Game Thread: June 22, 2008
Cleveland Indians @ Los Angeles Dodgers
Cleveland at Los Angeles, 4:10 PM (STO)
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Choo bats third, Jhonny fourth, Garko fifth. Dellucci, not Ben Fran in left. And, of course, no Marte.
by peter m on
Jun 22, 2008 3:31 PM EDT
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I guess I should put on pants for game time…
by afh4 on
Jun 22, 2008 3:47 PM EDT
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I was thinking about taking them off.
Miserable, couch potato-ish Sunday in Cleveland. Sun gave way to storms gave way to Ohio gray.
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by Fire Slider on
Jun 22, 2008 4:01 PM EDT
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Any predictions about Byrd’s outing this afternoon? No way he gets shelled again, right?
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by Fire Slider on
Jun 22, 2008 4:02 PM EDT
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This is one of those games that I really don’t have a good feeling about.
by Fundamentals on
Jun 22, 2008 4:04 PM EDT
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he was on a 1 good-1 bad game regimen for awhile. that ended with his last start, which should have been good, but was bad.
by APV on
Jun 22, 2008 4:05 PM EDT
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High-level analysis, and I like it.
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by Fire Slider on
Jun 22, 2008 4:16 PM EDT
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that’s why i get the big bucks and the ladies
by APV on
Jun 22, 2008 4:16 PM EDT
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Rocked.
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by vbc3 on
Jun 22, 2008 4:04 PM EDT
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I’ll be contrarian. I think he’ll be fine. I get the impression the Dodgers like to put the ball in play pretty early and that helps Byrd, I think.
He’s not that damn bad. He’ll find a way to finish the season with an ERA under 5. And that means he has some good starts coming.
by afh4 on
Jun 22, 2008 4:08 PM EDT
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I’m thinking because this Dodgers lineup isn’t stellar, Byrd gives up no more than 5 runs. 6 IP should be reached.
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 4:09 PM EDT
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my vote for Byrd: no confidence (disclaimer: I have been wrong more times than right in regards to Byrd)
by APV on
Jun 22, 2008 4:10 PM EDT
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Doing some maths here:
Byrd is on pace to pitch 172 Innings in 31 starts, giving up 42 HR! 42!
by jhon on
Jun 22, 2008 4:15 PM EDT
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42 homers, holy shoot. Isn’t Vic Martinez on pace for that many, too?
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by Fire Slider on
Jun 22, 2008 4:19 PM EDT
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Something like that. Eric Milton allorwed 42 in ‘04 in 201 IP. I think more Home Runs were hit in that season, and his home field was a bandbox
by jhon on
Jun 22, 2008 4:22 PM EDT
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Hopefully the Dodgers take their cuts and hit ‘em “too high”, where he only gives up two or three solo HRs through 6 IP.
by jhon on
Jun 22, 2008 4:09 PM EDT
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(Whispers) Do the maathh.
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 4:16 PM EDT
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this should be under your 42 homer projection.
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 4:16 PM EDT
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Yeah let’s see what he can do.
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by Fire Slider on
Jun 22, 2008 4:20 PM EDT
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I kind of like us against Billingsley. Is that crazy?
by afh4 on
Jun 22, 2008 4:08 PM EDT
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i’ve found this match the most boring so far of an otherwise thrilling (and very surprising) set of quarter-final matches. both these teams look slow.
by APV on
Jun 22, 2008 4:10 PM EDT
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Well Fabregas is on now. We’ll see if that helps.
You don’t buy my theory that the Indians are getting super aggressive with KDLC?
by afh4 on
Jun 22, 2008 4:10 PM EDT
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I’d be kind of happy if they were…but that doesn’t seem to be their style
by APV on
Jun 22, 2008 4:11 PM EDT
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Why wouldn’t they just take the guy from Kinston in that rotation slot and spot start him?
by afh4 on
Jun 22, 2008 4:13 PM EDT
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they move people around in strange ways to make spot starts now and then. a few weeks back they had Josh Tomlin, who hasn’t pitched above Kinston and has mainly pitched out of the pen, make a spot start in Buffalo. i assume it just has to do with availability and convenience to some degree
by APV on
Jun 22, 2008 4:15 PM EDT
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Hmm.
You know better than I. It just seems like a weird thing to do with one of our few A+++++++++++++++ prospects.
If he’d gone 7 scoreless would he be staying?
by afh4 on
Jun 22, 2008 4:16 PM EDT
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who knows…everything I’ve got is conjecture. i haven’t found any quotes about the start from any front office people.
by APV on
Jun 22, 2008 4:18 PM EDT
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It’s frustrating there’s not just a press release.
Wyatt Toreagas is hitting a little!
by afh4 on
Jun 22, 2008 4:19 PM EDT
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Do Europeans act like this when they’re actually getting in fights? Like patting each other on the cheeks, smiling?
by afh4 on
Jun 22, 2008 4:14 PM EDT
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Actually, yes. That is the usual precursor to a fight in the league in which I play. It’s very bizarre and I hate having other men touching my face. Which may be why they do it.
Proud supporter of the Cleveland.
by fwembt on
Jun 22, 2008 11:45 PM EDT
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Ouch.
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by vbc3 on
Jun 22, 2008 4:14 PM EDT
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Choo Soup
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 4:14 PM EDT
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This is where we’re at guys. Shin-Soo Choo is our best position player.
by afh4 on
Jun 22, 2008 4:15 PM EDT
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On the soccer tip again, anybody see this bootleg feed on the USA-Barbados game?
by afh4 on
Jun 22, 2008 4:17 PM EDT
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Hammy: “[Byrd] is not gonna have a chance to face Milwaukee this year… at least not withthe Indians”
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 4:18 PM EDT
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one of two teams he has never beaten?
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 4:20 PM EDT
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I like Hamilton but if anyone occasionally deserves to get Milton Bradleyed, it might be him.
by afh4 on
Jun 22, 2008 4:20 PM EDT
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So… Byrd should storm up to the booth after the game and demand an apology that he doesn’t deserve then go back to the clubhouse and start weeping about being misunderstood?
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by Fire Slider on
Jun 22, 2008 4:23 PM EDT
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Byrd … umm…
SUCKS
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 4:19 PM EDT
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Aaaand we’re off.
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by vbc3 on
Jun 22, 2008 4:19 PM EDT
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Well, that answers the Byrd question.
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by Fire Slider on
Jun 22, 2008 4:19 PM EDT
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sell sell sell
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 4:21 PM EDT
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Yeah, I think Byrd is in a situation similar to what Wickman was in with us in ‘06. Hopefully there will be a Max Ramirez at the other end of this,...
by jhon on
Jun 22, 2008 4:25 PM EDT
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Huzzah.
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by vbc3 on
Jun 22, 2008 4:21 PM EDT
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I wonder if there’s a Dodgers game thread…
See you guys later.
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by Fire Slider on
Jun 22, 2008 4:21 PM EDT
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Anybody getting this Vin Scully story about Byrd’s dad waking him up to play baseball?
by afh4 on
Jun 22, 2008 4:21 PM EDT
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Maybe it’s just because I didn’t grow up listening to him, but I’m not gung-ho about Vince Scully the way everyone else seems to be.
by xrickx on
Jun 22, 2008 4:22 PM EDT
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Yeah me either. He’s just a goofy old man to me.
by afh4 on
Jun 22, 2008 4:23 PM EDT
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Summarize it for us?
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by Fire Slider on
Jun 22, 2008 4:23 PM EDT
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Pretty much that’s it. His dad retired from being a police officer to play more ball with young Paul.
by afh4 on
Jun 22, 2008 4:24 PM EDT
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I sure hope our offense makes some noise this afternoon or this could be a really long game.
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by vbc3 on
Jun 22, 2008 4:22 PM EDT
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Yea, on paper this is a massacre. It’s not looking good in reality. Everything Byrd is throwing is up, up, and up.
by xrickx on
Jun 22, 2008 4:23 PM EDT
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Paul Byrd’s mom was a director of finance, according to Scully.
by afh4 on
Jun 22, 2008 4:23 PM EDT
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For whom? The hit factory?
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by Fire Slider on
Jun 22, 2008 4:24 PM EDT
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the Eliminate WHIP Consortium
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 4:25 PM EDT
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OH SHIT
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 4:25 PM EDT
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Poor Paul.
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by Fire Slider on
Jun 22, 2008 4:25 PM EDT
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Good lord, Scully has endless Paul Byrd stories.
Byrd’s father-in-law, right before Byrd’s wedding, was involved in a contest in the world cup where he had make a goal to win a million. He missed, but still got 50K and paid for the wedding.
by afh4 on
Jun 22, 2008 4:25 PM EDT
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In a sharp reversal of opinion, I think Paul Byrd’s career is over.
by afh4 on
Jun 22, 2008 4:26 PM EDT
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Uh yeah, start tilting my 42 HR projection upwards a bit
by jhon on
Jun 22, 2008 4:26 PM EDT
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under
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 4:27 PM EDT
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2 … 7
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 4:28 PM EDT
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Anybody seeing this shot of Mujica warming up in some damn rainforest?
Oh also, Mujica is Spanish for “white flag.”
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by Fire Slider on
Jun 22, 2008 4:26 PM EDT
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I believe it’s Indonesian for “white flag”
by APV on
Jun 22, 2008 4:27 PM EDT
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No, that’s the ironic part, it’s fucking Spanish, would you believe that?
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by Fire Slider on
Jun 22, 2008 4:28 PM EDT
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Paul Byrd has the lowest run support in the AL.
Haaaaaahahahah
Scully just said “Moo-He-Haww”
by afh4 on
Jun 22, 2008 4:27 PM EDT
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Way to jinx the Dodgers.
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by Fire Slider on
Jun 22, 2008 4:30 PM EDT
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU5tzr5FKac
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 4:27 PM EDT
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Is it wrong that when they mentioned Mujica was up, I thought to myself, “If he wears himself out, maybe they call up Stevens to take his spot while his arm recovers…”?
by Fundamentals on
Jun 22, 2008 4:28 PM EDT
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I wouldn’t be so jazzed. Two years ago Mujica was Stevens.
by afh4 on
Jun 22, 2008 4:29 PM EDT
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Sigh. I wish I was folksy and marketable.
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Jun 22, 2008 4:29 PM EDT
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and does not travel E of the Mississippi.
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 4:31 PM EDT
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When Angel F**g Berroa is smoking you, its time to retire.
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 4:29 PM EDT
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Gameday is lying to me. It says Byrd has thrown a few 89mph pitches.
by APV on
Jun 22, 2008 4:31 PM EDT
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If Villa would attack instead of diving, they would have a chance at a goal
by Roger Dorn on
Jun 22, 2008 4:32 PM EDT
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Extra time is entertaining, like, twice a year. Not 27 times in 3 days, though.
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by Fire Slider on
Jun 22, 2008 4:32 PM EDT
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Our starting rotation has definitely developed an ass end.
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Jun 22, 2008 4:32 PM EDT
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Is it just me, or has Casey Blake’s defense dropped off even more over the past week or so? In the game that Sowers started in Colorado, I thought there were about 3 or 4 plays that Blake would have normally made and missed. That last play was a stretch, but he still should have gotten it, IMO.
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Jun 22, 2008 4:32 PM EDT
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yea, that one game where him and Jhonny missed 4 or 5 apiece?
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 4:34 PM EDT
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Thursday.
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 4:35 PM EDT
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THREE OUTS!
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 4:32 PM EDT
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You’re looking for an E?
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by Fire Slider on
Jun 22, 2008 4:33 PM EDT
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MOST PREDICTABLE DOUBLE PLAY BALL FOR ONE OUT TO END AN INNING EVER.
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Jun 22, 2008 4:33 PM EDT
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OK, making a rally wrap. GO OFFENSE.
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Jun 22, 2008 4:33 PM EDT
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what’s going on…i’m frozen on Angel Berroa’s AB
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Jun 22, 2008 4:34 PM EDT
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Indians back up to bat.
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Jun 22, 2008 4:35 PM EDT
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Berroa its one in the hole between 3B and SS, Blake doesn’t glove it cleanly, it’s called a hit, next batter grounds out to 2B.
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Jun 22, 2008 4:36 PM EDT
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I have the season divided like this: Indians must with Sabathia and Lee starts. Indians hopefully win Laffey starts. Indians need to try and win one of Byrd/Sowers’ starts.
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Jun 22, 2008 4:35 PM EDT
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One win from Byrdowers over the course of the rest of the season? That’s going to be tough.
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Jun 22, 2008 4:37 PM EDT
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Casey Blake’s kid is going to be a wicked athlete.
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Jun 22, 2008 4:38 PM EDT
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he’s also going to be one of those 4th graders sporting a mini-stache
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Jun 22, 2008 4:39 PM EDT
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He’ll probably be managed at the AA level by Eric Wedge’s son. For 8 years.
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 4:39 PM EDT
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The opposition with neutralize him by lulling him to sleep with Vince Scully recordings.
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Jun 22, 2008 4:40 PM EDT
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Scully lets me know that Casey got out in his 3rd grade spelling bee on the word Jeopardy. Seriously.
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Jun 22, 2008 4:40 PM EDT
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I don’t mind his voice, but I don’t understand why EVERY second must be filled with speech. Some silence is ok.
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Jun 22, 2008 4:41 PM EDT
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The Rockies announcers used this one earlier in the week. So either it’s in the media guide, or Casey’s telling everyone. Either way, not good.
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Jun 22, 2008 6:21 PM EDT
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checked the pages of the media guide that I DL’d a month or so ago … didn’t see it.
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Jun 22, 2008 6:39 PM EDT
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Looch… lord.
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 4:41 PM EDT
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Trivia:
How many career HRs does Dellucci have?
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Jun 22, 2008 4:41 PM EDT
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One. Off of Justin Chamberlain.
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Jun 22, 2008 4:41 PM EDT
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You’ve already forgotten about the HR against Detroit last year?
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Jun 22, 2008 4:42 PM EDT
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that really sucks for as long as he’s been around. And like 40 of them were in 1 year.
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Jun 22, 2008 4:44 PM EDT
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Dellucci could hit his 100th homerun in the same year Paul Byrd wins his 100th game. Now that’s just too special a season not to celebrate.
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Jun 22, 2008 4:46 PM EDT
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I dunno. He’s got 97 in 1026 games. That’s only 6.3 seasons. 15 HRs a season.
Probably low for the era. And he did have 29 one year.
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Jun 22, 2008 4:46 PM EDT
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Wow, Silva has had so many good looks for Spain
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Jun 22, 2008 4:42 PM EDT
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Carlos?
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Jun 22, 2008 4:43 PM EDT
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I wish I had some video of Eric Wedge hitting a HR.
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Jun 22, 2008 4:43 PM EDT
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Is that… surely not… I think it is! A ‘stache!
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Jun 22, 2008 4:45 PM EDT
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Is Scully seriously still talking about Shoppach’s HS football career? He just detailed exactly how Kelly scored 4 TDs in a game.
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Jun 22, 2008 4:44 PM EDT
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Is this on radio or TV?
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Jun 22, 2008 4:44 PM EDT
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Ah. He does some of both. I wish I had the scratch for MLB video, but I’m in-market for the summer, so it makes no sense.
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Jun 22, 2008 4:47 PM EDT
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Is it wrong to debate pinch-hitting here?
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Jun 22, 2008 4:44 PM EDT
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Jun 22, 2008 4:45 PM EDT
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Yeah we probably should have.
But the LA feed did show us the authentic Paul Byrd bat.
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Jun 22, 2008 4:46 PM EDT
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Is that really the at-bat the anti-DH “baseball purists” envision being worthwhile?
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Jun 22, 2008 4:47 PM EDT
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I sort of like the symmetry.
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Jun 22, 2008 4:49 PM EDT
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A lot of batters strike out helplessly flailing at Byrd offerings, so Byrd should reciprocate?
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Jun 22, 2008 4:50 PM EDT
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Man could take the pitches, if he wanted to. I just sort of like the idea of batting the same players you field. Happy with the DH, but admire the NL approach equally.
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Jun 22, 2008 4:54 PM EDT
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Scully co-oping Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner for a stay hydrated message.
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Jun 22, 2008 4:49 PM EDT
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Maybe we shouldn’t have used Elarton yesterday…
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Jun 22, 2008 4:49 PM EDT
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Hey, Juan Pierre’s still giving away outs! Great!
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Jun 22, 2008 4:51 PM EDT
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Scully says Byrd is reminding him of a bird getting ready to take off with that windup.
Uhh. Ok.
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Jun 22, 2008 4:51 PM EDT
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I hear watching Catfish Hunter pitch reminded him of a catfish hunting
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Jun 22, 2008 4:53 PM EDT
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Watching soccer fans smoke cigarettes in the stands.
Awesome.
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Jun 22, 2008 4:52 PM EDT
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I also enjoy them singing some song to the tune of Seven Nation Army
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Jun 22, 2008 4:54 PM EDT
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“Grady’s dad, an African American, is an insurance adjuster.”
Thanks, Vince. WHAT?
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Jun 22, 2008 4:55 PM EDT
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oh wow
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Jun 22, 2008 4:56 PM EDT
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I preferred the line that followed, “Looking at the AL extra base hit leaders over the last few years you’ll see some of the usual names: David Ortiz, Manny Ramirez, and then oops, Grady Sizemore!”
Uhh. Do you watch baseball much?
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Jun 22, 2008 4:56 PM EDT
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“i hear they let them vote these days”
/sarc
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Jun 22, 2008 4:56 PM EDT
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i hope this game doesn’t go to penalty kicks
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Jun 22, 2008 4:57 PM EDT
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so Jamey Carroll’s been a smart acquisition, huh?
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Jun 22, 2008 4:58 PM EDT
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Yeah. He’s the only utility IF we’ve ever succeeded with.
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Jun 22, 2008 4:59 PM EDT
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Sean Smith is pitching decently in Colorado Springs, but nothing to get overly excited about
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Jun 22, 2008 5:01 PM EDT
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Carroll’s 2009 contract is nice ($2.5M club option)
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Jun 22, 2008 5:04 PM EDT
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I will be pissed if we don’t get >/= 2 here.
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 4:59 PM EDT
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Boooo. Yanks win, Boston’s winning, and TB lost.
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 5:00 PM EDT
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If Weglarz goes 1-4 with a single and a walk one more time…
Ugh.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:00 PM EDT
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KC hit Lincecum hard today. His first bad outing?
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Jun 22, 2008 5:01 PM EDT
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I know this is an inning late, but I just want to say I hate National League baseball. Shoppach gets a double so we have men on 2nd and 3rd with two outs….but the pitcher is up. End of the inning. I hate having an automatic out (CC notwithstanding).
I know people talk about the so-called “strategy” required by the manager in the NL, but I don’t see how pretty much automatically bunting with the pitcher (unless there is two outs) amounts to much strategy. It’s just a black hole in the lineup.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:01 PM EDT
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I remember the Indians were linked to Billingsley in the 2003 draft because they had two first-round picks and a supplemental pick, and Bilingsley was an Ohio kid.
They went with Michael Aubrey, who’d been a stud at Tulane, and Brad Snyder, who was all kinds of athletic at Ball State.
Damn.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:03 PM EDT
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Oh The supplemental pick was used on Adam Miller. There’s still hope.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:04 PM EDT
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Billingsley’s throwing a lot of pitches. this looks kind of like 2007 Tribe
by APV on
Jun 22, 2008 5:05 PM EDT
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yayyyyyyy
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 5:05 PM EDT
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Garko!
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by vbc3 on
Jun 22, 2008 5:05 PM EDT
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I said that. 4 a possibility with that WP/PB.
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 5:07 PM EDT
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The color guy in this football match has been angry the entire match. I think he’s constipated.
by APV on
Jun 22, 2008 5:05 PM EDT
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Yeah. He was livid at the ref in the first 20 minutes.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:06 PM EDT
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He’s livid every match. He used to play and back then men were men and the usual.
Proud supporter of the Cleveland.
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Jun 22, 2008 11:50 PM EDT
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STO just showed the Trevor Crowe went 4 for 8 in a doubleheader with a home run. I haven’t heard much about him this year—is he still considered much of a prospect? Or have we given up hope on him?
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Jun 22, 2008 5:06 PM EDT
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All of the above, from what I can tell.
by peter m on
Jun 22, 2008 5:07 PM EDT
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he’s currently on a rampage, and behind only Hodges in terms of Akron regulars in OPS (~.810)
by APV on
Jun 22, 2008 5:07 PM EDT
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answering your question, the love for him seems to have receded somewhat…but will probably return to a degree. he was one of those weird guys who was incredible well regarded without ever having produced much above A-ball
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Jun 22, 2008 5:08 PM EDT
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Here’s a quiz for you Adam.
Is there any reason for us to not be more excited about Stephen Head than Trevor Crowe?
by afh4 on
Jun 22, 2008 5:11 PM EDT
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Head actually was highly regarded as a hitter coming out of college. Nice to see him hitting a bit.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:13 PM EDT
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Stephen Head’s a fringe sleeper kind of guy. He’s never put up what you would consider “good” numbers, despite regularly having decent peripheral numbers. At this point he’s kind of old, but maybe he’s finally turning his peripherals into performance. It’d be nice to see more power, though.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:13 PM EDT
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Maybe Head can pull a Kouzmanoff impression.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:19 PM EDT
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He needs to add about 200 points of OPS.
But let’s hope.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:20 PM EDT
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Kouzmanoff’s “rise” was mostly batting average related with a Marcus Thames spurt of power that has since gone away.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:23 PM EDT
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he hasn’t been terrible in San Diego. In a pitcher friendly park he’s put up an ISO right around .180, which isn’t terrible. I don’t think anyone thought he’d maintain his ridiculous .650 SLG% from 2006
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Jun 22, 2008 5:27 PM EDT
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He has “tools,” but he was even considered a stretch to be drafted as high as he was by the Indians. He’s not playing CF. He’s not stealing many bases. He’s still drawing walks. Maybe he’ll carve out a career as a 4th outfielder. Probably fits in the NL.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:10 PM EDT
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That’s a great Casey Blake story. Scully redeems himself.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:07 PM EDT
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Casey was playing first when he first came up and was holding Robbie Alomar on. Blake had never really played first. Alomar leans over and says “Kid, you don’t have to hold me on. There’s a runner on second.” Blake looks at dugout, all of his MIN teammates are falling over themselves laughing.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:08 PM EDT
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Ha ha. Thanks for passing it along.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:10 PM EDT
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seems strange for Robbie to say that. Let him keep the hole open.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:11 PM EDT
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I like the story because it makes it clear, again, that Robbie Alomar rules.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:12 PM EDT
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yes he does.
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 5:12 PM EDT
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summary?
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 5:08 PM EDT
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I smell a tie.
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by vbc3 on
Jun 22, 2008 5:07 PM EDT
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THREE
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 5:09 PM EDT
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who brought the bottle of vintage good Blake
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Jun 22, 2008 5:10 PM EDT
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LOOCH REACHES BASE!
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 5:10 PM EDT
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I’ll take it!
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by vbc3 on
Jun 22, 2008 5:10 PM EDT
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don’t worry, I’m’ sure he’ll issue an apology after the game
by APV on
Jun 22, 2008 5:11 PM EDT
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I had hopes when I saw this time machine that him reaching base also meant a run scored.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:11 PM EDT
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Didn’t see it But, maybe it was his throwing arm?
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Jun 22, 2008 5:12 PM EDT
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yea right. Looch doesn’t get hits.
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by westbrook on
Jun 22, 2008 5:12 PM EDT
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Another double would be fantastic here, Kelly.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:11 PM EDT
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prediction: walk for Shoppach, Byrd Ks on 3 pitches
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Jun 22, 2008 5:12 PM EDT
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According to Scully he’s falling out of it. Very interesting phrasing.
The batter swings and the summer flies...
by cclemens31 on
Jun 22, 2008 5:14 PM EDT
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Rats.
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by vbc3 on
Jun 22, 2008 5:13 PM EDT
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He can take some awesomely ugly swings.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:14 PM EDT
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Why is Billingsley even pitching to him with Byrd on deck?
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Jun 22, 2008 5:13 PM EDT
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How many for Byrd? He often gets pulled with a relatively low pitch count (properly, I might add).
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Jun 22, 2008 5:15 PM EDT
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So, likely a 5 inning start. Bullpen war, coming up!
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Jun 22, 2008 5:17 PM EDT
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I’m going to assume Kelly’s chasing because he knows he has to get a hit. So he’s trying to foul it off and keep the AB going?
He just missed that one down the line.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:15 PM EDT
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Shoppach did the right thing by swinging at the 3-1. I think the 3-2 was a strike. It’s a tough spot in which to hit, ‘cause Shoppach, not a contact hitter, has to expand his zone knowing the pitcher is next.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:18 PM EDT
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he’s beginning to look useful. he’s only thrown 7 balls in 3 innings
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Jun 22, 2008 5:20 PM EDT
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To whoever fixed whatever was wrong with Byrd today, thanks!
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Jun 22, 2008 5:20 PM EDT
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For reals. 2 misses? Yikes.
I once had to wake at 6:30 to have a PK shootout because light had gone out the night before. It was in some state cup tournament or something.
I kicked it over the goal.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:22 PM EDT
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the last time I played organized soccer I was about 8. I was in goal and attempted a drop-kick. What I actually did was kick the ball straight over my head and into my own goal.
by APV on
Jun 22, 2008 5:23 PM EDT
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Same place as the one Spain missed. That’s a lousy spot for a PK.
by afh4 on
Jun 22, 2008 5:21 PM EDT
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who let the 12-year old kick the game-winner?
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Jun 22, 2008 5:21 PM EDT
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Spain hadn’t beaten Italy since 1920 in a major tournament
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Jun 22, 2008 5:21 PM EDT
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Reminds me of that NFL films shot of Steve Young having the monkey ripped off his back.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:22 PM EDT
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i’m happy, though. I don’t like Italy. Now that Croatia and the Netherlands are out, maybe I’ll root for Spain.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:22 PM EDT
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The tournament has gotten way less sexy in the last few days.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:22 PM EDT
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i really liked those two sides. of the remaining, I think Russia’s played the best, but i’m contractually obliged to not root for them. Turkey’s been lucky and now only has like half a squad for their match with Germany. Germans are scary. So I think I’ll root for spain (despite producing a really boring match today).
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Jun 22, 2008 5:24 PM EDT
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I have to root for Turkey after their last two games. I love seeing teams that won’t give up like that
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Jun 22, 2008 5:25 PM EDT
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if i thought they had any chance at all, i’d root for Turkey
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Jun 22, 2008 5:25 PM EDT
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Do you not root for Russia because you are contractually an American?
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Jun 22, 2008 5:25 PM EDT
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no….because I work in and have spent extensive time in Georgia
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I don’t know what they did with Paul Byrd after the first inning, but I like the guy they found to replace him. Let’s keep him in our rotation for the rest of the year.
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Carroll has definitely been stepping up.
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by vbc3 on
Jun 22, 2008 5:28 PM EDT
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He just needed us to stop jerking him around with PT
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Jun 22, 2008 5:28 PM EDT
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Hmm. I did not know that, Scully.
Choo pitched in Korea. And was clocked at 95.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:30 PM EDT
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And he once pitched 44 innings in 5 games in 7 days. Hence, Tommy John.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:30 PM EDT
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Good lord. I’d say so.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:31 PM EDT
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Yes, but the pride he brought to his country and family name will never be erased.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:31 PM EDT
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I’ve always wondered what at Jamey Carroll homerun looks like.
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Jun 22, 2008 5:30 PM EDT
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That Jason Tyner one wasn’t enough for you?
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Jun 22, 2008 5:31 PM EDT
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Billingsley has at most another inning in him
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Jun 22, 2008 5:31 PM EDT
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so if we win and the Sox lose we’re back to 5.5 out, huh?
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Jun 22, 2008 5:32 PM EDT
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Choo is sort of an inverted Ben Francisco. He hits most of his balls in play to the outfield to left and center; Francisco is a dead pull hitter, at least from what I’ve seen. Interesting how opposite they are in their approach.
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