Bullpen shakeup due tomorrow

Bauer gone, Jensen likely replacement. JoBo demoted but not DFA'd.

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Is this really lame?

by afh4 on Jul 3, 2008 6:16 PM EDT 0 recs

I agree…westbrook, what exactly did you expect them to do today?

by TribeJay on Jul 3, 2008 6:19 PM EDT up 0 recs

Oh, and I hope they’re not bringing Lewis up. He stil sucks.

by afh4 on Jul 3, 2008 6:18 PM EDT 0 recs

He’s had a few good outings lately. If his velocity is up, then I’m ok with it. If not, then I’d rather go with Slocum or Stevens.

by TribeJay on Jul 3, 2008 6:21 PM EDT up 0 recs

He’s also had a few bad outings lately.

by afh4 on Jul 3, 2008 6:27 PM EDT up 0 recs

Last four outings – 6 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 5 K

by TribeJay on Jul 3, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up 0 recs

And the outing before that he gave up 2 ER on 3 BBs and a hit. Does that one not count? He’s got 20 baserunners in his last 18 innings.

by afh4 on Jul 4, 2008 11:57 AM EDT up 0 recs

It counts, but is it not notable that after allowing four baserunners in that one inning, he only allowed two in his next six innings combined?

by Jay on Jul 4, 2008 1:34 PM EDT up 0 recs

OK, all I meant was that he has had a few good outings lately – which is true. And yes, he had some stinkers before that. So to spell it out for you, he’s had more success in last 4 outings than he had before. I haven’t seen him pitch, so I have no idea if he’s throwing the ball better or if it’s just luck.

Sheesh.

by TribeJay on Jul 4, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up 0 recs

Whatever .. as long as I don’t have to watch Joe slingshot an 84 mph meatball up there anymore, I am all for it.

by Toxicadam on Jul 3, 2008 7:17 PM EDT 0 recs

So you guys are all right with today’s “changes” being Rick Bauer gone?

Borowski isn’t being released. He’s being taken out of the closer’s role. Which means we’re back to where we were when he was hurt.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 3, 2008 7:28 PM EDT 0 recs

why even bother? if we can’t get anything for him, dump him and let mastny and mujica pitch regularly to see what they have. this is dumb.

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 3, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up 0 recs

Well, Bauer wasn’t the solution. His innings and probably some of Borowski’s go to guys like Mastny and Mujia. Maybe a few of other AAA guys get a shot because of it.

On Borowski, he actually hasn’t been embarrassing since he has come of the DL. If he can string together a couple weeks around a 4 ERA, maybe we get a PTBNL for him.

This is all the first in a series of moves, no doubt. But the bullpen sucks right now and we need to evaluate what we have there.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 3, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up 0 recs

I”m not saying getting rid of Bauer was a bad move… not at all, actually. What I’m saying is: I expected more of a message to be sent to this putrid team. More than the 25th man on a 25-man roster being DFA’d.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 3, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up 0 recs

I gotchya. But thats just not the way this front office works. IT seems like they have given up on the season within the last few days. Its going to take awhile (a couple days) for them to be ready to make any more major moves.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 3, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up 0 recs

I agree that a “message” would be satisfying, but seriously, what’s the point? The season is tanked, everyone knows they’re playing for their pride, their personal stats, working on getting better in general and in some cases, auditioning for 2009. Maybe they haven’t acknowledged that to themselves completely just yet, but they certainly will when the trades start happening.

by Jay on Jul 4, 2008 10:22 AM EDT up 0 recs

What about Bob Wickman? Seriously. Let him pitch the rest of the year and see if he still can get runners out. Wouldn’t hurt and he would probably be cheap. Much better odds of him catching on than a Juan Rincon.

by Toxicadam on Jul 3, 2008 8:59 PM EDT 0 recs

I think I just threw up a bit in my mouth

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 3, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up 0 recs

Maybe it’s just me, but Borowski hasn’t been THAT bad since he came off the DL in late May. I just find the timing of this all a little curious. If the Indians weren’t going to be able to trade him with him at least picking up some saves, I doubt they’ll be able to move him if he’s in middle relief. Unless, maybe, the logic is that his blowups will be that much less epic. I guess, even when dealing, Borowski wasn’t going to fetch anything…so why live with it any longer?

Maybe you just put Betancourt into the role and see if it magically clicks for him.

by xrickx on Jul 3, 2008 10:24 PM EDT 0 recs

Hasn’t been THAT bad? The stats may not be horrendous, but he’s been the recepient of some prettty outstanding luck in the field.

by supermarioelia on Jul 3, 2008 11:55 PM EDT up 0 recs

I can’t decide if I’m more excited about this or that girl who promised to streak at the Cubs/Cards game after the 4th inning.

Erm, yes I can.

by fleerdon on Jul 3, 2008 10:27 PM EDT 0 recs

Bauer certainly isn’t the answer, but how many days should relievers sit in between appearances?

I did a Google image search for "Andy Marte." It turned up zero results.

by emd2k3 on Jul 4, 2008 10:00 AM EDT 0 recs

Because our manager is THE Eric Wedge, we’ll always have 2 guys in the pen who never get to work.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 12:28 PM EDT up 0 recs

Bauer did not travel with the team to Miiny – link

by palcal on Jul 4, 2008 11:59 AM EDT 0 recs

Bauer went to Texas, but I bet the manager told him to stay home a few other times. Don’t bother coming in tomorrow Rich. We won’t be needing you.

by odradek on Jul 4, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up 0 recs

Oh Hoynes…

“Sabathia, Paul Byrd, Casey Blake and Borowski can be free agents at the end of the season. Blake is performing the best out of the four and might be the most attractive to a contender.”

Unreal.

by kwoog on Jul 4, 2008 12:20 PM EDT 0 recs

WOAH

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 12:29 PM EDT up 0 recs

I wrote him an email… the last sentence was, “You are terrible at your job.”

by kwoog on Jul 4, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up 0 recs

Ouch.

by NickFantana on Jul 4, 2008 12:49 PM EDT up 0 recs

That is pretty amazing. C.C. has been the best pitcher in the majors for the past 11 weeks:

ERA leaders with IP, K, BB, unearned runs

1.97 – Duchscherer, 87.0, 53, 19, 5
2.14 – Danks, 84.0, 69, 22, 1
2.16 – Sabathia, 104.1, 109, 20, 2
2.42 – Volquez, 89.1, 97, 42, 7
2.51 – Lee, 97, 81, 16, 1
2.53 – Lincecum, 99.2, 100, 38, 4

by Jay on Jul 4, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up 0 recs