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Game Thread: July 23, 2008

Cleveland Indians @ Los Angeles Angels


Cleveland at Los Angeles, 3:35 PM (STO)

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Cleveland
G. Sizemore cf
D. Dellucci dh
B. Francisco rf
J. Peralta ss
S. Choo lf
R. Garko 1b
A. Marte 3b
S. Fasano c
A. Cabrera 2b

LA Angels
C. Figgins 3b
C. Kotchman 1b
E. Aybar ss
V. Guerrero dh
J. Rivera rf
H. Kendrick 2b
G. Anderson lf
G. Matthews Jr. cf
J. Mathis c

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 23, 2008 3:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

From Castrovince…..

This has nothing to do with anything, really, but Masa Kobayashi is wearing a T-shirt that says, “I’m huge in Japan.” It was given to him on this trip by Paul Byrd.

by bogey021 on Jul 23, 2008 3:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We gave my cousin one of those for his frequent business trips to Japan. He’s about 6’4” and 230.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 23, 2008 5:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I liked the lineup better last night i think. Who pinch hits for marte tonight with the game on the line?

¡Free Chan Perry!

by TheVanillaGorilla on Jul 23, 2008 3:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why do you ask this? It’s sooooooooo obvious.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 3:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I feel stupid. The water in mexico is very bad. That’s it.

¡Free Chan Perry!

by TheVanillaGorilla on Jul 23, 2008 3:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha this was really well done. Wow.

by supermarioelia on Jul 23, 2008 10:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Detroit beating KC, 5-0, bottom 5
Texas beating Whine Sox, 5-3, bottom 4

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 23, 2008 3:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wishful thinking to hope that Blake is included in a trade, and thus not in the lineup?

Thought so.

by bewwolv on Jul 23, 2008 3:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah. Hey TV watchers, let us know when you spot Casey in the dugout.

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 3:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good call. Seems like an odd time for a day off. Then again . . . i feel safe in saying showcasing the bearded one to other teams may not be wedge’s top priority.

¡Free Chan Perry!

by TheVanillaGorilla on Jul 23, 2008 3:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Probably just giving Garko more rope with which to hang himself and grease the skids for his impending stay in Buffalo.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 23, 2008 3:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

was just thinking this myself.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 3:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dellucci, Garko and Fasano? Wedge must be afraid the official scorer is running low on pencils.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 3:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FWIW, Dellucci’s batting .313 in 16 lifetime at-bats vs. Lackey. So we’ve got that going for us, which is nice.

by bogey021 on Jul 23, 2008 3:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Correction: not lifetime, just 2003-2007.

by bogey021 on Jul 23, 2008 3:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hammy just jinxed Grady.

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 3:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow, a day game on my Bday, while I’m at work … gonna be tough to get work done this afternoon ;)

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 3:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Happy Birthday.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 23, 2008 3:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s not my birthday, but i am supposed to be working on finals now. I welcome the distraction.

¡Free Chan Perry!

by TheVanillaGorilla on Jul 23, 2008 3:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am actually sitting in a study room right now. afh and APV hooked me in w/ Kelvin’s debut, and I stuck around for the gamethread. I’m gonna be here all night.

by bewwolv on Jul 23, 2008 3:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My lab closes at 8 unfortunately, but there’s always tomorrow. I did enjoy re-reading that thread.

¡Free Chan Perry!

by TheVanillaGorilla on Jul 23, 2008 3:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Always tomorrow indeed. I have high hopes for Lord Kelvin (and Rondon).

by bewwolv on Jul 23, 2008 3:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

laFFey vs laCKey …. let’s go F’s!!!!

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 3:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Angels crew was more impressed with that out than I was.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 3:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Am I allowed to avoid the non-drinking rules today? ;)

If so, let’s go Grady, Jhonny, Benny, Choo … all starting for me today in my fantasy league

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 3:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s 5 o’clock somewhere.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 23, 2008 3:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Your league is either really deep, or your a big fan of average players.

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 3:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Never draft with your heart.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 3:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Didn’t, drafted Jhonny after his IL MVP, Grady the year he got promoted … Choo and Ben wer waiver wire pickups due to my 10 guys on the DL

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 3:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It is a deep league … 10 owners … All positions plus 2 UTIl and a DH with 9 pitchers

I also have Fausto and Hafner

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 3:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So, you’re saying you are in second to last place.

by Toxicadam on Jul 23, 2008 3:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually, tied in 3rd place right now …

When I said 10 owners, meant for the AL … have same 10 owners and we all have NL teams too (we moved Pitt to AL to balace the leagues

right now I am using Varitek, Laroche, Roberts, Jhonny and Bautista in the IF, Benny, Grady and Abreu in the OF

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 3:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My DL had Hafner, Fausto, Bedard, Matsui, and Chavez on it right now

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 3:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pffft – Hafner – don’t you ever read my posts?

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Jul 23, 2008 3:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, but this is a keeper league … have had him since we got him from Texas.

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 3:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I traded Sabathia for Cano and Longoria. Why the hell is that not possible in real life?

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 3:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Grady and Jhonny are roster worthy in any mixed league. The others are not a stretch in an AL-only league.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 23, 2008 3:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jhonny with the RhBI

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 3:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now that was a good AB by Peralta.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 3:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

General questions about Blake:

Is he an unrestricted FA next season?

If yes, what kind of contract could he get? I would imagine it would be a multi year deal for 20-30% than he made in 2008.

If yes, than we would be incredibly retarded for not trading him.

by Toxicadam on Jul 23, 2008 3:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Isn’t the main question a comparison between a prospect and the possible picks we will get if he is a type A free agent?

¡Free Chan Perry!

by TheVanillaGorilla on Jul 23, 2008 3:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FA, yes. There are minor league free agents, but there’s no type of restricted free agency in baseball.

He probably will find a team that will go 3 years, $15-18M. Maybe 2 years, $14M.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 3:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah yeah, you’re right. Makes me want to trade him that much more.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Jul 23, 2008 3:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I believe he’s still arbitration-eligible, but I’m too lazy to look it up.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Jul 23, 2008 3:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nope. He’s a free agent.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 3:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Peralta now batting .500 against Lackey.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 3:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love afternoon games. They make me so much less productive.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Jul 23, 2008 3:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And you get paid to be here!

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 3:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Galarraga (DET) has a no-no through six innings against the Royals.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 3:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

would be the 2nd to no-hit the Royals this year. That’s not good.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 3:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

With how poorly we hit earlier this year, shocked we didn’t have one thrown against us.

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I heart errors.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 3:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Made by other teams, yes.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 3:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Garko just doesn’t have a clue right now.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 3:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey look, Garko still sucks.

by Toxicadam on Jul 23, 2008 3:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Andy, dude, at least look at a couple pitches.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 23, 2008 3:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I disagree with this. Watching early strikes is what made him so horrible early this year.

by Toxicadam on Jul 23, 2008 3:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Should the error have been a double play?

¡Free Chan Perry!

by TheVanillaGorilla on Jul 23, 2008 3:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thankyou.

¡Free Chan Perry!

by TheVanillaGorilla on Jul 23, 2008 3:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don’t thank me, thank Mr. Lackey.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 3:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Game is on TV with my free week of extra innings. I’ll cut out of work early to catch the last couple innings.

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 3:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also are we going to get good Laffey or bad Laffey?

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 3:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

5.22 ERA for Laffey since June 1st? Ewwww.

by Toxicadam on Jul 23, 2008 3:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thats not trending the way we want it to.

by bewwolv on Jul 23, 2008 3:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ooh. Was Figgins on the field? I feel like guys always run inside the line on a bunt like that trying to get in the way of the throw.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Jul 23, 2008 3:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hurray for interference.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 3:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did Sciosca argue the call?

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 3:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not with any vigor. He’s made the throw into the back enough times himself to know better.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 3:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OHH YES

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 3:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Westbrook Junior does it again.

by Toxicadam on Jul 23, 2008 3:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Scioscia will bat anybody third in his lineup.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 3:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, but would he bat Dellucci second?

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 3:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

NOBODY is that dumb.

Oh wait.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Apparently the 3 hole belongs to the shortstop in Scioscia World. He batted Izturis there last night.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 23, 2008 3:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ooo …. 6 pitch innings are soooo nice.

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 3:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Versus 32 pitch innings for the Bad Guys

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Jul 23, 2008 3:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually, Galarraga is throwing a perfect game, not just a no-hitter.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DeJesus just singled.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Jul 23, 2008 4:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess the Tigers will have to settle for just another rout.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

anybody got asdrubal’s numbers since recall?

by Brick. on Jul 23, 2008 4:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/gl.cgi?share=1&n1=cabreas01&year=2008&t=b#98:101:sum—.267/.313/.646 in 16 PA.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Jul 23, 2008 4:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oops, that didn’t work. Try http://tinyurl.com/5uo98u

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Jul 23, 2008 4:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey zempf ya still think that Ankiels AAA OPS meant anything?

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Jul 23, 2008 4:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you definitely won this one

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 23, 2008 4:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, I’m not even responding anymore. Whatever.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Jul 23, 2008 4:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i thought i was looking at a .959 OPS for a second.

¡Free Chan Perry!

by TheVanillaGorilla on Jul 23, 2008 4:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oops, left a field out there.. but yeah, not so great.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Jul 23, 2008 4:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You like how I was too lazy to make a link out of that, but not too lazy to make a tinyurl out of it? Hrmpf.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Jul 23, 2008 4:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

do you end everything with mpf?

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There goes everything for Armando. Except the shutout.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bad AB by Asdrubal. He’s still bailing.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was about the lamest offensive inning I’ve ever seen. Sal and AsCab couldn’t have killed mosquitos with those swings.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Since when did Wednesday become get away day? I thought we were playing tonight. How am I ever going to get any work done?

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2008 4:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If it’s the final game of a series on the West Coast you mean?

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yea. I found out at 3:38 that we started at 3:35 not 3:55 like someone told me yesterday.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

3.55 is the Fox time on Saturday’s; sort of like the White Sox have 7:11

by palcal on Jul 23, 2008 4:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

F

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Josh Barfield was supposed to be our Howie Kendrick. :(

by Toxicadam on Jul 23, 2008 4:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kevin Kouzmanoff was supp… aw F it.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A bloop, a dribbler, and a solid hit ball.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is this a fresh game, or a replay of last night?

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 4:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh no…this is a fresh treat for you.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

by the way, found the preseason prediction thread

I maybe got 2 correct … nice Mendoza line average

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

awesome. was looking for this after i posted in the 2nd half thread.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

These 2 of mine = good. The rest suck.

Fultz gone before the all-star break

Sizemore puts up career-high numbers

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

some of yours were spot on … others .. not soo good .. kinda like me ;)

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

jury’s still out on these:

Marte continues to suck
Gutierrez… ummm… is good. (specific, I know.)

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

here’s another one:
IF the Indians are dumb enough to trade Michaels, he turns out to be a steal for whomever gets him.

by westbrook

by Toxicadam on Jul 23, 2008 4:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hhehehheh – he has been decent.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

.718 OPS with the Pirates. 25 RBI.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

some called Lee rebound – some called Lee flop. Genius/goat.

by joeee on Jul 23, 2008 4:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so true so true

without the injuries, I might have been ok with mine … but c’est la vie

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Skinny Shortstop~

by Toxicadam on Jul 23, 2008 4:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Laffey is just too often working from behind.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jesus Fasano. Quit baseball. Please.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Game tied on what is ruled a wild pitch but more likely to be called a passed ball.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 23, 2008 4:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Passed ball on which Sal moved about 12 microns.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

URGHHHHHHHH

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fred…you still heart errors?

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not like that one.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Indian Killer Jeff Mathis?!?

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

single to center, he woulda scored anyways

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

By the rule book, yes. But it doesn’t work that way in reality. There’s no way the pitcher throws the ball in the same exact spot and the same exact swing happens. But yea, that’s just being technical. Mathis coulda hit a bomb too, so w/e.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And that base hit makes the run earned.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 23, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Hammy

no way Ginter clears waivers.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

New long man/spot starter to take over the Elarton role? Mastny or Eddie Moo goes down because of options?

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 23, 2008 4:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no way Eddie Moo goes down, unless he gives up 6 runs in an inning before the decision time.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s Ginter. He can go away. John Halama just threw his second consecutive 9-inning CG for Buffalo. If the Indians really need another arm, they can go get Halama.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here’s a thought: BLAKE TRADE or better; LOOCH DFA.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How many of us have been calling for a Looch DFA for about a month and half now?

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2008 4:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

105% of us.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 9:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i don’t see how this is a big problem.

by Brick. on Jul 23, 2008 4:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mastny hardly ever gets into a game . I’m sure he could spne a few weeks or month in Buffalo.

by palcal on Jul 23, 2008 4:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OK, back to square 1 … get em boys!!!!!!!

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Laffey was just making up for his six-pitch first. Didnt want to screw up his averages.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m pretty sure this is a rerun.

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 4:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We’ve all been watching the Indians give up leads all year. So in that regard, yes.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, I saw this one last night. I won’t ruin it for you though.

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 4:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Finally, the game is unstuck from re-run mode.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2008 4:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh wait

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2008 4:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Mathis hits a go-ahead HR, I’m leaving.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wish this comment didnt happen.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Jul 23, 2008 5:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 9:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, I had that same thought when I logged back on. Crap.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2008 4:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Looks like a script I have seen before. Tribe gets to a pitcher early, then climbs into a hole for the next 8 innings.

Meh.

by Toxicadam on Jul 23, 2008 4:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Obviously, the Indians have not learned the first rule of holes: when you’re in one, stop digging.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 23, 2008 4:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow, i think I heard that on the Herd this morning in regards to Favre … pretty comical.

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow. Useless swings.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is it time to start talking about drinking and/or Batman yet?

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ok. Garko and Fasano are up to something today.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah. i’m ready to cut bait with garko.

by Brick. on Jul 23, 2008 4:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

20/20 alert!! we shoulda dealt him in the offseason ;)

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You could just send him down. There’s that tasty Mulhern vacancy in Buffalo.

by fleerdon on Jul 23, 2008 4:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Took you long enough

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Any reason why Choo is in LF and Benny in RF today?

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is Choo’s second night in LF.

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 4:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yea, I’m not sure if they’re being showcased. Or just evaluated internally. Or both.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or Wedge is just drawing his lineups out of a hat, which would also explain Garko and Dellucci.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Do you think Shapiro’s been drawing his free agents out of a hat?

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 4:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dellucci hit the crap out of righties in the handful of seasons leading up to his deal. While 3 years may have been too long, the guy just crapped himself.

Paul Byrd’s been pretty nifty. Beats Mark Mulder, Jon Leiber, and Matt Clement. I also consider Blake, Howry, and Betancourt free agents.

Giles was a good target, and Hoffman would have been nice at the back end. The Indians can’t afford “sure-things,” but they’ve targeted decent talent.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Vlad’s fly too short? or didnt want to test Ben’s arm?

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So short it looked like he might not catch it at all.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Way too short. And Kotchman is slow.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And I’m here.

What happened to Laffy? Don’t tell me I’m going to have to throw away this HOF plaque I smelted in June?

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 4:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fasano and garko suckily demonstrated their defensive suckiness, plus a few hits.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And Laffey averts disaster … this time

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anybody check Peralta’s hot/cold chart? Seven of the nine hitting zones are “cold”.

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Jul 23, 2008 4:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what tired of picking on Garko and Hafner, your next target is Jhonny?

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chuck the LGT bully.

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 4:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hafner’s a dead issue. I still think that Garko’s a ML ballplayer. Peralta’s future is a third – but probably not with the Tribe.

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Jul 23, 2008 4:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He’s not going to win a gold glove at 3B either. He’s not hurting the Indians with his defense at SS. If he was, do you think the FO would really leave him there? The gain in his defense at 3B won’t offset the loss in his offense (SS vs 3B).

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He’s not getting any younger. I think I see a loss of mobility over the last 2-3 years and I don’t see him getting it back. With time he’s gonna hafta move. And yeah, I think that our FO misses a few things an makes an occasional mistake.

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Jul 23, 2008 4:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The reason the Indians have twice put together a 90-win team is because they don’t make decisions based on what they “think they see.”

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If they get credit for the two 90 win seasons then they get to wear the jacket for this year’s stinker.

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Jul 23, 2008 4:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A loss in mobility … for a 26 year old? Really? must have been an off-season car accident or something.

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Could be that extra 20 pounds he’s carrying.

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Jul 23, 2008 4:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And oh yeah talonk, here’s a concept that seems to elude most site residents here: not everybody ages at the same rate.

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Jul 23, 2008 4:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No duh Sherlock … but as a glorified physician that you are, you must admit that a guy aging that quickly from 23-26 is extremely uncommon.

Stop pulling crud out of your rear. Am sick and tired of it.

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really don’t give a shit what you’re sick and tired of.

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Jul 23, 2008 4:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can tell you from experience that car accidents are NOTHING to joke about!!

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 23, 2008 5:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know, wasn’t trying to poke fun at that.

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 5:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, I realized you were just joking. I was just trying to be funny.

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 23, 2008 5:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why is a 20+ HR 80+ RBI right handed 3B such a liability, offensively? Im sure there are other plausible SS options, not the least of which is drubs if he pulls his head out of his asshole.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Jul 23, 2008 5:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mike Mussina has turned it around, again. Dude’s having a pretty good year.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

On a single? Worst time machine ever.

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 4:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

After all those outs in a row, I’m ready to cheer for anything.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How can you not love this guy? He’s just trying to stay out of the ROK Army.

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 4:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Choo’s magic helmet does it again

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Magic helmet? What is this magic helmet you speak of?

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 4:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LMAOOO

Brick is back on board with Garko now!

by Toxicadam on Jul 23, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

GARKO!!! OMG!!

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow. Clearly we just need to rip on Garko some more.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Jul 23, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That is so completely unexpected I don’t even know what to say.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Garko—trying to keep his spot on next year’s team.

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 23, 2008 4:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Trade Garko now!!!!

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Garko sucks. Ryan, assume before every AB that I have just noted your suckiness. That is all.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Garko being Garko. You just hope he hits his 15-18 HR in meaningful situations.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Marte walk. W O W

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

way to work that count Andy!!

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Control yourself, Sal.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another 12-15 steps, he he’d have beat that one out. Nice bunt, though.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Fasano is not allowed to bat, then why is he a catcher in the MLB? They can’t find some other schmuck to at least try to hit?

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 4:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why are we bunting? WTF. Seriously this pisses me off. IT’S THE THRID GD INNING.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 4:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’d rather Sal bunt than GIDP.

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just don’t see this as a statistically significant possibility.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 4:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why does Sal kneel when he bunts? Can his knees not support the wwight of his facial hair?

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sal is particularly talented from his knees.

by Fredward on Jul 23, 2008 4:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

How has Astro been doing since he got back? I saw he got four hits yesterday.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he went 2-4 yesterday

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I want a Fasano/Molina race. Someone should set that up.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Jul 23, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Garko can probably run in that.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Walk, bunt, HBP. Just like Wedge drew it up.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here comes a Grady bomb.

You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person

by jakesinger777 on Jul 23, 2008 4:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

8ball says Not Even Close

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why so serious?

You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person

by jakesinger777 on Jul 23, 2008 4:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you thought serious? c’mon man …

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BOOOM

You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person

by jakesinger777 on Jul 23, 2008 4:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hm….that curveball is wicked.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well then, c’mon Grady.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dellucci with two hard-hit balls today. That’s just not fair.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so what’s his HHB% this year now?

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m sure we can find out in his blog.

by Fredward on Jul 23, 2008 4:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Marte goes down 0-2 then walks?

That seems vaguely significant.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 4:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

big picture moment.

BIG PICTURE MOMENT.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 4:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Laffey don’t give the lead back please,

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kendrick is pretty good.

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He’s a freak. In 203 ABs, he has 5 walks. Very dangerous to have a guy who needs to hit .320 to have value…but Kendrick apparently hits .320.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ok. So Kendrick has destroyed the Indians this series, and they’ve only pitched him away. Perhaps its time to start pitching IN.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He’d probably just turn on it and hit it a mile. I vote carefully pitch around him.

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 4:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He’ll swing at it. You just make him swing at your pitch.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

is that three 2Bs for the Angels today? Laffey giving hard hit balls so far.

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know who sort of sucks?

Aaron Laffey.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 4:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yea, John Lackey too.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why? Especially if its true.

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 4:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just don’t want to start thinking that Laffey is going to become the new Sowers.

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 4:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m already there.

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 4:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really didn’t think Laffey-Lackey would be higher-scoring than Weaver-Ginter.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s why they play ‘em.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was almost a dive. Or a tumble. Or something.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Off day tomorrow. Let’s burn the bullpen, Wedge. Don’t let this one get crazy.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

THey call him Figgy? Gross.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 4:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs