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Game Thread: July 4, 2008

Cleveland Indians @ Minnesota Twins


Cleveland at Minnesota, 7:10 PM (STO)

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Cleveland
G. Sizemore cf
J. Carroll 2b
B. Francisco lf
J. Peralta ss
S. Choo rf
C. Blake 3b
D. Dellucci dh
R. Garko 1b
K. Shoppach c

Minnesota
C. Gomez
A. Casilla
J. Mauer c
J. Morneau 1b
J. Kubel dh
D. Young lf
B. Buscher 3b
N. Punto ss
D. Span rf

We need Dellucci to got 3 for 4 every night for the next 3 weeks.

GO DELLUCCI!

by Toxicadam on Jul 4, 2008 6:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I CAN NOT ROOT FOR DELLUCCI.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 6:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Think hitting a HR off Justin.

Plus, he has a Chief Wahoo hat on, it shouldn’t be too hard.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 6:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was like the highlight of his career in my mind.

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 7:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

might be in his too… even if it was only May Baseball.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 7:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just checked into this- turns out he was on the Arizona championship team and once hit a homerun in the playoffs. Still, could that actually be cooler than hitting a gamewinner of Justin Christ Chamberlin? I mean, I wouldn’t know, being an Indians fan…

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 7:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Aaron Boone II, minus being a Yankee.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 7:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Olney was just on Sportscenter and said that he’d be shocked if CC made another start for us.

by ASP on Jul 4, 2008 6:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he cited an “official involved in the discussions” as saying this.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 6:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’ll be with the game after the Stephen Lynch special on Comedy Central. Last year this would have been horrible to say. This year, I don’t feel so bad about it.

by Fundamentals on Jul 4, 2008 7:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rear Window, now playing on TCM. In the apartment across the courtyard, Raymond Burr has just murdered the Indians season.

"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."

by Fiddlesticks on Jul 4, 2008 7:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unless Carlos Mencia is on next, you might want to stick with Comedy Central.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 7:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wouldn’t be angry if Breslow came in and got out 8 straight hitters (go grady!)

The 2008 Cleveland Indians: Home of the Triple Steal, Unassisted Triple Play, and not a heck of a lot more.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 7:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When we blow this thing up, does Garko stay with the big league club?

by fleerdon on Jul 4, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well, who do you think has the best long term future: Garko, Aubrey or Brown? I think I’m still with Garko.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 7:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Garko.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 7:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Martinez.

I’m just being flip. But he does have an option left.

by fleerdon on Jul 4, 2008 7:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Makes sense. Shoppach deserves to stay as regular catcher. Still, I don’t see it happening.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 7:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

god he’s going to no-hit us, isn’t he.

by ASP on Jul 4, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

on 50 pitches nonetheless.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 7:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that’s a given.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 7:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and Byrd will give up 13 runs in 4 innings.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 7:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Byrdstud

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And off we go.

First HR for Punto, wouldn’t ya know.

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by vbc3 on Jul 4, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

(this year, I should specify)

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by vbc3 on Jul 4, 2008 7:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1 HR 3 years in a row.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 7:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did Hammy just say the Indians are #1 in the league in defense?

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by vbc3 on Jul 4, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh boy.

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by vbc3 on Jul 4, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

z

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another shutout for Arroyo today.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I watched that game. During the rain delay Arroyo said he felt he pitched worse in Cleveland than he did in Toronto (where he gave 10 runs in one inning), but that he was lucky that the Indians hitters were not centering the ball.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 7:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I posted a fanwhatever on this quote a few days ago.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 7:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We’re going to see the 9:10 showing of Wall*E.

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by vbc3 on Jul 4, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

uh, so I hopefully get to see only the good parts of this game, I meant to add.

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by vbc3 on Jul 4, 2008 7:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

be sure you leave before the Michigan commercials.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 7:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I should be so lucky.

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by vbc3 on Jul 4, 2008 7:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’ve heard GREAT things.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 7:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What else is new?

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man. That was one loud out.

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by vbc3 on Jul 4, 2008 7:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Do I even bother flipping over or just head out early?

by Fundamentals on Jul 4, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

eh, there really isn’t much to see here. Maybe Byrd can put up a quality start to drive his value up. The Twins are kinda fun to watch. There is a decent chance of a shootout with two softtossers out there, but a blowout is as likely.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 7:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks, Looch!

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by vbc3 on Jul 4, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like hot dogs.

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by vbc3 on Jul 4, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oddly, this is the correct response to the last play.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 7:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Figured there wasn’t much else positive to say.

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by vbc3 on Jul 4, 2008 7:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

also appropriate- We didn’t let the runner advance to third!!!

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 7:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this team sucks.

by ASP on Jul 4, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Been meaning to say, I think your “Even when we’re winning I hate us” is one of my two candidates for post of the season.

by fleerdon on Jul 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Underwood: “Here’s a popup .. should be routine”

::Grady makes a sliding catch::

by Toxicadam on Jul 4, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hey, remember the beaning that went on in Cleveland against the Twins? Maybe if this game gets out of hand we’ll see some action.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope Dellucci doesn’t get punched in the face .. it’s all he has left going for him.

by Toxicadam on Jul 4, 2008 7:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I seem to recall hearing something about Dellucci being one of the best-dressed players in the game, though the source escapes me. Can anybody back me up on that?

by fleerdon on Jul 4, 2008 7:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice, Garko.

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by vbc3 on Jul 4, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SHOP

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by vbc3 on Jul 4, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

VAC

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shoppach ::flex::

by Toxicadam on Jul 4, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like Kelly Shoppach.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yea, me too. I would love to see him catch on as the everyday guy and move Victor to first.

by Toxicadam on Jul 4, 2008 7:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wonder if Garko could play third

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 7:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Although, his throwing runners out needs to improve.

by Toxicadam on Jul 4, 2008 7:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shop for DH

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 7:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just said that basically, up thread. But it just isn’t going to happen as long as Victor’s health lets him play catcher.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 7:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

10-2 Rays

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Going to see ‘em next Sunday at the Prog. I’m hoping we can at least make a game out of it. :)

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by vbc3 on Jul 4, 2008 7:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Rays remind me of the Indians from 94-95. How the just bust out of nowhere and start destroying teams.

by Toxicadam on Jul 4, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not quite the success or the explosiveness, but I agree, they came out of nowhere.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 7:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lofton, Vizquel, Baerga, Belle, Murray, Thome, Ramirez, Sorrento, Alomar

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 7:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, I am replying to my reply of my reply…
but I simply love that lineup. I think it has 3 HOF’ers and 3 borderline cases that won’t get in, but that is something you don’t see very often these days.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 8:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, I didn’t mean man for man. But, just the overall team.

The Rays current pitching staff makes up for their lack of power.

by Toxicadam on Jul 4, 2008 8:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know… just that they hold a special place in my heart and any time they are invoked I will defend the 95 team as sacred.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 8:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

&^(*#

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by vbc3 on Jul 4, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the past month Byrd’s trade value has gone from an A-ball player to a softball player.

by ASP on Jul 4, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yea, I can’t imagine him going for anything of value.

by Toxicadam on Jul 4, 2008 8:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

More of this and we’ll have trouble dealing him to Little League.

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by vbc3 on Jul 4, 2008 8:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Funny you should mention it, I was just thinking how totally awesome it would be to have Russ Branyan on my softball team.

by fleerdon on Jul 4, 2008 8:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s ok.. we are going to score a lot this game.

((?!))

by Toxicadam on Jul 4, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I”m not sure I can watch this team anymore with Wedge still at the controls — especially after the vote of confidence. Same with Shelton.

I did a Google image search for "Andy Marte." It turned up zero results.

by emd2k3 on Jul 4, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Twins unis are all sorts of ugly. That script on the front has been lame since 1985 or whenever it debuted.

Need to go back to the Killebrew-era duds, at least.

I did a Google image search for "Andy Marte." It turned up zero results.

by emd2k3 on Jul 4, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice, Kelly!

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by vbc3 on Jul 4, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah! Caught stealing!

I did a Google image search for "Andy Marte." It turned up zero results.

by emd2k3 on Jul 4, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come on, Baboo. Make this interesting.

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by vbc3 on Jul 4, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Blah.

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by vbc3 on Jul 4, 2008 8:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BENNY!!

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by vbc3 on Jul 4, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s our casey!

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it’s like he doesn’t want to leave.

by ASP on Jul 4, 2008 8:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come ON, guys. 1 out. DO IT.

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by vbc3 on Jul 4, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So, what type of player could Choo be, best case scenario? Abreu/Giles? Something less?

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He has more pop than GIles, no?

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 8:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Giles did have 4 seasons over 35 homeruns. But looking up to this point in his career minor league and major league numbers, I think its a fair comp. I wouldn’t expect THAT much power.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 8:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ok, I thought you meant Current Giles.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 8:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, and where was Jhonny ghoing?

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

God.

Ballgame, right there.

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by vbc3 on Jul 4, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There are some fantastic rumors out there on the comments thread section of:

http://blogs.jsonline.com/brewers/

Sorry about not posting the link correcty.

by cheech99 on Jul 4, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that is some interesting stuff. There is some sentiment that JJ Hardy is untouchable, which I find funny. The rumor that adds Masa in the deal makes a lot of sense.

Anyone have an opinoin about Rickie Weeks?

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 9:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice inning for Mr. Facebook

by Toxicadam on Jul 4, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A’s are beating the Sox again … CMON, WE CAN GET BACK INTO THIS RACE!!!

by Toxicadam on Jul 4, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shoppach 3 for 3.

Moral victories!

Punto being Punto!

by Toxicadam on Jul 4, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he has been VERY good since starting every day.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 9:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You take out his May where he only had 28 bats and OPSed 247, his season looks pretty stellar.

by supermarioelia on Jul 4, 2008 9:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

another opportunity wasted.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

J LEW

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

kiss of death

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 9:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yea, way to go… ass.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 9:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All of our runs have come from the long ball lately. Who are we, the White Sox?!

by Toxicadam on Jul 4, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

except we suck, yes

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 9:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

4 run lead somes insurmountable. :/

by Toxicadam on Jul 4, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lewis was so close to having a good outing.

by Toxicadam on Jul 4, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

pretty telling if that grainy picture was the best you could find of selby.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 9:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol. I couldn’t believe it myself. I tried 2 or 3 different search engines too.

by Toxicadam on Jul 4, 2008 9:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

o boy – this could get ugly (already is, but still)

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ANOTHER MORAL VICTORY

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Alas, we are in last place in the Moral Victory standings, too.

I did a Google image search for "Andy Marte." It turned up zero results.

by emd2k3 on Jul 4, 2008 9:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All of my earlier posts have disappeared. Oh well, I didn’t really like them anyway.

I did a Google image search for "Andy Marte." It turned up zero results.

by emd2k3 on Jul 4, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I see 3 of you up in here.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 9:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, they’re still there … that’s how memorable they are.!!!

I did a Google image search for "Andy Marte." It turned up zero results.

by emd2k3 on Jul 4, 2008 9:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So Slocum has pitched in the majors before… 2006. He loves when the Indians fall out of contention, he gets to play!

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

as opposed to Marte liking when we get blown out?

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 9:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who’s Marte?

I did a Google image search for "Andy Marte." It turned up zero results.

by emd2k3 on Jul 4, 2008 9:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hey, nice signature. just noticed it. Marte is the guy who catches the idiots who can’t throw pre-game.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 9:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks.

I did a Google image search for "Andy Marte." It turned up zero results.

by emd2k3 on Jul 4, 2008 9:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if it weren’t for this theme we have going, this’d make a decent avatar

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 9:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man, those unis are so over-designed.

I did a Google image search for "Andy Marte." It turned up zero results.

by emd2k3 on Jul 4, 2008 9:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

since June 30, Slocum has played more.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 9:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Win or lose, why is this team so boring?

I did a Google image search for "Andy Marte." It turned up zero results.

by emd2k3 on Jul 4, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

exactly the reason I’m outta here. have fun, guys.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 4, 2008 9:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

outside of Grady and CC, we have ZERO exciting/dominant players.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 9:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dynamic would be the word I was looking for.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 9:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Like our ‘dynamic’ manager?

I did a Google image search for "Andy Marte." It turned up zero results.

by emd2k3 on Jul 4, 2008 9:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The meaning of the word “dynamic” must have changed since the last time I looked it up if it applies to Wedge now. :-)

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Jul 4, 2008 9:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seventy-six games to go, and these guys play like zombies. Like a team playing the last week of September. With the exception of CC and Grady, as DaytonDogg says. If they were dogs, their tails would be between their legs. What a whipped bunch of guys.

Much of this must be a function of a terrible pen. Players wait for the inevitable. It is surprising how ineffective the Bisons pitchers have been this season.

by odradek on Jul 5, 2008 12:30 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice try Blake, you piece of crap.

I did a Google image search for "Andy Marte." It turned up zero results.

by emd2k3 on Jul 4, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Slocum sucks, too.

I did a Google image search for "Andy Marte." It turned up zero results.

by emd2k3 on Jul 4, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good. I’m glad that’s cleared up.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 9:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At least he’s not afraid to pitch inside.

I did a Google image search for "Andy Marte." It turned up zero results.

by emd2k3 on Jul 4, 2008 9:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who is this Jobo/Mujica/Julio/Fernando Cabrera/Jason Davis/etc wannabe

by ASP on Jul 4, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh my god.

--
2008: let the hate flow through you.

by vbc3 on Jul 4, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

See Indians, this is how you fucking hit … take what the pitcher gives you and go to the opposite field.

I did a Google image search for "Andy Marte." It turned up zero results.

by emd2k3 on Jul 4, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i’m interested to see what this time machine brings me.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 9:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, we could use more hitters who don’t strike out so much and are able to hit with authority the other way. We sometimes do that, but not often enough, especially for an offense with relatively little power.

Manufacturing runs is another skill we could do better with – of course, we need more guys in this lineup that are better at manufacturing runs, instead of just relying on the occasional homerun. More pieces we hopefully will attain soon. :-)

Just my 2 cents.

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Jul 4, 2008 9:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Uh, was that foul ball?

I did a Google image search for "Andy Marte." It turned up zero results.

by emd2k3 on Jul 4, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Slocum is making JoBo look good

by palcal on Jul 4, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

now THAT is bullpen reinforcement!

by ASP on Jul 4, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

each pitcher is worse than the next, and that’s hard to do when it’s Paul Byrd that’s the first pitcher

by ASP on Jul 4, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

worse than the previous*

by ASP on Jul 4, 2008 9:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rick Bauer is all like “I could do that once every 2 weeks!”

I did a Google image search for "Andy Marte." It turned up zero results.

by emd2k3 on Jul 4, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

These Indians make me feel like a kid again … in 1982.

I did a Google image search for "Andy Marte." It turned up zero results.

by emd2k3 on Jul 4, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As Hamilton said, some more hard throwers would be nice to add to the bullpen. Of course, they need to have solid to good command, but we need to find some of these guys – they’re certainly out there. Other teams are somehow able to get a hold of them.

That’s why someone why Luis Perdomo is intriguing, despite being 24-YO in AA – he has that type of electric arm we could use in the bullpen – let’s hope he develops.

Good news: Oakland leads the White Sox 7-1 in the bottom of the 9th – the Twins would be only a game behind the White Sox after tonight.

Just my 2 cents.

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Jul 4, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can’t blame these relievers. They never know if it’s going to be their last time pitching .. so they want to get as much camera time as possible.

by Toxicadam on Jul 4, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Then they should take their hats off and wipe the sweat from their brows. A few bewildered looks would be good, too.

by odradek on Jul 4, 2008 10:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Of course Dellucci is batting. Why would you want to let Franky G or Marte bat? That’s ludicrous!

by Toxicadam on Jul 4, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ask and you shall receive.

by DaytonDogg on Jul 4, 2008 10:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Carroll swung at ball 4.

Putrid display of bullpen work and lack of hitting. Same old story.

by Toxicadam on Jul 4, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lewis looked like he had more velocity tonight, hitting 88-90 pretty consistently. Better, but not quite all the way back. The runs scored on a walk and two hits on off-speed pitches.

Slocum came in throwing 87-88, which I thought was lower than he normally threw. I checked Fan Graphs and they had him at 91.4 in 2006. I was anxious to see him throw, because often pitchers will throw harder out of the bullpen than they do as starters because they don’t need to pace themselves. His velocity was disappointing to say the least, and the Twins showed him how successful he might just be throwing like that.

by TribeJay on Jul 4, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Blyleven mentioned how straight Lewis’ pitches were. Bremer said from up in the booth it looked like Lewis was throwing 93, but the radar said 88. Deceptive motion, he said.

by odradek on Jul 4, 2008 10:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, hitters have trouble picking up the ball against Lewis. Frankly, that’s why he made it to the bigs.

by TribeJay on Jul 5, 2008 12:51 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cleveland’s bullpen has struggled all season, and cutting the popular Borowski was a move the team felt it had to make.

-Tonight’s AP recap

Ahh, yes. I would walk into the Jake and see hundreds of fans wearing Borowski jerseys.

by Toxicadam on Jul 5, 2008 12:01 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe AP meant he was popular with his teammates:

“Joe meant a lot to everyone in the clubhouse,” said manager Eric Wedge, “but you go through so many things during a season that you have to learn to put that aside and play the game.”

by odradek on Jul 5, 2008 12:09 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, ok .. that makes sense.

by Toxicadam on Jul 5, 2008 12:13 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Our clubhouse record officially stands at 60-26, but without JoeBo it will certainly take a hit.

I did a Google image search for "Andy Marte." It turned up zero results.

by emd2k3 on Jul 5, 2008 1:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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