Trade Everyone! - Wait. What?
| TRADE EVERYONE! an epic survey in six parts |
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| 1 | The Starters by Ryan |
| 2 | The Infield by Jay |
| 3 | Wait. What? by Andrew (afh4) |
| 4 | The Prospects by Adam (APV) |
| 5 | The Outfield + Pronk by Ryan |
| 6 | The End by Jay |
JOHN ADAMS
Presumably controlled, like all Cleveland fans, until his death.
- PRO - Other teams are salivating for a guy like Adams-shows up at the ballpark day after day and does his job; Steve Phillips has compared Adams favorably to Darren Daulton.
- PRO - Adams is somewhere between 55 and 58 years old and at some point there's got to be a downturn in his performance. Do the Indians want to be left holding the bag on Adams the day he starts hitting the drum like Trot Nixon hits baseballs?
- CON - Depth is not a strength at the "Mustachioed Man Who Hits Drum In Bleachers" position. The only other person associated with the organization that could conceivably step up and replace Adams is Chuck and Chuck has little rhythm and too much attitude, at least according to Tony Lastoria.
- CON - Wouldn't clear significant payroll space as he's paid by a company that's not the Cleveland Indians.
- CON - Who else on this roster has the guts to oppose the Stamp Act of 1765? Maybe Dellucci. Maybe.

JOEL SKINNER
Salary: Hopefully Minimal.
- PRO - If you could somehow send GMs a photo of Joel Skinner standing next to Casey Blake at third, and then convince the GMs that it was some sort of puzzle where one of the two men in the picture was a valuable commodity, I think most GMs would assume the answer had to be Skinner.
- CON - Does everybody realize that Skinner went 448-333 in the minors as a manager, Including 86-59 one year in Buffalo? Grain of salt and all that but, sheesh. Maybe he has the wrong job.
GHOST OF LOUIS SOCKALEXIS
Salary: Paid in misery and horror.
- PRO - Finally unburdened from the legacy of a man who once self-defenestrated from the second story window of a brothel, suffered from alcoholism, tuberculosis and bad fielding, and just generally looked sad, the Indians would almost surely begin to win world championships. Even though his death doesn't correspond with a date post the last Cleveland championship.


- CON - The market for ghosts has really cooled since the Yankees albatross signing of the specter of William Howard Taft.
SLIDER
Controlled through never. Literally uncontrollable.

- PRO - Slider is an HBP machine a lot of teams could use; no matter where he stands in the batter's box, his waist reaches across home plate.
- PRO - Slider's waist is disgusting and getting it out of town has no downside. What is in there? Why does it have yellow spots all over it?
- CON - Slider is key to Josh Barfield's success; the purple one willingly takes the brunt of the "Man, those eyebrows are ridiculous! Are those even real eyebrows? Is there a walrus birthing from your head a la Zeus and Athena?" comments in both the media and the clubhouse, allowing Barfield to concentrate on striking out three times a game in AAA.
- CON - No matter what you think of Slider, he produces some great moments. There was the time he repelled into the stadium, there was the time he got beat up by two other mascots leading to an all time great youtube clip description: "Slider of the Indians, fighting with two other things." And there was this:
The best part of this, by far: "... Mustard, simply the All-American boy, and Onion, she's the diva of the group, always looking good." - CON - Clutch, generally has been immune from team-wide slumps or postseason pressure.
VICTOR'S POWER
- Check. The return of one run at glory doesn't appear to have been worth the price.
FRANK G. JACKSON
$119, 712.36 salary, signed through 2010

- PRO - He's an advocate for regionalism. Do you want to cheer for the Cleveland-Cuyahoga Indians? That day's coming in Jackson's world.
- Is Cleveland's first African-American Italian-American mayor. This isn't a pro or a con. It's a fun fact.
- PRO - Some injury history, and despite outstanding track record as a young minor leaguer, has never looked "above" Triple-A pitching, not clear he can govern above replacement level in the majors.
- CON - He brought back the mounted police unit in Cleveland. That seems like fun.
- CON - Has the kind of beard you want on the field whenever possible, even if there's a younger, more talented, less bearded mayor behind him ARG ARG MY EYES BLEED THE TEARS OF KNOWING ARG
- CON - Photo analysis reveals that he could probably beat up Michael Bloomberg and Thomas Menino, possibly at once. This matters.
- CON - The majors are littered with mayors that the Indians have quit on too early because of "personality conflicts." Brandon Phillips: mayor of Cincinnati; Sean Casey: mayor of fat empty average city, population: fat men; and Milton Bradley: mayor of Wrong Kong Ballbag Village, the made up city in Milton Bradley's head. If I can dig up the minutes of a town hall meeting from Wrong Kong Ballbag Village, I'll post them.
CASEY BLAKE'S BEARD
$6.1 Million; formerly split salary with rest of Casey Blake, now is only part of Casey Blake worth paying.
- PRO - If traded, Casey Blake must go with, assuming the beard enforces its "No Shave Clause." Which, coincidentally, is the same clause my father would invoke on family vacations, upsetting my mother and looking like a vagrant for a week.
- CON - Casey Blake's not any worse than the rest of them, people. Get over it.
- CON - Have you seen that beard? Give me my medicine and put me to bed, doctor. My heart can't take anymore.
MATT UNDERPANTS
Salary: More than the gross municipal product of SOUVENIR CITY!
- PRO - Matt Underpants would be gone.
- CON - Nobody else wants Matt Underpants.
LAKE ERIE
No Salary, Controlled Indefinitely
- PRO - Useful player, high-quality defender who could be attractive to a "fat" contender looking to shore up weak depth.
- PRO - It's Great!
- PRO - Is the southernmost, shallowest, and smallest by volume of all the Great Lakes. Erie is simply not the player analysts often make it out to be.
- PRO - Might actually be able to play baseball in April if Erie is traded.
- CON - GLBC might go with it. Not good.
- CON - It's harder than it looks to find a quality lake on the open market.
AMY HAFNER
Assuming no prenup, salary is 57 Million over the rest of this and next 3 seasons. Not under team control. Clearly.
- PRO - Either Proon goes with her or Pronk stays behind.
- CON - Isn't this all Ron Mahay's fault or something?
ERIC WEDGE
Salary: Paid exclusively in buckets of grit scraped off of Casey Blake and Trot Nixon, which he then converts to dollars at a currency exchange run by Craig Biggio dressed in an original Ty Cobb uniform.

- PRO - What can it possibly hurt?
- PRO - As in professional. As in hitters. As in we don't have any and I want to blame somebody so it might as well be Eric.
- PRO - Eric and Casey could probably be traded together, making everyone happy.
- CON - He's going to do an excellent job somewhere next year. What we should really be doing is let Wedge manage in odd-numbered years and letting Andy Marte manage in even numbered years. I mean, he's on the bench anyway! (I realize he's actually playing some now. But with material like this, how can I let facts get in the way!)
NATE PANTHER
Salary: RAWR.
- PRO - RAWR.
- CON - RAWR.
IN GENERAL: 60 YEARS OF VARIOUS FORMS OF FAILURE
No Salary, Controlled Indefinitely
- PRO - Obvious.
- CON - None.
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66 comments
Comments
I’m not sure if that was a highlight or not either, dude introducing the new Sugardale wieners. (But no cute resealable package.)
Hard truth: Your eyes lie.
by AngG on Jun 2, 2008 12:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Also, if you trade John Adams, I go too.
Hard truth: Your eyes lie.
by AngG on Jun 2, 2008 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I think John is the only untouchable on this list.
But wait. Carl Stokes isn’t still mayor?
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Jun 2, 2008 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ONE MILLION 'CANADIAN SOLDIERS'
PRO: If dealt, they can be then dealt numerous times to follow around Justin everywhere he goes
PRO: Renewable resource. Who knows when one million more will come down from Canada.
CON: Would we have to pull the awesome commercial they’re featured in?
CON: Yankee fans, seeing that we got something in return for them, really start believing the bugs are why we beat them.
The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.
by westbrook on Jun 2, 2008 2:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That wasn’t Taft the Yankees signed it was David Wells.
proverbial "moron in a hurry"
by 94neverout on Jun 2, 2008 8:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m with Ang on John Adams. Dealbreaker.
Lay off Amy Hafner.
by tabler84 on Jun 2, 2008 10:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree. Its for his own good.
If he has his way with her, he’ll probably start producing posts at a cleveland.com level.
There’s a world for what she is: succubus.

by KevinV on Jun 2, 2008 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://i32.tinypic.com/71nu60.jpg
Last try.
by KevinV on Jun 2, 2008 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sorry, Jay. Amy Hafner is awesome and you have to just step down on this one.
Hard truth: Your eyes lie.
by AngG on Jun 2, 2008 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
There’s no crush; she’s just a friend. We’re not BFFs, as the kids say. We talk occasionally. But I admit I’m sensitive about it.
So there. I’ll try to be over it. You’re mean.
by tabler84 on Jun 2, 2008 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought my con actually sort of implied “This Amy Hafner business is nonsense.” Or so I intended. I have no quarrel with Amy Hafner.
You, on the other hand.
by afh4 on Jun 2, 2008 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, you and I have a quarrel. And it could end with me killing you with a trident. Watch your back for a barbershop quartet of men wearing makeup that morphs into a killing machine.
by tabler84 on Jun 2, 2008 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i may have read too fast, but i came away thinking that amy hafner was the onion hot dog.
by Brick. on Jun 2, 2008 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I wish I could rec this harder.
Hard truth: Your eyes lie.
by AngG on Jun 2, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s funny, this gets back to the whole media/relationship thing. Amy Hafner clearly is a fair target for satire, as long as certain lines aren’t crossed. Andrew writes the mildest, most low-profile Amy Hafner entry possible, you don’t even know her all that well, and you still can’t handle it. This despite the fact that you are one of the only media professionals here! Just imagine if someone here actually knew Casey Blake!
by Jay on Jun 2, 2008 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
reminds me of a story of a guy i knew that once had a beer with roger clemens.
by Brick. on Jun 2, 2008 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear Roger Clemens is a d-bag.
Hard truth: Your eyes lie.
by AngG on Jun 2, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know someone who played golf with him a few times. And he confirmed that he’s an absolute d-bag.
by gahnki on Jun 2, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh, this is no big deal. It’s certainly not related to any debate about media / relationships. I’m not a reporter here, obviously, and I hope you’ll take my word when I say that I have no qualms about reporting real news—no matter who is the focus.
The truth is I’m just a little more wary because of some of the things she’s told me recently, which I don’t care to relate, but you’ve got me pinned. I’ve been a wimp about this. So I’ll just add that if Travis had never met her, maybe he’d be ready to leave town, and I wouldn’t have to listen to Chuck tell me he was right, blah blah blah, so yeah, maybe I should blame her.
by tabler84 on Jun 2, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very funny stuff.
I think that Frank Jackson understands that the Indians have a problem. It’s just that he hasn’t done anything about it.
by gahnki on Jun 2, 2008 10:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Trade Everybody series; I read it and thought, easily replicated format, lots of straight lines … it was like a parody plum waiting to be plucked off the parody plum tree.
by fleerdon on Jun 3, 2008 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t mean to imply you did anything other than hit it out of the park, though.
by fleerdon on Jun 3, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The mayor section is extremely hard to read. Otherwise, nice work.
by JulioBernazard on Jun 2, 2008 10:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait, really? Is my syntax too convoluted on that list or something? Let me know and I’ll try to clarify it…
by afh4 on Jun 2, 2008 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol…Frank Jackson just says extremely a lot. Almost every time he is speaking he uses “extremely.”
by gahnki on Jun 2, 2008 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh. I think I’ve just revealed that every thing I know about Frank Jackson I learned in about ten minutes last night using google.
by afh4 on Jun 2, 2008 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would do something like this:
The majors are littered with mayors that the Indians have quit on too early because of “personality conflicts.” Brandon Phillips, mayor of Cincinnati; Sean Casey, mayor of Fat Empty Average City, population: fat men; and Milton Bradley, mayor of Wrong Kong Ballbag Village, the made-up city in Milton Bradley’s head. If I can dig up the minutes of a town hall meeting from Wrong Kong Ballbag Village, I’ll post them.
by JulioBernazard on Jun 2, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess he Julio was referring to the mayor section. But Frank Jackson does say extremely an extreme amount.
by gahnki on Jun 2, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is just pure brilliance. I can’t believe how much pure gold you’ve produced in the past few months, and I haven’t even seen a lot of the game threads.
Burn on, big river, burn on...
by Turkmenbashi on Jun 2, 2008 10:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
as i read, i was hoping Luis Issac’s Kangol hat would have an entry.
by Brick. on Jun 2, 2008 11:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Isaac was on the short list. I think it’s only you and I that still remember and think about that Kangol hat. I’m not sure anyone else is on board with just how funny Kangol is.
by afh4 on Jun 2, 2008 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Kangol Louis” should be the next bobblehead give-away, people would come out in droves.
by Pronk33 on Jun 2, 2008 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tried to photoshop it during the vintage bottle o’ suck thread, but my photoshop license had expired. Excellent job Brick.
by JK in CBus on Jun 2, 2008 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I was going to give you an “A,” but then I realized that you failed to write about Luis Isaac as assigned, so … you get a gentleman’s C-minus.
by Jay on Jun 2, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I swear to god I thought there was latitude in the assignment description.
CURSE YOU PROFESSOR LEVIN!
by afh4 on Jun 2, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carlos Tosca is the answer to all of the Indians’ problems.
by gte619n on Jun 2, 2008 12:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can’t wait for Part 4—The LGTers.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Jun 2, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh, this has to happen.
i nominate tyler to write it.
by Brick. on Jun 2, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure if I’m good enough to take requests, Brick. Like Borowski, I’m heavily dependent on the element of surprise.
by fleerdon on Jun 3, 2008 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel like we could get two or three really top prospects for some of these guys.
On the other hand, you just know that a guy like wendigo’s going to flourish elsewhere.
Hard truth: Your eyes lie.
by AngG on Jun 2, 2008 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Rec
Also, E5 is currently writing Pulitzers.
by tabler84 on Jun 2, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m like the mediocre, seldom-used utility guy in a power-packed lineup. The Enrique Wilson of LGT, if you will.
by Chemo on Jun 2, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m thinking I’m in Kinston.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Jun 2, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I’m a LOOGY. ;_;
Hard truth: Your eyes lie.
by AngG on Jun 2, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Enrique was part of one of my favorite plays ever: falling over rounding third base against the Yankees in what I think was the 1998 ALCS game 2
by Roger Dorn on Jun 2, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Enirque: a name ruined for me by My So-Called Life.
Hard truth: Your eyes lie.
by AngG on Jun 2, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My spelling: ruined for me by commenting at work.
Hard truth: Your eyes lie.
by AngG on Jun 2, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah, john adams. the pride of breckville. pays for two season tickets for him and his drum, been doing so since the days of municipal…gets the crowd into the game which boosts the indians…and the front office still doesnt give him free season tickets, or even for his drums spot.
absolute travesty.
by wendigo on Jun 2, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, said, Dean Wormer. I grew up spending my summers in Municipal Stadium (avg attendance. 4000, or so it seemed). Man, did that drum sound good in that cavernous hole.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Jun 2, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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