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Game Thread: July 1, 2008

Cleveland Indians at Chicago White Sox, Jul 1, 2008 8:11 PM EDT


Cleveland at Chicago, 8:11 PM (STO)

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David Huff’s pitching tonight for Buffalo. 2 Ks in the 1st inning for Huff (both swinging). Scranton’s manager, who happens to be Alvaro Espinoza, got ejected following the first.

by APV on Jul 1, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Huff strikes out the side in the 2nd. Two swinging, one looking.

by APV on Jul 1, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huff gets efficient in the 3rd inning and retires the side on 5 pitches

by APV on Jul 1, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

4th is about to begin

by APV on Jul 1, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

somebody get the brontosaurus

by APV on Jul 1, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

So I’m still at work, and the system is still broken!

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I would like to preemptively request as much commentary as those with radio/tv can give, ‘cause I’m gonna be stuck with only Gameday and this thread tonight.

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Someone in the White Sox pre-game just said the White Sox fans “are a special breed.” Can’t argue with that.

by RachelAnn on Jul 1, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the kind of award-winning reporting that will bring the game to life. Kudos!

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

one of the most disgraceful moments in “fan” history

by APV on Jul 1, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

CF Grady Sizemore
2B Jamey Carroll
LF Ben Francisco
SS Jhonny Peralta
3B Casey Blake
DH Shin-Soo Choo
1B Ryan Garko
C Kelly Shoppach
RF Franklin Gutierrez

by RachelAnn on Jul 1, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

glad to see DH, 1B, and RF occupy 3 of our last 4 lineup spots

by APV on Jul 1, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s because our infield is so impressive.

by peter m on Jul 1, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

SS Orlando Cabrera
C A.J. Pierzynski
LF Carlos Quentin
RF Jermaine Dye
DH Jim Thome
3B Joe Crede
1B Nick Swisher
2B Alexei Ramirez
CF Brian Anderson

by RachelAnn on Jul 1, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Let’s Go Tribe. I guess. Whatever.

by RachelAnn on Jul 1, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

where are we going?

by APV on Jul 1, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’re going on a maximum alcohol diet.

by ShawnK on Jul 1, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Given yesterday’s thread, win or lose tonight? I’m secretly backing Cliff to win number 12.

One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play

by new zealand tribe fan on Jul 1, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions  

i’M OPENLY BACKING HIM

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

/Sigh.

Me too.

Dammit.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

if we win, it had better be like 8-0. and tomorrow.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

iSN’T ROOTING AGAINST THE TRIBE IMPLYING YOU HAVE NO FAITH IN SHAP TO KNOW THE TRUE QUALITY OF THIS TEAM?

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

HOORAY LINEUP.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

to elaborate a little, this is the lineup I feel we should always go with when our “big” guys are out with injuries.

whether hafner is any good is another story.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

So i´ve been in mexico for a while now, and although i´ve tried to keep up as much as possible, this lineup makes me a bit queasy. I just can´t believe i´m looking at it. Although i do see that i´m using an accent mark for my apostrophe´s. Not sure where those things are . . .and to think when i left i was telling everyone we would be no more than 2 out by the all star break. I feel sick.

¡Free Chan Perry!

by TheVanillaGorilla on Jul 1, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

... Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

tHERE IS WHEN IT’S POSTED AS “SLANDER”!

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think my favorite part is the Guillen is clearly looking away while the player, can’t remember who, has his eyes shut.

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that’s Guillen’s son.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 1, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

SO WHAT’S THE GAME DOING?

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Did I miss thE CAPS MEMO??

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

WORK COMPUTER PROGRAM IS CAPS SENSITIVE AND REQUIRES ALL CAPS. SO, HENCE THE YELLING. SORRY, IT’S THIS GAME ONLY.

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I THINK YOU SHOULD JUST GO WITH IT AND BE OUTRAGED/ECSTATIC ABOUT EVERYTHING!!!!!

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

tHAT WORKS TOO!!! LET’S GO TRIBE!

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

NOTHING. END OF THE 1ST. WHY ARE WE YELLING?

by RachelAnn on Jul 1, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, that make a wish clip was awesome. huh?

by Roger Dorn on Jul 1, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah it was pretty cool.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can’t watch much, just wanted to check in on a game thread. What’s the zeitgeist around here these days?

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 1, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Just a big discussion about how we anathematize posters who try to act supercilious with their vocabulary.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

waiting for CC to be traded. following prospects and (though not anymore) the Euro Cup.

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 1, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I only got to watch the final, and that on replay late Sunday night after accidentally finding out what happened. Great game, though. I’m sort of glad I knew because I would have been really pissed at Germany for the first 70 minutes otherwise, when they seemed disinterested in playing.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 1, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Casey Double. We have to hand it to him, he is really doing everything he can for this team, maximizing his trade value here at the end

by Roger Dorn on Jul 1, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

We’ll always have that.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

CASEY BLAKE IS THE BEST PLAYER ON THE TEAM GUYS OMG HE’S SO AWESOME!!!! LUV!

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

dON’T GET ME STARTED ON HOW STUPID THIS PROGRAM IS. IT’S REALLY STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really hope Wedge sits Delluci for awhile and goes with Francisco/Grady/Choo/Gutz combo

by millionairesrow on Jul 1, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

6 Ks through 4.2 for Huff.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Now 7 through 5.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am pretty excited for his August and September starts in the bigs

by Roger Dorn on Jul 1, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lee
Laffey
Sowers
Parra
Huff

Sounds about right.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

If anything, I will enjoy watching all but one of those starts.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fausto will be back this year

by Roger Dorn on Jul 1, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m just talking mid-July.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ken Williams did well with the Danks trade. Amidst our own struggles, I’ve forgotten why Williams is so widely loathed in the first place. Nevertheless I’m rooting for that Chris Carter guy to become a monster.

by jhon on Jul 1, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I dunno maybe it’s a stopped watch thing

by jhon on Jul 1, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

MORE COMMENTS ABOUT THE GAME

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Hawk is annoying.

LGT's resident beer connaisseur.

by LGT Patrick on Jul 1, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

So is Swisher’s facial hair

by Roger Dorn on Jul 1, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOW THANKS GUYS THAT WAS VERY TOUCHING, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT!

(in all seriousness, being stuck here sucks. Thanks for helping)

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crede is a HOF from both a defensive and offensive standpoint, and to argue would make you a simpleton.

2 on for the Pale Hose. 1 out. Swisher batting.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Swisher’s beard doubles. Umpires rule Swisher must continue at-bat. He walks.

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blake and Swisher’s beard have passionate tryst.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

beards.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe it’s just one beard, which wouldn’t make it a tryst but…well, you know.

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s really odd how well Thome has hit our lefties this season

by millionairesrow on Jul 1, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

VOLTAIRE: Now bases loaded.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a confession to make guys. At the beginning of the season, I started to grow my “World Series beard”. I stuck it out for a while, but I think it is time for a change. It is too damn hot out for a beard, and the Indians are losing too much. My face is nice and soft now. I am not gonna say I jinxed the season, but today is the first day of the rest of the season.

LGT's resident beer connaisseur.

by LGT Patrick on Jul 1, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I did that in September of 2007.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like I jumped the gun by starting in March.

LGT's resident beer connaisseur.

by LGT Patrick on Jul 1, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, Brad Snyder (in play, run[s])ed just now. Updates as they come.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Singled in Gomez. 2-0.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

from the verb ‘to in play, run(s)’, which i believe comes from greek…

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you say “numb nuts”?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strikeout, end of 2, 1-0 sox.

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

THAT DOESN’T SEEM AS BAD AS IT COULD HAVE BEEN

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

OMG I JUST LOOKED AT DAVID HUFF’S MINOR LEAGUE NUMBERS AND HE IS AMAZING

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 1, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions  

What’s your excuse?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

For the caps lock, I mean.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh. i didn’t even realize.

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 1, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

IF YOU TYPE IN CAPS YOU HAVE TO HELP ME WORK

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO THAT?

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM STOP BEING DIFFICULT!

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I WILL FORCE THE ISSUE

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

GO THROUGH THE ORDERS AND PICKED OUT ALL THE DUPLICATES

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I LIKE HOW YOU USED PAST TENSE TO LET ME KNOW I ALREADY DID MY JOB. which means i can use caps

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

YES IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO USE PROPER GRAMMER IN ALL CAPS. YOU FAILED AT YOUR JOB, BTW, I FOUND ANOTHER DUP

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate the Damron family, and I hate Kennywood

by millionairesrow on Jul 1, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

ME TOO

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Gutz needs to step into his swing a little more. Looks like he just opens his hips without letting his legs generate any power

by Roger Dorn on Jul 1, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

It would help if he actually swung at strikes—hard to be effective when you’ve taken two strikes (same for Grady).

by peter m on Jul 1, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I’d like to see the team as a whole be more aggressive early in counts, especially when the pitch is a fastball. I am just pointing out what I perceive to be an issue with some of Frank’s swings

by Roger Dorn on Jul 1, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

No argument. It’s hard to know where to start with this offense.

by peter m on Jul 1, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

YOU KNOW WHAT I LIKE? SEAGULLS

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Flocks of them?

I ran so far away…

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

FLOCKS…SINGLE GULLS…..WHATEVER…..I JUST DIG THEM

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

oooh now that is stuck in my head. Not cool.

by RachelAnn on Jul 1, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember when Dave Winfield hit one with a baseball in Toronto? That was the weirdest situation I’ve ever seen—they were going to arrest him!

by peter m on Jul 1, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHY WOULD A SCHOOL REFAX AN ORDER FROM MARCH IN AGAIN TODAY AND MAKE ME WASTE TIME REALIZING THIS AND CANCELLING IT?

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I WORKED FOR A SCHOOL SUPPLY COMPANY TOO, WHAT’S THE NAME OF YOUR COMPANY?

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

IT’S A SUMMER JOB TO PAY FOR SCHOO.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

NOW YOU HAVE TO TELL ME THE NAME OF YOURS

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

DUDE I WORKED THERE A FEW YEARS AGO FOR THREE SUMMERS IN A ROW I WORKED AT THE ONE IN MANSFIELD

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s where I’m working now! Crazy!

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

David Huff has given up a 2-run homer. The dream is over. Lake County awaits.

8 Ks through 5.1.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Although really, his last three batters have been walk, home run, single.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Lake County, I am heading out to catch a game there in a week and a half, on Mandays, it is $1 dog/$1 beer night

by millionairesrow on Jul 1, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

which days are Mandays?

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Every day in Man Town.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

is Man Town where that picture of Ozzie from above was taken?

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

In my head, I can’t decide the persona of Man Town.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still haven’t made it to a game out there yet. I’m really mad at myself.

Maybe Rosario’s debut.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve been waiting for an Indians off day and a home Monday game to get out there this year, Indians are off on the 14th, so it’s time for me to go and try to get drunk off the 10 oz. beers and full off the undercooked hotdogs

by millionairesrow on Jul 1, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

This sounds brilliant.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

K

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

9 Ks through 6 for Huff. Is he on a specific pitch count? Because he’s at 88.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

see Tribe, that’s how defense is played. back to back examples.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

DESCRIBE PRETTY PLEASE

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quentin nice catch, Crede diving stop, Crede diving stop.

3 outs.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

make that b2b2b

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

5 pitches? Come on. Make him work.

by millionairesrow on Jul 1, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

He’s throwing strike one, strike two. Taking pitches for no particular reason isn’t effective against a guy like that. What they need to do is have an idea—what’s he throwing, where can you hit it. The Indians seem to have a team full of hitters who have no ability to think along with the pitchers they face.

by peter m on Jul 1, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Although, in fairness, some of those outs were hit solidly enough. I’m talking more generally about the Indians’ hitting over the whole year.

by peter m on Jul 1, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

An honest question: is a hard hit ball hit right at somebody any better than any other out? Wedge seems to harp on this constantly like it’s a given, but it really doesn’t make complete sense to me

by millionairesrow on Jul 1, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the box score, no. But bad luck is certainly better than no talent. Bad luck can change.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s the “hitting in bad luck” argument—eventually, so the argument goes, some of those will fall in or find holes over the course of the season. Statistically, that does seem to be true, but it doesn’t make it any more fun to watch when you’re looking at them hit balls right at people.

by peter m on Jul 1, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I HAVE DECIDED 12 HOURS TODAY IS ENOUGH. IF YOU SEE ME AGAIN TONIGHT IT WILL BE WITHOUT CAPS, MOSTLY

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s okay. Indians caps are nice.

by peter m on Jul 1, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that was Blake’s ball.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

fire not accepting free outs

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Just made it in tonight ladies and gents…Yay for Huff. Boo for Sowers last night. And nice miss by Shoppach .

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Blake should have taken it.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shh. A rival GM may be reading this.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

CASEY BLAKE IS CLUTCH

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I WAS REFERRING TO JAMES BLAKE EARLIER

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do teams playing ..446 baseball have rivals?

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Everyone is out to get us.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blake is a lousy third baseman. He’s a useful player, if he use him right—play several positions, all that stuff. If the Indians stop pretending he’s Mike Schmidt they’ll get more value out of him.

by peter m on Jul 1, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

what does “PFX” tell us on gameday? i know that’s not a new thing, but haven’t every really paid much attention

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Trevor Crowe’s 3-3 with a 2B so far tonight

by APV on Jul 1, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Was just going to post that. Get the guy to Buffalo already. Jason Tyner will understand.

Or, trade him now while somebody likes him.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stephen Head is 3-4 with two doubles and a HR

by APV on Jul 1, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he’s even older than Crowe!

by peter m on Jul 1, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s actually 2 months younger than Crowe

by APV on Jul 1, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

and check out his picture. awesome.

by APV on Jul 1, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh well. I guess I should have looked it up.

by peter m on Jul 1, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chisenhall has been getting his knocks the last few nights.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Crowe Apologist

by Roger Dorn on Jul 1, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I tried that out as a Halloween costume this past year…it didn’t work out so well

by APV on Jul 1, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha

I don’t actually think that, I was just amused by the Minors thread

by Roger Dorn on Jul 1, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can I be the Sizemore Apologist?

My job is pretty cushy.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, I am definitely a Jhonny apologist, just maybe not THE Jhonny apologist

by Roger Dorn on Jul 1, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Crowe keeps hitting, maybe he’s athletic enough to fill an organizational need, transition to the infield, and play second base?

Wait a minute…

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

At how many ball fours will Casey swing?

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

But Rick Manning just commended him for not wanting to take a walk. You must be wrong, sir.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since Blake typically takes the first three or four pitches, this discussion is surreal!

by peter m on Jul 1, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sorry to not be privy to Manning’s wisdom, but I’m working with Hawk tonight.

He gone.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why, exactly, does Crappey Blake have the green light on 3-0?

by JulioBernazard on Jul 1, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Choo interrupts the tedium with a hit. But, Garko restores order.

by peter m on Jul 1, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Choo was just kidding. See.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Choo, by the way, gets a hit off a lefty, previously thought to be a physical impossibility.

by peter m on Jul 1, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dammit, Fat Outfielder

by Roger Dorn on Jul 1, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, at least it’s not dull.

by peter m on Jul 1, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

All I’m asking for these next two weeks are:

1) No injury to Blake, with him at least treading water. A walkoff homerun or 7-RBI Sportscenter-esque moment would be nice.

2) Byrd to pitch 6 innings and give up 3 runs or less in each of his next two starts.

3) Sabathia to not let the door hit him on the way out.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I can get behind this.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is not a team that can get picked off. There are limits to my sympathy.

by jhon on Jul 1, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

And what are the bounds of your pity?

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chacon went to far. No pity there, obviously.

You know the message. Even if they’re overrated, any lapse of fundamentals-a “little thing” screwed up-by a poor team is deeply troubling. It’s not that I hate Choo because he gets picked off, but should we lose 1-nil this one’s on us.

by jhon on Jul 1, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

and, whaddya know

by jhon on Jul 1, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

So if this is a 1-0 loss does that FRUSTRATE Shapiro into clarity?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Actually, this is his Blueprint to Frustration.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

New site header.

Proud supporter of the Cleveland.

by Brad D on Jul 1, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Comeback starts now.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m with you. This is too dull to be tolerated any further. Gutierrez will suddenly rediscover his swing and we’re off!

by peter m on Jul 1, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shoppach! Yard work!

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 1, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Are my eyes deceiving me? A run? Can it be?

by peter m on Jul 1, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Kelly could hit 25 home runs given regular playing time over a whole season

by Roger Dorn on Jul 1, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

eh…

LGT's resident beer connaisseur.

by LGT Patrick on Jul 1, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

he’s a future hall of famer

by sorrento to cooperstown on Jul 1, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Needs a beard.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, and strikeout 200 times and hit .230.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

So he’d fit right in

by Roger Dorn on Jul 1, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’d be like Adam Dunn!

... except with 15 less home runs and .100 points less of OBP.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

ShopVac > doubly-injured Victor

by JulioBernazard on Jul 1, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

The CHW radio guys said that ShopVac glared at the ump at home at the end of his trot. Is that true?

by JulioBernazard on Jul 1, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

The video is up on MLB. I didn’t see any glaring.

by RachelAnn on Jul 1, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see a Grady steal coming on…

by jhon on Jul 1, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

no time. nooo time.

by jhon on Jul 1, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

come the fuck on

by Fios on Jul 1, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Grady got “picked off” on a missed balk call plus jamey carroll punchout

by joeee on Jul 1, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

AJ is 11/ 68 in throwing guys out. They know it. I know it. Everybody knows it. Still, there’s a runner’s advantage and we screwed up.

by jhon on Jul 1, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m no expert on balk calls – remember an ump in pony league who got fired for leaning heavily on it – but if you’re on the rubber and step toward home plate, you have to deliver.

by joeee on Jul 1, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

They always reference a 45 degree plane that your leg can’t cross otherwise, you have to go home with it

by Roger Dorn on Jul 1, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just the shear fact of Wedge getting pissed is QED

by joeee on Jul 1, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hard to tell after seeing the 1 replay

by millionairesrow on Jul 1, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Balks are weird.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

random observation: Best AL pitcher nobody talks about: Scott Baker.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I will counter with Duchscherer

by millionairesrow on Jul 1, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Duchscherer’s not real. Baker is Brad Radke II.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

But I will agree that Duch has been unbelievable this year. So unbelievable, I’m not a believer.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m a little torn. Baker strikes out more guys, but the Duke has pitched 20 more innings. Baker walks less, but Duke gives up less home runs and gets more GBs. Baker has a .293 BABIP, Duke a .230.

I would add Garza into the conversation but I’m not sure he competes with these numbers.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Needs to surpress the HR, but he’s damn good.

by jhon on Jul 1, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m torn on Huff. He’s been a groundball pitcher this year. I hope he’s more Laffey than Sowers.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

WAY TO GO CLIFTON

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope 2008 Clifton is the Clifton we’ll see the next two seasons in Cleveland, if not more, and that he’s not having his Esteban Loaiza year.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh… why’d you have to say that dude? hadn’t even thought of that comparison.

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Dye better than Thome

by jhon on Jul 1, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Dye is hilarious. Remember that chick who he kept teasing at the Prog last year? Hilarious.

by joeee on Jul 1, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forgot about that. He went above and beyond the call of duty in getting that pretty girl a souvenir.

by jhon on Jul 1, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crede is a machine

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Yea, that was legit.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was a splendid pick.

by joeee on Jul 1, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

man is Jhonny frustrating.

by ASP on Jul 1, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Peralta back to sucking

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

His OBP was over .300 to start the night? That just tickles my fancy.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Value Increasing Exponentially!

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Gameday shows Danks as having lost 5-6 mph on his FB by this point

by jhon on Jul 1, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Which makes him Barry Zito. And we know how that turned out.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well at least we can count on Casey Blake, right?

by joeee on Jul 1, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

anyone think the twins woulda taken Gutz for Garza?

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Nah. Woulda had to have been Asdrubal.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

now that’s a trade i would have made. even if we wouldn’t have had an OF this year.

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 1, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nearly, but I doubt it. Gutz & Sowers might’ve done it.

by jhon on Jul 1, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh shit.

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

other than sowers sucks and garza is looking like an ace?

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

It wouldn’t have been sensible to swap out advanced pitching prospects,
and out rotation was pretty full to start the year.

Truthfully, I’m talking out my arse on the above guess. Just a fantasy.

by jhon on Jul 1, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not that nearly at all, the more I think about it. That was all about upside, or something.

by jhon on Jul 1, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sowers after 2006 would have been soooo risky for the FO, but I guess they should have looked at Zack Duke from a year ealier and said, “Yea, that’s probably what’s going to happen” and act accordingly. But that’s hindsight as well.

And I’m not suggesting Sowers won’t be useful. But he’s not Jamie Moyer, and he’s not pitching in Safeco.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Garza deal was this past offseason. It’s kind of crazy to trade highly advanced pitching prospects.

That’s why the Hamilton / Volquez deal is so odd. I am not sure who won it, but I think I credit the Reds there.

by jhon on Jul 1, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t. Hamilton’s RBI total is insane.

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really??? RBI total?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

he’s so far ahead of everyone else that you can’t look at RBI as worthless in his case.

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

No you can’t. But it’s extremely incidental. There are guys on base when he gets hits. He has nothing to do with that.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

he’s really encouraging in the on-deck circle…

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. I’m definitely going with Volquez, both for this season and in the long run.

Imagine Danks & Volquez in Texas. They screwed up.

by jhon on Jul 1, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

and Chris Young.

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

and Sammy Sosa…too late?

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Hamilton’s going to keep this up, so it’s close… but mostly because of the injury risk in pitchers. Assuming no injuries, it’s not even a contest between Hamilton and Edison.

by jhon on Jul 1, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Volquez is two years younger. He gets a K in 26% of PAs and has GB rate of 52%.

Josh Hamilton, while amazing, has not put up an OBP past .370 in this year or last. He does play great D though.

I would say neither team lost, but I like Volquez a bit more than Hamilton.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way. Going into this year, it Delmon was stories above Gutz on most people’s list.

The +Sowers is intriguing.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Justin’s pitch count got outta hand again.

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions  

So goes the way of young pitchers. All the more reason to marvel at what Fausto stepped in and did last year.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

so, the FO is being extra super careful w/ Fausto at this point, right? i mean, how bad can a hip really be? if we’re in the thick of a division race, isn’t he back already?

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe, but this is the kind of non-arm injury Fausto probably benefits from this year by keeping his innings down.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

no question. i think it’s a great move…keep his stressful innings down after a really high count last year, let him get his body fully healed before throwing him back out there. i’m just thinking that the only options are a.) extra rest, b.) bo jackson, and i’m hoping like hell for a.)

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least Joey G didn’t let him get up near 120 again. Hilariously bad managing

by Roger Dorn on Jul 1, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh…it was a blowout. Not stressful. But still, I’d be more careful. He’s 22.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t let Joba sniff 100 pitches in a game this year if I were coaching, I don’t care if it’s 20-0

by Roger Dorn on Jul 1, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

it it was 20-0, he’d be out after 60 pitches.

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I watched the 3rd inning, and all of that damage in his PC (the walks and such) must have happened early. He gave up a leadoff “single” to Young (Young bounces it in front of home plate, Posada bounces it past Giambi). With Young moving to second on the E, they pitch around Hamilton on 4 pitches. He then strikes out the next two batters swinging, one of whom was Milton Bradley (having a better year than Hamilton). Then I think the next batter flew out.

A pretty impressive inning from Justin, actually.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hawk almost coaxed that ball outta here

by Roger Dorn on Jul 1, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

it’s really neck-and-neck whom i hate more…hawk or dellucci

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That’s disgusting. Hawk is loathsome for so many reasons. Dellucci just sucks for the two most recent years you’ve known him.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

but dellucci’s suck affects me in a much more visceral, intense, personal manner. hawk’s suck is sort of just a given at this point. i’m not arguing career suck , b/c hawk’s is clearly 100, just where they both sit now on the suck-o-meter

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could stand to be in a room with Dellucci. I just can’t make the comparison between the two.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d eat a Pizza with the Looch. No doubt about it.

by jhon on Jul 1, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

and talk about Justin!

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would be completely unable to smack the sh*t out of him with a slice, sorry.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

*to resist the urge to smack…

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are aware that Hawk chose to retire because he refused to move to Cleveland and play for the Indians right?

by Roger Dorn on Jul 1, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, he can have dellucci’s ABs as far as i’m concerned

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear Hawk less frequently than I see a Dellucci base hit, and I still wonder why anybody would want to hear that. It’s a disgrace to the Chicago network and baseball fans everywhere that Hawk’s can be the conduit through which a city full of young fans learn the game.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jamey Carroll. JC. Jesus Christ

by Roger Dorn on Jul 1, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I didn’t realize how good Danks has been this year. He’s legit.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions  

3rd in AL in ERA but 11 fewer innings than Cliff

by palcal on Jul 1, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok. Score a run and get Clifford the W. Walk, gap double.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions  

TAMPA BEATS BOSTON AGAIN

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions  

THE GIANTS WIN THE PENNANT.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

IT GETS BY BUCKNER.

There's always next year...and the next year...and the next year...

by HireRockyColavito on Jul 1, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I DON’T BELIEVE, WHAT I JUST SAW.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I QUIT. No, seriously. I quit.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

excellent.

I’m out. Hammy comes in on the car radio from 400 miles away.

by jhon on Jul 1, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

tied after 8
Indians 2-7
White Sox 5-4

SSS but Sox are beatable

by palcal on Jul 1, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

did Clifton just mow through the 8th?

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

We just need to get Jhonny to the plate

by Roger Dorn on Jul 1, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

what is words you thought you would never utter in your life?

There's always next year...and the next year...and the next year...

by HireRockyColavito on Jul 1, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Larry the Cable guy is America’s greatest comedian, now and forever.”

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Betancourt warming as well

by palcal on Jul 1, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Now that’s warning track power.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ll say it. Thome ends it.

by ASP on Jul 1, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

did you see who is coming in?

by palcal on Jul 1, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Betancourt probably, which is a recipe for a homer against this lineup.

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Juan Uribe coming in?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

another standing o for clifton on this one

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Other nick needs to reply to me upthread.

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

So is Debbie Hunt still at SS?

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm. I am the worst person with names you’ll ever meet, and can’t even tell you my deskmates for 100% sure. SHould I look it up in the directory?

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

She used to be the Customer Service uber-manager. She liked me. It’s actually embarassing how well I knew a lot of those old ladies that work in customer service.

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll look for her tomorrow.

So I take it you’ll understand what it means when I say the entire computer system broke on June 30th and didn’t get fixed until July 1 at noon?

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes I do. I remember when the computer system would break, it was awesome. Is it still some crappy old DOS system?

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh no, we’ve “upgraded” to Oracle! You have no idea how much it sucks. The full-time employees tell me this.

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

When I worked there it was an old code based DOS system, which are generally unbreakable, and it would crash weekly. I imagine the Oracle system probably crashes a lot more often but remembering how bad the old one was, it probably is better, as impossible as that may seem.

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I challenge you to a duel over which is more poorly constructed and harder to use.

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’d accept that duel. while we’re talking duel, perhaps this would be the appropriate place to mention that i took an immense amount of pride in the fact that led the numbers almost every week i was there my second and third years.

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I, alas, can no longer do that now that they put me on phones. I was leading my first two weeks before they switched me.

So if I ask about the legendary NickFantana, I’ll get stories?

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not his name.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well of course not, every legend has an alias.

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

What?? Do you guys play a lot of Oregon Trail on floppies?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also work the phones. Best call so far was an elderly female employee from the Mt. Joy, PA branch who had a heavy British accent and wanted to order triominoes games for the “old folks” back in Britain.

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

for her nephew andy marte?

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh man i totally should have asked her that

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah she totally would have gotten it, and you two would have just laughed, and laughed, and laughed, and then whoops look at the time, you’ve missed lunch.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had a woman place an 150 item order at 10:15. Lunch is at 10:30.

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just looked her up in the directory. Yes, she’s still here. Probably like 20 feet away from me, but i don’t know who she is.

by Voltaire on Jul 2, 2008 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would say you should ask if she remembers me but it’s been a while. I think my last summer there was 2003.

by NickFantana on Jul 2, 2008 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

“yeah, i know him from this online site where we go to talk about the indians, it’s like a giant chat room but with statistical analysis.”

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 2, 2008 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, that’d be great. You guys aren’t creepy at all. Totally not.

by Jay on Jul 2, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I seriously was sitting at my desk realizing that it is impossible to bring Nick up, because I will have to explain how I know him.

by Voltaire on Jul 2, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Betancourt it is.

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

can we wager on who hits the winning homer?

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Quentin.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I”m going with Dye.

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

gameday makes it look like it was VERY close to being quentin

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

is thome way too obvious? i guess the problem will be getting to thome w/ out dingers from quentin or dye

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

THAT AND he’s hit them off of our lefties.

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I’ll take Thome. We never learn.

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2008: let the hate flow through you.

by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oooo, off Perez? Hmmm. I guess we’re going into extras.

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2008: let the hate flow through you.

by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just don’t want to hear:

1) “STRETCH.”

2) “PUT IT ON THE BOARD.”

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Hurray. Another no-decision for Cliff. >:(

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2008: let the hate flow through you.

by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions  

9.5 or 11.5 back…I can’t really decide.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Either way, I’d better have an image ready…

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

11.5…how can they not snag this W for clifton? again

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

?

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

i actually have no idea…i’m out of language to discuss this team…

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yay Rangers!

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

there goes my pick as well.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Perez time.

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2008: let the hate flow through you.

by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I now go with Thome, as he’s facing a lefty.

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

it bugs me that thome gets booed in cleveland. just thought i’d throw that out there before he ends tonight’s game.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too. Brick disagrees.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

guy was offered, what, an extra year and like $17mm more to go to philly? how do you say no to that?

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly, but if people wanna boo, then so what…

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i just feel like he gave cleveland a lot of great years and a lot of excitement. if the tribe had met the phils, or come close, he’s still wearing chief wahoo. seems to be an unfair boo…and cheapens the quality years/relationship w/ fans he had in c-town.

and if they didn’t boo him…my life would be exactly no different…

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with this entire post.

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has he been to the playoffs since 01?

by mjschaefer on Jul 1, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

08?

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m actually hoping the Tigers get there instead of the Sox.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’m really indifferent on that issue.

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s look at his stated reasons:

1) I want to get back to the playoffs. Well, the Indians made it back to the playoff before Jim Thome did.

2) What am I going to tell my newborn daughter after f years in Cleveland (when Cleveland wouldn’t guarantee him a sixth season) when I have to move her right before she starts school? Well, Jim, the same thing you told her after three years in Philly and three years in CHI.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey, my parents moved me right before i started school

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

And NOW look at you.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guess I’m too dull to realize I’m an example which doesn’t support my argument.

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

my point…if he would have just said “It’s an extra year and more money” those of us that know he left as a free agent and wasn’t traded (you’d be surprised how many “fans” think the latter) would at least be able to respect him for being honest.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oooooo time for another co-worker story! He told me: “If you could get back any two players the Indians traded away, who would they be? For me, they’d be Manny and Thome.”

I made sure to stare at him silently for ten seconds, then say “neither of them were traded.”

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goddamn.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

the “fans thinking he was traded” doesn’t jive with the boo’ing, to my mind. but that’s neither here nor there, really.

i hear you on the honesty thing, but i think people who pay attention were able to read the tea leaves on jimbo’s reasoning. i certainly can’t fault him for leaving for more dough and what he thought was a better shot at the playoffs. not really his fault that the phils didn’t work out on the field.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

We did learn, though, that his wife is his rock.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

O YEA

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Everyone’s running in different directions on the field.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

That’s what I like to see.

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Casey is gonna have his Sportscenter moment.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

THERE.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

KC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

say hello to your best 2008 cleveland indian…someone hand me that toaster as i get into the bathtub…

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sizemore?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

simple math shows that casey’s RISP, beard and grit add .068 to his .811 OPS, making for a total of .879…size is only at .878. sorry. it’s math.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gosh, well if it’s math….

I was looking at OPS+. And taking out CC.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

FWIW, best hitters by OPS+, regardless of SSS. I’ll just go down to 95.

CC
Laffey
Sizemore
Choo
Francisco
Blake
Fasano
Carroll/Peralta/Shoppach (tie)

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol at fasano.

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know! 107!

And a great guy to eat pizza with! Who knew?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

common mistake.

you’re right, of course, that lee and cc are the best right now, maybe followed by laffey before you get to position players. i was talking position players…and answer this seriously: today, who would you rather have at the dish with 2 out and a man on second in a tie game right now? size or blake? i’m scared to answer…

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

A thousand times Sizemore. The RISP all regresses at some point.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

which, admittedly, doesn’t make that person our best player, but you get the point. we live through the looking glass, clearly, when blake is near the top of our position player MVP list

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow. People kind of called that one.

I’ll take Lincecum.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

There you go….Sportscenter. Goal.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

But wait a minute. If we win tonight, that means CC has to lose tomorrow.

Boy I’m just dousing this parade.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

C.C. wins. Ups his value.

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

But that means we take 2 out of 3, and that means we gain ground.

We’ve been over this. I’m a wet blanket.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, and I’ll stand by my “Shap is smarter than that” satement.

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope you’re right, cuz rooting for a loss here would just be a dick move on my part. LGT.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

.... but I had some nice 11.5 pictures picked out.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

SOrry, I can’t keep track of who wants us to lose and who wants us to win.

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want clarity.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say we can beat the Sox and still get it and still trade C.C.

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. I just don’t want to toy around.

Let’s just both re-read last night’s thread, nod, and agree to just slightly disagree again.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man, I really can’t keep track. i didn’t know i had this conversation with you. sorry!

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember: I’ve got the LaPorta avatar.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

At this rate, C.C. and Blake traded to Heaven for God might be possible.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

might have to throw in the Holy Spirit

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re the blanket Nick. LGT is the goofy guy.

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I’m protecting you. I don’t want that hottie in the black tank top to see you with pit stains.

See? I’m a great wing man.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

So the hottie is “keeping Sabathia” and the pit stains are a 2-1 series against the Sox?

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, that was a metaphor?

Uhh, yeah. I’m like Proust.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am the second-most preeminent Proust scholar of our time.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Mr. Fasano is my dad’s name…”

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Couldn’t decide with joke to go with, so I replied twice.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

All I’m saying is after we trade for LaPorta, change it to Proust.

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice time machine from everyone!!!

Yeah Casey

One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play

by new zealand tribe fan on Jul 1, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

are we setting up for a JoeBo-ning?

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Now THAT is raining on the parade.

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

who ties/wins it with a homer off of jobo? Crede, Swisher or Ramirez?

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

And how many all-caps posts will follow?

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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

we need a pick of a crazy guy under two blankets

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually see a 1-2-3 inning.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Garko and Shoppach keep it alive!

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

who is this guy coming in for CHI? never hearda him.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

who’ d they say?

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

OU grad says Hammy. This is his 4th appearance.

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Adam Russell.

The pride of North Olmstead, OH, says Hammy.

Traitor!

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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

6’8, 250 outta N. Olmsted apparently.

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ken Williams loves tall relievers.

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

insurance please.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Ok, Joe. Show me what you’re made of. Mind you, you pitched a scoreless inning last night.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

JoeBo, whaddaya know.

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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2008 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

1

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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

All I see is Borowski striking out Posada, and I can’t be mad.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

2

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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Hawk doesn’t know about that last call. Hawk is not an umpire.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

hawk is not an umpire…hawk is a nounhole

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a sleepy cat sitting on my lap.

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I do not like green eggs and ham?

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

His spirit, we’ll say. Which just hissed.

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh Christ.

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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

shit.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I would have so been all over Ramirez for dropping the bat like that.

You know. Had it not gone out.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

YOU ARE SOPPING WET!!!!!

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

how many blown saves is that? 17?

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

JoBo 6 out of 10 in saves

by palcal on Jul 1, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

i’ll be a sonuvabitch

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Old dog. Same tricks.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 1, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

i knew i shouldn’t have started looking for 9.5 pics.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Sucks

One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play

by new zealand tribe fan on Jul 1, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

fortunately after we get our next HR, JoBo won’t be around to blow it.

by palcal on Jul 1, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

what if he gives up another?

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I turned the volume down so I did not have to hear Hawk.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I have to listen to Sox games on the radio for that very reason

by Fios on Jul 1, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anybody see JoBo mouth “FUCK” on STO?

I'll regress to my career numbers if you do too!

by Fire Slider on Jul 1, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

No but I felt it.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he didn’t mouth it so much as he screamed it. Then he licked his hand. I hate that man.

I'll regress to my career numbers if you do too!

by Fire Slider on Jul 1, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ho boy.

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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

was francisco close?

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

hammy made it sound like it

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah he definitely was. sizemore or gutz are probably 50-50 to catch it.

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. It was 6 inches over the wall, and BF was a foot left of the spot. Plus, he was at the wall wayyy before the ball got there.

I'll regress to my career numbers if you do too!

by Fire Slider on Jul 1, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

woah, i’d prefer caps.

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

who’s warming or is this JoBo’s game to lose?

by palcal on Jul 1, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

AND SHELTON

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

AND SLIDER

I'll regress to my career numbers if you do too!

by Fire Slider on Jul 1, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one has beeen mentioned as of now.

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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wedge sticks with him til the death.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, don’t you have to DFA this guy like tomorrow? Who the hell are we kidding anymore?

by cheech99 on Jul 1, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

we’re kidding this guy.

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shoppach has sucked behind the dish this year.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

He really has. Especially in 9th innings and such.

I'll regress to my career numbers if you do too!

by Fire Slider on Jul 1, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least this feels like last year, right? RIGHT

LGT's resident beer connaisseur.

by LGT Patrick on Jul 1, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

This is like being in a head-on car crash at about 3 mph.

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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Precisely.

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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can see it coming, and there’s probably a way to stop it, but being so close leads you to want nothing more than to experience it.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is like being in a head-on car crash at about 80 mph, but in super slow motion.

I'll regress to my career numbers if you do too!

by Fire Slider on Jul 1, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Foul ball that was almost the ball game

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

STOP THAT HAMMY

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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

What was he doing?

I'll regress to my career numbers if you do too!

by Fire Slider on Jul 1, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Foul ball that was almost the ball game

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

You know who is really awful? Grady Sizemore. He doesn’t steal nearly enough bases. And his average is way below .300. His arm kind of sucks too.

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Totally Ks, too.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

why this overreaction at this moment?

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude, he’s awful. Take off the Shap blinders!!! We should be lucky to unload him for a reliever. Do you think the Sox would trade us Dotel for Sizemore?

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

think we could get Howry back for Size straight up?

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a chance. Give them Fausto, too. Unsustainable.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

See, there you go. That’s proper player valuation. Now if we can only lock up Blake long-term and get someone to take that light-hitting pansy Martinez off our hands we might have something.

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

oy

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

another loss

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Allgamebay.

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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Well. There’s the season.

I'll regress to my career numbers if you do too!

by Fire Slider on Jul 1, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

/daily season-ending white flag pronouncement.

I'll regress to my career numbers if you do too!

by Fire Slider on Jul 1, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sizemore was playing too deep

by palcal on Jul 1, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Think of it this way. You won’t wonder to yourself where you were when the Indians decided to blow it up for 2008. We’ll remember this for a while.

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t want to hear excited Hawk but I am still listening.

LGT's resident beer connaisseur.

by LGT Patrick on Jul 1, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Should the traveling secretary book CC’s flight to Arizona right now…...that’s where the Brewers are playing, right?

by harp1987 on Jul 1, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

before or after Manny beats him up?

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m going to lose faith in Shapiro if Blowski isn’t DFA’d tomorrow

by Fios on Jul 1, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

AAAUUUGGGGHHH FIRE 2008. I HATE THIS BLOODY SEASON.

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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey you’re a Marte fan, did you hear Hammy dig against him tonight? Said Blake was on the block, but that there was nobody to replace him, and that if you think Marte can play “then you haven’t been watching this club.”

I'll regress to my career numbers if you do too!

by Fire Slider on Jul 1, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

i heard that.

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe they’re right. Who knows. Anyway, he needs a chance.

I'll regress to my career numbers if you do too!

by Fire Slider on Jul 1, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously…might as well find out. or can we play CC at 3b b/w starts?

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Between what starts?

I'll regress to my career numbers if you do too!

by Fire Slider on Jul 1, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

tomorrow and his first start for the brewers…

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah…... like Marte has been given any shot at all…... but then with Blake “entrenched” at 3B, what do you expect…..

by harp1987 on Jul 1, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I was watching Underwear and Manning on STO. I’m not surprised. Hammy’s been down on Marte since Spring Training.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 1, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hammy can frig off as far as I’m concerned. Toeing the company line, exactly the kind of analysis I love to hear.

by supermarioelia on Jul 1, 2008 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

DeWayne Wise. Wow.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Does anybody think CC is not pitching tomorrow?

by palcal on Jul 1, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

tis possible.

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh he’ll pitch. It’ll be bittersweet.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was maybe the most awesome JoeBo-ning of the year. holy shit…what’s the number of that trucker school we saw on tv last night…

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I more appreciate his scoreless inning last night.

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

but we can’t DFA him after a shutout inning!

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wedge could announce the JoBo DFA in his post-game presser.

by palcal on Jul 1, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

MAKE ROOM FOR ELARTON!

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eric Wedge cannot look the other 24 players in the eye and tell them that Joe Borowski is going to pitch one more inning for this team. I don’t know who the fuck is running this team right now, but my god, thanks for the 45 saves and the 5+ ERA last year Joe, but it’s over.

by cheech99 on Jul 1, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Event that happened 11.5 billion years ago. When Joe Borowski was born.

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

JoeBo just hurt his trade value a hair.

by JulioBernazard on Jul 1, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

or this.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

RoTFL (amid the tears)

by JulioBernazard on Jul 1, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

RotFL (and crying, too)

by JulioBernazard on Jul 1, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you for this, I needed a laugh.

by Toxicadam on Jul 1, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is one thing that would make me not want to unload Casey:

if he went up to JoBo and punched him across the face.

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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Holy Christ, even poor Underwood looks exhausted and depressed.

I'll regress to my career numbers if you do too!

by Fire Slider on Jul 1, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

As always…it’s been real. See ya tomorrow :)

by xrickx on Jul 1, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Are Cliff and JoBo on speaking terms?

by palcal on Jul 1, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply actions  

are Cliff and anyone on the offense on speaking terms? do you think the starting pitchers leave flaming bags of shit on the doorsteps of the hitters’ lockers?

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

OMG THATS IT, THE FO HAS BEEN USING PC’S!!!! GET THEM MAC’S, STAT!

LGT's resident beer connaisseur.

by LGT Patrick on Jul 1, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

HEY
HEY
HEY
LET’S
GO
RAYS

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2008: let the hate flow through you.

by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2008 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

FIRE BASEBALL

I'll regress to my career numbers if you do too!

by Fire Slider on Jul 1, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Unscientific thread survey: Does Sabathia start for the Indians tomorrow?

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah. Last one. Chicago roadtrip, anyone?

I'll regress to my career numbers if you do too!

by Fire Slider on Jul 1, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah. Probably makes at least 3 more.

by ASP on Jul 1, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

he’s an indian through AS weekend

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s get an actual date pool going.

I say July 6th. Probably optimistic.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don’t think there’s any chance that Shapiro’s already been laying the groundwork and could finalize something in the next 18 hours?

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

definitiely a chance. pure gut instinct says it won’t get finalized yet though

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’ll take the over on 7/6. give me 7/10 he’s out the door.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s easy to take the over on something 5 days away.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

for the pool, i’ll go 7/3

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

At the completion of the eight-game Central tour, unless we lose the first four.

by odradek on Jul 1, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

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2008: let the hate flow through you.

by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe the FO has made a decision to wait until after this road trip is over. They wanted to give the team an ultimatum and see how they respond. So far, not so good.

by Toxicadam on Jul 1, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

So much for the ultimatum plan.

by odradek on Jul 1, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you have to lose, at least it was to the murderers row of ramirez-wise-o. cab

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

z

Can somebody link to this Brewers rumor that I’ve apparently missed? (Been out of town…)

I'll regress to my career numbers if you do too!

by Fire Slider on Jul 1, 2008 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

So when do we quit this JoeBo has anything left charade? Or at this point, are we just saying fuck it and not pretending like we should fix actual problems

by Roger Dorn on Jul 1, 2008 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

We’re trying to showcase him, but he doesn’t oblige.

by odradek on Jul 1, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

who are we fooling? showcase? the guy has been horrible for at least 2 years. if we can get a-rod’s autograph for him we should take it.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 1, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s all a part of this fscking Wedge-logic. You know, the kind where Blake starts everyday while Marte rots on the bench…where Jhonny plays SS despite having the range of my grandmother (who’s dead)...running JoBlow out there when he couldn’t strike out that same grandmother.

I’d rant more but my puter is flaking out.

by doowop on Jul 1, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Should he have pitched Kobayashi? Maybe Bauer?

by odradek on Jul 1, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

“And this also,” said Marlow suddenly, “has been one of the dark places of the earth.”

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s almost poetic how this game turned out. Our “last chance” to be a serious contender and we had terrific starting pitching, no offense and a blown save. Sums up the whole seasons, right there.

by Toxicadam on Jul 1, 2008 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

The Indians must lead the league in runs scored with two outs (wild exaggeration, I’m sure).

I was thinking in the tenth inning that even Ambiorix was known to have thrown a one-two-three inning every so often. Every month or so. But not Joe, apparently.

Think how much more this would have hurt if the Tribe was within four games of the Sox in September. This wasn’t as bad as the grand slam to Torii Hunter, I don’t think.

Besides, if a blind squirrel finds an acorn on occasion, maybe Franklin could get a two-out hit against a righthander with runners in scoring position. I’ve heard it is possible.

by odradek on Jul 1, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

sleepy cat gives me as disgusted look

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I think it’s also high time for First Merit Bank to make some new radio commercials. Like, tomorrow.

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2008: let the hate flow through you.

by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2008 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

i love ‘em, but maybe i have a sick sense of humor

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, don’t get me wrong: black humor is my favorite.

I laugh harder and harder every time “Indians…awesome” comes on.

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2008: let the hate flow through you.

by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

we are sorry the bullpen sucks

by wendigo on Jul 1, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

DO we need a decompression thread? This one is murdering my computer

by NickFantana on Jul 1, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Sounds good. I need bed, though

by Voltaire on Jul 1, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

revisited.

ok see you next year.

by wendigo on Jul 1, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Goodnight, everybody.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 1, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

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