Cleveland Indians @ Los Angeles Dodgers GameThread, Jun 22, 2008 4:10 PM EDT

Choo bats third, Jhonny fourth, Garko fifth. Dellucci, not Ben Fran in left. And, of course, no Marte.

by peter m on Jun 22, 2008 3:31 PM EDT reply actions

I guess I should put on pants for game time…

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 3:47 PM EDT reply actions

You have 10 minutes. Better hustle.

by jhon on Jun 22, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions

I was thinking about taking them off.

Miserable, couch potato-ish Sunday in Cleveland. Sun gave way to storms gave way to Ohio gray.

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by Fire Slider on Jun 22, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Let STO take you away to sunny LA!

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Any predictions about Byrd’s outing this afternoon? No way he gets shelled again, right?

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by Fire Slider on Jun 22, 2008 4:02 PM EDT reply actions

i think he gets shelled

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions

This is one of those games that I really don’t have a good feeling about.

by Fundamentals on Jun 22, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions

he was on a 1 good-1 bad game regimen for awhile. that ended with his last start, which should have been good, but was bad.

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

High-level analysis, and I like it.

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by Fire Slider on Jun 22, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions

that’s why i get the big bucks and the ladies

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions

L.L. APV

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Rocked.

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions

I’ll be contrarian. I think he’ll be fine. I get the impression the Dodgers like to put the ball in play pretty early and that helps Byrd, I think.

He’s not that damn bad. He’ll find a way to finish the season with an ERA under 5. And that means he has some good starts coming.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m thinking because this Dodgers lineup isn’t stellar, Byrd gives up no more than 5 runs. 6 IP should be reached.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions

my vote for Byrd: no confidence (disclaimer: I have been wrong more times than right in regards to Byrd)

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Byrd is your Sowers.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Doing some maths here:

Byrd is on pace to pitch 172 Innings in 31 starts, giving up 42 HR! 42!

by jhon on Jun 22, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions

42 homers, holy shoot. Isn’t Vic Martinez on pace for that many, too?

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by Fire Slider on Jun 22, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Something like that. Eric Milton allorwed 42 in ‘04 in 201 IP. I think more Home Runs were hit in that season, and his home field was a bandbox

by jhon on Jun 22, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Hopefully the Dodgers take their cuts and hit ‘em “too high”, where he only gives up two or three solo HRs through 6 IP.

by jhon on Jun 22, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions

(Whispers) Do the maathh.

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions

this should be under your 42 homer projection.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions

I hope Casey Blake gets a chance to play

by Fios on Jun 22, 2008 4:04 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs

Yeah let’s see what he can do.

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by Fire Slider on Jun 22, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions

I kind of like us against Billingsley. Is that crazy?

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:08 PM EDT reply actions

How dirty is Italy by the way?

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:08 PM EDT reply actions

i’ve found this match the most boring so far of an otherwise thrilling (and very surprising) set of quarter-final matches. both these teams look slow.

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Well Fabregas is on now. We’ll see if that helps.

You don’t buy my theory that the Indians are getting super aggressive with KDLC?

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions

I’d be kind of happy if they were…but that doesn’t seem to be their style

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Why wouldn’t they just take the guy from Kinston in that rotation slot and spot start him?

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions

they move people around in strange ways to make spot starts now and then. a few weeks back they had Josh Tomlin, who hasn’t pitched above Kinston and has mainly pitched out of the pen, make a spot start in Buffalo. i assume it just has to do with availability and convenience to some degree

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Hmm.

You know better than I. It just seems like a weird thing to do with one of our few A+++++++++++++++ prospects.

If he’d gone 7 scoreless would he be staying?

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions

who knows…everything I’ve got is conjecture. i haven’t found any quotes about the start from any front office people.

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions

It’s frustrating there’s not just a press release.

Wyatt Toreagas is hitting a little!

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Do Europeans act like this when they’re actually getting in fights? Like patting each other on the cheeks, smiling?

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:14 PM EDT reply actions

Actually, yes. That is the usual precursor to a fight in the league in which I play. It’s very bizarre and I hate having other men touching my face. Which may be why they do it.

Proud supporter of the Cleveland.

by Brad D on Jun 22, 2008 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Ouch.

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 4:14 PM EDT reply actions

Choo Soup

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 4:14 PM EDT reply actions

This is where we’re at guys. Shin-Soo Choo is our best position player.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply actions

On the soccer tip again, anybody see this bootleg feed on the USA-Barbados game?

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:17 PM EDT reply actions

Hammy: “[Byrd] is not gonna have a chance to face Milwaukee this year… at least not withthe Indians”

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 4:18 PM EDT reply actions

What’s his rationale?

by jhon on Jun 22, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions

one of two teams he has never beaten?

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions

I like Hamilton but if anyone occasionally deserves to get Milton Bradleyed, it might be him.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions

So… Byrd should storm up to the booth after the game and demand an apology that he doesn’t deserve then go back to the clubhouse and start weeping about being misunderstood?

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by Fire Slider on Jun 22, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Byrd … umm…

SUCKS

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 4:19 PM EDT reply actions

Aaaand we’re off.

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 4:19 PM EDT reply actions

Well, that answers the Byrd question.

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by Fire Slider on Jun 22, 2008 4:19 PM EDT reply actions

This salsa I’m eating is good.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:20 PM EDT reply actions

sell sell sell

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 4:21 PM EDT reply actions

Yeah, I think Byrd is in a situation similar to what Wickman was in with us in ‘06. Hopefully there will be a Max Ramirez at the other end of this,...

by jhon on Jun 22, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions

Huzzah.

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 4:21 PM EDT reply actions

I wonder if there’s a Dodgers game thread…

See you guys later.

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by Fire Slider on Jun 22, 2008 4:21 PM EDT reply actions

Anybody getting this Vin Scully story about Byrd’s dad waking him up to play baseball?

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:21 PM EDT reply actions

Maybe it’s just because I didn’t grow up listening to him, but I’m not gung-ho about Vince Scully the way everyone else seems to be.

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah me either. He’s just a goofy old man to me.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Summarize it for us?

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by Fire Slider on Jun 22, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Pretty much that’s it. His dad retired from being a police officer to play more ball with young Paul.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions

I sure hope our offense makes some noise this afternoon or this could be a really long game.

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 4:22 PM EDT reply actions

Yea, on paper this is a massacre. It’s not looking good in reality. Everything Byrd is throwing is up, up, and up.

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Paul Byrd’s mom was a director of finance, according to Scully.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:23 PM EDT reply actions

For whom? The hit factory?

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by Fire Slider on Jun 22, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions

the Eliminate WHIP Consortium

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions

F

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 4:25 PM EDT reply actions

OH SHIT

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 4:25 PM EDT reply actions

Poor Paul.

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by Fire Slider on Jun 22, 2008 4:25 PM EDT reply actions

Sadly, I am correct

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 4:25 PM EDT reply actions

Good lord, Scully has endless Paul Byrd stories.

Byrd’s father-in-law, right before Byrd’s wedding, was involved in a contest in the world cup where he had make a goal to win a million. He missed, but still got 50K and paid for the wedding.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:25 PM EDT reply actions

In a sharp reversal of opinion, I think Paul Byrd’s career is over.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions

Uh yeah, start tilting my 42 HR projection upwards a bit

by jhon on Jun 22, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions

Mulligan?

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions

over/under on the # of outs Byrd records: 9

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions

under

by Fundamentals on Jun 22, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions

under

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions

under. I say 4 outs

by jhon on Jun 22, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions

1 down, 8 to go

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions

2 … 7

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions

z

Anybody seeing this shot of Mujica warming up in some damn rainforest?

Oh also, Mujica is Spanish for “white flag.”

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by Fire Slider on Jun 22, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions

I believe it’s Indonesian for “white flag”

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions

No, that’s the ironic part, it’s fucking Spanish, would you believe that?

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by Fire Slider on Jun 22, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Paul Byrd has the lowest run support in the AL.

Haaaaaahahahah

Scully just said “Moo-He-Haww”

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:27 PM EDT reply actions

Byrd also not getting any calls.

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 4:27 PM EDT reply actions

Way to jinx the Dodgers.

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by Fire Slider on Jun 22, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU5tzr5FKac

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 4:27 PM EDT reply actions

Is it wrong that when they mentioned Mujica was up, I thought to myself, “If he wears himself out, maybe they call up Stevens to take his spot while his arm recovers…”?

by Fundamentals on Jun 22, 2008 4:28 PM EDT reply actions

I wouldn’t be so jazzed. Two years ago Mujica was Stevens.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Watching CC HR on loop.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:29 PM EDT reply actions

Vince Scully makes $3M per season?

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 4:29 PM EDT reply actions

Sigh. I wish I was folksy and marketable.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions

and does not travel E of the Mississippi.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions

When Angel F**g Berroa is smoking you, its time to retire.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 4:29 PM EDT reply actions

Gameday is lying to me. It says Byrd has thrown a few 89mph pitches.

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 4:31 PM EDT reply actions

Spain’s offense is timid

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 4:31 PM EDT reply actions

If Villa would attack instead of diving, they would have a chance at a goal

by Roger Dorn on Jun 22, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Extra time is entertaining, like, twice a year. Not 27 times in 3 days, though.

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by Fire Slider on Jun 22, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Our starting rotation has definitely developed an ass end.

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply actions

Is it just me, or has Casey Blake’s defense dropped off even more over the past week or so? In the game that Sowers started in Colorado, I thought there were about 3 or 4 plays that Blake would have normally made and missed. That last play was a stretch, but he still should have gotten it, IMO.

by Fundamentals on Jun 22, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply actions

yea, that one game where him and Jhonny missed 4 or 5 apiece?

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions

Thursday.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions

THREE OUTS!

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply actions

That’s a hit? Really?

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply actions

You’re looking for an E?

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by Fire Slider on Jun 22, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions

MOST PREDICTABLE DOUBLE PLAY BALL FOR ONE OUT TO END AN INNING EVER.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply actions

OK, making a rally wrap. GO OFFENSE.

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply actions

what’s going on…i’m frozen on Angel Berroa’s AB

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 4:34 PM EDT reply actions

Indians back up to bat.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Berroa its one in the hole between 3B and SS, Blake doesn’t glove it cleanly, it’s called a hit, next batter grounds out to 2B.

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions

I have the season divided like this: Indians must with Sabathia and Lee starts. Indians hopefully win Laffey starts. Indians need to try and win one of Byrd/Sowers’ starts.

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions

One win from Byrdowers over the course of the rest of the season? That’s going to be tough.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions

that was a dangerous corner

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions

Casey Blake’s kid is going to be a wicked athlete.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions

he’s also going to be one of those 4th graders sporting a mini-stache

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

He’ll probably be managed at the AA level by Eric Wedge’s son. For 8 years.

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

The opposition with neutralize him by lulling him to sleep with Vince Scully recordings.

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions

Good AB, Casey. Seriously.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions

Scully lets me know that Casey got out in his 3rd grade spelling bee on the word Jeopardy. Seriously.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions

I don’t mind his voice, but I don’t understand why EVERY second must be filled with speech. Some silence is ok.

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions

The Rockies announcers used this one earlier in the week. So either it’s in the media guide, or Casey’s telling everyone. Either way, not good.

by supermarioelia on Jun 22, 2008 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions

checked the pages of the media guide that I DL’d a month or so ago … didn’t see it.

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions

Looch… lord.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply actions

Trivia:

How many career HRs does Dellucci have?

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply actions

One. Off of Justin Chamberlain.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions

You’ve already forgotten about the HR against Detroit last year?

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions

666

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions

97, if anyone cares.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions

that really sucks for as long as he’s been around. And like 40 of them were in 1 year.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions

Dellucci could hit his 100th homerun in the same year Paul Byrd wins his 100th game. Now that’s just too special a season not to celebrate.

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions

I dunno. He’s got 97 in 1026 games. That’s only 6.3 seasons. 15 HRs a season.

Probably low for the era. And he did have 29 one year.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Great stuff from Spain there.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:42 PM EDT reply actions

agreed

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions

Wow, Silva has had so many good looks for Spain

by Roger Dorn on Jun 22, 2008 4:42 PM EDT reply actions

Carlos?

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions

I wish I had some video of Eric Wedge hitting a HR.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions

Is that… surely not… I think it is! A ‘stache!

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by Fire Slider on Jun 22, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Is Scully seriously still talking about Shoppach’s HS football career? He just detailed exactly how Kelly scored 4 TDs in a game.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:44 PM EDT reply actions

Is this on radio or TV?

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by Fire Slider on Jun 22, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions

TV.

I assume that’s Vin Scully.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Ah. He does some of both. I wish I had the scratch for MLB video, but I’m in-market for the summer, so it makes no sense.

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by Fire Slider on Jun 22, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions

That’s 2007 Shoppach.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:44 PM EDT reply actions

Is it wrong to debate pinch-hitting here?

by Fundamentals on Jun 22, 2008 4:44 PM EDT reply actions

no

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah we probably should have.

But the LA feed did show us the authentic Paul Byrd bat.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions

i’m sensing bad things for spain here

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 4:45 PM EDT reply actions

Is that really the at-bat the anti-DH “baseball purists” envision being worthwhile?

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 4:47 PM EDT reply actions

I sort of like the symmetry.

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by Fire Slider on Jun 22, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions

A lot of batters strike out helplessly flailing at Byrd offerings, so Byrd should reciprocate?

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Man could take the pitches, if he wanted to. I just sort of like the idea of batting the same players you field. Happy with the DH, but admire the NL approach equally.

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by Fire Slider on Jun 22, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions

Scully co-oping Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner for a stay hydrated message.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:49 PM EDT reply actions

Maybe we shouldn’t have used Elarton yesterday…

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:49 PM EDT reply actions

i’m sure he’s still available today

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions

This Boca Burger is the dopeness.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:50 PM EDT reply actions

Hey, Juan Pierre’s still giving away outs! Great!

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply actions

Scully says Byrd is reminding him of a bird getting ready to take off with that windup.

Uhh. Ok.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply actions

I hear watching Catfish Hunter pitch reminded him of a catfish hunting

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions

Watching soccer fans smoke cigarettes in the stands.

Awesome.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:52 PM EDT reply actions

I also enjoy them singing some song to the tune of Seven Nation Army

by Roger Dorn on Jun 22, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions

STOMP STOMP

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:52 PM EDT reply actions

“Grady’s dad, an African American, is an insurance adjuster.”

Thanks, Vince. WHAT?

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 4:55 PM EDT reply actions

oh wow

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions

I preferred the line that followed, “Looking at the AL extra base hit leaders over the last few years you’ll see some of the usual names: David Ortiz, Manny Ramirez, and then oops, Grady Sizemore!”

Uhh. Do you watch baseball much?

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions

“i hear they let them vote these days”

/sarc

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions

i hope this game doesn’t go to penalty kicks

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 4:57 PM EDT reply actions

so Jamey Carroll’s been a smart acquisition, huh?

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 4:58 PM EDT reply actions

Yeah. He’s the only utility IF we’ve ever succeeded with.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Sean Smith is pitching decently in Colorado Springs, but nothing to get overly excited about

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Good use of organizational depth.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions

Carroll’s 2009 contract is nice ($2.5M club option)

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions

ha cha!

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 4:58 PM EDT reply actions

I will be pissed if we don’t get >/= 2 here.

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 4:59 PM EDT reply actions

Beau Mills went yard today.

Alright, run.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:00 PM EDT reply actions

so’d Joe g’Dirt

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Boooo. Yanks win, Boston’s winning, and TB lost.

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 5:00 PM EDT reply actions

If Weglarz goes 1-4 with a single and a walk one more time…

Ugh.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:00 PM EDT reply actions

KC hit Lincecum hard today. His first bad outing?

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 5:01 PM EDT reply actions

Scully just called Peralta “John.”

Ruling?

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:01 PM EDT reply actions

I know this is an inning late, but I just want to say I hate National League baseball. Shoppach gets a double so we have men on 2nd and 3rd with two outs….but the pitcher is up. End of the inning. I hate having an automatic out (CC notwithstanding).

I know people talk about the so-called “strategy” required by the manager in the NL, but I don’t see how pretty much automatically bunting with the pitcher (unless there is two outs) amounts to much strategy. It’s just a black hole in the lineup.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 22, 2008 5:01 PM EDT reply actions

A black hole of purity

by Fios on Jun 22, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions

I remember the Indians were linked to Billingsley in the 2003 draft because they had two first-round picks and a supplemental pick, and Bilingsley was an Ohio kid.

They went with Michael Aubrey, who’d been a stud at Tulane, and Brad Snyder, who was all kinds of athletic at Ball State.

Damn.

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 5:03 PM EDT reply actions

Oh The supplemental pick was used on Adam Miller. There’s still hope.

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Nice comeback by Jhonny there.

by peter m on Jun 22, 2008 5:03 PM EDT reply actions

Billingsley’s throwing a lot of pitches. this looks kind of like 2007 Tribe

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions

Lord, 55 pitches for Chad already.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions

yayyyyyyy

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions

Garko!

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions

Got your 2.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Or Westbrook did.

Whoever said that.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions

I said that. 4 a possibility with that WP/PB.

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions

The color guy in this football match has been angry the entire match. I think he’s constipated.

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions

Yeah. He was livid at the ref in the first 20 minutes.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions

He’s livid every match. He used to play and back then men were men and the usual.

Proud supporter of the Cleveland.

by Brad D on Jun 22, 2008 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Good time Machine

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions

Do I hear three?

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 5:06 PM EDT reply actions

STO just showed the Trevor Crowe went 4 for 8 in a doubleheader with a home run. I haven’t heard much about him this year—is he still considered much of a prospect? Or have we given up hope on him?

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 22, 2008 5:06 PM EDT reply actions

You can have my hope. I’ve given it up.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions

All of the above, from what I can tell.

by peter m on Jun 22, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions

he’s currently on a rampage, and behind only Hodges in terms of Akron regulars in OPS (~.810)

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions

answering your question, the love for him seems to have receded somewhat…but will probably return to a degree. he was one of those weird guys who was incredible well regarded without ever having produced much above A-ball

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions

scout hype.

NEXT TY COBB!

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Here’s a quiz for you Adam.

Is there any reason for us to not be more excited about Stephen Head than Trevor Crowe?

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Head actually was highly regarded as a hitter coming out of college. Nice to see him hitting a bit.

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions

Stephen Head’s a fringe sleeper kind of guy. He’s never put up what you would consider “good” numbers, despite regularly having decent peripheral numbers. At this point he’s kind of old, but maybe he’s finally turning his peripherals into performance. It’d be nice to see more power, though.

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions

He’s younger than Crowe.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions

that says more about Crowe than Head

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Maybe Head can pull a Kouzmanoff impression.

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions

He needs to add about 200 points of OPS.

But let’s hope.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions

Kouzmanoff’s “rise” was mostly batting average related with a Marcus Thames spurt of power that has since gone away.

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions

he hasn’t been terrible in San Diego. In a pitcher friendly park he’s put up an ISO right around .180, which isn’t terrible. I don’t think anyone thought he’d maintain his ridiculous .650 SLG% from 2006

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions

He has “tools,” but he was even considered a stretch to be drafted as high as he was by the Indians. He’s not playing CF. He’s not stealing many bases. He’s still drawing walks. Maybe he’ll carve out a career as a 4th outfielder. Probably fits in the NL.

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions

That’s a great Casey Blake story. Scully redeems himself.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply actions

Casey was playing first when he first came up and was holding Robbie Alomar on. Blake had never really played first. Alomar leans over and says “Kid, you don’t have to hold me on. There’s a runner on second.” Blake looks at dugout, all of his MIN teammates are falling over themselves laughing.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Ha ha. Thanks for passing it along.

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions

seems strange for Robbie to say that. Let him keep the hole open.

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions

I like the story because it makes it clear, again, that Robbie Alomar rules.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions

yes he does.

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions

summary?

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions

I smell a tie.

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply actions

THREE

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 5:09 PM EDT reply actions

who brought the bottle of vintage good Blake

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:10 PM EDT reply actions

Good baserunning out of Garko.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:10 PM EDT reply actions

LOOCH REACHES BASE!

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 5:10 PM EDT reply actions

I’ll take it!

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions

don’t worry, I’m’ sure he’ll issue an apology after the game

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions

I had hopes when I saw this time machine that him reaching base also meant a run scored.

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Didn’t see it But, maybe it was his throwing arm?

by peter m on Jun 22, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions

yea right. Looch doesn’t get hits.

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions

GIMME THE LOOCH

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply actions

Another double would be fantastic here, Kelly.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 22, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply actions

stupid penalty kicks

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply actions

prediction: walk for Shoppach, Byrd Ks on 3 pitches

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:12 PM EDT reply actions

Kelly didn’t get the memo.

by peter m on Jun 22, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions

What is wrong with Billingsley’s shirt?

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:13 PM EDT reply actions

According to Scully he’s falling out of it. Very interesting phrasing.

The batter swings and the summer flies...

by cclemens31 on Jun 22, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Rats.

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 5:13 PM EDT reply actions

He can take some awesomely ugly swings.

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Why is Billingsley even pitching to him with Byrd on deck?

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 5:13 PM EDT reply actions

damn

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:14 PM EDT reply actions

73 pitches for Billingsley, though

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:14 PM EDT reply actions

How many for Byrd? He often gets pulled with a relatively low pitch count (properly, I might add).

by peter m on Jun 22, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions

36 thru 2

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions

So, likely a 5 inning start. Bullpen war, coming up!

by peter m on Jun 22, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m going to assume Kelly’s chasing because he knows he has to get a hit. So he’s trying to foul it off and keep the AB going?

He just missed that one down the line.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:15 PM EDT reply actions

makes sense

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Shoppach did the right thing by swinging at the 3-1. I think the 3-2 was a strike. It’s a tough spot in which to hit, ‘cause Shoppach, not a contact hitter, has to expand his zone knowing the pitcher is next.

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions

Has every PK gone lower left?

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:17 PM EDT reply actions

What a save there

by Roger Dorn on Jun 22, 2008 5:17 PM EDT reply actions

Holy ish. What a save.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:17 PM EDT reply actions

great save

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:17 PM EDT reply actions

made that one look easy

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:18 PM EDT reply actions

Is Paul Byrd useless or not?

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:19 PM EDT reply actions

he’s beginning to look useful. he’s only thrown 7 balls in 3 innings

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions

As a goalie, yes. As a pitcher, no.

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions

Hockey puck story alert.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:19 PM EDT reply actions

Bad kick.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:20 PM EDT reply actions

To whoever fixed whatever was wrong with Byrd today, thanks!

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 5:20 PM EDT reply actions

Italy…choke

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply actions

For reals. 2 misses? Yikes.

I once had to wake at 6:30 to have a PK shootout because light had gone out the night before. It was in some state cup tournament or something.

I kicked it over the goal.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions

the last time I played organized soccer I was about 8. I was in goal and attempted a drop-kick. What I actually did was kick the ball straight over my head and into my own goal.

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Same place as the one Spain missed. That’s a lousy spot for a PK.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply actions

who let the 12-year old kick the game-winner?

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply actions

Spain hadn’t beaten Italy since 1920 in a major tournament

by Roger Dorn on Jun 22, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply actions

Reminds me of that NFL films shot of Steve Young having the monkey ripped off his back.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions

i’m happy, though. I don’t like Italy. Now that Croatia and the Netherlands are out, maybe I’ll root for Spain.

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions

The tournament has gotten way less sexy in the last few days.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions

i really liked those two sides. of the remaining, I think Russia’s played the best, but i’m contractually obliged to not root for them. Turkey’s been lucky and now only has like half a squad for their match with Germany. Germans are scary. So I think I’ll root for spain (despite producing a really boring match today).

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions

I have to root for Turkey after their last two games. I love seeing teams that won’t give up like that

by Roger Dorn on Jun 22, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions

if i thought they had any chance at all, i’d root for Turkey

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions

Do you not root for Russia because you are contractually an American?

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions

no….because I work in and have spent extensive time in Georgia

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t know what they did with Paul Byrd after the first inning, but I like the guy they found to replace him. Let’s keep him in our rotation for the rest of the year.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 22, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply actions

insert resurrection joke here

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions

z

Carroll has definitely been stepping up.

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 5:28 PM EDT reply actions

He just needed us to stop jerking him around with PT

by Roger Dorn on Jun 22, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Good stuff cartoon frog #2.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:28 PM EDT reply actions

Hmm. I did not know that, Scully.

Choo pitched in Korea. And was clocked at 95.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:30 PM EDT reply actions

And he once pitched 44 innings in 5 games in 7 days. Hence, Tommy John.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions

Good lord. I’d say so.

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes, but the pride he brought to his country and family name will never be erased.

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Was Dusty Baker his manager?

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 22, 2008 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions

I’ve always wondered what at Jamey Carroll homerun looks like.

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 5:30 PM EDT reply actions

That Jason Tyner one wasn’t enough for you?

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Billingsley has at most another inning in him

by Roger Dorn on Jun 22, 2008 5:31 PM EDT reply actions

so if we win and the Sox lose we’re back to 5.5 out, huh?

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 5:32 PM EDT reply actions

Choo is sort of an inverted Ben Francisco. He hits most of his balls in play to the outfield to left and center; Francisco is a dead pull hitter, at least from what I’ve seen. Interesting how opposite they are in their approach.

by peter m on Jun 22, 2008 5:34 PM EDT reply actions

Web Gem!

by Fundamentals on Jun 22, 2008 5:36 PM EDT reply actions

HIRE CYBORG PAUL BYRD SIMULACRUM

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 5:36 PM EDT reply actions

J Money

by Roger Dorn on Jun 22, 2008 5:38 PM EDT reply actions

That almost snuck out of there

by Roger Dorn on Jun 22, 2008 5:41 PM EDT reply actions

“A short name like Garko, doesn’t that sound like power? I dunno-Garko!”

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:42 PM EDT reply actions

Are you f ing serious Skinner?

by Roger Dorn on Jun 22, 2008 5:45 PM EDT reply actions

THANKS SKINNER

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 5:45 PM EDT reply actions

My god is Skinner awful at those calls

by Fios on Jun 22, 2008 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions

WAY TO GO JOEL

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 5:45 PM EDT reply actions

Joel Skinner really should lose his job. Seriously, he’s that bad.

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 5:45 PM EDT reply actions

I don’t think Peralta was even in the picture yet when the catcher caught that. Jesus.

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 5:45 PM EDT reply actions

Joel Skinner, ladies and gentlemen.

by JesseAK on Jun 22, 2008 5:46 PM EDT reply actions

Peralta was touching third as Maza caught the relay.

by JesseAK on Jun 22, 2008 5:46 PM EDT reply actions

Good lord. Seriously?

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:48 PM EDT reply actions

Uhhh, someone better re-program Cyborg Paul Byrd Simulacrum in a hurry.

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 5:50 PM EDT reply actions

Nickle and dime.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:50 PM EDT reply actions

2008 is the year of the bloop and infield single

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 5:51 PM EDT reply actions

Bunting with Kemp in this situation is just bad baseball.

I'll regress to my career numbers if you do too!

by Fire Slider on Jun 22, 2008 5:51 PM EDT reply actions

Me gusta el DP.

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 5:53 PM EDT reply actions

Peralta stayed with it for the DP

by Roger Dorn on Jun 22, 2008 5:53 PM EDT reply actions

Just like they drew it up.

by Fundamentals on Jun 22, 2008 5:53 PM EDT reply actions

”...And they complete the double play, just what Byrd was looking for.”

Absurd, guys.

I'll regress to my career numbers if you do too!

by Fire Slider on Jun 22, 2008 5:54 PM EDT reply actions

Did he drop that or catch it on a hop?

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:54 PM EDT reply actions

Bizarre hop.

I'll regress to my career numbers if you do too!

by Fire Slider on Jun 22, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Wait, I’m wrong maybe.

I'll regress to my career numbers if you do too!

by Fire Slider on Jun 22, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions

The hardest hit ball of the inning results in two outs.

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 5:54 PM EDT reply actions

Dellucci scares the crap out of me out there

by Roger Dorn on Jun 22, 2008 5:55 PM EDT reply actions

Phew.

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 5:55 PM EDT reply actions

As long as you catch it looch, I dont care what it looks like.

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 5:55 PM EDT reply actions

Whew.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 5:56 PM EDT reply actions

Shop sure can toss that bat.

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 5:59 PM EDT reply actions

Byrd? really?

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 6:01 PM EDT reply actions

After that first inning, who would have thought that Byrd would be hitting in the sixth?

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 22, 2008 6:02 PM EDT reply actions

I don’t even think he should be hitting in the sixth.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions

yeah, I was thinking that too.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 22, 2008 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Scully is obsessed with the “Paul Byrd bat” joke.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 6:03 PM EDT reply actions

Um, Hammy?

by Voltaire on Jun 22, 2008 6:03 PM EDT reply actions

his international cluelessness?

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions

enlighten us

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Well, he did a lot of stereotyping.

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions

two more hammy gems:
“The indians are a healthy bunch, not counting the guys on the DL”
“Brian DeWitt”

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 6:07 PM EDT reply actions

Red Sox have the bases loaded with one out in the bottom of the 11th.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 22, 2008 6:08 PM EDT reply actions

On TBS.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 22, 2008 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions

And Isringhausen got out of it with 2 strikeouts. On to the 12th . . .

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 22, 2008 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions

JAMEY!

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by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 6:09 PM EDT reply actions

Off the bench, and one pitch it is for Francisco.

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 6:15 PM EDT reply actions

Bring Jhonny home!

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 6:17 PM EDT reply actions

unless he obviously shouldn’t be sent from third

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions

Why didn’t skinner try and get Peralta to come to third?

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 6:18 PM EDT reply actions

Blah.

Man, if we drop this game by 1 run …

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 6:19 PM EDT reply actions

Oh hey, it’s almost PURE MICHIGAN commercial time!

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 6:20 PM EDT reply actions

just checked back – Byrd 75 pitches in 6 innings / 15 per sounds pretty good

by palcal on Jun 22, 2008 6:21 PM EDT reply actions

Wish we’d score a run.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 6:27 PM EDT reply actions

Or six.

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions

I just caught up on DVR. Anyone catch the STO explanation of why Skinner sent Jhonny?

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jun 22, 2008 6:30 PM EDT reply actions

I haven’t heard any explanation.

I can’t imagine there’s a good one.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions

So get this. They said that Skinner must have been thinking that if he didn’t send Jhonny, there’d be 2d and 3d with Shop coming up, and they’d walk Shop to pitch to Byrd. They really think Skinner was thinking that far ahead. Thoughts?!

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jun 22, 2008 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions

Uhh.

Ridiculous.

Shouldn’t he be making the decision based on, you know, whether or not the runner can beat the ball to home plate?

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Or based on the fact that the relay man was holding the ball as Jhonny touched 3rd?

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jun 22, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions

Wedge just backed that decision up in almost exactly those words.

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions

A very sick sense of humor.

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions

I’d love to hear one, cos it’s starting to loom awfully large over this game. >:|

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Vin Scully says when Ethier had to go down on a knee to stop the ball in the corner, it was assumed Peralta would score. But Ethier made a strong throw to the cutoff man (Luis Maza) and Maza made a great relay to Martin. I don’t blame Skinner as much as Garko (strike out) and Blakde (fly out to left) doing nothing to advance the runner.

by odradek on Jun 22, 2008 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions

No chance in hell. That was all Skinner.

by supermarioelia on Jun 22, 2008 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Sigh.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 6:32 PM EDT reply actions

The appealing thing about Perez is that he still makes batters look so stupid.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 6:40 PM EDT reply actions

Pierre was out!!

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jun 22, 2008 6:41 PM EDT reply actions

On the replay it looks like Carroll tagged him before his hand was on the bad. He’s out.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 22, 2008 6:41 PM EDT reply actions

*bag

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 22, 2008 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions

*Peralta

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions

oh yeah, that too

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 22, 2008 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions

Just caught up with the game thread. Screw you guys for hating on Italy.

And with all of these great advanced metrics floating around, all I want is a metric to tell me objectively whether Joel Skinner is as bad as I subjectively feel he is.

by supermarioelia on Jun 22, 2008 6:41 PM EDT reply actions

Sigh.

Incredible throw by Shoppach.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 6:41 PM EDT reply actions

threw it to the wrong side of the bag. he’s thrown out just 2 of 15 this season.

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions

Maybe I meant “incredible arm strength by Shoppach.”

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions

might not have been a great throw, but he was out.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jun 22, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions

safe?

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 6:42 PM EDT reply actions

no way

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 22, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions

<hands over eyes>

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 6:42 PM EDT reply actions

Pierre was so out it’s not funny.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jun 22, 2008 6:43 PM EDT reply actions

Francisco is such a POS in the field.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 6:43 PM EDT reply actions

did he have a chance on that?

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions

a chance to let it get between his legs. he played it ok

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jun 22, 2008 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions

Looks like he started back. If he didn’t have a chance it’s because he’s slow.

I mean, it was almost caught anyway, right?

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions

the ball dropped a couple feet in front of him, I don’t think he could have caught that.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 22, 2008 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions

I offer Francisco no quarter. He’s as bad as Dellucci in the field.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions

more bloop hits.

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 6:43 PM EDT reply actions

Indians have now skyrocketed to 10 runs for the season in exta innings, but
are still stuck at 10 runs for the season in the 9th inning.

While they are in LA, they need to rectify this second problem as well.

by palcal on Jun 22, 2008 6:45 PM EDT reply actions

Youo’ve gotta change your screenname to Ap. That would be so cool.

by supermarioelia on Jun 22, 2008 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Associated Press?

by jhon on Jun 22, 2008 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions

K

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 6:45 PM EDT reply actions

z

Come on, Perez. Keep it where it’s at.

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 6:46 PM EDT reply actions

Astro now 2-2 today.

His average is now .404.

I know he should be wlaking but sheesh. How’s he supposed to take pitches when it’s so easy to hit them?

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 6:47 PM EDT reply actions

Thanks, Raffy!

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 6:47 PM EDT reply actions

Raffey Steel.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 6:48 PM EDT reply actions

nice job raffy!

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 22, 2008 6:48 PM EDT reply actions

Let’s go. I want this sweep so bad!

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jun 22, 2008 6:48 PM EDT reply actions

So how good is Saito?

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 6:49 PM EDT reply actions

We got to him Friday.

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by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Better than JoeBo

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jun 22, 2008 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Talk about damning someone with faint praise!

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 22, 2008 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Top 3 closer in the NL.

by xrickx on Jun 22, 2008 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Youkolis just hit a walk-off HR for the Red Sox in the 13th.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 22, 2008 6:49 PM EDT reply actions

Boo!

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jun 22, 2008 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions

who do we have coming up? Gutierrez, Sizemore, Carroll?

by APV on Jun 22, 2008 6:49 PM EDT reply actions

WATER can flood our minds with memories.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 6:49 PM EDT reply actions

...not to mention water.

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2008: let the hate flow through you.

by vbc3 on Jun 22, 2008 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions

LGGS!

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 22, 2008 6:52 PM EDT reply actions

I think Gutz might be lousy.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 6:52 PM EDT reply actions

Naw. His one at bat comes against the closer. Look at how Grady fared. He’s had a rough season, but he ain’t a lousy hitter.

by jhon on Jun 22, 2008 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions

But Gutz looks like that all the time.

by afh4 on Jun 22, 2008 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m just resigned to Gutz having an off year with the bat. Consider him a good 4th OF’er for the moment. Eventually it will click for him. I am so irrationally confident in this.

by jhon on Jun 22, 2008 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions