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Game Thread: July 25, 2008

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Minnesota Twins @ Cleveland Indians


Minnesota at Cleveland, 7:05 PM (STO)

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Garko’s in the lineup, so no Marte.

No Dellucci either – the four actual outfielders are in the lineup.

by Ryan on Jul 25, 2008 6:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Dellucci ever appears in a game that does not feature multiple injuries for the Indians again, it will be too soon.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 7:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m overly excited tonight for some reason. No Marte has me coming down to earth a bit though.

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 7:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess I’ll start it off.

Kliff!

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow. That was a great catch

by Bernie19Kosar on Jul 25, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Garko would have been thrown out at third.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did Grady just score from second on a sac fly? That’s what Gamecast shows.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yep.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gomez went down after the catch

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can you describe it a little more in depth? Is he hurt?

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 7:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He’s being carted off and might be going to a hospital to be checked out cus they don’t know what exactly is hurt

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 7:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and is now on a stretcher.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 7:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The outfielder crashed against the wall but hung on to the ball to make the catch. He fell on the ground, appearing to be injured, and flipped the ball to the CF to throw it in.

He’s being taken out on a cart.

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 25, 2008 7:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He’s wearing a neck brace and is on a stretcher.

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 25, 2008 7:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks for all the updates.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 7:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow, too bad. Does it look like he’s seriously injured?

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 7:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He appeared to be holding his back after he fell to the ground. Maybe he injured his neck/back. It’s amazing that he made the catch, though.

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 25, 2008 7:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, it’s pretty bad. He just got taken out on a stretcher. Looks to be something wrong with his hip and/or lower back.

by Ryan on Jul 25, 2008 7:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah. I included “neck” because they put a neck brace on him, but that’s probably just a precaution.

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 25, 2008 7:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I smell a Choobomb.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gomez Update

Yes im a Twins Fan but id let you guys know this, They Just Announced on FSN North that Gomez has Full Movement in His Body, Just going to the Hospital to get it thoroughly checked out

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s very good news.

by Ryan on Jul 25, 2008 7:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

another great catch sac fly.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2 great catches by the twinkies this inning

by millionairesrow on Jul 25, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You mean two perfectly scripted sac flies by the good guys!

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 7:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jeez, Hammy, we traded Sabathia, why wouldn’t we trade Blake?

by Ryan on Jul 25, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So Livan is looking sharp

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I Hence a Bit of Sarcasm, You know, you think the Twins would Dump this Waste of Money and Call up Francisco Liriano.

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 7:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Probably inevitable

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 7:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so, really, Livan should have no outs still.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hernandez seems to be grooving the ball tonight

by millionairesrow on Jul 25, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The more I think about it, the more sending Laffey to Buffalo makes sense.

by Ryan on Jul 25, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Interesting thought…..but what does that have to do with this game?

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 25, 2008 7:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hamilton was talking about Carmona returning to the rotation, and the Indians have said that Ginter is sticking around.

by Ryan on Jul 25, 2008 7:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, gotcha. Did they say if Sowers or Laffey is going down?

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 25, 2008 7:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

...or Mastny…

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 7:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought about that earlier. Ginter isn’t part of any long term plan with this team unless something really bizarre happens, but Laffey probably needs to be and this is a perfect opportunity for him to be in AAA, if that is what is going to help him.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 7:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And sending Laffey down might also have something to do with service time, although Jay would know about that. I know he’s written about that but I don’t remember Laffey’s situation off the top of my head.

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 25, 2008 7:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

something like 40 days in the minors and we get another cheap year of him.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 7:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well that is certainly doable.

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 25, 2008 7:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SHIT or NOT!!!

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are you kidding me???!!!?

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unbelievable.

by Ryan on Jul 25, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Almost another great catch….and another inury!

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 25, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hernandez is killing his outfielders.

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 25, 2008 7:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

He’s has absolutely nothing tonight

by millionairesrow on Jul 25, 2008 7:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry for the comment line post.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 7:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just a comment on Hernandez’s stuff tonight, he’s leaving everything up and in the middle of the plate

by millionairesrow on Jul 25, 2008 7:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

pop fly with confusion.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 7:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is such an odd inning

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yikes.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hahaha oh my god

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So far, so good for Kliff’s Cy Young bid.

by obobcatu on Jul 25, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

long-ass wait in the dugout.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 7:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Has a Cy Young winner ever come from a last place team? I can’t think of one

by millionairesrow on Jul 25, 2008 7:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I remember A-Rod won an MVP with the Rangers, but I can’t think of a Cy Young winner from a last-place team.

by Ryan on Jul 25, 2008 7:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I remember hearing somewhere Steve Carlton had one season where he won like half the games for the Phillies. Not sure if he won the Cy though.

by obobcatu on Jul 25, 2008 7:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just flipping through the Cy Young winners list, I haven’t even found a winner on a sub-.500 team.

by Ryan on Jul 25, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dice-K over Lee would be ridiculous, but that’s what’s going to happen.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yup, 1972 NL Cy Young winner was Steve Carlton and the Phillies were 59-97, bad enough for last in the eastern division.

by obobcatu on Jul 25, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well there you go.

by Ryan on Jul 25, 2008 7:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep, gotta pile up the wins.

by Ryan on Jul 25, 2008 7:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ADVERTISE WITH THE INDIANS commercials! wow, we do suck.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sowers’ ERA lowered from 7.33 to 6.44 because of a scoring change for June 30 (hit by Dye to error by Blake) per Castrovince blog

by palcal on Jul 25, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shoppach’s play has continued to impress me. Anyone else think he will be the starting catcher in 2009 with Martinez at 1B?

by ShawnK on Jul 25, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I prefer that set-up myself. Victor is too good a hitter to let depreciate so fast behind the plate, even if he would be below the top tier in 1b production.

by obobcatu on Jul 25, 2008 7:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cliff Lee

Man what a surprise he has been, Just think at this Time last season, Lee was a Headcase, Remember He Gave up like 6 Runs and then a Jerkoff Move Tipped he hat to the fans, Unreal what this guy has become, Hopefully they dont Trade him Like they did CC.

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he’s not a FA for quite some time.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 7:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m thinking he’ll be heading into 2009 as the staff’s ace

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 7:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hate to play the what if game, but just imagine if Lee had this kind of season last year

sniffle

by millionairesrow on Jul 25, 2008 7:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You sadistic bastard

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A more painful what if game—What if Livan had pitched this poorly in the ‘97 Series?

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 7:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

tear

--
2008: let the hate flow through you.

by vbc3 on Jul 26, 2008 3:18 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We’ll see how he looks the rest of the season

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wonder if he’ll have a pitch limit tomorrow

by millionairesrow on Jul 25, 2008 7:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I seem to have read somewhere (BP, maybe?) that he might have a limit of around 90 pitches.

by DaveE on Jul 25, 2008 8:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Indians have absolutely no reason to trade Lee.

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 25, 2008 7:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

KKKliffton

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

GAWWWWNE GUUUUT

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

reminds me of this classic:

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 7:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice

Home Run Ball Gets Caught by a Guy wearing a Mets Hat.

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Glad you’re here, but FYI, we eschew the subject line.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 7:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

After a while, you’ll wonder why the subject line is even there.

by Ryan on Jul 25, 2008 7:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, didn’t mean to sound mean, just catching you up to speed.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 7:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man Cliff, Change the hat man, that things been around the block one too many times.

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like how it makes him look rugged. Cultivates a badass image IMO.

by obobcatu on Jul 25, 2008 7:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, if I were ever in the majors, I’d have the nastiest hat of all time.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 7:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what the fuck? runs?

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Like it’s a foreign concept for this team, lol. Obviously you didn’t watch last game.

by obobcatu on Jul 25, 2008 7:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cliff Lee is on the mound

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 8:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not a Knock against Tribe Nation, but ya think with how well Lee has been pitching this year, the Tribe would be up their in second or first in the division.

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One would think.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 8:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i don’t see the connection; what about Toronto?

by palcal on Jul 25, 2008 8:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

really. It’s not like we have the #1 ranked defense in addition.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 8:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, and in just general baseball news. Nady and Damaso Marte to the Yankees. Haven’t heard for who, probably some serious prospects, maybe Kennedy and Austin Jackson, something like that.

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

again, used the Topic Line, Doh!

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 8:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I Read yesterday that the Yankees offered Brett Gardner and Melkey Cabrera.

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 8:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow. I’d consider unloading Ohlendorf addition by subtraction.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 8:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I cant even get Baseball prospectus to Load.

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 8:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Peter Abraham is reporting via his blog that Phil Coke, a pitcher at Double-A Trenton has been pulled from his game. It’s expected, but not confirmed, that he is one of the players headed to Pittsburgh. I’ve also just learned that Ross Ohlendorf and at least one other player, perhaps two, will be the cost of Nady and Marte.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 8:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man, the Yanks Gave away Way to Much for a Mediocre Hitter and a Below Average Pitcher.

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 8:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Yankees don’t have to part with either Kennedy or Jackson they have gotten away with theft. I hate them so much.

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 8:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, This Squashes the Bonds to the Yankees Talks.

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 8:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe Pittsburgh’s society can revive Kennedy.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 8:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He almost threw a no-no in the minors recently I think I read

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 8:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Austin Jackon is staying. Here:

According to SI.com’s Jon Heyman, the Yankees have acquired outfielder Xavier Nady and reliever Damaso Marte from the Pirates for Jose Tabata, Ross Ohlendorf and two other minor league prospects.

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 8:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My buddy saw Jhonny and Gutz at the bars on West 6th last night. Good to see they’re not too hungover.

by obobcatu on Jul 25, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Your buddy should take them drinking there every night … they’re a triple away from the cycle already.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 8:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He told me he would have bought them a drink if he could understand what the hell they were saying. I guess they were speaking espanol the entire time. Which makes sense.

by obobcatu on Jul 25, 2008 8:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

can’t you just use gestures and signals in this case? and i would so buy jhonny a beer, he’s so tight

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 25, 2008 8:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Isn’t that funny when you think about it? The buying them a beer, not the speaking Spanish. I mean, I don’t know about anyone else on the board, but relative to my salary, Peralta and Gutz make about a billion dollars. They should be buying your buddy a beer.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 8:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well, yeah, but why would they.

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 25, 2008 8:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Manny and Alvaro Espinoza bought me and some buddies burritos in Ohio City back when I was in high school.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 8:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

any manny encounter is exciting as hell

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 25, 2008 8:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, it was fun. He was still young, it was the fall of ‘95. Right before the playoffs, we heard a rumor that Manny and Alvaro had been at the same taco place a few blocks from Ignatius almost every day. So we snuck out at lunch and went over there, and they had just gotten in line. We got in line behind them and starting talking to them, and Manny counted us all up and just got us all burritos without even asking what we wanted.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 8:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

awesome.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 8:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I…could go for a burrito.

by fleerdon on Jul 25, 2008 8:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also, my buddy reports there were not rolling with hotties. In fact, he says these girls were decidedly “meh”. You’d think a guy worth millions (Jhonny) and his buddy worth a few hundred Gs could pull some golddigger hotties.

by obobcatu on Jul 25, 2008 8:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well, jhonny’s married (right?) and gutz. well idk what the hell his problem is.

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 25, 2008 8:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Married as well.

Frank reportedly is one of the more fluently bilingual players on the team. Jhonny’s English is akin to his backhand.

by fleerdon on Jul 25, 2008 8:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s probably better than Grady’s Spanish.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 8:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, but he just talks with his eyes, Adam.

by fleerdon on Jul 25, 2008 8:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good point.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 8:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

twahnny twahhny vihhzhun

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 8:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gutz was with a girl at Applebee’s when I was down in Winterhaven last year. “Meh” would describe her as well.

by bewwolv on Jul 25, 2008 8:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

also, obligatory DHOUBLE!!!

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

More Runs are coming, Boof Bonser is Getting Loose HAHA

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how the hell did gutz homer get out?

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 25, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You’ll have to check it on HitTrackerOnline tomorrow, but I imagine its speed off the bat was pretty ridiculous.

by fleerdon on Jul 25, 2008 8:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gutz is taking over!

by obobcatu on Jul 25, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

GUUUUUT – i love this guy

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HOORAY

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Where’d Minny’s defense go?

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rookie Mistakes by Casilla have been plaguing us lately big time.

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 8:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i want to be excited about gutz’ good game. but he’s hitting .225

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 25, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fortunately for Frank, he’s the best defensive outfielder in baseball on one of the worst overall teams. I think he’ll get plenty of time to right himself.

by fleerdon on Jul 25, 2008 8:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope so, because even if he is the best defensive OF, there aren’t enough bats on this team to make up for that kind of hitting. He needs to be up around .270.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 8:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Honestly, if he could just manage an 800+ OPS against LHP, he’d be a great platoon partner/fourth outfielder. We could at least afford to keep him on the roster if and until he pieced it together.

Let’s remember, though, for 2008: Bryan Bullington is on our 40-man. I think there’s room for Frank.

by fleerdon on Jul 25, 2008 8:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True. Now if we can only find some suitable platoonmates.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 8:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

With the way this game has been played you’d think the Indians and Twins would be in reverse order in the standings.

by obobcatu on Jul 25, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Twins are dead in the water. Granted Livian is a terd, but this team will be a second half fader. If only Tigers and Pale Hose can join them… Have a good night guys. I’m watching both the Yanks-BoSox and Tribe on the internet. BTW, Lee is a dream to watch this year. Not to jinx it but I would like to see how his season matches up with CC last year.

Go Tribe!!!

by jerseywahoo on Jul 25, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Isn’t Casey Blake shiny, scouts?

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How lucky are we that Shapiro didn’t cave and trade CP Lee.

by obobcatu on Jul 25, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah just think Lee for Delmon Young might have made sense in the preseason.

by jerseywahoo on Jul 25, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can You Imagine just how much better the Rays would Be if Shapiro would have pulled that trade off?

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 8:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

From BP:

Update: The final package from the Yankees is Ross Ohlendorf, Jose Tabata, Phil Coke, and George Kontos, according to multiple sources. Rotoworld is reporting a different set of prospects, including Austin Jackson, so I continue to follow this.

That first package is a joke. Not that I think Nady is all that great but still.

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

tabata looks appealing. he’s not even 20 and in AA

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 25, 2008 8:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

kontos looks dece as well

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 25, 2008 8:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One thing Shapiro Did wrong was Getting Rid of Craig Breslow.

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We’ve discussed on numerous occasions how we feel Breslow was never given a chance to do anything here and we all would have liked to see him get a consistent shot.

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 8:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

MARK SHAPIRO DID NOTHING WRONG

by Ryan on Jul 25, 2008 8:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually he did, by not browbeating Wedge into actually using him regularly.

by Ryan on Jul 25, 2008 8:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Livan has now given up 198 hits this season. 198.

by Ryan on Jul 25, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Salary 2008: $5,000,000

by obobcatu on Jul 25, 2008 8:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man, How in the Blue Hell is Livan getting out of these situations all of a sudden

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cleveland Indians Baseball.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 8:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

clutch double plays.

by Ryan on Jul 25, 2008 8:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1997 WS MVP magic.

by fleerdon on Jul 25, 2008 8:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What is more baffling: Hernandez still being in or the fact that we still have only five runs?

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Incase you are all wondering, Im Not Just a Twins fan, Im a Tribe Fan by Heart, Born and spent 8 years of my life in Cleveland.

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This Span Kid Looks Pretty Dang Good, dont know why the Twins chose Gomez over him coming out of Spring Training.

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are You Writing a Title of a Book With All of Those Capital Letters?

jk

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 9:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are you guys to the point where you’ve accepted Cliff Lee is just good? Or are you still waiting for the other shoe to drop, like me? I don’t think I’ll be able to trust this until somewhere around the All-Star break next year.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i gotta say i trust him at this point.

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 25, 2008 8:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think I’ve settled into the Cliff revival. I’m mostly just worried about Fausto

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 8:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fausto still worries me a lot, too.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 8:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s getting to the point where it’s more probable that he’s good than that he’s bad. Not saying you’re wrong, but you’re getting less and less justified in your beliefs in 5-day increments.

by fleerdon on Jul 25, 2008 8:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess I should have said that Cliff Lee is this good. It’s definitely more probable that he’s good than bad. Maybe I’m just losing the ability to be as optimistic as I once was, but I keep thinking there’s no way he can keep this up.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 8:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I mean, his K-rate is good, but not stratospheric good. He’s staying in control by not walking guys and by keeping the ball in the park. That means he’s staying in the zone, but still beating guys—if he’s not doing that with actual talent, then what is it? Roids?

by fleerdon on Jul 25, 2008 8:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I understand that logic says he’s pretty good. But Cleveland Sports Fandom, or some illogical part of me that’s been impacted by 28 years of this, says it won’t last.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 8:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So three servicable-to-solid seasons were invalidated by one disaster season for you?

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 8:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All I’m saying is that this is far more than serviceable-to-solid. It’s a Cy Young type season. I haven’t accepted that Cliff Lee might be a Cy Young caliber pitcher. Every time he takes the mound, I am both excited to watch him pitch and nervous that this might be the night that I keep fearing—the night when he just gets pounded, which is followed by similar outings. I’m ecstatic that he’s pitched this well, and hope that it continues in a season where we can take advantage of it. I’m just afraid that it won’t.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 8:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m expecting a drop-off next season but I can see him having a season like he had in ‘05

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 8:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think he’s a consistent 15 game winner with an ERA in the mid-to-high 3s after this miracle season is over

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 8:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To do my Best Bruce Drennon Impersination…..I LOVE YA CLEVELAND!!!!!!!!

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

5-2, Fransisco Lets the Ball Roll right by him

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shows why Joe Mauer is probably the Best Catcher in the game.

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 8:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Was that more exceptional BenFran defense? Couldn’t tell from the radio.

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It Looked like he ran the ball and just figured it would just bounce into his glove and misplayed it.

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 8:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow we look bad now

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man Wheres has the Offense gone?

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Think Cliff will go eight?

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes, and if he does it quickly, 9

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 25, 2008 9:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Knowing Eric Wedge is a Dumbass, Who wants to take bets that hes pulled in the 8th

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He’s at 97 pitches. The bullpen sucks, but the season is lost. Don’t hurt the guy, pull him in the 8th if he gets in trouble.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 9:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow, Livan is still pitching.

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was a pathetic inning

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wedge does more bizarre Wedgie things by pulling Carroll in favor of Cabrera.

by obobcatu on Jul 25, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Defensive replacement … bizarre how?

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 9:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s not like Carroll is not a good defender. Let the guy play.

by obobcatu on Jul 25, 2008 9:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cliff Lee: surgeon

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I could see him going out for another CG but I’m going to bet on Masa

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Took me a while to catch up.

How about the first inning. 7 Lasers in a row off of Hernandez. Garko steps in. Lazy pop-up to end the inning. next inning starts with gutz. Laser over the left field wall.

by Brick. on Jul 25, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah I agree, Fire Garko!

by obobcatu on Jul 25, 2008 9:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Does anyone know why Garko is still up?

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How does Hernandez keep doing it?

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 25, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the ole K-Y ball

"...leading the league in most offensive categories. Including nose hairs."

by sarcasmdave on Jul 26, 2008 2:13 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

K the side Kobra

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thought we already had a Cobra?

by obobcatu on Jul 25, 2008 9:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And here we go….

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 25, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It wouldn’t be a true save for an Indians pitcher unless they made it interesting. I’m numb to this after the years of Blowrowski and Wickman.

by obobcatu on Jul 25, 2008 9:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i thought when joblow left we were done with this

by c9kay32 on Jul 25, 2008 9:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FUCK

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh No Kobayashi, Dont Blow this.

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He’s efficient, what with giving up as many runs in 7 pitches as Cliff did with 108.

Sigh.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Double By Young.

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here Comes Perez to replace Kobayashi.

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Raffy gets a save opportunity, Wedge getting quicker with the hook.

by palcal on Jul 25, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And according to Hegan, those boos were for Wedge.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 9:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Poor Cliff. How is he supposed to win the Cy with these bums in the pen?

by obobcatu on Jul 25, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The writers could ignore the W-L record?

by SuddenSam on Jul 25, 2008 9:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You’re more optimistic to Lee’s chances than I am! haha

by obobcatu on Jul 25, 2008 9:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You wouldn’t have him as the frontrunner right now?

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 9:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

seeing as it’s useless when measuring a pitcher’s effectiveness anyway

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 9:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DISPEND WEDGE

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   1 recs

i mean, i don’t really like wedge, but i don’t see how this is his fault

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 25, 2008 9:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if you can’t use your closer with a 3-run lead when can you use him.

by palcal on Jul 25, 2008 9:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just caught up on DVR. I can’t believe this!

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 25, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mike Lamb at the Plate.

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wrong Mike, its Redmond not Lamb

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Carroll mild hammy strain.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that switch makes sense now.

by obobcatu on Jul 25, 2008 9:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is a bad dream…right????

Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Jul 25, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I sure hope so.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 25, 2008 9:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, this is Indians baseball, 2008.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 25, 2008 9:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice Catch Garko

by Tony_O on Jul 25, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

didn’t bounce, did it?

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 9:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, it was a great stab.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 25, 2008 9:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

k – the radio call didn’t really inform me one way or the other

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 9:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whew, I thought you were being sarcastic.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 9:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Do you walk Harris to set up the DP???

Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Jul 25, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come on Raffy!

by obobcatu on Jul 25, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Raf-Fy Pe-Rez

Raf-Fy Pe-Rez

Raf-Fy Pe-Rez

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 25, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Perez for Pres!!!!

Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Jul 25, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A pitching change we can believe in.

by joeee on Jul 25, 2008 9:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   2 recs

I believe in Harvey De—-errr…Raffy Perez

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 9:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The beginning of an era of reliable closers?

probably not

by ahowie on Jul 25, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Manning: “You don’t worry about him [Young]. The tying run?

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 25, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I put all the blame on wedge. Cliff is pitching lights out and was only at 108….why doesn’t he start the ninth? Wedge is over managing the pitching staff, and it’s been costly.

by Sockalexis on Jul 25, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Uhh, 108 is a lot of pitches. Big picture, Cliff Lee winning this game means squat compared to Cliff Lee blowing his arm out.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 9:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Winning a game in a season when we’re out of contention. Completely useless.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 25, 2008 9:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I didn’t mean to say it’s completely useless, but he pitched 8 innings and threw a bunch of pitches. Bring in the bullpen.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 25, 2008 9:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I disagree. Cliff pitched a good game. The BP should be able to hold a 3 run lead. I don’t like Wedge but don’t fault him here.

Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Jul 25, 2008 9:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Baseball is such a funny game. Last season Lee was atrocious, Betancourt was a phenom, Raffy (L) was sweet then ineffective in the playoffs. Now Lee is unhittable, Betancourt can’t be brought into a close game, and Perez is our best reliever.

by obobcatu on Jul 25, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs