Cincinnati Reds @ Cleveland Indians GameThread, Jun 28, 2008 7:05 PM EDT

Game Thread: June 28, 2008

by Ryan on Jun 28, 2008 6:45 PM EDT in Game Threads Comment 258 comments

Cincinnati Reds @ Cleveland Indians

Cincinnati at Cleveland, 7:05 PM (STO)

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Once again – SAL FASANO.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 6:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

So some bored pre-game clicking led me to Jay’s only FanPost on Reds Reporter. Yikes.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 6:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Where is everybody? It’s Indians baseball!

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 7:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

One down

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Crapitty crap. Dunn solo shot.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 7:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Byrd should NEVER pitch to Dunn.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 7:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

All-Star Grady?

by obobcatu on Jun 28, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Walking Grady.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This isn’t great discussion, but I don’t own any tribe gear, never have. These jerseys are the closest I’ve come to wanting one.

by joeee on Jun 28, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Are they wearing the alternates?

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yessir. Looks sharp.

by joeee on Jun 28, 2008 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I second.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t have any Tribe gear either. Just this here Lake County Captains cap.

by jhon on Jun 28, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Strange, I also own a Captains hat.

by joeee on Jun 28, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If anyone is lurking, please post so I know there’s more than three of us here.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I’m here, just ambivalent.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jay’s here, just inchoate.

by joeee on Jun 28, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh, hell, now I have to look up a word.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

hello, Bartolo.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just got here…digging the new gamecast 3D

by Chief Wahoo on Jun 28, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I hate the way it shifts every time I mouse over it, which I do by accident. What is the point of the angled views? I want the heads-up so I can see the actual strike zone. I position it that way and it keeps drifting. Grr.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yea I agree – this new view thing does nothing for me.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I want to see the ball path on balls in play.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

this is another reason on-ball tracking devices would be awesome.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

seconded

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why do people say “seconded” all the time?

Is there a motion on the floor?

Will we be voting?

I would submit to you that there is no motion, and we will not be voting.

by Jay on Jun 29, 2008 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

seconded

by Voltaire on Jun 29, 2008 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you need one especialu with fasano around now. they’re calling it the panini cam.

by Brick. on Jun 28, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not digging GIDPs

by Chief Wahoo on Jun 28, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I love these blatantly unsubstantial ricoh commercials which advocate pretty looking reports or “ideas”

by joeee on Jun 28, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

“I hate Beer brand beer.”

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Many a man has lost his shirt for not deploying the best imaging technologies of his day.

by jhon on Jun 28, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

How can Hammy say the AL central has won 24 straight when we’ve lost twice in the past 5 days?

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I was wondering the exact same thing.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Look at the standings, current streaks shows:

Won 3
Won 10
Won 3
Won 2
Won 6

That’s what he means.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

so we think Hammy really thinks AL central teams have won 24 in a row?

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No, I think he knows what it does and doesn’t mean — or doesn’t really care enough to give it any thought.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Sal Fasano can deal.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Fasano is sporting an unfortunately normal goatee.

by joeee on Jun 28, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

This too shall pass.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I am rec’ing this entire thread because of the Fasano appearance. The new gameday = pretty sweet. Unfortunately I have to go to a function.

Godspeed, Sals.

by jhon on Jun 28, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Didn’t the minors make him shave his stache? He said he was growing it back.

by Vichan on Jun 28, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

True and true.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Stache getting it done.

by obobcatu on Jun 28, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Fasano is so … strong …

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I approve of Fasano.

by obobcatu on Jun 28, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Maybe Hammy was adding the winning streaks of the 5 AL Central teams against the NL
Minn 10, KC 6, Chicago 3, Det 3, Cle 2 = 24
a novel way of looking at things

by palcal on Jun 28, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Stepping out, will be back.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

How does product placement work in the MLB? Does your team get a contract with like Nike or Adidas and you’re stuck with that? Or do you order all your own stuff?

by joeee on Jun 28, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

order your own stuff through the team*

by joeee on Jun 28, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Stache slam? Oh, it would just be too much

by Chief Wahoo on Jun 28, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I didn’t even think “oh, the bases are loaded for Fasano” ... 2 outs with Fasano up automatically registers in my head as “inning over”... already, after like a week of him.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He’s had 3 AB before this.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or, you know, a 3 pitch K. Whatever

by Chief Wahoo on Jun 28, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hitting Gut was totally on purpose to get to Fasano.

by Vichan on Jun 28, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

save 3 pitches on the pitch count?

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just read the trade fan post (Stark Rumblings/Grumblings). I’m glad to see most here share my ‘surrender the season’ attitude too. We’re so far out of first, though admittedly the division remains “winnable”. Four of our core players, guys who were essential pieces on the playoff team a year ago, each have significant injuries, and there is no reason to try to establish an incentive for them to rush back too soon. Let them recuperate fully and get ready for april ‘09. Auction off CC, see if anyone is willing to pay Byrd the rest of this season, and sell Blake to a team in need of a bearded superutility player. Dare I suggest they should let Marte play? We can only hope they do. Let’s see what we have in Choo, Gutz (though if someone wants him, then buh bye Gutz), Francisco, and whoever else it may be reasonable to call up from the farm and let play on the big stage. The season has been over for a couple weeks, and prolonging the illusion that we’re still “in it” is only us spinning our wheels. The Tribe need to put themselves in the best position to win in ‘09, and that starts by acknowledging that this year’s ship is sunk. Hopefully Shapiro reads LGT.

by obobcatu on Jun 28, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Gutz 0-18, Garko 0-13, Fasano 0-4

by palcal on Jun 28, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Looch 1/60

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Meh. I could be stretching. But the pitch was BEHIND Gut.

by Vichan on Jun 28, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

“Tribe’s Carmona, Hafner still healing from injuries”

Awesome update that just showed up in my ESPN.com MLB RSS feed. Ugh…

by obobcatu on Jun 28, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I’m back. The pizza has been eaten. You can all calm down.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Geez, no comment for ten minutes?

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yay Gutz.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Please. I know we’re depressed, but it’s the Cleveland Indians. Let’s gamethread.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

We haven’t seen Mujica in 2 weeks and Bauer in 11 days. This could be their night.

by palcal on Jun 28, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I hope not, not if it means blowout.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

please

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Made it home just in time to see Paul Bako do what he’s been doing for 10 years: crushing hopes and dreams with his bat. Usually, though, the hopes and dreams being crushed are those of the team on his jersey.

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs

Let’s get to this Cueto kid.

by JulioBernazard on Jun 28, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

So the Indians had a chance early and Garko didn’t get the run home. Did he at least hit it hard?

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I’m back, Volt. We can carry this thing.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Deal. clap clap clap

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually, I’ll tell you how depressing it is, I’ve been revisiting my first Tribe forum (think of it as my kindergarten) and laughing at the mortals.

Shapiro needs to look at blowing it up now or there will be nothing left to blow up in a couple years. This core of players, obviously less Sizemore who it wouldn’t pay you to get rid of, has about run its course and it’s time for some serious rebuilding IMHO, hopefully around Sizemore and Carmona.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sigh.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Groan.

by JulioBernazard on Jun 28, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I actually have found myself loving this team in spite of this season. Which is good, I guess.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Isn’t it curious how despite the feeling inside, we continue to watch?

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s the inherent irrationality of being a fan.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ChiSux already won today. Not…looking…good.

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It is for those of us rooting for Sabathia to be traded by Wednesday.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I only am if the best offer will be made on Wednesday.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Who’s your new avatar?

by SuddenSam on Jun 28, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh c’mon.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Figure it out.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thought so, but I couldn’t figure out why. So it’s an attempt to put a little vibe on CC?

by SuddenSam on Jun 28, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

A little vibe on C.C., a little vibe on just remembering that teams are built in strange ways.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that was a pretty good game, sans the result. Which I think has taken some excitement out of this one.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kenny Williams caught so much crap for dealing this offseason as if his team was a contender. And while they’ll probably win 88 games or so this year (yes, I know they’re on pace for 91), Williams guessed right. We all thought the Tigers would have pitching issues. But who would have thought the Indians and Tigers would be here. If anything, it just serves as a reminder to Shapiro and Co. that with a few tweaks this offseason, they’re right back in it. Alternating years of success, I guess, is better than none.

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You think he guessed that the Indians and Tigers would both fall apart, and that he only needed to win 88 games?

I don’t think he guessed that. But then again, I don’t know what the hell he was thinking, so maybe it was that.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Perhaps Williams is actually a clairvoyant genius and his public persona is a clever act.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It couldn’t have been a “On paper, we’re better than the Indians and Tigers.”

The White Sox will suffer a fate similar to the Mariners struggle from 2007 to 2008. The Sox bullpen is overachieving, from Thorton, to Logan, to Masset, to Linebrink, and even Dotel, who hasn’t been this good since 2003…with Houston, in that other League. All of them will have another full run on their ERA in 2009.

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And I dazzle you with my inability to correctly use “a” and “an.”

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yay! That was a good inning.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow, the bar is pretty low.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

C’mon. Cut me some slack. I’m trying.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sal Fasano with his first hit as a Cleveland Indian.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

And his last. I was hoping for an infield single. Something for the record books, ya know?

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sal finally decides: “I’ll hit that.”

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

So when you gonna anwer your phone?

"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Jun 28, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh, hell … ringer’s been off. You know, like Walter says …

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Okay, it’s back on now. So when you call, I’ll actually be aware of it and screening.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That was good.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

This game only, or until I grow bored. New avatar.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Ha! Thought about it. Mulholland would be another good one.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You guys can be excited about the next Sizemore from the deal. I wanna know who’s the next that guy.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gagne?

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

well…my thoughts exactly.

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Poor phrasing. Wanted to draw attention to the new face. Did a poor job of it.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know this was an hour ago, but I meant to ask you to explain this.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was joking that everyone here on LGT wants to know who the top prospects we’re going to acquire are. I want to know who the useless veteran stuck in the deal for some random reason will be.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh, yeah — that’s what I thought you meant.

And my answer is still: Gagne.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

how about Mike Lowell?

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Okay, I get it. I was too stupid to get that’s what you meant. I thought it was something like you were guessing Gagne was my new picture.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

“Stupid” is a little strong.

I’d have said Tavarez, but they DFA’ed him last week, and Boston is paying his salary anyway.

Turnbow is still owed 1.6M, but he’s off the 40-man and in Triple-A. Still, we could take him.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eric Gagne.

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually, I think at this point we gotta round up more people to be Sizemore, Lee, and Phillips (that last one will be fun)

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So, GFP, if you’re reading this afterwards, warmed up on Ben Fran yet?

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

he’s opsing .800 with bad defense.

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 28, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

third-best OPS+ on the team

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

we’re pretty terrible offensively

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 29, 2008 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What’s the new avatar theme? I’m getting tired of my Jason Michaels mugshot.

by Toxicadam on Jun 28, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Claim one of the remaining guys from the Colon deal.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

by SuddenSam on Jun 28, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good one. Why do I keep forgetting he was part of that?

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They’re channeling the ghost of Bartolo Colon’s deadline deal in the spirit of CC’s upcoming departure.

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think any trade-off or throw-in from any 2002 trade would do nicely.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not a trade-off or a throw-in, but he represents everything good about 2002.

And, as a side note, when you google only his name, more shirtless pictures than is healthy appear.

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I shamefully can’t tell who that is.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’ll give you a hint. He once hit 50 homeruns as a leadoff man in a single season, nearly 1/4th of all the HR he hit in his 15 year career.

I thought about deadline deal players, but the Indians staffed some quality 4A roster fodder that year. I was going to go with Bruce Aven, but I don’t even know what he looks like.

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Got it.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He spent only 34 games in a Tribe uniform, but he still managed this photo shoot. I think it was a Glamour Shots exclusive.

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They make so much of this HBP stuff. Maybe it’s because they can’t hit and they lean into everything.

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Garko has stranded 6 in three ABs.

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Of all the guys hit by pitches tonight, none of them is Brandon Phillips.

I’m sad about that.

I’m also sad that the great Sal Fasano could only get to first base.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jun 28, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

1) Sal would rather not have to run that much.

2) Is a King not out of his element when away from his throne? I don’t know the extent of Fasano’s royal baseball lineage or the exactly location of his throne, but it sure isn’t on the base paths.

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

When did we get to the point with our bullpen that Rafael Perez comes out of the bullpen before Scott Elarton?

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jun 28, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The whole season? Maybe I don’t understand the question.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

We just brought in Scott Elarton to clean up Rafael Perez’ mess.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jun 28, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Right…but don’t we want Perez coming out first if the game’s close-ish?

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Do we want Elarton coming into games that are close-ish at all?

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jun 28, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If Blake commits an error in the forrest, does Marte hear it?

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

He’s too busy playing dominoes and hungering for an opportunity.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jun 28, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Even if this move works out, I don’t get it..

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I am enjoying all the little trading chips on the right side of this page.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Awesome

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hey, Sal Fasano got to third base. He might even score!

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jun 28, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Are his person and his mustache counted as two separate runs?

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not yet. He likes to tease.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

darn

by SuddenSam on Jun 28, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I really didnt think you can suck this much at execution.

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Carroll hit the ball well. Ben, not so much.

by SuddenSam on Jun 28, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jhonny whill mhake up fhor it.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Woah, wait, Gameday was way ahead of the radio there.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was gonna say…

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

SELL SELL SELL

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Why not put in Rick Bauer and see if he can be useful in the next year or two?

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Because 5-0 defecits are not good indicators of future success?

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Then he’ll never pitch again.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yay. Scott Elarton. Yay.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yay for Corey Patterson’s futility.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

So how’s this avatar?

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Perfect.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jhonny loves the groundout to 3B. Can’t get the hands in to drive the ball…

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Casey continues the slow grind of upping his trade value.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He’s a grinder. That’s what he does.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jun 28, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Who needs a 3B?

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

We do! Oh, wait, I get it now.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jun 28, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Twins? I know they are a division rival, but they have some intriguing arms. And the Indians aren’t rivaling anything this year.
Phillis? Pedro Feliz can play defense. and he signed a two year deal. Hm…but maybe.
Angels? Chone Figgins can move to 2B
BrewCrew? Branyan won’t keep this up.
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by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yankees? Their 3B is anti-clutch and ours defines clutch.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Blake’s range as a SS probably rivals that of Jeter.

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

I am saddened that I can only bestow one rec on this.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jun 28, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can’t even begin to imagine the return for Casey. I don’t know if I expect Ricardo Rincon for Marshall MacDougal or Jacob Cruz for Josh Bard/Jody Gerut.

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Exactly. I can’t wait. It’s like anticipating Christmas.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pooey.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Get on one knee. Swing at your head.

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mujica coming in!

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He plays GREAT defense, too!

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

What’s the avatar?

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jason Dubois, acquired for Jody Gerut.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s showing up as a blank white square for me.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

refresh? maybe?

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just did. Blank white square.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Refresh didn’t work for me either. Still a blank white square.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jun 28, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And me.

Now if it were Phelps, then the blank white square would kind of make sense.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol

how about now?

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Loud and clear, buddy.

It’s no David Gray, but it’s nice.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow! I hope Casey Blake’s beta unit doesn’t get called back to Rylos before we can trade him.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jun 28, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I don’t even want Marte to play right now. Keep showcasing Blake, pray he doesn’t have a horrendous week.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yup. Plenty of time after the ASG for Marte.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually we’re deluding ourselves. Ensberg is in the minors. C’mon.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

he’s probably got a better chance of growing a quick Wedge-impressing beard.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Okay, if we trade Blake this weekend, we can call up Ensberg, showcase him for a month, and if he accidentally hits three home runs, we can trade him, too.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m Mark Shapiro, and I approve this message.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like how the booth tries to set up a homerun. Root for failure guys, root for it.

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Try to think of it as setting up the HR-stealing grab by Goot.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or is that Güt?

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s “besser”.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

HERE WE GO

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

So are you guys content with Francisco, Sizemore, Choo to start 2009?

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Didn’t we have a good outfield once? It seems like we did.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sure. 1995-2001.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh yeah. That was nice.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

it was our outfield being our outfield.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sal Fasano time.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Well he ALMOST chased a strike, so that’s progress.

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

So did someone Photoshop Fasano into a Tribe cap, or is that really his facial hair? Because it is EPIC.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Never a doubt.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

FasanoSlam, relatively.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Fasano got on base 3-4. Why so down on him tonight, specifically?

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He’s just showing up Paul Bako, which, honestly, I find quite rude.

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that third pitch is fun to look at in gameday 3D

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Grady that is not ideal, especially when we’re trying to score 5 runs, especially when Sal Fasano just got on base.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

So…one guy with a hit, and two guys chasing ball four. It’s not a bad rally for this offense.

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

We made Cordero throw 24 pitches, at least! He won’t make it past the 5th!

What? Oh.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Here’s another one: Mike Cameron.

And we could take back Kendall if we were sending Shoppach. Which I don’t think we will.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Kendall would more than make up for the grit we’d lose in Blake.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

other teams might look at blake as an OF instead of a 3B

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or a SS!

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or a 2B!

He was reportedly rumored to have been rumored to have been discussed as a possible 2B option that one time!

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

HE CAN PLAY ANYWHERE. Is baseball ready for grit at all nine positions simultaneously?

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

my point is, that Cameron sounds unlikely to be included in a deal, but Blake could play the OF in his place.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just looking for underperforming veterans. Cameron is making $7 million and has a .286 OBP.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Which actually slots him in nicely in our 4-hole.

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That is, sadly, both a good joke and a good idea.

by Jay on Jun 29, 2008 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think CLE could spin Cameron before the deadline too.

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Very possible.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mentioned him in part because Güt could be included in a major deal.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was thinking the Brewers might like Gutz for CF, plus they have Gwnn Jr. and Kapler, but Corey Hart can probably handle CF, allowing the Brewers to get a corner OF bat elsewhere.

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And to your point, ridding themselves of Cameron’s salary might enable them to afford that extra OF.

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

But … we’re not going to take Cameron if we’re not sending them an OF … and I don’t think they’ll want Dellucci.

by Jay on Jun 29, 2008 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is so 2008. We’re cheering for the three-run-loss-clinching run coming to the plate.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Feel the black abyss. Or whatever that joke was.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is so 2008. I am rooting for whatever that joke was.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

WALKITY WALK WALK

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Oh, shut up Hamilton! I find this extremely riveting.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hamilton ragging on Ben Fran for not giving up.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Sigh.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yup

by Fios on Jun 28, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice work.

Could have featured Byrd better, but WTF.

We actually will be fortunate to be truly out of it rather than merely mediocre in a weak division.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

-Q

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 28, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

There goes the Ohio Cup.

Sell.

by SuddenSam on Jun 28, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

How these guys will even show their faces in the streets of Cleveland is beyond me. Scott Sauerbeck will have to come back to show them how to hide in the bushes when being pursued.

by xrickx on Jun 28, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And I’m going to be in Cincinnati and Dayton next week. I guess they’ll be parading that thing everywhere.

by SuddenSam on Jun 28, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Last place!

by Jay on Jun 28, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Everyone: read the thread. Get a new avatar.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

did they really have 25 LOB or did i read that wrong???

by emt62948 on Jun 28, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

You read it wrong. They had 12.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

2002: The Summer of Selby

by Toxicadam on Jun 28, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I once acquired 10 identical Bill Selby cards.

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope you encased them in vinyl sheets. I would hate to see mother nature ruin such valuable items.

by Toxicadam on Jun 28, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

One of them is permanently slabbed in a vinyl sheet in my card collection. One of them is in the hands of a fellow tribe fan, and the other 8 are carefully and neatly stored in a cardboard box…waiting…

by Voltaire on Jun 28, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs