Tampa Bay Rays @ Cleveland Indians GameThread, Jul 12, 2008 7:05 PM EDT

after starting 3 straight games, Marte gets a rest

by palcal on Jul 12, 2008 6:39 PM EDT reply actions

Ginter’s last major league game was a loss to Byrd in Anaheim in 2005 (pitching for Detroit)

by palcal on Jul 12, 2008 6:40 PM EDT reply actions

yay for useless trivia

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions

It’s a premium story, so can’t divulge too much, but Matt LaPorta is now Baseball America’s #7 overall prospect.

by TonyH on Jul 12, 2008 6:44 PM EDT reply actions

LaPorta cracked a 2-run homer in the top of the 9th last night to win the game for Akron 3-2. Not a bad start to his Indians career.

by ATLTribefan on Jul 12, 2008 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Josh Rodriguez went yard to lead off the game for Akron.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 6:48 PM EDT reply actions

Head also had a double and it looks like Toreagas drove him in.

Looks like Hodges and LaPorta are out, travelling for Futures’ game perhaps?

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions

That makes sense as the game is tomorrow, apparently. I didn’t think it was till the real teams stopped playing.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions

This is gonna be a roller-coaster ride tonight, that’s for sure.

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 6:56 PM EDT reply actions

Commercial for adult novelties on Reading radio.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 6:56 PM EDT reply actions

win

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions

DEATH TO LEHMAN’S COMMERCIAL STATING SPIDERS ARE PART OF INDIANS FRANCHISE GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:03 PM EDT reply actions

Hey, hey, hey, Let’s Go Furnituremakers!

by SuddenSam on Jul 12, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions

What a different world if we’d won the bid for Iwamura.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:07 PM EDT reply actions

So searching my old e-mails, I found this picture:

with this caption:

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply actions

Can anyone else see this? I had a problem with images not showing up for anyone else recently.

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions

I can see it.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Does anyone else feel like it’s poorly worded and implies Marte is Lee?

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Thank you. I feel vindicated and content.

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions

not bad, not bad

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions

I wonder how much Ginter makes for tonight, over what he would make were he in Buffalo? $4,000? More?

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions

Matt Ginter for Prez.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions

Huh. Never heard that about Garza.

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions

Matt Garza is terriffic.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply actions

Gutz looks like a famous person but I can’t decide who.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions

Have I convinced you of the Dellucci / De Niro connection yet?

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions

you did me

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions

It’s the most exciting baseball related event for me this week. They were separated at birth.

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions

He looks like a telenovela guest star to me.

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions

Hmm. Yes. Sort of.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions

he looks like a famous person? he IS a famous person.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 12, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Well. That will work, Jamey.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions

Jhonny Peralta as permanent cleanup hitter is hilarious to me.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions

That thing Garza does with his glove freaks me out.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions

braaaar grarrrr

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions

Nice slide. Idiot.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply actions

The reduced ABs for Garko have really been a breath of fresh air. I love the guy, but sheesh has he been bad for ages.

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply actions

Mills HR followed by Weglarz triple.

Muahahahaha.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions

Mills might be arriving. 4 HRs in last 10 games, to go with 3 doubles and an average over .360. Wegz has done almost the same thing in his last 10 as well.

It might be good to be an Indians fan soon enough.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions

I was just about to say the same thing. I’m glad they turned it up at the same time. I also enjoy the fact that they’re showing negligible platoon splits.

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah it’s exciting. TRAD LaPorta.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions

Uhh. Trade.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions

shiver

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Matt Ginter striking out Gabe Gross-hilarious.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply actions

How does Francisco have 10 OF assists??

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply actions

How does he have 230 ABs?

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions

he can hit?

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions

Donovan thinks it’s 5:30 in cleveland.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 12, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions

Matt Ginter. Hilarious.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions

How’s Ginter doing? Just got back.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 12, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions

K’ing up a storm.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions

no runs!

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions

It’s great to be an Indians fan again!

by SuddenSam on Jul 12, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions

They have AS gear? NO WAY! How lucky of them

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions

Casey looking like a ballplayer.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions

Trade David. Right now.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions

Yeah, let’s put Dellucci in motion. Great idea.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions

If baserunners were vehicles, Dellucci would be a rickshaw.

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Or maybe a gondola.

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Wheelbarrow?

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Speed on the basebaths paths!

As in, by its scientific definition, Dellucci has speed.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 12, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions

I have no idea what this means.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Presumably, because he is in motion, he has speed, regardless of how much.

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions

Even a turtle has “speed.”

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 12, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions

I more meant basebaths paths!

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions

Ain’t the mind a wonderful thing? I didn’t see it either.

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions

Ah. I don’t know what that means either.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 12, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions

Garko wants his PT back.

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions

Increasing Trade Value.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions

Ahahaha fat guy running over small woman to chase home run ball.

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions

Garksmash.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions

Gutz has real speed!

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions

Everybody see Huff struck out 5 over 5 last night?

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions

drool

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions

Manning: “I really believe Wedge put the runner in motion because Garko and Gutierrez were a combined oh-for-forty-two. They were due.”

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions

That’s one theory.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 12, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions

Due to be benched.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions

rrrroaaaaar

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions

Jeff Weaver gives up a leadoff homerun to the first batter he faces as a Bison.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions

And then a double. And then a triple.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions

Incredible.

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions

Only a single away from a cycle, then.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions

wow

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 12, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Hamilton: 93 RsBI? Yeesh!

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions

Hack Wilson is shaking in his boots. Except he doesn’t have boots. Or probably even feet at this point.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions

The FSN Florida dudes are pronouncing “Gutierrez” in an annoying accurate manner.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions

SIZEMORE

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions

he don’t need no speed

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions

23!

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions

Yeesh, Grady.

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions

Good LORD, Grady is good.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 12, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply actions

And here I thought Garza was good.

Huh.

I guess Grady’s better.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply actions

That looked like a darn good pitch.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 12, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply actions

another one (hit, single)

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions

What the hell? Where’s the suck?

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions

on the mound in Buffalo. they buried it all there

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions

This Indians team is awesome!

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions

ANd now he has to face the MEAT of the order!!!!

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions

And Weaver somehow escapes giving up only 2 runs.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions

oops the suck moved

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Apparently, CC was the problem.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

Thou Shalt Fear The Might of Our Ferocious Lumber

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions

Big ol’ double.

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions

SKINNER ALERT

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply actions

FUCK SKINNER

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 12, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply actions

That was horsey sauce. They let Garza off the hook.

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply actions

exactly why 99% of 3b coaches don’t send a guy who just got to third when the ball was cut off.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 12, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions

HAHAHAHAHA

That was the funniest Skinner’d yet.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 12, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply actions

Hahahaha.

Carroll just ran into a wall.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply actions

Skinner sucks, but I thought little dudes were generally fast

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply actions

Carrol was running so fast the grit was streaming off him. Hence, he slowed down.

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions

So the increased resistance from Flying Grit overcomes the reduced body mass from Grit Loss.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes.

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions

If this is a statistical theory of the Indians that it is better to be aggressive at third/home, DON’T THEY HAVE ENOUGH EVIDENCE NOW THAT, at the minimum, SKINNER IS NOT A GOOD IMPLEMENTER OF THIS THEORY?

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply actions

Astro: leadoff single.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions

“Ginter…a rare situation in which he falls behind the count…”

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions

Manning? Underwood?

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Donovan.

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Pretty confident he was joking around.

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions

good

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Useless Matt Ginter stat. Before tonight, first pitch outcome:
in play 132
ball 28
strike 69

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions

Clearly the Rays don’t have the scouting report: Swing.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Ginter’s stache: +/- ?

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions

Ginter’s goat is completely ironic. Ginter is a hipster.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions

What is Manning obviously eating?

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions

KKK

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions

holy changeup ginter

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions

Has anyone ever taken K signs to the park? I want to at some point.

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions

Donovan is leagues better than Underwood .. or am I drinking too much?

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions

no way. 10x worse, IMO.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 12, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Really? Wow.

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Ginter is the new Cliff Lee.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions

I haven’t even fully accepted the old-new Cliff Lee yet.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 12, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions

KKKK

This is hilarious, amazing, epic, incredible, awe-inspiring, and absurd.

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply actions

31 pitches, 25 strikes

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply actions

Ginter is killing me. I am dying over here.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply actions

I think Maddon better call a time out and do a emergency team meeting in-between innings.

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions

Jordan Brown, GIDP.

Jordan Brown, SHTY.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions

Matt Can’t Stop Me Ginter

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions

Ummm, these Ginter pitches are damn good.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 12, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions

to paraphrase another thread…

Somebody’s scrapheap has to click for us, right?

Now is not that time.
Still, this is cool.

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions

CG SHO, 12 K pace for Ginter

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions

Lets score 6 more so I can feel safe.

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions

10 more

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Comcast in Richmond (presumably everywhere else too, I guess) has FSN Fla. instead of STO. The announcers seem impressed by Ginter. Or pissed at the Rays. Can’t tell which.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply actions

I’d be both were I a Rays fan.

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions

Why did it have to be Tampa Bay? I’m okay with it if these guys immediately resume kicking Boston’s ass.

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply actions

yeah…. while it might be nice that the Indians are showing a bit of a pulse, I would’ve been perfectly fine with them sucking through the AS break… the only teams they’re helping with their outburst here over the last three games are the Red Sox and the Yankees….. hell, they can’t even lose to the right teams…. didn’t someone tell them that the Rays are the feel-good story of the year….. but then, if the Rays can’t pummel a guy like Ginter, I don’t know if how much longer they’re going to be feeling good….

by harp1987 on Jul 12, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, fair enough. This has way more to do with the Rays sucking than with us doing well right now.

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions

Bhase hit, yhay.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions

I

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions

It ate my comment.

I love Peralta.

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Jhonny Peralta is my favorite Indian ever, I think.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions

How much have you had to drink and can I have some?

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions

I think you’re forgetting Brook Jacoby.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 12, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Rich Yett

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Al Aber.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions

Chris Bando

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 12, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions

Peralta July OPS: .918

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

JP showing some terrific hits going to right field. I can’t recall him hitting this much that way.

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply actions

Longoria lost the ball in the beard

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply actions

That looked Casey Blake hitting to Casey Blake fielding.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 12, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

Dave D and I have roughly the same beard at the moment.

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions

I love this team.

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions

Unfortunately, they hate us.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Yay Skinner

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions

z

DD is a zombie. He just won’t die. 2 for 2 insures 20 more starts.

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions

Looch! And the weird thing is, I’m just watching for Ginter right now.

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply actions

It’s Ginter’s team now.

by SuddenSam on Jul 12, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Ladies and Gentlemen, meet the Matt Ginter Fan Club.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Now if we could only win on the road…

by obobcatu on Jul 12, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply actions

Bunt!

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions

10 hits so far. Wow.

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions

8 Straight Hits!

by obobcatu on Jul 12, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions

jinxed.

by obobcatu on Jul 12, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Garza’s beard is clearly inadequate.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply actions

Did Garko really expect another meatball for his first pitch? sheesh

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions

PS. fire skinner

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Bunt!

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions

WOAH OH YEAH THAT ROCKS

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions

Hire Garko!!

by obobcatu on Jul 12, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions

Holy crap

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions

garko 5 RBI

by palcal on Jul 12, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions

Garko’s previous 23 games: 5 RBI
Garko’s first 2 AB: 5 RBI

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Not bad, considering he hit a DP ball on the first pitch, then a shallow popup.

by SuddenSam on Jul 12, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Ginter: blessing.

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions

Amazing.

Garko is another one with “speed” out there. Grady might have made it home.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 12, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions

yea, the second i saw that ball go by 2 divers, I said to myself “grady would have an inside the park slam”

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 12, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Don’t bunt!

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions

perez probably not available tonight; we need a REALLY big lead

by palcal on Jul 12, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions

Nice to see the Hollish are donating cows to widowed Kosovo women.
http://www.radionetherlands.nl/currentaffairs/region/europe/080711-kosovo-war-widows-cows

by obobcatu on Jul 12, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions

Well.

Huh.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions

War-huh?

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions

They clearly should have lost ten in a row sooner.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions

That’s two hit the opposite way with a little oomph for Frank. Right at him, but pretty well struck.

Baby steps.

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions

Wegz adds a walk to the resume.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions

WTF!

I guess sacrificing CC did the trick, huh?

--
2008: let the hate flow through you.

by vbc3 on Jul 12, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions

1 CC = 90 chickens

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions

How many Kosovar cows?

by SuddenSam on Jul 12, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions

0.245

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Does anyone else find Jim Donevan annoying? Listening to him call the game makes me want to beg for Underwood, as crazy as that sounds.

by obobcatu on Jul 12, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions

+1

--
2008: let the hate flow through you.

by vbc3 on Jul 12, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions

He’s serviceable, if nasal.

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m part of the Donovan Defense Force. Your act of aggression has been noted.

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions

I think annoying is generous.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 12, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions

let’s keep buliding the run of 25 unanswered runs

by palcal on Jul 12, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions

Jeff Weaver gives up another double.

Jeff Weaver is hilarious.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions

Did he ever give up a single, or his he still working on his personal Cycle of Doom?

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Still has not given up a single.

Has given up a BB but no single.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Fire Dream Weaver?

by obobcatu on Jul 12, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions

No way. Keep him forever.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions

So we can continue to mock him. He can be the DM.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Okay, the SUMMER OF GINTER (TM) continues …

I’m ready for more magic.

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions

The Rays TV crew just argued that falling behind by 7 is good, because then you relax.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions

at least they’re optimistic I guess

by obobcatu on Jul 12, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Let’s score 7 more, so they can really be at ease.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions

That franchise has a long history of relaxation.

by SuddenSam on Jul 12, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions

KKKKK

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions

That’s a tie for Ginter’s career high.

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions

5/21/04: 5 IP, 7 H, 5 ER, 2 BB, 5 SO, 1 HR

Lot of fives in that line.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions

This is nuts.

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by vbc3 on Jul 12, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions

Just got here and can only stay for a minute. NO WAY!!!!!!

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 12, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions

It hurts to see this team play so well after we’ve already surrendered.

by obobcatu on Jul 12, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions

Weaver just gave up a single. Astro and Snyder comboed to cut down a runner at the plate.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions

How good does Ginter have to be to get a second start.

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions

I don’t know, but this is about as good as it gets.

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Actually I’d say this good. If Carmona’s not ready, and Weaver clearly sucks, and they don’t want to call up Huff, I’d say that equals Start #2.

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Before the game Schwab/Rosie speculated that he would get 2 maybe 3 starts regardless.

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions

That sounds right to me. Who else are they going to try? There’s no need to rush Huff, since we’re out of the playoff race.

by Matt Y. on Jul 12, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions

You definitely won’t see Huff. In fact, they will probably start to limit his innings as the season wears on.

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions

exactly what I feel about Fausto as well. Do not rush the man.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 12, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Carmona won’t be ready by the 22nd

by palcal on Jul 12, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Yea, he’s definitely getting a second one now.

by xrickx on Jul 12, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Donovan is living like 5 years behind present time with all the references to ancient players. He already praised Montgomery, the early ‘90s closer for the royals, and now he mentions Baldelli. Perhaps it’s a deliberate time machine on his part. Who knows.

by obobcatu on Jul 12, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions

Maybe watching Browns football for the past 6 years has debilitated the man, Have some heart, he has been through alot already.

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions

HIRE GINTER

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions

White Sox down a run. We could pick up 3 games in 3 days!

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 12, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions

That’s what makes 2008 even worse. This division is (was?) so winnable.

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions

True. I think it’s still winnable for any team not in KC or Cleveland.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 12, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions

HIRE 2005!

by SuddenSam on Jul 12, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Woooooo. Potentially greatest comeback ever.

by obobcatu on Jul 12, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions

The Rays trivia answer: Bob Feller and Kerry Wood

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions

Ginter might be hurt! Gasp!

by afh4 on Jul 12, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions

zz

Oh no, they took Weaver out. Booo.

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions

Afraid the batters would pull a hammy what with all the runnin’.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions

If there was a positive for the night … at least he threw strikes. lol

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions

Wedge is going to conclude that playing Garkdo and Dellucci and sitting Marte is The Answer.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions

Who the hell is Garkdo? I blame the Booker’s.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions

Just picked up some Famous Grouse on my way home tonight.

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions

I love that that image is on dartmouth.edu.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions

Anybody else watch the Klitschko fight before this game?

Words do not do justice to my hatred for Boston sports teams.

by FaustosSinkingFastball on Jul 12, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions

I’m not watching Klitschko fights until the two brothers fight each other. That would be sweet.

by obobcatu on Jul 12, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions

No, what happened?

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions

11th round KO of Thompson.

Words do not do justice to my hatred for Boston sports teams.

by FaustosSinkingFastball on Jul 12, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Hope the fans aren’t treated to the same firework show as last night.

by obobcatu on Jul 12, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions

?

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by vbc3 on Jul 12, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions

It’s Rock-n-Blast nights. I went to the game last night and the show was weaker than the typical Friday night firework show. They brought in some church choir and had them sing in between barrages. The net result was too much choir singing and not enough badass firework blasts. About 2/3rds of the crowd had left before the end of the entire show. It was that bad.

by obobcatu on Jul 12, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Yuck. Sorry to hear that.

The one I saw last year was decent, I guess, save for the lip-synching Michael Stanley bit. That was just pathetic.

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by vbc3 on Jul 12, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions

The problem Garza is having, apparently, is that “his pitches have been hitting the Indians bats.”

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions

That’s usually not much of a problem for pitchers when facing the Indians.

by obobcatu on Jul 12, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Hooray for a BenFran walk. Seems like he’s doing it more lately.

by Matt Y. on Jul 12, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply actions

If Ginter doesn’t start getting standing Os…not my America, man.

by fleerdon on Jul 12, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions

Yeah. But it could be awhile. His pitch count is pretty good and he’s still looking ok.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 12, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions

Agog.

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by vbc3 on Jul 12, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions

It’s a baseball given that Ginter gets lit up in any subsequent start, right?

by ganatz on Jul 12, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m not sure.

Did we spike the Rays’ Gatorade or something?

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by vbc3 on Jul 12, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions

the SUMMER OF GINTER marches on.

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions

I think we were due for something unexpectedly good to happen this season (besides Kliff, that is).

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 12, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions

Betancourt warming up! Yikes.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 12, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions

MOAR RUNZ

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by vbc3 on Jul 12, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions

cz

Betancourt alert.

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions

7 runs is about 5 too few.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m going to be sad when Garza leaves the game.

by obobcatu on Jul 12, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions

Why’d they leave him in? Trying to protect the bullpen? It’s not like they’ve been blowing through relievers the past two nights.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 12, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions

One of the worst swings tonight. Yikes, Shoppach.

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions

Just got home, checking in before leaving again, and I have but one thing to say:

Holy shit, Matt Ginter.

by JRontherim on Jul 12, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions

Does Ginter actually play the banjo, or are the TB announcers just making fun of Kentucky?

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions

Garko needs a triple.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions

Not to jinx things, but the Rays haven’t scored since the 3rd inning on Thursday night.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 12, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions

That 25 unanswered stat was pretty good.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 12, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Of course as soon as I say that, Raffy B enters the game.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 12, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Just got here, wow didn’t expect it to be 7-0 Tribe

One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play

by new zealand tribe fan on Jul 12, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions

Why the heck are the Tribe winning now? They’re helping the Yankees! Start winning later!

by DixonCayne on Jul 12, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions

OHH NOOO

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 12, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions

We are +8 on the year for run differential. lol

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions

I’m not laughing anymore…

by ganatz on Jul 12, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, I thought we were the only last place team to have a +, but then I looked at Toronto, at +20.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 12, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Yikes,

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions

K for Raffy B. Got lucky, it was right down the middle.

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions

Nice inning for Betancourt, but man, he feels like he is slower than ever before. The innings just absolutely drag.

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions

This is like the Matrix, right? None of this is really happening.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 12, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions

23 minutes between comments….that has to be some kind of record.

by bogey021 on Jul 12, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions

I think there’s about 3 of us left.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 12, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions

I was poking around other fansites.

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Anything interesting? I’d imagine the Rays’ site is pretty dismal right now.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 12, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions

Actually, the Drays site is a cluttered mess with 2-3 guys spamming a bunch of nonsense and animated gifs.

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions

Thank god, no more Betancourt. I was falling asleep.

Retread sighting!

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions

GRADY!

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions

Nice catch, Grady!

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 12, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions

OK, since it’s a slow night. How come there aren’t more Desperate Housewives jokes with this guy? Or am I just reading the wrong sites?

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 12, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions

They all prematurely shot their joke wads on what was a bit of a dry run while he was in the minors, and now they’ve got a mess on their hands.

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Rincon is just being nice enough to give Masa a save opportunity.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions

Rincon looks awful.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 12, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions

Reclamation update:

Weaver 3 IP, 5 H, 3 ER, 1 BB, 2 SO, 1 HR
Bullington 3 IP, 4 H, 4 ER, 1 BB, 6 SO, 1 HR

What was the plan again?

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions

Those two aren’t part of it.

by SuddenSam on Jul 12, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Inevitable Kobayashi hot dog reference on FSN.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions

Holy crap.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 12, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions

in play (bad runs)

by bogey021 on Jul 12, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions

Yay, an out

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions

And we weren’t even batting.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 12, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions

Not a good night for the scrap pile pitching force, aside from Ginter.

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions

Weglarz! 2/2, 3B, 2 R, 2 BB
Brantley 0/1, BB, R
Green 2/3, BB

Lake County PPD

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions

Carmona pitching for Lake County on Monday.

by mcrose on Jul 13, 2008 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions

!!!

Holy CRAP.

I am SO THERE.

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by vbc3 on Jul 13, 2008 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions

so quiet

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 12, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions

With Peralta and Francisco on the basepaths, something goofy is bound to happen.

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions

Someone in my fantasy league just offered me Griffey and Vlad Guerrero for Josh Hamilton and Ryan Ludwick

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions

hahha

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions

A great trade. In 1999.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions

I was so hurt for a closer, I had to trade Youkilis for K. Wood and Kazmir for BJ Ryan (this was about a month ago). I really thought Kazmir was going to hurt himself again and Youk would fall back a little bit.

I started the year with Borowski and Putz. ::ack::

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions

Say what you want about the Indians offense, but we have some terrific fastball hitters. It’s just a shame that most of the league knows this.

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions

3 in a row!

Sweet.

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply actions

The Cardinals blew a 9-3 lead in the 8th inning. They need to DFA Isringhaus. He’s cooked.

by Toxicadam on Jul 12, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply actions

As a semi Cards fan, I hope they do. Unfortunately, he’ll probably end up in Buffalo.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Actually, before tonight he had given up 2 ER in his last 10 appearances (13.1 IP). that’s a 1.35 ERA, with 11 H, 0 HR, 5 BB, 11 SO. That’s pretty good.

by FredOx on Jul 12, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions

Jason Michaels 1st career walk-off HR

by palcal on Jul 12, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Wow, this thread died. Oh well, I’m partly to blame. Yay victory, and I’ll be at the park tomorrow!

by Voltaire on Jul 12, 2008 11:48 PM EDT reply actions

Pretty good game. Just got back from watching the Memphis Red Birds play the Omaha Royals. Saw Mark Worrel pitch in relief. He’s getting it up there at 91-92 with a very deceptive motion. All of the Omaha hitters looked over matched. Maybe Casey for this guy and another IFer? Don’t know.

BTW, if the Indians ever move Memphis would be my first choice. There’s a bar-b-que joint near the park called The Rendezvous - $18 for an incredible rack of ribs. After the game you can stagger over to Beale St. and listen to some blues. It was a little slow tonight, but still I can see the attraction.

Anyway, is it possible that the Tribe has come back from the dead? We get Vic back, Marte picks up his hitting just a little, Garko come to, Betancourt regains his mojo and Perez starts finding the plate, who knows? Anything can happen!

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Jul 13, 2008 12:10 AM EDT reply actions