Game Thread: July 2, 2008
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Just had a tornado warning in Iowa City, so there might be a storm headed towards Chicago.
by Gradyforpresident on Jul 2, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply actions
what’s the over / under on the number of days until the recorded open on radio broadcasts is dumped?
Wedge – the fans love it; turn up the volume
it happened in early July in 2006
anyone have visual? are we talking cats and dogs or is this game getting played?
by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 2, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
“threatening skies didn’t materialize – 8:35 start”
The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.
Thanks for the update
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by new zealand tribe fan on Jul 2, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
i love it when jhonny makes me look stupid
by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 2, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Jhonny
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by new zealand tribe fan on Jul 2, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions
I’ve got a cabin that is surrounded by freshwater coastline that will make everything clear again.
The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.
why is looch playing again?
The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.
we need to up our “K’s looking w/ bases loaded” quotient
by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 2, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
you suck, looch
The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.
jay i really apologize in advance for the f-bomb…i fucking DESPISE you, david dellucci
by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 2, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
He can do no wrong in my book. I saw him hit the game winning HR in the eighth to beat the Yankees. It’s all good after that.
Resident LGT beer kinda sewer
yeah, i can see that…except he is the worst player on a 25-man in baseball right now. i have a hard time getting past that.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 2, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
if i keep saying it then maybe they’ll do something about it
by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 2, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
for the night shift at panini’s on e. 9th?
by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 2, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll ask again: who would you rather have for the next five years: CC or Cliff?
Resident LGT beer kinda sewer
are we talking pure pitching ability? or factoring in contracts, etc?
by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 2, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
at the same price? CC
The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.
Yep same dollars. And I’m dead serious. I think that the chances of CC burning out are higher than Cliff losing his mojo. I like Cliff’s fire. I’ll bet you if he wouldda pitched against the BoSox last year we’d have a WS championship trophy back in Cleveland
Resident LGT beer kinda sewer
i’d have to disagree. same price it’s gotta be CC. he’s younger, better stuff overall, more proven over a longer period. we’re fawning over Cliff, and rightfully so, but he wasn’t even on the playoff roster last year.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 2, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
You think the 2007 version of Cliff Lee (he with the ERA over six) would have won us the ALCS? I don’t remember you advocating that at the time…
Well yeah a little over the top. After all Cliff was injured. But I just don’t think that a healthy Cliff would have gagged the way CC did. His play-off performance was very, very disappointing to say the least.
Resident LGT beer kinda sewer
For the same price, you’ve gotta be kidding me that you would take Cliff.
by supermarioelia on Jul 2, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
2007 playoffs
Beginning of year after Cy Young
In Oakland
When all over newspapers
When Sabathia is in the spotlight … Sabathia sucks.
The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.
So am I on to something, or not?
The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.
no doubt. still a mental midget. he’s improved his composure on the mound, but he’s not exceptionally clutch. at least not so far.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 2, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
they should hire a coach who focuses on hitting to correct things like that
by Fios on Jul 2, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Just looked at the lineup … has Gutz sucked (even more) lately or something? Why is Dellucci DHing? That’s ABSURD. BenFran should be DH, Choo can’t be worse in left than right, and let Gutz play right. I don’t understand what Wedge is doing this year. At all.
Il faut d'abord durer.
by CU Adam on Jul 2, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I’m sure it can be rationalized, but does anyone feel that this is the right move? That we’re a better team because Dellucci is getting at bats and not Gutz?
Il faut d'abord durer.
so we moved Michaels out instead of Dellucci b/c:
a. we thought dellucci could help us win more games
b. we though we could get more for michaels
c. michaels’ contract was easier to unload
which is it? i have no idea, but my guess is c.?
by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 2, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, if Dellucci is in the lineup, then he should be the DH – his arm is awful, and his range isn’t very good either.
But as to the question of whether he should be in the lineup, that’s another matter….
point one: very true.
point two: there is no earthly reason this guy should be getting ABs at this point
by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 2, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I have the Sox/Rays game on in the background … announcer just noted how fortunate the Rays are to draw several cellar teams including “the last place Indians” ... sigh
Go Carroll
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by new zealand tribe fan on Jul 2, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions
I think Shap gets a bad rap for “sitting on his hands” in the off-season. He added two good players to a roster of young guys that was one game from the world series. Sure, we needed a corner OF bat .. but that probably would have cost us Laffey/Lee to make it happen.
sweet fancy moses, the nightmare never ends
by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 2, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
way to go, human suckitude machine.
