and scale in the second sentence. Nerds are we all.

by peter m on Jun 17, 2008 1:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I am also pro-comma. Not one after Now, but after scale could go either way, and the comma that’s currently in that sentence seems fine to me. But perhaps we’re holding ourselves to AP style now, and I never could get the hang of the AP’s aversion to commas.

Hard truth: Your eyes lie.

by AngG on Jun 17, 2008 2:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I used to lean pro-comma. I now lean anti-comma. I go case-by-case.

by Jay on Jun 17, 2008 3:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I am less pro-comma than I once was.

Hard truth: Your eyes lie.

by AngG on Jun 17, 2008 4:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

My experience is that most writers use commas where they ought not to, and fail to use them where they should. But I’ve also found that, when I’m having that debate with myself, the sentence is usually too long.

Let’s go, Tribe.

by fleerdon on Jun 17, 2008 4:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Depends who you consider to be a writer, I guess.

by Jay on Jun 17, 2008 4:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

(And God forbid any of our real professional writer readers should weigh in on this. Cowards. I know you’re reading this.)

by Jay on Jun 17, 2008 4:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

what do you consider to be a professional writer?

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 17, 2008 5:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I’m a poet; does that count? (It never seems to. sniffle)

by Julie on Jun 17, 2008 6:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Professional’s do what they do for money. Amateurs do not. Simple, no?

"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Jun 17, 2008 6:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i used to be a paid writer. what does that make me now?

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 17, 2008 6:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

A washed up writer.

"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Jun 17, 2008 8:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Count me as a washed up writer as well.

Proud supporter of the Cleveland.

by fwembt on Jun 18, 2008 9:48 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

at 23 … sad …

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 18, 2008 1:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

See Fitzgerald, F. Scott or Salinger, J.D.

"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Jun 18, 2008 7:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

if i had written what was widely acclaimed as one of the greatest pieces of american literature ever, i could stand to be washed up at my young age.

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 18, 2008 8:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

This is wildly unfair to both of these writers.

by afh4 on Jun 19, 2008 12:01 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And being wildly unfair is something new to this site?

"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Jun 19, 2008 11:46 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And being sactimonious isn’t?

by afh4 on Jun 19, 2008 12:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

sanctimonious.

sheesh.

by afh4 on Jun 19, 2008 12:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Isn’t spellcheck a wonderful device? I should use it more often myslef.

"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Jun 19, 2008 1:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

An alcoholic.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jun 17, 2008 10:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I get money at times, but I have another job.

So, no.

by Julie on Jun 17, 2008 6:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah. I’ve been paid for my writing before, but not in the sense of not having a day job. (And, if I’m being honest, I don’t think I’d want writing to be my day job anyway.)

Hard truth: Your eyes lie.

by AngG on Jun 17, 2008 7:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Figuring out that sentences shouldn’t be 4 lines long really helped cure me of my commaphilia.

Hard truth: Your eyes lie.

by AngG on Jun 17, 2008 4:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What is your opinion on the semicolon? I use it a lot, but I’m not sure that I should.

by jhon on Jun 17, 2008 6:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

that’s okay ;)

by Brick. on Jun 17, 2008 6:08 PM EDT to parent up   1 recs

hilar

by joeee on Jun 17, 2008 6:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i used to be all about the semi-colon.

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 17, 2008 6:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

you use it when joining two independent clauses; it is easy to screw up.

by joeee on Jun 17, 2008 6:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If you’re using one more than once a page, you’re usually using too many semi-colons.

Hard truth: Your eyes lie.

by AngG on Jun 17, 2008 6:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i will disagree vehemently with this common sense. just because it’s usually misused doesn’t mean using it is wrong. also see above about how i used to love semi-colons.

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 17, 2008 6:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

We could check Elements of Style or something, but you shouldn’t overuse special punctuation. The goal is to be clear, not distracting as hell.

by joeee on Jun 17, 2008 6:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Personally, I try to avoid using too many semicolons not because of the punctuation itself, but to keep myself from being too repetitive with my sentence structure.

Hard truth: Your eyes lie.

by AngG on Jun 17, 2008 7:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

that’s the same reason i rarely use capital letters.

by Brick. on Jun 17, 2008 7:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

There is something slightly pompous about the semi-colon.

by Jay on Jun 18, 2008 12:56 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Really? I find the semi-colon to be more of the white trash cousin of the colon.

Proud supporter of the Cleveland.

by fwembt on Jun 18, 2008 9:50 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Colon had to go to semi-colon’s house for Christmas this year. It was sick. The house smelled like pee and cigarettes, semi-colon’s girlfriend’s baby wouldn’t stop crying, and the meatballs and beef tips made Colon nauseated.

by joeee on Jun 18, 2008 1:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

mmm tips.

semi-colon has a sweet ATV though

by jhon on Jun 18, 2008 3:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

See Bartolo shouldda gone to Momma’s instead.

"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Jun 18, 2008 7:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You need a semi-colonoscopy.

by Jay on Jun 19, 2008 11:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I heard that semi-colon’s girlfriend’s baby isn’t even semi-colon’s.

Proud supporter of the Cleveland.

by fwembt on Jun 19, 2008 11:43 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Totally unsuplerfluwhatever. Introductory dependent clause, right? You’d also be in the clear with commas after “Now” and “scale.”

had about six consecutive typos; gave up

by fleerdon on Jun 17, 2008 4:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Okay! Everybody be careful with asterisks!

Man, can’t the SBN people just trust us to learn the three HTML tags we need to post here? Sheesh.

by fleerdon on Jun 17, 2008 4:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

People on the Internet never use asterisks for anything other than indicating things are bold, right?

Hard truth: Your eyes lie.

by AngG on Jun 17, 2008 4:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Clearly you haven’t read your Posnanski.

"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Jun 17, 2008 6:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Aren’t those called Pozterisks?

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 19, 2008 1:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow, I can’t, believe we; had so much conver!sation about this…..

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jun 17, 2008 6:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Don’t forget the Gregorio Rosario fleecing

by Roger Dorn on Jun 16, 2008 5:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

This is the week! Time to live up to the hype!

by dgcambridge on Jun 16, 2008 5:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

DG – email me about when/where to meet up tomorrow. I posted my email in the Coors thread, but it’s off the front page now.

ap.steigerwald (at) gmail (dot) com

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jun 16, 2008 5:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I will. No response from kova or DTF that I saw. She may still be upset about fight over Garko.

by dgcambridge on Jun 16, 2008 6:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And the Chris Antonetti calls have already commenced.

by xrickx on Jun 16, 2008 5:00 PM EDT   0 recs

I wonder if we could trade Antonetti for some offense. It’d probably be hard to get equal value back though.

by Pronk33 on Jun 16, 2008 5:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don’t think I would consider any player on their roster an upgrade on offense besides Ichiro. I’m doubting that Bavasi has left much in their system either. I’d take J.J. Putz and Felix Hernadez for Antonetti though… maybe.

by DaytonDogg on Jun 16, 2008 9:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ha, I was going to type Ichiro in there. I figured what’s the point if he’s just going to go on the DL from punching himself in the face before every home series.

by Pronk33 on Jun 16, 2008 9:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I thought I was the only one who did that.

by Julie on Jun 17, 2008 6:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

USSMariner already has a couple of posts related to courting Antonetti

by APV on Jun 17, 2008 8:58 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

They make a good case. I’m tempted to send a resume.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jun 17, 2008 9:10 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

No offense to the Mariners, but if Antonetti turned down the Cardinals, how likely do we think it is that he would go to Seattle? Obviously a bigger offer would do the trick, but it seems like the Tribe has a succession plan in place, and I don’t think Antonetti will want to leave his precious DiamondView behind.

by Roger Dorn on Jun 17, 2008 9:53 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What Roger said. Maybe cash will make a difference, but Seattle is a much worse situation than St. Louis was. Unless Antonetti wants to a situation where he has to rebuild an organization from the ground up.

by Ryan on Jun 17, 2008 11:04 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Right, and the fall-out from the Cards offer seems to be the succession plan we’ve all heard rumours about.

by Voltaire on Jun 17, 2008 3:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I enjoy the thought that Kenny Williams is capable of fleecing Bavasi.

by Voltaire on Jun 16, 2008 9:12 PM EDT   0 recs

Weird timing—but I guess they had to let him follow through the draft, since no successor could have been prepared for it.

Let the firesale commence.

by jhon on Jun 16, 2008 10:11 PM EDT   0 recs

Huh? I doubt there are many — if any — GM’s who are so heavily involved in the draft that it couldn’t get done essentially the same without him.

by Jay on Jun 16, 2008 10:57 PM EDT