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Game Thread: June 30, 2008

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Cleveland @ Chicago


Cleveland at Chicago, 8:11 PM (STO)

The Indians' prospects are such that losing this series probably means the season is over. Baseball Prospectus's Adjusted Standings say that the Indians are a better team than their 37-45 record indicates, but leaving Chicago down 10 or more games with four teams ahead of them is a deficit no amount of true talent can overcome. Not with two-fifth of the rotation and two of their top three hitters on the DL.

So as pathetic as it may sound, this series is the first round of the playoffs for the Indians. If they win, they'll keep Sabathia and move on to Minnesota. Lose, and any or all of their pending free agents won't be around for long.

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Those of us rooting for the Indians to get swept in this series in order to remove all doubt and commence the psuedo-fire sale, check in here.

by NickFantana on Jun 30, 2008 6:54 PM EDT   0 recs

A 1-2 showing would do the job. I don’t ever want to get swept.

I’m hoping we either go 1-2, or deliver an emphatic sweep of our own. Nothing in between.

by jhon on Jun 30, 2008 7:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The only thing in between is 2-1.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 30, 2008 7:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Check.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jun 30, 2008 7:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Brother Nick! Love the attitude man. Where’s the picture from?

by NickFantana on Jun 30, 2008 7:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I google-image searched “futility.”

The original caption read, “They say just one person can make a big difference. Sometimes they’re wrong.” I thought it was better just on it’s own.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jun 30, 2008 7:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Whatever is going on there is scary as hell.

by NickFantana on Jun 30, 2008 7:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It’s what Wedge sees in his dreams along with the voice, “We’ve traded Casey…”

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jun 30, 2008 7:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Since the revelation Casey’s been pretty good. Well, his bat at least. I really thought he’d collapsed. I have to admit I was wrong and give Casey some credit. We should get a decent prospect in exchange for him. Not gonna lie, I’ll be a little sad when he goes.

by jhon on Jun 30, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The revelation about the Wedge / Casey perfect union *

by jhon on Jun 30, 2008 7:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i still think we’re going to give him an extension.

by emil minty on Jun 30, 2008 7:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I’ve been wrong before about Casey, but I really hope we don’t.

Shouldn’t we-you know-rebuild things just a little?

by jhon on Jun 30, 2008 7:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i’m not saying it would make any sense, just that i think they’re going to do it.

by emil minty on Jun 30, 2008 8:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I hadn’t even considered this. What makes you think this?

If they do this, then there really is no point to having Marte here. And this would trash the narrative I built around the Ensberg signing.

by jhon on Jun 30, 2008 8:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

not something i’ve put a lot of thought or analysis into. i think they’re going to do it to spite me.

by emil minty on Jun 30, 2008 8:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

When it comes to Casey, that’s as plausible a reason as any. You might be completely right, and this has me concerned.

by jhon on Jun 30, 2008 8:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

This seems appropriate:

by Ryan on Jun 30, 2008 7:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

How about 2 out of 3? I’d rather CC win with a CG SHO to boost his stock further.

Actually, just one out of 3. I’d like Lee to do the same, so that he starts the all-star game.

LeCavs!
If you were good enough, maybe we'd name it after you.

by Matt in LA on Jun 30, 2008 6:59 PM EDT   0 recs

Agree with this.

I’m rooting for us to lose the first two games. The third game, with C.C. or without, I’ll be rooting for a win.

by Jay on Jun 30, 2008 8:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

As much as I’d love a fire sale, I can’t help but hang onto one last glimmer of hope. So much so that I’ve been pumped for tonight’s game all day long. Like Ryan said above, the playoffs begin tonight. In June.

LET’S GO TRIBE!!!

by supermarioelia on Jun 30, 2008 7:07 PM EDT   0 recs

HEY HEY HEY!

by Voltaire on Jun 30, 2008 9:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I’m currently watching the Cleveland Gladiators AFL playoff game. Playoff football in Cleveland, how about that?

by NickFantana on Jun 30, 2008 7:08 PM EDT   0 recs

isn’t kosar playing for that team?

by oaksterdam on Jun 30, 2008 7:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Kosar is the part owner and GM of the Gladiators. I’ve gone to a couple of games, they’re actually pretty entertaining to watch.

by Fundamentals on Jun 30, 2008 7:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

why is it that i feel pain when i see this:

delucci – dh

by oaksterdam on Jun 30, 2008 7:25 PM EDT   0 recs

talk about kicking us while we’re down…david dellucci is the worst player on a 25 man in baseball

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 30, 2008 8:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Interesting.

Could be true.

Could there be a bad infielder who’s such a thoroughly horrible hitter to negate the difference in defensive value?

by Jay on Jun 30, 2008 8:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Velandia?

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 30, 2008 8:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Doesn’t Angel Berroa have a horrible defensive reputation?

If so, QED.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jun 30, 2008 8:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

plus, he is responsible for the mississippi flooding, so there’s that, too. really detracts from any semblance of value he may have had…

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 30, 2008 8:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Even if we sweep, I still think moving Sabathia is highly probable

by Roger Dorn on Jun 30, 2008 7:31 PM EDT   0 recs

this is our playoff lineup:

Cleveland

G. Sizemore cf
J. Carroll 2b
B. Francisco lf
J. Peralta ss
S. Choo rf
C. Blake 3b
D. Dellucci dh
R. Garko
K. Shoppach c 

Chi White Sox 
O. Cabrera ss
B. Anderson cf 
C. Quentin lf 
J. Dye rf 
J. Thome dh
J. Crede 3b 
N. Swisher 
A. Ramirez 2b 
T. Hall c

by emil minty on Jun 30, 2008 7:32 PM EDT   0 recs

Whatever you did, you’re doing it wrong.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jun 30, 2008 7:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

that didn’t turn out so well…

by emil minty on Jun 30, 2008 7:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Chi White Sox

O. Cabrera ss
B. Anderson cf
C. Quentin lf
J. Dye rf
J. Thome dh
J. Crede 3b
N. Swisher 1b
A. Ramirez 2b
T. Hall c

by emil minty on Jun 30, 2008 7:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hmm. That’s the better lineup. Dammit.

by jhon on Jun 30, 2008 7:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I’ll check back in later. I’ve got a bit of work to do.

And by work, I mean I want to continue reading while drinking gin.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jun 30, 2008 7:40 PM EDT   0 recs

Boodles? Bombay Sapphire? Tangueray?

by NickFantana on Jun 30, 2008 7:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Just Tanqueray. Don’t tell Tyler.

I hear that Amy Winehouse song in my head every time I see the bottle.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jun 30, 2008 8:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

G&T or straight?

by Jay on Jun 30, 2008 8:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Tonic and lime. I usually put some cranberry juice in there, but I thought what the hell.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jun 30, 2008 8:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You know what I really like? Gin and pineapple-orange juice.

by NickFantana on Jun 30, 2008 8:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Really? I tried gin and orange juice once and it was just terrible. But it does sound a little intriguing.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jun 30, 2008 8:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The pineapple adds a little bittersweet which compliments the gin. I do about 1 parts gin to 2 parts juice.

by NickFantana on Jun 30, 2008 8:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I should add, I also don’t care for oj and gin.

by NickFantana on Jun 30, 2008 8:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Worst case scenario is we sweep Chicago, but make up no ground on the Twins or the Tigers providing an allusion of contention, yet going no where. I bet Shapiro has one eye on his red trade deadline phone and the other on whatever magic number the team is hovering around in the standings.

Unfortunately, my computer and tv are in two separate rooms, so no gamethread for me today.

by Pronk33 on Jun 30, 2008 7:59 PM EDT   0 recs

Alright – Let’s win a baseball game!

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 30, 2008 8:09 PM EDT   0 recs

I think there are two schools of feeling around here tonight. I’m with you, let’s win this.

by supermarioelia on Jun 30, 2008 8:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

oh yeah – and the following two.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 30, 2008 8:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

me three

by Voltaire on Jun 30, 2008 9:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

nice timing.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 30, 2008 9:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jun 30, 2008 8:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well looks like the BABIP monster decided to show up tonight.

by supermarioelia on Jun 30, 2008 8:12 PM EDT   0 recs

shutup Hawk

by ASP on Jun 30, 2008 8:12 PM EDT   0 recs

Game on mute, WTAM over the net on delay. Can’t stand Hawk.

by NickFantana on Jun 30, 2008 8:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Playoffs start tonight?
Hawk’s behind the mike.
C.C.’S got one foot out the door.
Sweet Chocolate Jesus, who could ask for anything more.

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Jun 30, 2008 8:14 PM EDT   1 recs

I thought Jamey hit that out.

by supermarioelia on Jun 30, 2008 8:14 PM EDT   0 recs

A RUN!!!!!

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 30, 2008 8:16 PM EDT   0 recs

Don’t get used to it.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jun 30, 2008 8:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He ripped that ball.

by NickFantana on Jun 30, 2008 8:16 PM EDT   0 recs

WHAAAAAAT

by supermarioelia on Jun 30, 2008 8:16 PM EDT   0 recs

Jhoney’s really turnin’ it around huh

by jhon on Jun 30, 2008 8:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don’t think this lead is lasting long.

by Ryan on Jun 30, 2008 8:20 PM EDT   0 recs

But it’s nice now, isn’t it?

by jhon on Jun 30, 2008 8:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Sure, you have to cherish the good times.

by Ryan on Jun 30, 2008 8:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

dangit Ryan

by jhon on Jun 30, 2008 8:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Sometimes I hate to be right.

by Ryan on Jun 30, 2008 8:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Sowers sure does know how to keep a lead.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 30, 2008 8:26 PM EDT   0 recs

Paging Tom Mastny… Paging Tom Mastny.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 30, 2008 8:27 PM EDT   0 recs

Sowers, cut your damn hair. It’s annoying.

by supermarioelia on Jun 30, 2008 8:27 PM EDT   0 recs

not as annoying as his “talent”

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 30, 2008 8:28 PM EDT to parent up   2 recs

Things are much better when I miss strike one and think we’re worse off than we are!

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 30, 2008 8:29 PM EDT   0 recs

He must’ve heard me make fun of the hair. He loves those locks.

by supermarioelia on Jun 30, 2008 8:29 PM EDT   0 recs

He went to school at Vandy, it’s definitely a Southern thing

by Roger Dorn on Jun 30, 2008 8:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Careful not to paint yourself into the “guy who makes fun of Sowers’ hair and thereby improves his talent” corner.

by NickFantana on Jun 30, 2008 8:30 PM EDT to parent up   1 recs

I’m guessing Sowers is out by the third inning.

by Ryan on Jun 30, 2008 8:30 PM EDT   0 recs

I love how your game thread comments are in stark contrast with the eternal hope you give me in your writeups

by Roger Dorn on Jun 30, 2008 8:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I’ll try to be more consistently negative from now on.

by Ryan on Jun 30, 2008 8:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You may have to banish yourself.

by Jay on Jun 30, 2008 8:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I guess Sowers is to me as Hafner is to Chuck. I may have to issue a moratorium on myself talking about Jeremy.

by Ryan on Jun 30, 2008 8:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You and Andrew should have it out with Sowers. Bring up Buchholz a lot.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jun 30, 2008 8:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Have it out with Jay. Der.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jun 30, 2008 8:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Didn’t know you hated Sowers.

Go into it.

by Jay on Jun 30, 2008 10:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

THROW GODDAMN STRIKES.

Like geez if you’re gonna pretend to be Byrd, do it right.

by supermarioelia on Jun 30, 2008 8:31 PM EDT   0 recs

wheeeeeee – SELL SELL SELL

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jun 30, 2008 8:32 PM EDT   0 recs