The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.
Kelvin Diaz continues to maul DSL pitching, to the tune of .400/.560/.960. He is, on the other hand, 21 years old, assuming the birthdate is accurate.
That’s all for me, need to pack. Go Tribe and if this is it for big C, it’s been truly a joy. I’ll never forget seeing him win Game 3 of the ALDS in his first big league season against the M’s in person at the Jake
It’s weird that there isn’t the anger directed at CC, isn’t it? I mean, think of the vitriol directed at Belle, Manny, and Thome. I realize every situation is different, but it’s pretty clear that we’ve mellowed collectively in a way.
Il faut d'abord durer.
Hammy
“You will see changes on this team before friday’s game”
The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.
LOoch has to be gone, right?
The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.
almost on target
Using the Baseball Reference “Neutralize Stats” button:
Year Ag G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB Avg OBP SLG OPS RC ActG
-------------------------------------------+2008 25 156 633 98 174 37 6 39 87 99 123 39 .275 .382 .537 .919 127 81Love watching Grady’s dot round the bases
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on Jul 2, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions
All alone atop the AL home run chart
The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.
It just dawned on me that, besides playing a spoiler later in the season against teams I dislike, (without looking at a schedule, I’d assume we have some games against playoff hopefuls in September), this might be the last Tribe game of the year where I really want to win, more than just because it’s more fun to watch a win than a loss. It’d be nice for CC to get a W, if this is going to be his last start with the Tribe.
Il faut d'abord durer.
our lsat 3 series are against Det, Cws and Bos.
The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.
Spectacular. I would give a LOT for the Twins to be within a couple games at the end, and the Rays and Sox tied, and then have the Tribe end the season on a 9 game winning streak.
Conversely, can you imagine how fun those series would have been if we were in the race at the end? That would have been awesome.
Il faut d'abord durer.
the twins are our 4th last series.
The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.
Sorry to sound stupid, what is the score? GameCast had Dye homering last innings, yet the score is still shown as 4-3 tribe?
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on Jul 2, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions
Thanks, thought you guys had gone soft on CC as there were no comments after the HR. Gamecast had it in the field of play.
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on Jul 2, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Crap
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on Jul 2, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions
My girlfriend just now: “Did these guys take some kind of payment to throw this season or something? This is bullshit!“
--
2008: let the hate flow through you.
rec girlfriend. she sounds like a keeper.
Free Andy Marte!
by woodsmeister on Jul 2, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
That might have been his final pitch.
Such awful words, but that’s reality. I’ll miss you CC. Keep in touch.
Hooray Loochstud!
The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.
Good time machine?
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on Jul 2, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
just tuned into the blog. what happened to CC? stock falling?
anyone watching the rays/sox game? my new team to root for the rest of the season.
One of these days... bang, zoom, straight to the moon...
too much spotlight.
The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.
haha. that’s kinda what i feared…
One of these days... bang, zoom, straight to the moon...
by mixmasterasia on Jul 2, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Rooting for the Cubs for the year … the media circus would be insane, and the sadistic part of me wants the Tribe to have the longest drought in baseball.
Il faut d'abord durer.
I know what you mean. I have no beef with the Cubs.
I’m selfish like that too.
One of these days... bang, zoom, straight to the moon...
by mixmasterasia on Jul 2, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
s
if we can’t have him, no one can!
One of these days... bang, zoom, straight to the moon...
by mixmasterasia on Jul 2, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
unless we want to market him more as a horse than a pitcher
The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.
PEDroia was a single away from a cycle in the Sox loss tonight … and he hit two doubles. I hate that guy.
Il faut d'abord durer.
good. punk.
The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.
(good that he missed the cycle, not good that he played well)
The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.
It just seems weird that if one of those doubles was a single, it’d be this big story. Instead, it’s just like he had a good night.
Il faut d'abord durer.
Our offense has historically done a great job of giving CC support. I expect the 9th inning to go well.
Grady!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on Jul 2, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply actions
One for the “Things I Freaking Hate” File: Steinbrenner runs his idiot mouth, and the Yankees respond with 18 runs. Life is not fair.
Il faut d'abord durer.
I know… that’s what I said when I saw the box score.
Both of our minor teams (Buff and Akron) are starting to hit the snot out of the ball.
Grady sez: “There — I jacked one for you, no L in your final start. Now we’re finished — you can get the fuck out of my clubhouse.”
No, I just banned myself.
Had an irritating day, and this feels like our tenth irritating game in a row. Watching this season has gotten to be like sleeping on a bed of nails.
I’m sure I’m way behind, but I’d like to go on record as disliking the new avatar. BRING BACK GEORGE!
Il faut d'abord durer.
Those were the days
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on Jul 2, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
The Garko lunge makes a return visit.
I used to know a Garko guy that hit 30 doubles and 20 homeruns .. he played for the Indians not too long ago.
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Hahah .. too perfect. AJ fu-ing Pierzinski
Whats that? 31 (?) homeruns the bullpen has allowed now?
Wedge said he would be in meetings tomorrow to decide what decisions to make, including the closer situation and JoBo.
We’ll see who’s gone by Friday.
I like how Hammy had a mocking tone knowing this team was done and about to get blowed up (hat tip to Emmitt Smith).
The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.
Really it should have never come down to the 10th. We had bases loaded a few times (Choo on 3rd with no outs) and that Casey Blake error.
Just a bad team not doing the little things.
maybe its time to forget all i’ve learned and start hoping for more grit.
Kevin @ Black Shoe Diaries
Jay reassure me here, there’s no way we DFA Marte, right? We haven’t lost all semblance of common sense have we?
Of course it would make no sense, but I’m just very afraid that in some twisted way they see him as part of the problem. It’s sad that I have such little faith in all things Shap, but I just don’t know anymore. I feel lost.
by supermarioelia on Jul 2, 2008 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless they get Laroche from LA in a deal, who is going to play 3B?
If they get LaPorta, he needs time in AAA and will play 1B or LF. Gamel won’t stay at 3B either.
As obvious as it seems to ship Blake, I wouldn’t put it past them to keep him aboard as some sort of team-building exercise. Geez I’m actually nervous for these moves. Just let it be over.
by supermarioelia on Jul 2, 2008 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Pride of North Olmsted gets 2 consecutive victories over the Indians.
His father called into WTAM post-game show last night and was a very nice guy and a long-time
Indians fan, who took his son to many games at the Jake.
How much do we think these errors are bringing down Casey’s trade value? Sure he’s hitting, but teams have to be a tad concerned about his fielding, no? Can we DH him until he gets traded to stop the bleeding a bit?
i don't know if we can do without dellucci's power
we might fall out of the race.
Kevin @ Black Shoe Diaries
Ponson et al gets 18 runs in support after Hank S. blasts the Yanks’ offense.
Of course, the Yanks were losing until the Rangers brought in a raw rookie in the 7th.
So I’m totally pumped to go to the Cell… expecting Jason Fucking Stanford or somebody to take the hill instead of the recently traded Sabathia…. well not quite. Fine. Still treated to Dellucci make outs twice with the bases loaded (the 2nd time I’m screaming at Blake to swing at absolutely anything to maybe get a gift hit and avoid Dellucci, nope, he walks, whatever).
Of course this is the time where Sabathia doesn’t quite have it in the early innings… no big deal, we seem to be stringing things together against Contreras. Well, not for long I guess. Francisco decides to swing on 3 and 0 with a runner on 3rd and nobody out… love to hear how he had the green light.
Wedge comes to the mound to finally relieve Sabathia… great, I can finally applaud the big left hander after he leaves the mound… uh not quite, I guess he decides to pull a Grady Little, let’s make him over-extend with a pitch after he’s thrown 120!!! So much for that opportunity in emeny territory.
Well, Grady homers again and I hit the road. To another fucking loss. There is no keel on this ship, there is no rudder, there is no pulse. Sweet dreams Tribe. Thanks for even making C.C’s probable last start another trash bin effort.
by cheech99 on Jul 3, 2008 12:02 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
C.C. also gave up a big RBI double to Brian Anderson. He helped. Nothing to be angry about. This is baseball. 2008 sucks. 2007 was great. 2009 will be great too.
I’m sure Chuck will let you borrow his Flomax.
by supermarioelia on Jul 3, 2008 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I can’t believe I still have a sense of humour at this point.
by supermarioelia on Jul 3, 2008 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
ugh, AJ hit the walkoff? p.s. grady is so good
by Gradyforpresident on Jul 3, 2008 10:07 AM EDT reply actions
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