Game Thread: July 11, 2008
Tampa Bay Rays @ Cleveland Indians
Tampa Bay at Cleveland, 7:05 PM (STO)
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For the record, I had my 2 pics ready to come in here with once i saw the lineup. of course, someone beat me to it.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on
Jul 11, 2008 6:50 PM EDT
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Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on
Jul 11, 2008 6:47 PM EDT
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Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on
Jul 11, 2008 6:49 PM EDT
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is Gutz on the roster? why the hell is Dellucci playing
by Gradyforpresident on
Jul 11, 2008 6:55 PM EDT
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shhhh. He’s concentrating on his Dominos
by jhon on
Jul 11, 2008 7:04 PM EDT
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even in this lost season, i think i die a little inside every time Dellucci suits up.
by DontCallMeJoey on
Jul 11, 2008 7:20 PM EDT
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it’s ridiculous. we need to know if gutz will ever hit enough to be a starter. dellucci is bait.
by Gradyforpresident on
Jul 11, 2008 7:21 PM EDT
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the guy is worse than bait…he’s chum. dump him out of the boat, he stinks
by DontCallMeJoey on
Jul 11, 2008 7:26 PM EDT
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there’s going to be no one here is there
by Gradyforpresident on
Jul 11, 2008 7:00 PM EDT
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wow those didn’t work too well
by Gradyforpresident on
Jul 11, 2008 7:01 PM EDT
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figures. i missed it.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on
Jul 11, 2008 7:37 PM EDT
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I want to see Tampa take the East as much as the next guy-I fume inside just thinking about the Red Sox, but I’ll voice a little secret: Tampa’s lineup-outside of the young Longoria and to a lesser extent Pena—really stinks. They have the pitching but not the bats to hold down the Red Sox all season. Winning the wildcard would be a stunning overachievement.
And in several hours the Tribe will have beaten them again.
by jhon on
Jul 11, 2008 7:03 PM EDT
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Lets Go Tribe
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on
Jul 11, 2008 7:04 PM EDT
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let’s have another great start, Kkkliff.
by Toxicadam on
Jul 11, 2008 7:05 PM EDT
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Wow I’m slow on the KKKliff…I just got it and I am stone cold sober.
Still an Ohio boy through and through!
by TribeLoverInNewYork on
Jul 11, 2008 7:16 PM EDT
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ichiro is being paid 17 million? wow the mariners are dumb
by Gradyforpresident on
Jul 11, 2008 7:09 PM EDT
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I always thought that Ichiro would look nice leading off for the Tribe and playing right field until he made that stupid comment about Cleveland last year.
Still an Ohio boy through and through!
by TribeLoverInNewYork on
Jul 11, 2008 7:14 PM EDT
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that and he just doesn’t care that much about trying hard at baseball
by DontCallMeJoey on
Jul 11, 2008 7:15 PM EDT
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Who cares? Effort is hardly the equal of talent.
Proud supporter of the Cleveland.
by fwembt on
Jul 12, 2008 12:29 AM EDT
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Talent without effort is useless.
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by mauichuck on
Jul 12, 2008 9:33 AM EDT
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Yes, it sort of was. My main point is that a talented player can still be effective without a supreme effort. A player who puts forth supreme effort but has little talent will be deifid by the media and essentially useless on the field.
Proud supporter of the Cleveland.
by fwembt on
Jul 12, 2008 6:07 PM EDT
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I think this is tremendously wrong or at least vastly over-simplified. You’re talking about appearing to make an effort on an individual play. That is only a tiny amount of the effort that goes into being a ballplayer.
What appears to the naked eye to be “talent” is very often the product of an immense amount of effort, honed over many years. If there’s one thing I’m sure of, it’s that the top raw talents do not in fact rise to the top of the game, but rather only those who devote themselves tirelessly to making the most of their talent.
by Jay on
Jul 13, 2008 7:21 PM EDT
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My argument is that players who rely simply on effort will never, ever make the impact of a more talented player who does not exrt as much effort on a given play. That is vastly over-simplified but, in the day of ESPN, isn’t everything?
Proud supporter of the Cleveland.
by fwembt on
Jul 17, 2008 6:57 PM EDT
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Sort of a pointless argument.
There is no “purely on effort” because there’s nobody who’s totally lacking in talent.
How much talent does it take to make up for X amount of less effort? Quite a bit more than most assume.
by Jay on
Jul 17, 2008 9:07 PM EDT
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I think we are discussing different effort here. You would point to Manny and say that he gives a tremendous amount of effort to get where he is. (And he does). I would say that Manny’s talent enables him to not have to xert himself on day by day basis on the scale that someone like John McDonald has to, just to keep a job.
But yes, this is pretty pointless.
Proud supporter of the Cleveland.
by fwembt on
Jul 18, 2008 10:26 PM EDT
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And I would say, Manny reportedly has worked on his hitting as much as or more than any other ballplayer alive — and you have no way of separating his talent from his work with your naked eye.
You think you’re seeing talent, but in reality, you have absolutely no idea.
by Jay on
Jul 19, 2008 3:12 PM EDT
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You are missing the point here. I am saying that Manny (just for example) does not have to exert, from game to game, the sort of effort of a John McDonald or Jody Gerut. I know that Manny works extremely hard on his hitting (you can read that anywhere)but what he does not have to do is constantly grind the way players with lesser talent do.
The original argument here was that Ichiro was not worth consideration because he didn’t seem to care enough to try hard. Whatever that means. I say it does not matter if he looks like he tries hard or not, his talent transcends his supposed alck o effort.
You think you are seeing the product of years and years of effort, but in reality, you have no idea.
Proud supporter of the Cleveland.
by fwembt on
Jul 20, 2008 5:39 PM EDT
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I’m not missing the point, the point is ridiculous. The significant grinding effort doesn’t happen during each game, it happens before each game and in the offseason. Players take 5-10 times as many swings in the cages and in batting practice as they’ll take in the actual game.
During the actual game, the at-bats are relatively brief, and if you somehow think that Manny is exerting or focusing less for those 4-5 encounters of 90 seconds in each game … well, that’s just nuts. If he wasn’t focused and exerting, he couldn’t do anything at the plate. Nobody could.
by Jay on
Jul 22, 2008 2:03 PM EDT
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oh my god the Rays are last in the league in doubles? casey blake could hit 5th for them. (longoria should be hitting 4th)
by Gradyforpresident on
Jul 11, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
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Is that a good inning? I think that was a good inning.
by Toxicadam on
Jul 11, 2008 7:15 PM EDT
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24 pitches isn’t awesome, but 3 K’s is pretty cool.
by DontCallMeJoey on
Jul 11, 2008 7:17 PM EDT
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Jhonny
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on
Jul 11, 2008 7:25 PM EDT
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Those shadows must be screwing with the Rays .. they look lost out there.
by Toxicadam on
Jul 11, 2008 7:25 PM EDT
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i personally guarantee that the indians will pick up the remainder of casey blake’s salary if they trade him
by Gradyforpresident on
Jul 11, 2008 7:25 PM EDT
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He’s going to the Mets to pick up for Alou and the Mets are gonna estatic to have him.
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by mauichuck on
Jul 11, 2008 7:45 PM EDT
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Exactly what I was going to post. He’ll swing at ball four, but he’ll take a called third strike with the best of them.
by xrickx on
Jul 11, 2008 7:27 PM EDT
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that sounded like (reading gameday) a very ben francisco/victor martinez – esque weak pop to an infielder w/ RISP. someone else can know our pain
by DontCallMeJoey on
Jul 11, 2008 7:35 PM EDT
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I’m here only for a couple of minutes. Casey, btw, is now in the top 30 in OPS for eligible AL batters. Grady is our only other player in that group (#8). Casey has been a decent offensive contributor this season and now that Garko sucks he’ s not even blocking Marte. Could we lay off him just a little? (ducks).
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on
Jul 11, 2008 7:36 PM EDT
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i’m with you. i’ve been saying for a couple of weeks that blake is our most valuable offensive player…clearly that is actually grady, but is there even a close competitor to casey right now? please, be sure to factor in the beard/grit
by DontCallMeJoey on
Jul 11, 2008 7:39 PM EDT
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I’ve been beginning to feel this way over the last 10 days or so.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on
Jul 11, 2008 7:40 PM EDT
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BAD D!
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on
Jul 11, 2008 7:40 PM EDT
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Any news on Sexson?
Still an Ohio boy through and through!
by TribeLoverInNewYork on
Jul 11, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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Yea. Even though he’s currently not on a roster, he still managed to go 0-4 today with 3Ks.
by xrickx on
Jul 11, 2008 7:45 PM EDT
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how’d we get our 1? forgot to set up the DVR. too lazy to find a box/cast
by Brick. on
Jul 11, 2008 7:49 PM EDT
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BenFran infield single off the glove of Longoria…tough hop back-hander that he couldn’t pick. Jhonny took a low curveball to RF, Gomes misjudged it, and they called it a double. Run Scored
by xrickx on
Jul 11, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
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is it me or has jhonny been in one of his good inconsistent stretches?
he’s going to end the year with solid numbers. i think he’s consistent, just in his own way.
by Brick. on
Jul 11, 2008 7:53 PM EDT
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Fausto’s set for a rehab assignment. Ginter to get the start tomorrow. Somebody has to be moved off the 40. Mastny? Maybe try and slip Bullington through waives? Brad Snyder?
by xrickx on
Jul 11, 2008 7:52 PM EDT
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my mood will elevate just by getting to see fausto throw every 5th. get drubs up here and i’m a content camper – all things considered. i love those kids.
by Brick. on
Jul 11, 2008 7:54 PM EDT
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So we got one run huh? That’s all the Cliffenator needs. It’s over, chalk this up as another win.
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by mauichuck on
Jul 11, 2008 7:54 PM EDT
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fuck that. you can erase chalk. use a magic marker.
by Brick. on
Jul 11, 2008 7:55 PM EDT
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he says “TAKE THAT” to the league adjusting to him. we need more of that.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on
Jul 11, 2008 8:00 PM EDT
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francisco runs kinda sideways like a taunting phillips. i don’t think i like it.
by Brick. on
Jul 11, 2008 7:58 PM EDT
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that was a terrible call by hegan
by Gradyforpresident on
Jul 11, 2008 7:59 PM EDT
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It must be a bad angle for them to see. Underwood botched a similar homerun last night (Choo).
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Jul 11, 2008 8:00 PM EDT
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Locked in. How can a guy who can drive that pitch that far struggle as much as he has this season?
by xrickx on
Jul 11, 2008 7:59 PM EDT
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‘tis the mystery of Jhonny Peralta.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on
Jul 11, 2008 8:01 PM EDT
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I’d be really happy to sell on Jhonny at this point, if someone just looked at his power.
by NickFantana on
Jul 11, 2008 8:00 PM EDT
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I think your crazy. He’s still a keeper.
by Toxicadam on
Jul 11, 2008 8:00 PM EDT
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i’m with you. keep jhonny in the fold
by DontCallMeJoey on
Jul 11, 2008 8:02 PM EDT
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It’d have to be the right mix of players. I’m not opposed to it. I like a 30HR shortstop, but a .300OBP is just not cool. I don’t think he’s a .300OBP hitter. I do think he can be a 30HR guy, though. He just has to want to hit it to RF every at-bat, like Jeter.
by xrickx on
Jul 11, 2008 8:02 PM EDT
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you go to hell. you go to hell and you die. leave my jhonny alone!
by Brick. on
Jul 11, 2008 8:02 PM EDT
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Peralta is worth more to us than to anyone else, IMO.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on
Jul 11, 2008 8:02 PM EDT
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The Dodgers have the right mix of players to make Jhonny very valuable to them too.
by xrickx on
Jul 11, 2008 8:03 PM EDT
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Anybody, off the top of their head, what’s his OBP right now?
by NickFantana on
Jul 11, 2008 8:03 PM EDT
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it is weird to wonder where the hell his walk rate went
by Gradyforpresident on
Jul 11, 2008 8:05 PM EDT
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I believe it got jammed in Travis Hafner’s shoulder.
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Jul 11, 2008 8:06 PM EDT
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So if his walk rate is disappearing and the Dodgers have a hard-on for his SLG then why not?
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Jul 11, 2008 8:06 PM EDT
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and if we trade him, who the hell is going to play 2B
by Gradyforpresident on
Jul 11, 2008 8:07 PM EDT
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Any number of our players that can hit 25-30 homers a year. They grow on trees in our minor system.
by Toxicadam on
Jul 11, 2008 8:08 PM EDT
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oh this is sarcasm … dear god I almost took the bait
by Gradyforpresident on
Jul 11, 2008 8:09 PM EDT
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good value. all i’m saying is if you can get a team excited about him and get equal or better value then do it. he’s not going to be a core piece.
by NickFantana on
Jul 11, 2008 8:08 PM EDT
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even if he’s not a core piece, it doesn’t mean we should trade him
by Gradyforpresident on
Jul 11, 2008 8:10 PM EDT
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I haven’t said we necessarily need to trade him. Not even close.
by NickFantana on
Jul 11, 2008 8:11 PM EDT
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ok let’s take a step back. i didn’t mean to imply that
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Jul 11, 2008 8:12 PM EDT
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I know. I just want to be clear that I’m not cavalierly begging for the Tribe to start chucking talent.
I just think he’s the kind of guy you can move, for a few valuable prospects, and move forward with Cabrera at SS, find a 2B for next year and make the team stronger.
IF THE RIGHT DEAL CAN BE FOUND
by NickFantana on
Jul 11, 2008 8:14 PM EDT
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This is the same arguement I would get into before the 08 season. Everyone wanted to shift Peralta to 3b (or ship him out) and I said “Droobs hasn’t proven himself yet”.
He still hasn’t.
So you would go into 09 with two question marks in two positions. That a recipie for disaster.
by Toxicadam on
Jul 11, 2008 8:18 PM EDT
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If I change “find a 2B” to “sign Orlando Hudson” does that make it any better?
by NickFantana on
Jul 11, 2008 8:21 PM EDT
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this isn’t crazy…but droobs needs to find the magic at the plate, and the key is the last night…need a solid deal. i guess, though, you could say that about just about anyone on the roster.
by DontCallMeJoey on
Jul 11, 2008 8:21 PM EDT
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Christ, Shapiro spends six – seven years building towards contention and you guys wanna trade everybody – cept Grady – in one season. Amazing!!
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by mauichuck on
Jul 11, 2008 8:15 PM EDT
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Hu (SS), McDonald (RHP), and Kuo (LHP)
by xrickx on
Jul 11, 2008 8:10 PM EDT
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the dodgers are offering that package? i find that doubtful
by Gradyforpresident on
Jul 11, 2008 8:10 PM EDT
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Has there been ANY mention of a Peralta deal? Considering Jhonny’s contract, I think it’s reasonable to expect three prospects. Look what Bedard and Miguel Tejada fetched this offseason.
by xrickx on
Jul 11, 2008 8:12 PM EDT
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wait hu doesn’t impress me that much
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Jul 11, 2008 8:14 PM EDT
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He’s had a blurry vision problem this season that has him disabled right now. It explains his offensive nothingness this year. I don’t know if the issue has been or is being resolved.
by xrickx on
Jul 11, 2008 8:16 PM EDT
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none of his numbers impress me
by Gradyforpresident on
Jul 11, 2008 8:16 PM EDT
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He’s also widely regarded as above-average to gold-glove caliber at SS.
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Jul 11, 2008 8:18 PM EDT
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i thought hu’s on first…..HIII OHHH! and what’s the deal with airplane food…
seriously, i’m here all week
by DontCallMeJoey on
Jul 11, 2008 8:22 PM EDT
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fly lufthansa and you won’t complain about airline food. or the free alcohol.
by Gradyforpresident on
Jul 11, 2008 8:23 PM EDT
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i should say, free, unlimited alcohol.
by Gradyforpresident on
Jul 11, 2008 8:24 PM EDT
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so they cut you off after two “emergency” bags?
is there a LAX to CLE direct on lufthansa?
by DontCallMeJoey on
Jul 11, 2008 8:26 PM EDT
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i had 5 beers quick like on my 8 hour flight (munich-chicago). and the guy was still asking me if i wanted liquor or wine.
after that i just went to bed
by Gradyforpresident on
Jul 11, 2008 8:27 PM EDT
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Never beat Aloha from Johnston Island to Hono. In two hours I could chug 8-9 shots and half a dozen beers – no charge!!
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by mauichuck on
Jul 11, 2008 8:30 PM EDT
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Do you think he adds water to achieve the chug effect?
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Jul 11, 2008 8:32 PM EDT
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David Boon Aussie cricketer holds the record on a flight between Australia and London, 50 cans of beer
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on
Jul 11, 2008 8:34 PM EDT
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and certainly not his 2007 numbers, but have you checked out the guy’s career numbers?
A defensive difference-maker who can hit a bit? Sounds like some guy named Asdrubal that I know.
by xrickx on
Jul 11, 2008 8:22 PM EDT
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That was my way not-so-clear way of saying “No, the Dodgers aren’t offering that.” But an AAA shortstop, and AA starting pitcher, and a MLB reliever iaren’t untouchable pieces. I didn’t mean to suggest that as a package. Just as players with value the Indians might like. I think the Indians could get two of those guys for Peralta.
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Jul 11, 2008 8:14 PM EDT
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I’m not being clear. At least two of those guys in a package of three.
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Jul 11, 2008 8:15 PM EDT
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The kicker is that Jhonny is 26 and probably entering the best offensive years of his career. There really might be a special bat in there. He’s about to get expensive on Cleveland, but I think he can hit enough to justify it.
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Jul 11, 2008 8:08 PM EDT
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The thing for me is Jhonny JUST turned 26. The guy could actually still hit for more power in his next few years. That would be awesome.
by Toxicadam on
Jul 11, 2008 8:07 PM EDT
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yeah i was gonna say that good point
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Jul 11, 2008 8:08 PM EDT
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Is there a long list of guys who add power after they turn 26 that I’m not aware of?
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Jul 11, 2008 8:09 PM EDT
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Barry Bonds
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Jul 11, 2008 8:12 PM EDT
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Yeah JHonny
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on
Jul 11, 2008 8:00 PM EDT
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i don’t care if grey goose is the world’s best tasting vodka. it’s still vodka. gah.
by Gradyforpresident on
Jul 11, 2008 8:01 PM EDT
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sweet sweet grey goose…eases the pain
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Jul 11, 2008 8:06 PM EDT
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Popov Vodka- usta sell it for $1.75 a fifth on Johnston Island. After the first fifth or two, you could hardly taste it.
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by mauichuck on
Jul 11, 2008 8:13 PM EDT
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I just stopped by to say JHONNY!!!! (I know I’m a little late)
Please don’t trade him. He’s good. After all defense isn’t THAT important at shortstop. Just ask the Yankees.
by Buckeye Brad on
Jul 11, 2008 8:15 PM EDT
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god i can’t wait to go get a burger and beers
by Gradyforpresident on
Jul 11, 2008 8:17 PM EDT
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OMG
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on
Jul 11, 2008 8:17 PM EDT
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Is he pulling a wagonload of wood when he runs the bases?
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Jul 11, 2008 8:17 PM EDT
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Dellucci doubles and Marte pops out. Oh, you cruel, cruel world.
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Jul 11, 2008 8:21 PM EDT
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i wouldn’t drink for 6 months if andy marte hit .265/335/.475 next year
by Gradyforpresident on
Jul 11, 2008 8:21 PM EDT
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gotta jet. go tribe. triple and single for jhonny…here comes the cycle.
by xrickx on
Jul 11, 2008 8:25 PM EDT
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Ladies and gentlemen – Cliff Fucking Lee!!
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Jul 11, 2008 8:29 PM EDT
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ooooooooooooo mommy – the old man swore
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on
Jul 11, 2008 8:30 PM EDT
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but yea, I was gonna post something similar.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
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Jul 11, 2008 8:31 PM EDT
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Carl Crawford is still trying to figure out if that was a slider or a four seamer!
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Jul 11, 2008 8:31 PM EDT
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we should trade for him! he steals bases and is fast! and then we could make grady our 3-hitter!
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Jul 11, 2008 8:32 PM EDT
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Unfortunately, we don’t have anybody that the Rays would want.
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Jul 11, 2008 8:34 PM EDT
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satire. carl crawford is way overrated
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You mean make Grady our 2-hitter.
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Jul 11, 2008 8:37 PM EDT
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we’re going to get a lot of mileage out of that one.
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Jul 11, 2008 8:43 PM EDT
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Another great game for Cliff. Do Cy Young pitchers come from last place teams?
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Jul 11, 2008 8:32 PM EDT
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only 1 pitcher in ML history has won 20 on a team that lost 100
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
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Jul 11, 2008 8:33 PM EDT
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Lefty
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Jul 11, 2008 8:34 PM EDT
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Hammy:
“Gomes is a detriment in right field”
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
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Jul 11, 2008 8:33 PM EDT
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“Detriments, are we? Detriments? Well, it’s detriments like us who built this empire!”
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Jul 11, 2008 8:34 PM EDT
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ANOTHER RUN!
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on
Jul 11, 2008 8:36 PM EDT
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What’s Ben doing? He’s going to get himself traded.
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Jul 11, 2008 8:37 PM EDT
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While we’re talking about trading guys in the right deal, if some team wants Ben Francisco to start in Left Field for them, please, let’s make them happy.
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Jul 11, 2008 8:37 PM EDT
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as long as we’re talking deals…lets send dellucci out for a large thin crust from geraci’s
by DontCallMeJoey on
Jul 11, 2008 8:38 PM EDT
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i would really like to peak value him away right now. isn’t he older than jhonny?
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Jul 11, 2008 8:41 PM EDT
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He’s older than Paul Byrd. Trade him yesterday.
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Jul 11, 2008 9:06 PM EDT
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Benfran
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
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Jul 11, 2008 8:37 PM EDT
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C.C. was a big fat anchor holding this team down.
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Jul 11, 2008 8:37 PM EDT
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i’m actually surprised i typed the fat. just sort a came out.
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Jul 11, 2008 8:40 PM EDT
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that sentence construct lends itself to double adjectives. it’s not you, it’s the grammar convention.
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Jul 11, 2008 8:42 PM EDT
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this team is fun to watch when they play baseball.
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Jul 11, 2008 8:44 PM EDT
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2:1 strikes to balls tho
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
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Jul 11, 2008 8:48 PM EDT
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Right now I’m in Pine Bluff Arkansas, home of the Upton brothers, Torii Hunter. Cliff’s from Brenton, right down the road. Rick Ankiel from somewhere around here too. Pretty amazing.
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by mauichuck on
Jul 11, 2008 8:46 PM EDT
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What kind of deadly chemical do they make down there?
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Jul 11, 2008 8:48 PM EDT
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VX, GB (soman) and Mustard – the usual. They don’t make them anymore, but they do incenerate them. We’re down to just mustard now. Should be all gone by 2011.
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by mauichuck on
Jul 11, 2008 9:14 PM EDT
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do you watch “The Rock” and pretend you’re Nicholas Cage?
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Jul 11, 2008 9:26 PM EDT
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Actually ConAir is on right now. The Rock was laughable. Blue nerve agent in little clear plastic balls. Acually the stuff looks like motor oil and tastes like chlorox,
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by mauichuck on
Jul 11, 2008 9:28 PM EDT
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Just fuckin’ with you Brick
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Jul 11, 2008 9:53 PM EDT
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well, i thought it was possible. in “The Rock” the stuff really becomes dangerous when it is rendered as an aerosol.
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Jul 11, 2008 9:54 PM EDT
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Can you explain why we ever thought it was a good idea to make all that shit?
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Jul 11, 2008 9:35 PM EDT
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the evil doers, man. the evil doers
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Jul 11, 2008 9:36 PM EDT
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Not a very good tactical weapon, after all if you can deliver chemicals you can deliver HE. It’s good for an area denial weapon, kinda like mines, but not much good against well protected troops. It slows everybody down – since ya gotta wear the protective gear. Your troops included.
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Jul 11, 2008 9:53 PM EDT
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impressive.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
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Jul 11, 2008 8:49 PM EDT
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Jhonny batting .304, .922 OPS from the 4 hole before tonight. That should go up a bit.
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Ugh, Dave. That AB was weaker than Analyze That.
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Jul 11, 2008 8:59 PM EDT
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It’s tough. He kind of looks like a 1960s Ian McKellen. I don’t think I’d say that to his face.
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Jul 11, 2008 9:09 PM EDT
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Marte partay has been called off tonight.
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Jul 11, 2008 9:01 PM EDT
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I hope we see Gary Glover one more time this series.
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Jul 11, 2008 9:15 PM EDT
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I was gonna do BenFran with this shot, but couldn’t find one.
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Jul 11, 2008 9:21 PM EDT
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+1 run differential on the year. Whooooo!
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Jul 11, 2008 9:29 PM EDT
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Is that guy trying to make a right angle with his fingers?
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Jul 11, 2008 11:35 PM EDT
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Sometimes it looks like Eddie Moo has no idea where his pitch will end up.
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Jul 11, 2008 9:38 PM EDT
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makes it that much tougher for the hitters to know then
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Jul 11, 2008 9:41 PM EDT
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3 outs away from a win streak! A streak .. with winning involved!
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Jul 11, 2008 9:39 PM EDT
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sorry, you’re going to have to explain that some more for me…
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Jul 11, 2008 9:40 PM EDT
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Anyone got a quick rundown of tonight’s contest?
-Erik
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Jul 11, 2008 9:40 PM EDT
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lots of doubles. a jhonny HR. cliff was cliff, perez was cliff and mujica struck out a guy.
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Jul 11, 2008 9:42 PM EDT
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You should be doing the recaps around here Brick.
-Erik
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Jul 11, 2008 9:43 PM EDT
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the lack of caps and frequency of typos and bad spelling don’t lend themselves to the front page.
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Jul 11, 2008 9:47 PM EDT
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more magic from clifton the magnificent; hot bats from peralta and francisco; raffy p showed up out of nowhere for 2 innings of shutdown. that pretty much does it
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Jul 11, 2008 9:42 PM EDT
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how many games in a row has Marte started?
-Erik
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Pretty epic minor league manager meltdown:
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=207187&cl=8772054&ch=207399&src=sports
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Jul 11, 2008 9:43 PM EDT
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how long you think that guy had the take-both-shoes-off-and-spike-them routine in the back pocket?
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Jul 11, 2008 9:46 PM EDT
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I just like that his name is Kash Beauchamp. That’s a virtual preordained license to be an asshole.
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Jul 11, 2008 9:48 PM EDT
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that’s the best real name i’ve heard since “hunt ramsbottom”...i’m serious, met him like a month ago. i was in awe
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Jul 11, 2008 9:50 PM EDT
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I went to HS with Rocco Marcoguseppi. Kinda like Rosanne Rosannadana
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Jul 11, 2008 9:54 PM EDT
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went to college with a Beauchamp. We called him Pimp Daddy Beauchamp.
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that’s shocking. there’s still a field with that kind astroturf out there? is that where the shockers play?
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Jul 11, 2008 9:52 PM EDT
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i’d say he’s getting plastered right now.
-Erik
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Jul 11, 2008 9:49 PM EDT
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Dullucci is hitting again. And another small piece of me has died.
-Erik
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Dellucci is a zombie. He refuses to die.
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i’m shocked he didn’t get on base
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Jul 11, 2008 9:51 PM EDT
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is there a “concede” feature in major league at bats these days? i would feel much better about using that than letting dellucci see any pitches
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Jul 11, 2008 9:48 PM EDT
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Sipp strikes out 3 in two innings for Kinston, Huff K’s 5 in 5 for Buffalo.
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LaPorta: 1/5, HR, 3 RBI
Green: 0/4
Brantley: DNP
Bryson: DNP
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Jul 11, 2008 11:25 PM EDT
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someone with the game on, what are these marte swings/ABs looking like ?
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His last AB he was a little pull happy. Crushed one foul, weakly tapped one foul (that was pitched on the outside), then got handcuffed on an inside pitch and struck out.
Flipped his bat down in disgust.
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Jul 11, 2008 9:55 PM EDT
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were we lead to believe that he had good plate discipline? too lazy to look up the minor league stats on a friday evening, but i feel like he’s never walked in the bigs, and strikes out A LOT
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He works the count well, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen him take 2-0. I don’t think he’s thinking walk, but he’s not swinging wildly either. I think he tries to get into a hitter’s count and then look for something he can drive.
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Looks like he’s had a 2-0 count 61 times, and he’s had a 3-0 count only 10 times. That tells us he’s taken at least 10 times in that situation, but it’s hard to say how many — we don’t have the data for how many of his 2-1 counts came from a called strike on the third pitch.
Andy apparently seems to do well when he hits the ball fair on 2-0 — 6-for-17 with two 2B and 1 HR, slugging .657. But his OPS is only 801 for all PA in which he got to 2-0 — 10 strikeouts and only 11 walks — and that’s not great.
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I was just going on the AB’s I’d seen, so this is much more informative. I think the OPS data are the most important ones. I remember checking on Garko’s numbers in “hitter’s counts” earlier in the season, and his results were worse.
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Marte got out in front of one … no luck for him.
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Eddie Moo again.
I guess we are saving Koybayashi for the closers role now?
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My boyz just called me from the Jake. There in row H right behind the Indians dugout – drunk on their asses. I’m jealous.
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Jul 11, 2008 9:56 PM EDT
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If they were true working class “boyz” they’d be drunk OFF their asses.
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I think Mastny could use some work.
-Erik
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aren’t mastny situations turning into the diametrical opposite of save situations? like mastny should only pitch when we’re up 11 runs in the 9th and have no chance of losing?
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diametrical? i believe i also mean diametric…
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his non-use has become epic. winning, losing. it doesn’t matter.
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winning, losing. it doesn’t matter
Is that a quote from my favorite moviem “Conan the Barbarian”?
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Jul 11, 2008 10:01 PM EDT
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can’t say, never seen it. if it is, it was by accident.
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Brick has seen Conan the Librarian, but not Conan the Barbarian.
-Erik
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Great flick. It makes Citizen Kane seem like Istar.
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Ok Eric .. lets get someone up in the pen.
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Marte refusing to dive into the camera bay to catch a ball. Tsk tsk.
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when is eddie moo going to get recognized for his fielding.
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shortly after his ERA cruises in under 5
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I had visions of Bob WIckman out there.
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Oooh, I’m getting time machined here.
-Erik
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I bet Cliff’s gonna start the ASG for the AL
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isn’t that already a done deal?
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Nope, just some assholes from NYC speculating in the press.
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They were saying on WFAN the other day that Mariano Rivera was going to start and pitch one inning.
Still an Ohio boy through and through!
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