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Game Thread: July 23, 2008

Cleveland Indians at Los Angeles Angels, Jul 23, 2008 3:35 PM EDT


Cleveland at Los Angeles, 3:35 PM (STO)

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Cleveland
G. Sizemore cf
D. Dellucci dh
B. Francisco rf
J. Peralta ss
S. Choo lf
R. Garko 1b
A. Marte 3b
S. Fasano c
A. Cabrera 2b

LA Angels
C. Figgins 3b
C. Kotchman 1b
E. Aybar ss
V. Guerrero dh
J. Rivera rf
H. Kendrick 2b
G. Anderson lf
G. Matthews Jr. cf
J. Mathis c

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 23, 2008 3:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

From Castrovince…..

This has nothing to do with anything, really, but Masa Kobayashi is wearing a T-shirt that says, “I’m huge in Japan.” It was given to him on this trip by Paul Byrd.

by bogey021 on Jul 23, 2008 3:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We gave my cousin one of those for his frequent business trips to Japan. He’s about 6’4” and 230.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 23, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

afternoon game? hmm

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 23, 2008 3:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I liked the lineup better last night i think. Who pinch hits for marte tonight with the game on the line?

¡Free Chan Perry!

by TheVanillaGorilla on Jul 23, 2008 3:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why do you ask this? It’s sooooooooo obvious.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel stupid. The water in mexico is very bad. That’s it.

¡Free Chan Perry!

by TheVanillaGorilla on Jul 23, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha this was really well done. Wow.

by supermarioelia on Jul 23, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Detroit beating KC, 5-0, bottom 5
Texas beating Whine Sox, 5-3, bottom 4

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 23, 2008 3:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wishful thinking to hope that Blake is included in a trade, and thus not in the lineup?

Thought so.

by bewwolv on Jul 23, 2008 3:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah. Hey TV watchers, let us know when you spot Casey in the dugout.

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good call. Seems like an odd time for a day off. Then again . . . i feel safe in saying showcasing the bearded one to other teams may not be wedge’s top priority.

¡Free Chan Perry!

by TheVanillaGorilla on Jul 23, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably just giving Garko more rope with which to hang himself and grease the skids for his impending stay in Buffalo.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 23, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

was just thinking this myself.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dellucci, Garko and Fasano? Wedge must be afraid the official scorer is running low on pencils.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 3:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FWIW, Dellucci’s batting .313 in 16 lifetime at-bats vs. Lackey. So we’ve got that going for us, which is nice.

by bogey021 on Jul 23, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Correction: not lifetime, just 2003-2007.

by bogey021 on Jul 23, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hammy just jinxed Grady.

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 3:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, a day game on my Bday, while I’m at work … gonna be tough to get work done this afternoon ;)

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 3:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Happy Birthday.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 23, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s not my birthday, but i am supposed to be working on finals now. I welcome the distraction.

¡Free Chan Perry!

by TheVanillaGorilla on Jul 23, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am actually sitting in a study room right now. afh and APV hooked me in w/ Kelvin’s debut, and I stuck around for the gamethread. I’m gonna be here all night.

by bewwolv on Jul 23, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My lab closes at 8 unfortunately, but there’s always tomorrow. I did enjoy re-reading that thread.

¡Free Chan Perry!

by TheVanillaGorilla on Jul 23, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Always tomorrow indeed. I have high hopes for Lord Kelvin (and Rondon).

by bewwolv on Jul 23, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Happy Birthday

by bogey021 on Jul 23, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thx all!!!

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Happy bday

by bewwolv on Jul 23, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

laFFey vs laCKey …. let’s go F’s!!!!

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 3:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Angels crew was more impressed with that out than I was.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 3:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Am I allowed to avoid the non-drinking rules today? ;)

If so, let’s go Grady, Jhonny, Benny, Choo … all starting for me today in my fantasy league

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 3:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s 5 o’clock somewhere.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 23, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your league is either really deep, or your a big fan of average players.

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never draft with your heart.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn’t, drafted Jhonny after his IL MVP, Grady the year he got promoted … Choo and Ben wer waiver wire pickups due to my 10 guys on the DL

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is a deep league … 10 owners … All positions plus 2 UTIl and a DH with 9 pitchers

I also have Fausto and Hafner

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, you’re saying you are in second to last place.

by Toxicadam on Jul 23, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, tied in 3rd place right now …

When I said 10 owners, meant for the AL … have same 10 owners and we all have NL teams too (we moved Pitt to AL to balace the leagues

right now I am using Varitek, Laroche, Roberts, Jhonny and Bautista in the IF, Benny, Grady and Abreu in the OF

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My DL had Hafner, Fausto, Bedard, Matsui, and Chavez on it right now

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pffft – Hafner – don’t you ever read my posts?

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Jul 23, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does anyone?

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but this is a keeper league … have had him since we got him from Texas.

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I traded Sabathia for Cano and Longoria. Why the hell is that not possible in real life?

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grady and Jhonny are roster worthy in any mixed league. The others are not a stretch in an AL-only league.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 23, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jhonny with the RhBI

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 3:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Now that was a good AB by Peralta.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 3:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

General questions about Blake:

Is he an unrestricted FA next season?

If yes, what kind of contract could he get? I would imagine it would be a multi year deal for 20-30% than he made in 2008.

If yes, than we would be incredibly retarded for not trading him.

by Toxicadam on Jul 23, 2008 3:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Isn’t the main question a comparison between a prospect and the possible picks we will get if he is a type A free agent?

¡Free Chan Perry!

by TheVanillaGorilla on Jul 23, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FA, yes. There are minor league free agents, but there’s no type of restricted free agency in baseball.

He probably will find a team that will go 3 years, $15-18M. Maybe 2 years, $14M.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah yeah, you’re right. Makes me want to trade him that much more.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Jul 23, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe he’s still arbitration-eligible, but I’m too lazy to look it up.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Jul 23, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope. He’s a free agent.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Peralta now batting .500 against Lackey.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 3:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love afternoon games. They make me so much less productive.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Jul 23, 2008 3:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And you get paid to be here!

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Galarraga (DET) has a no-no through six innings against the Royals.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 3:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

would be the 2nd to no-hit the Royals this year. That’s not good.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With how poorly we hit earlier this year, shocked we didn’t have one thrown against us.

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I heart errors.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 3:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Made by other teams, yes.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Garko just doesn’t have a clue right now.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 3:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey look, Garko still sucks.

by Toxicadam on Jul 23, 2008 3:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Andy, dude, at least look at a couple pitches.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 23, 2008 3:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I disagree with this. Watching early strikes is what made him so horrible early this year.

by Toxicadam on Jul 23, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Should the error have been a double play?

¡Free Chan Perry!

by TheVanillaGorilla on Jul 23, 2008 3:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thankyou.

¡Free Chan Perry!

by TheVanillaGorilla on Jul 23, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don’t thank me, thank Mr. Lackey.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Game is on TV with my free week of extra innings. I’ll cut out of work early to catch the last couple innings.

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 3:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Also are we going to get good Laffey or bad Laffey?

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 3:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

5.22 ERA for Laffey since June 1st? Ewwww.

by Toxicadam on Jul 23, 2008 3:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thats not trending the way we want it to.

by bewwolv on Jul 23, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ooh. Was Figgins on the field? I feel like guys always run inside the line on a bunt like that trying to get in the way of the throw.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Jul 23, 2008 3:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

By several feet.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hurray for interference.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 3:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Did Sciosca argue the call?

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not with any vigor. He’s made the throw into the back enough times himself to know better.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OHH YES

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 3:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Westbrook Junior does it again.

by Toxicadam on Jul 23, 2008 3:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Scioscia will bat anybody third in his lineup.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 3:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but would he bat Dellucci second?

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NOBODY is that dumb.

Oh wait.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently the 3 hole belongs to the shortstop in Scioscia World. He batted Izturis there last night.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 23, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ooo …. 6 pitch innings are soooo nice.

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 3:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Versus 32 pitch innings for the Bad Guys

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Jul 23, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, Galarraga is throwing a perfect game, not just a no-hitter.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DeJesus just singled.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Jul 23, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess the Tigers will have to settle for just another rout.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

anybody got asdrubal’s numbers since recall?

by Brick. on Jul 23, 2008 4:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/gl.cgi?share=1&n1=cabreas01&year=2008&t=b#98:101:sum—.267/.313/.646 in 16 PA.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Jul 23, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops, that didn’t work. Try http://tinyurl.com/5uo98u

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Jul 23, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey zempf ya still think that Ankiels AAA OPS meant anything?

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Jul 23, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you definitely won this one

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 23, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I’m not even responding anymore. Whatever.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Jul 23, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i thought i was looking at a .959 OPS for a second.

¡Free Chan Perry!

by TheVanillaGorilla on Jul 23, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops, left a field out there.. but yeah, not so great.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Jul 23, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You like how I was too lazy to make a link out of that, but not too lazy to make a tinyurl out of it? Hrmpf.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Jul 23, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

do you end everything with mpf?

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks gents!

by Brick. on Jul 23, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There goes everything for Armando. Except the shutout.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bad AB by Asdrubal. He’s still bailing.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That was about the lamest offensive inning I’ve ever seen. Sal and AsCab couldn’t have killed mosquitos with those swings.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Since when did Wednesday become get away day? I thought we were playing tonight. How am I ever going to get any work done?

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2008 4:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If it’s the final game of a series on the West Coast you mean?

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea. I found out at 3:38 that we started at 3:35 not 3:55 like someone told me yesterday.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

3.55 is the Fox time on Saturday’s; sort of like the White Sox have 7:11

by palcal on Jul 23, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

F

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Josh Barfield was supposed to be our Howie Kendrick. :(

by Toxicadam on Jul 23, 2008 4:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kevin Kouzmanoff was supp… aw F it.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A bloop, a dribbler, and a solid hit ball.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is this a fresh game, or a replay of last night?

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 4:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh no…this is a fresh treat for you.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coulda fooled me.

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

by the way, found the preseason prediction thread

I maybe got 2 correct … nice Mendoza line average

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

awesome. was looking for this after i posted in the 2nd half thread.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

These 2 of mine = good. The rest suck.

Fultz gone before the all-star break

Sizemore puts up career-high numbers

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

some of yours were spot on … others .. not soo good .. kinda like me ;)

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

jury’s still out on these:

Marte continues to suck
Gutierrez… ummm… is good. (specific, I know.)

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

here’s another one:
IF the Indians are dumb enough to trade Michaels, he turns out to be a steal for whomever gets him.

by westbrook

by Toxicadam on Jul 23, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hhehehheh – he has been decent.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

.718 OPS with the Pirates. 25 RBI.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

some called Lee rebound – some called Lee flop. Genius/goat.

by joeee on Jul 23, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so true so true

without the injuries, I might have been ok with mine … but c’est la vie

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Skinny Shortstop~

by Toxicadam on Jul 23, 2008 4:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Laffey is just too often working from behind.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jesus Fasano. Quit baseball. Please.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

que pasa?

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Game tied on what is ruled a wild pitch but more likely to be called a passed ball.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 23, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Passed ball on which Sal moved about 12 microns.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

URGHHHHHHHH

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fred…you still heart errors?

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not like that one.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indian Killer Jeff Mathis?!?

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

single to center, he woulda scored anyways

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

By the rule book, yes. But it doesn’t work that way in reality. There’s no way the pitcher throws the ball in the same exact spot and the same exact swing happens. But yea, that’s just being technical. Mathis coulda hit a bomb too, so w/e.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And that base hit makes the run earned.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 23, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Hammy

no way Ginter clears waivers.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

New long man/spot starter to take over the Elarton role? Mastny or Eddie Moo goes down because of options?

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 23, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no way Eddie Moo goes down, unless he gives up 6 runs in an inning before the decision time.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s Ginter. He can go away. John Halama just threw his second consecutive 9-inning CG for Buffalo. If the Indians really need another arm, they can go get Halama.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here’s a thought: BLAKE TRADE or better; LOOCH DFA.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can I have both?

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many of us have been calling for a Looch DFA for about a month and half now?

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

105% of us.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don’t see how this is a big problem.

by Brick. on Jul 23, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mastny hardly ever gets into a game . I’m sure he could spne a few weeks or month in Buffalo.

by palcal on Jul 23, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, back to square 1 … get em boys!!!!!!!

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Laffey was just making up for his six-pitch first. Didnt want to screw up his averages.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m pretty sure this is a rerun.

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 4:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We’ve all been watching the Indians give up leads all year. So in that regard, yes.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I saw this one last night. I won’t ruin it for you though.

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Finally, the game is unstuck from re-run mode.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh wait

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Mathis hits a go-ahead HR, I’m leaving.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish this comment didnt happen.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Jul 23, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I had that same thought when I logged back on. Crap.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like a script I have seen before. Tribe gets to a pitcher early, then climbs into a hole for the next 8 innings.

Meh.

by Toxicadam on Jul 23, 2008 4:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Obviously, the Indians have not learned the first rule of holes: when you’re in one, stop digging.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 23, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow, i think I heard that on the Herd this morning in regards to Favre … pretty comical.

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow. Useless swings.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is it time to start talking about drinking and/or Batman yet?

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

See? This is a rerun.

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok. Garko and Fasano are up to something today.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, sucking.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah. i’m ready to cut bait with garko.

by Brick. on Jul 23, 2008 4:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

20/20 alert!! we shoulda dealt him in the offseason ;)

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You could just send him down. There’s that tasty Mulhern vacancy in Buffalo.

by fleerdon on Jul 23, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Took you long enough

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Any reason why Choo is in LF and Benny in RF today?

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is Choo’s second night in LF.

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea, I’m not sure if they’re being showcased. Or just evaluated internally. Or both.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or Wedge is just drawing his lineups out of a hat, which would also explain Garko and Dellucci.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you think Shapiro’s been drawing his free agents out of a hat?

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dellucci hit the crap out of righties in the handful of seasons leading up to his deal. While 3 years may have been too long, the guy just crapped himself.

Paul Byrd’s been pretty nifty. Beats Mark Mulder, Jon Leiber, and Matt Clement. I also consider Blake, Howry, and Betancourt free agents.

Giles was a good target, and Hoffman would have been nice at the back end. The Indians can’t afford “sure-things,” but they’ve targeted decent talent.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vlad’s fly too short? or didnt want to test Ben’s arm?

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So short it looked like he might not catch it at all.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Way too short. And Kotchman is slow.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I’m here.

What happened to Laffy? Don’t tell me I’m going to have to throw away this HOF plaque I smelted in June?

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 4:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fasano and garko suckily demonstrated their defensive suckiness, plus a few hits.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Laffey averts disaster … this time

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Anybody check Peralta’s hot/cold chart? Seven of the nine hitting zones are “cold”.

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Jul 23, 2008 4:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what tired of picking on Garko and Hafner, your next target is Jhonny?

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chuck the LGT bully.

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hafner’s a dead issue. I still think that Garko’s a ML ballplayer. Peralta’s future is a third – but probably not with the Tribe.

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Jul 23, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s not going to win a gold glove at 3B either. He’s not hurting the Indians with his defense at SS. If he was, do you think the FO would really leave him there? The gain in his defense at 3B won’t offset the loss in his offense (SS vs 3B).

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s not getting any younger. I think I see a loss of mobility over the last 2-3 years and I don’t see him getting it back. With time he’s gonna hafta move. And yeah, I think that our FO misses a few things an makes an occasional mistake.

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Jul 23, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The reason the Indians have twice put together a 90-win team is because they don’t make decisions based on what they “think they see.”

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If they get credit for the two 90 win seasons then they get to wear the jacket for this year’s stinker.

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Jul 23, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A loss in mobility … for a 26 year old? Really? must have been an off-season car accident or something.

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could be that extra 20 pounds he’s carrying.

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Jul 23, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And oh yeah talonk, here’s a concept that seems to elude most site residents here: not everybody ages at the same rate.

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Jul 23, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No duh Sherlock … but as a glorified physician that you are, you must admit that a guy aging that quickly from 23-26 is extremely uncommon.

Stop pulling crud out of your rear. Am sick and tired of it.

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really don’t give a shit what you’re sick and tired of.

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Jul 23, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can tell you from experience that car accidents are NOTHING to joke about!!

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 23, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know, wasn’t trying to poke fun at that.

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I realized you were just joking. I was just trying to be funny.

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 23, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why is a 20+ HR 80+ RBI right handed 3B such a liability, offensively? Im sure there are other plausible SS options, not the least of which is drubs if he pulls his head out of his asshole.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Jul 23, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mike Mussina has turned it around, again. Dude’s having a pretty good year.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

CHOOOOOOOOOO

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 4:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

On a single? Worst time machine ever.

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

After all those outs in a row, I’m ready to cheer for anything.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough.

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How can you not love this guy? He’s just trying to stay out of the ROK Army.

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Choo’s magic helmet does it again

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Magic helmet? What is this magic helmet you speak of?

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LMAOOO

Brick is back on board with Garko now!

by Toxicadam on Jul 23, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GARKO!!! OMG!!

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow. Clearly we just need to rip on Garko some more.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Jul 23, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That is so completely unexpected I don’t even know what to say.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i’m still done with garko.

by Brick. on Jul 23, 2008 4:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Garko—trying to keep his spot on next year’s team.

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 23, 2008 4:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Trade Garko now!!!!

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Garko sucks. Ryan, assume before every AB that I have just noted your suckiness. That is all.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Garko being Garko. You just hope he hits his 15-18 HR in meaningful situations.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Marte walk. W O W

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

way to work that count Andy!!

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Control yourself, Sal.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Another 12-15 steps, he he’d have beat that one out. Nice bunt, though.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If Fasano is not allowed to bat, then why is he a catcher in the MLB? They can’t find some other schmuck to at least try to hit?

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 4:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why are we bunting? WTF. Seriously this pisses me off. IT’S THE THRID GD INNING.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 4:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’d rather Sal bunt than GIDP.

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just don’t see this as a statistically significant possibility.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why does Sal kneel when he bunts? Can his knees not support the wwight of his facial hair?

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sal is particularly talented from his knees.

by Fredward on Jul 23, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

How has Astro been doing since he got back? I saw he got four hits yesterday.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he went 2-4 yesterday

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want a Fasano/Molina race. Someone should set that up.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Jul 23, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Garko can probably run in that.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Walk, bunt, HBP. Just like Wedge drew it up.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What does he draw for Grady?

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Grady.

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here comes a Grady bomb.

You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person

by jakesinger777 on Jul 23, 2008 4:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

8ball says Not Even Close

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why so serious?

You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person

by jakesinger777 on Jul 23, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you thought serious? c’mon man …

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BOOOM

You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person

by jakesinger777 on Jul 23, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hm….that curveball is wicked.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well then, c’mon Grady.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dellucci with two hard-hit balls today. That’s just not fair.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so what’s his HHB% this year now?

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m sure we can find out in his blog.

by Fredward on Jul 23, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Marte goes down 0-2 then walks?

That seems vaguely significant.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 4:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

big picture moment.

BIG PICTURE MOMENT.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Laffey don’t give the lead back please,

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And here we go.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kendrick is pretty good.

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He’s a freak. In 203 ABs, he has 5 walks. Very dangerous to have a guy who needs to hit .320 to have value…but Kendrick apparently hits .320.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Way to settle in.

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok. So Kendrick has destroyed the Indians this series, and they’ve only pitched him away. Perhaps its time to start pitching IN.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He’d probably just turn on it and hit it a mile. I vote carefully pitch around him.

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’ll swing at it. You just make him swing at your pitch.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

is that three 2Bs for the Angels today? Laffey giving hard hit balls so far.

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You know who sort of sucks?

Aaron Laffey.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 4:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yea, John Lackey too.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bite your tongue!

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why? Especially if its true.

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just don’t want to start thinking that Laffey is going to become the new Sowers.

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m already there.

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really didn’t think Laffey-Lackey would be higher-scoring than Weaver-Ginter.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s why they play ‘em.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was almost a dive. Or a tumble. Or something.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Off day tomorrow. Let’s burn the bullpen, Wedge. Don’t let this one get crazy.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

gift call

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 4:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

THey call him Figgy? Gross.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 4:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fire Laffey

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 4:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bad time machine :/

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Jul 23, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lefty on lefty. Gets a ground ball. And it finds a hole.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I have trouble getting behind this ground ball thing after some point. 9 hits?

9?

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ummm yeah. That’s not how we drew up this GB thing.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very rarely do groundballs go for doubles, and they never go for homeruns. And it’s hard to score when you hit a bunch of singles. You just can’t walk a bunch of guys and play crappy defense.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then why does he give up so many doubles?

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cause right now he’s not getting the groundballs.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bah humbug

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well shit.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m thinking we invest in power pitchers. I’m tired of GB specialist who get hit.

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 4:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think this season is a hard lesson for me in terms of overvaluing young players. We should’ve played it a lot looser, it seems, in trying to get Haren.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 4:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not sure which rationale this falls under for Brick but I whole heartedly agree.

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree completely. Not that it is going to matter this season, next season SP depth could turn out to be a real bummer.

Wedge: [letting go of Casey's hand] I'll never let go, Casey. I promise.

by cclemens31 on Jul 23, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fire Laffey … Again!!

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ok this is just plain unlucky. These are absolute duck-snorts, at best.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 4:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Exactly, Guerrero blooped his first hit, advanced on chopper that was too slow to be a doubleplay.

Then this inning has seen three GB find the hole.

Garko missed a groundball down the line he should have had.

With a real infield defense, this game unfolds a bit differently.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I notice we play the unlucky card a lot.

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve seen it happen to Fausto as well …. even if we had all the rangy guys around the diamond, there are still holes that ground balls find. It just happens.

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look, I want Laffey to succeed but we can’t just explain everything away. He’s given up 3 doubles through 4 innings.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep. Same here. He seems to get the benefit of a ton of praise for some reason.

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FWIW, his SLG-against is .392 this year. This seems pretty low.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We do. And probably too much. But it does play a role. For instance, our run differential is +11 and KC’s is -83, and we’re half a game ahead of them.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

50% save rates will do that

by palcal on Jul 23, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What the hell are we doing? 5 runs in the 4th?

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh oh, time machine.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I was sure you meant Aybar hit it out.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you guys know that Mastny was from Indonesia?

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No, but maybe if you hum a few bars, I can fake it.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 23, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guerro = Terrifying.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 4:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

*Guerrero. awful spelling

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So is Guerrero.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With this hair, I think he looks like Tanner from The Bad News Bears.

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

freaking WSox are within a run now

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shucks!!! We’ll never catch them now!

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My sentiment exactly, only with proper use of the “reply” button.

by Fredward on Jul 23, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Although the timecode has you beating me. Let’s call it a draw.

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeez, at this rate, we’ll never catch them.

by Fredward on Jul 23, 2008 4:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There we go. It’s a one run ballgame. And Looch is in the lineup!

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2008 4:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And Looch is [inexplicably hitting second in] the lineup!

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sarc

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Laffey

Is that radar gun correct? 84MPH fastballs?

by jimmy325 on Jul 23, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dellucci has no limits.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Quentin with another …

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 4:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why are we doing running updates on the White Sox? Just to make me nauseous?

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 4:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Because some people haven’t moved from denial to anger yet.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just find CJ Wilson to be hilariously bad. I’m glad I dropped him a month ago.

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

is it possible

to regress back to denial? like a mad denial?

i’m looking at the standing think about things that will never happen.

by Kevin HD on Jul 23, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don’t worry guys I got this one -

The usage is “nauseated.”

by joeee on Jul 23, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Angels are going to come in with shields and k rod in the 8th and 9th so better score in the 6th or 7th.

by jimmy325 on Jul 23, 2008 4:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If I see K-Rod do his ridiculous turn and scream I will not be happy.

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unless we sign him in the offseason (I know it isnt happening though)

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about the fifth?

Or what about just scoring off Shields or K-Rod? We scored 4 runs off of Lackey.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Laffey has got a 10-hitter going on only 64 pitches in 4 innings.

by palcal on Jul 23, 2008 5:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

JP is the shortstop of my heart.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I figured Skinner would send him.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Marte = 2 out magic!

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Magic helmet needs an adjustment.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Garko? again?

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It was my preemptive Garko Sucks up-thread.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

RF. Beautiful.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 5:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

excellent time machine

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Make Garko wear those dumb Oakleys every day.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Marte=WPA

by APV on Jul 23, 2008 5:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, GArko and Marte with base knocks back to back … never thought I’d see that.

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 5:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WHAT WAS FASANO SWINGING AT

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 5:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

a couple of housewives?

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I think we might be onto something with this Marte character. He’s our own Jack Cust-career minor leaguer, never taken seriously, making good on his one shot.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice opposite field hitting by the indians

by jimmy325 on Jul 23, 2008 5:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fasano looks lost.

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 5:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Casey would have homered there.

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 23, 2008 5:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ours or theirs?

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fasano automatic out?

by jimmy325 on Jul 23, 2008 5:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Somebody should tell Reader’s Digest that Fasano’s problem isn’t a lack of steroids.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

holy crap even Fasano gets lucky.

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WOW Garko, MArte and Fasano … back to back singles … SWEET

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Garko looks hilarious when he’s trying to “run fast”

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, when Jeff Mathis has 4 hits in 3 games, you need a Fasano RBI to balance the universe.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anybody see Dunn’s line-drive grand slam today? I like homeruns that aren’t huge bombs, but just line drives that never stop until they hit something.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Baseball is such a weird game.

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 5:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ok lets hold on to this lead… theyre not gunna send laffey out for the 5th are they?

by jimmy325 on Jul 23, 2008 5:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

cmon AbaCas … make it a 4-play

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 5:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fasano .316

by palcal on Jul 23, 2008 5:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LET’S GO TRIBE!!

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 5:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

anyone warming up in the bullpen?

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2008 5:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WOW Garks, Marte, Fasano, LOL

by SeattleVinny on Jul 23, 2008 5:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Even the Angel fielders who are crappy fielders make good plays.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 5:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

By my calculations, the Angels will regain the lead in the bottom of the 9th.

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 5:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well shoot.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

/lazy – where do you see those splits on players’ averages in a gridded strike zone?

by joeee on Jul 23, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

like the hot/cold zone thing?

by joeee on Jul 23, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

im dying here

by joeee on Jul 23, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No idea.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

darn!:):):)

by joeee on Jul 23, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How hard did AstroCab hit that?

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pretty hard. Not OMG Hafner 2006 Smoked, but hard.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks. Hard to tell with gamecast

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hard. Looked like a gapper off the bat.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The thing that irritates me most about the LAA:

The constant praise of Chone Figgins and Garrett Anderson.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I still don’t get how “Chone” is pronounced as “Shawn”. I always want to say it like “Ch-own”

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Think sh-ocolate ….

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

soooo anyone know the last game where we had 3 innings with 2 runs or more?

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

probably one of those TB games.

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boy oh Boy is garret anderson annoying. he is one of the peskyiest players in baseball.

by jimmy325 on Jul 23, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He’s no PEDroia. God I hate that guy.

PEDroia sucks.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really? Never woulda known.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lackey is mad at the bench.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is this thread sputtering or is it me?

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is Aaron trotting out there?

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 5:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately, yes.

by FredOx on Jul 23, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Time to settle in Laffey.

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 5:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Guys, Andy Marte tied this game.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow laffey back out there.. these managers in baseball are just simply retarded nowadays

by jimmy325 on Jul 23, 2008 5:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You want Mastny?

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want Mastny.

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, just wait a sec for Laffey to give up these runs.

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d take Mujica for two. Betancourt for one. Maybe two.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

am not surprised Laffey is back … he has less than 70 pitches and the lead … hopefully has him on a short leash for this inning

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah going to this bullpen in the fifth? With Raffy P overtaxed?

No thanks.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve never wanted to win a meaningless series more

maybe

by ahowie on Jul 23, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LAA: best team in baseball thus far.

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree. I still say its the Cubs.

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Standings suggest otherwise.

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have no witty response.

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely not.

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 23, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm. I wish he’d struck out.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I feel so dirty doing this at work

by joeee on Jul 23, 2008 5:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

laffey goes full on rivera.. hes dying to walk him.. dude just cant hold the lead down

by jimmy325 on Jul 23, 2008 5:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this is an interesting straegy

try to ricashe pitches off the batters to keep them off base.

by Kevin HD on Jul 23, 2008 5:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nevermind

doesn’t appear to be paying off

by Kevin HD on Jul 23, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

subject line!!!!

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

am i not suppose to use the subject line or something?

i thought the rules were thown out the window when casey blake became our hottest trade option.

by Kevin HD on Jul 23, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Subject line is generally frowned upon, and by generally frowned upon, I mean the entire community will relentlessly ridicule you. It’s…. what we do.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wedge wants to lose. I’m annoyed.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 5:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ok this is getting silly now.. 11 hits now take this poor kid out of the game he doesnt have it today

by jimmy325 on Jul 23, 2008 5:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He didn’t have it his last outing either. This trend better end soon

by ahowie on Jul 23, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Death by papercuts. How was that an f-ing double?!!?

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 5:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bad luck again?

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The hit? No. Kendrick smoked it.

It was a double b/c of a lousy throw.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fire baseball.

by mjschaefer on Jul 23, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

why, did Grady drop it or something?

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Wedge – get Laffey out, he doesn’t “deserve” the win and will choke it off anyway.

by Fredward on Jul 23, 2008 5:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ive never thought id see a baseball team try and lose a game on purpose but its actually happening rite before my eyes

by jimmy325 on Jul 23, 2008 5:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hyperbole is the best.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

welcome back, E.

by Brick. on Jul 23, 2008 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The fact that that was a double is infuriating.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That’s right Wedge. Sit back for the first two batters. Then with the third batter, pitch like it’s game 7.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 5:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Can someone defend Wedge here? I mean, I can see it either way.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 5:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is it possible to outsource the play-by-play managerial decisions to someone else and let Wedge concentrate on cultivating the team’s grittiness?

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s the “next step.”

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can.

Defense A: This bullpen is terrible, especially when stretched. If you’re trying to win, you might as well see if you can scratch one more inning out of Laffey. He hasn’t given up more than 3 runs in an inning. It’s not like he totally imploded.

Defense B: Might as well see if Laffey can get out on a good note. His pitch count is low and the season is lost. He needs to have some success or, alternately, learn how to deal with not having his best stuff.

Defense C: Because who gives a shit, that’s why.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C. Ding.

by Brick. on Jul 23, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the best part is that lackey mite end up with the (W) next to his name today lol wat a loserrrrr

by jimmy325 on Jul 23, 2008 5:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is your “h” button broken on the keyboard? It’s ok if it is.

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someone at Cleveland.com accidentally linked over here.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 23, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

O HAI GUYZ, U THNK OMAR RULZ 2?

by bogey021 on Jul 23, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

gawd. we woulda had like 15 wurld series wins if dolan wasnt so cheap!!!!!!

cc left and we didnt even get a major leaguer….I hate stats!

Wedge: [letting go of Casey's hand] I'll never let go, Casey. I promise.

by cclemens31 on Jul 23, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

alright boys I’m off to home depot to buy some sand paper. Was gonna watch the indians game, but I don’t know if I’ll have time. Busy day.

Okay I’ll do one.

by joeee on Jul 23, 2008 5:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice opportunity for Mastny to allow some runs and still lower his ERA

by APV on Jul 23, 2008 5:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hilarious.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And true.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, three doubles for Kendrick off of Laffey … just walk him next time Aaron

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 5:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BORNEO?! WHAAAAAA????

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 5:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FE WEE

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 5:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I always hated the fact a manager will pull a pitcher and then have the new guy intentionally walk the first batter.

If you are gonna walk the guy, have the guy who is getting pulled do the walking fro crying out loud!!

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 5:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Isn’t that what happened?

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 23, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

gamecast originally had Mastny walking him

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean, not Mastny’s unintentional walk, but, you know, the other one.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 23, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mastny’s favorite movie: Smokey and the Bandit, according to LAA commentators.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shades of Fultz.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You see why we tried to get one more inning out of Laffey yet?

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this is so painful

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shades of Borowski.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL That is fucking awesome.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That’s a shame.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 23, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So who here didn’t see that one coming?

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 23, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mastny?

by APV on Jul 23, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The universe is, again, misaligned.

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wedge/Laffey/Mastny. All suck.

by ASP on Jul 23, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I get this feeling a scary time machine is coming up….

Wedge: [letting go of Casey's hand] I'll never let go, Casey. I promise.

by cclemens31 on Jul 23, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

somewhat.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ouch.

Not surprising but ouch.

Wedge: [letting go of Casey's hand] I'll never let go, Casey. I promise.

by cclemens31 on Jul 23, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get it?

GET IT?!

Lay off Wedge. His job is hard. All of his pitchers suck, except for Cliff Lee, Perez, and Matt Ginter.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

a freaking grand slam by Mathis??? WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

man I hate how the scrubs usually do all the damage against us … Uribe, Mathis … and then the studs get theirs too, but allowing the scrubs to hit like that is how we lose ballgames.

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can’t watch anymore. Ugh.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Before you leave, what are the odds you can hire me after I fail the bar next week?

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 23, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good luck on that, sir. You’re almost free.

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mastny could be going to Lake County.

by palcal on Jul 23, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oh well…Mastny’s ERA is now up over 14

by APV on Jul 23, 2008 5:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“Hey Andy, where’d you put that dominoes set?” – Mastny

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 5:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Indians have given up 10 GS. At least they are tops in something beside defense..

by palcal on Jul 23, 2008 5:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah this is a rerun. Mathis game-winning HR. I knew it!

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2008 5:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow indians got owned today in so many ways

by jimmy325 on Jul 23, 2008 5:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oooo White Sox comeback and win. Thanks STO for rubbing salt in all our wounds.

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 5:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey Mastny—if you’re going to give up the grand slam, at least do it BEFORE you walk a guy. That would save us one run.

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 23, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope Wedge just lets Mastny suffer in there for at least 2 innings

by APV on Jul 23, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Give him the Jimmy Gobble treatment.

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But Gobble only got 3 outs.

by APV on Jul 23, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder how Mastny cheats when he’s in AAA…

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

prostitutes in the CF bleachers

by APV on Jul 23, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

per Hammy – most GS given up in a full season by the Indians in recorded history
(since 1951)

by palcal on Jul 23, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hopefully that is not an mlb record too

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They didn’t record history before 1951? That’s bizarre.

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Per the Angels broadcast, Mastny’s ERA is now 17

by xrickx on Jul 23, 2008 5:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no…13.50

by APV on Jul 23, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I trust gameday more. It’s 13.5.

17 seems ridiculous. He only gave up 2 ER.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Makes me wonder what the highest ERA in MLB history is for anyone who has pitched at least at many innings as Mastny this season.

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What? 9 IP?

It’s at least that hight.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s only thown 9IP this season? If that’s true then I’ve grossly overestimated how much he’s played this year. I thought I remembered seeing him pitch more often I guess.

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s like a traumatic stress kind of thing.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he was up for a long time early in the year, but only pitched twice in almost 6 weeks.

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s not nearly as terrible as Roy Halladay circa 2000

by Fredward on Jul 23, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

probably seems like more innings than it is because of all the runs he gives up.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well…

WE NEED FOUR RUNS.

WE HAVE ANDY MARTE.

WE CAN DO THIS.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 5:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

AND SAL FASANO

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wedge: [letting go of Casey's hand] I'll never let go, Casey. I promise.

by cclemens31 on Jul 23, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love how quickly the mood goes from:

“Dangit, bad luck for Laffey! These are all outs that turning into hits.”

to

“THIS IS RIDICULOUS HOW COULD YOU LEAVE SUCH AN INEFFECTIVE STATER IN!”

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You can remain optimistic in the face of bad results for only so long…

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grady jack
Dellucci 4-3 GO
Benny single to LF
Jhonny 2B to RF gap
Choo single to CF

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 5:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he juuuuust missed that one.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

damn, not even close …. oh well

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I appreciate the effort. I totally subscribed to your script.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m positive I would think Mike Scoisa was an asshole if I met him.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i’m pretty sure Scoisa would think I’m an asshole if I met him

by APV on Jul 23, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he got run over quite a lot as a Dodger … I wouldn’t doubt he’s a bit touchy ;)

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good lord. DFA him, please. We should at least take a look at Aubrey or something.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Floppy hat tuesday is hilarious.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s amazing how fast Ben Fran can go from “dangerous hitter” to “easy out” seemingly at the flip of a switch.

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 5:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I cannot believe we go 2/3 Dellucci/Francisco.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

at least we will finish with a 3-3 road trip …..

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 5:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We’ve got this shit.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

would you prefer AbaCab/Marte? ha

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oops … was supposed to be for afh4

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

JP should be in the top 3. If we even want to pretend to try to win we need to at least get at bats for the guys who can hit.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish we still had Alex Escobar

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 5:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Or Hector Luna. Who doesn’t remember that game last season he had against Seattle.

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Nationals would be happy to trade us Alex Escobar – he’s currently playing in AAA Columbus.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 23, 2008 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe they’ll take looch and his entire contract for him?

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 23, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How can Masty be so filthy in AAA and suck so bad at MLB?

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 5:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That’s pretty sweet.

by obobcatu on Jul 23, 2008 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I always new Ernie was an og

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh hai Jessen

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 5:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

at least this series is going better for us than the one Seattle is doing against Boston:

Mon lost 4-0, 8 hits (1 2B), 0 BB
Tue lost 4-2, 5 hits, (1 2B), 3 BB
Today so far: down 2-0 in the 3rd with only 2 hits

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 5:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well at least Kendrick didn’t get his 4th two-bagger of the day …. yet

by talonk on Jul 23, 2008 5:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is sure to work out.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey Mastny!!! YOU SUCK.

by gte619n on Jul 23, 2008 5:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

When I left the office, the Tribe was down 5-4. Now that I’m home, it’s 12-6 Angels.

Ack.

Is there anyone in this bullpen who wants to stay in the major leagues?

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 23, 2008 5:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And that little display made Lewis’ ERA go down.

by afh4 on Jul 23, 2008 5:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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It has been several weeks since I attempted to post something on this site but here it goes again.  I, as you may know, am an avid, but young Indians fan. Like every young fan, I have made mistakes and upset people who don't need to be upset. I formally apologize to all those whom I may have flustered in my last 2 years of savage posting on this site. With my 16th birthday rapidly approaching, I have decided to turn over a new leaf and begin to accept what the intelligent minds of LGT have to offer and view it as strictly constructive criticism.

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