C.C to the Brew Crew — done deal, yes — we think
I would imagine that if this is a done deal, it'll be announced after the game. Anthony Castrovince says the deal is Matt LaPorta and two other prospects.
UPDATE: See also blog updates from Hoynes (1:38 p.m.) and Milwaukee's Journal-Sentinal (4:04 p.m.). [Jay]
UPDATE: Note new headline. Castro now says Shapiro told him directly that it's not a done deal, although Shapiro no doubt is partly making sure the Brewers aren't getting word through the media that the Indians think it's a done deal — i.e., keeping alive the idea that there are other serious bidders. Hoynes reported earlier that the Dodgers, Phillies and Rays were next in line behind the Brewers, but the Rays aren't going for the gusto, the Phillies don't have a big upper-minors guy, and Fox Sports now reports that the Dodgers are out of the running.
Meanwhile, LaPorta tellingly was not in the Double-A Huntsville lineup for tonight's game, while other rumored guys like Escobar and Gamel are in that lineup — consistent with Hardricourt's report that the Brewers have drawn the line at including two elite prospects for a three-month rental. [Jay]
UPDATE: Okay, now the Brewers reporter is saying it really is a done deal, as of 6:46 EST.
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wouldn’t it be great if shapiro called a press conference right now and announced byrd or blake was getting traded, and then at the very end bust out his pimp cain and LaPorta comes strolling in the room …
by Gradyforpresident on Jul 6, 2008 4:40 PM EDT 0 recs
Pull a Steve Jobs?
“Oh, and there’s just one more thing …”
by Jay on
Jul 6, 2008 5:07 PM EDT
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Pimp Cain? Isn’t that what we call Matt Cain?
I did a Google image search for "Andy Marte." It turned up zero results.
by emd2k3 on
Jul 7, 2008 1:34 PM EDT
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Shapiro has to pull the trigger. The Indians won’t win again until they move CC. And Casey, too.
by odradek on Jul 6, 2008 4:40 PM EDT 0 recs
I hope so. Who replaces CC in the rotation?
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on Jul 6, 2008 4:45 PM EDT 0 recs
turned the radio back on to Hammy saying “and our player of the game goes to … absolutely nobody”.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on Jul 6, 2008 4:47 PM EDT 0 recs
Probably won’t be official until the Brewers finish as well. Brewers are in the 7th right now
by Roger Dorn on Jul 6, 2008 4:47 PM EDT 0 recs
going to start listening to their game now
by Gradyforpresident on
Jul 6, 2008 4:48 PM EDT
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let us know what they say.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on
Jul 6, 2008 4:48 PM EDT
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Excuses for the swearing . . . but if we can’t land either Gallardo or Parra together with a solid position prospect, this deal is fucked.
by DocNo on Jul 6, 2008 4:50 PM EDT 0 recs
yeah . . . I’m serious. If there is no top-line pitching prospect/MLB-ready guy coming our way, we are in trouble. period.
by DocNo on
Jul 6, 2008 4:52 PM EDT
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are we talking 2008 here? if so, we’re gonna have the worst record in the AL soon regardless.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on
Jul 6, 2008 4:53 PM EDT
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Lee/Carmona/Laffey/Huff/Sowers until Westbrook. If the pen is good, that’s quite a fine rotation.
by Gradyforpresident on
Jul 6, 2008 4:54 PM EDT
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How is the pen going to get better next year? The Indians simply expect it being an odd year, the pen will be fine? How will the Indians get a closer? I haven’t looked at the free-agent list in a while, but Shapiro is going to have to make an exception and overpay for a couple of Linebrink-type relievers.
by odradek on
Jul 6, 2008 5:08 PM EDT
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This kid Sipp looks like he maybe the real deal – barring injuries of course.
Resident LGT beer kinda sewer
by mauichuck on
Jul 6, 2008 9:08 PM EDT
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The same way it got worse this year. It’s a bullpen. It happens.
Proud supporter of the Cleveland.
by fwembt on
Jul 6, 2008 9:45 PM EDT
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in all seriousness, our rotation doesn’t worry me so much
by Roger Dorn on
Jul 6, 2008 4:56 PM EDT
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Because we need starting pitching or you want starting pitching or whatever doesn’t mean that 4 months of Sabathia becomes worth Gallardo.
by afh4 on
Jul 6, 2008 4:55 PM EDT
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I know, I know . . . but you can’t blame a guy for occasionally having irrational hopes . . . not in my right mind
by DocNo on
Jul 7, 2008 9:12 AM EDT
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also, sowers never put up the numbers that huff is putting up right now in AAA (6 starts, so we’ll see if he can keep his k’s up). Sowers’ strikeouts suddenly slipped in AAA and have never returned.
by Gradyforpresident on
Jul 6, 2008 5:00 PM EDT
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DocNo, when I start using “Look at the stats!” as a personal catchphrase, please don’t take it as an insult. It’s not. I just think it’s a great way to end an argument.
by fleerdon on
Jul 6, 2008 5:02 PM EDT
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apologies for my laziness/lack of time at the moment, but . . . bullshit . . . you guys should both look at what Sowers did to AAA hitters before being called up, and then what he did in his first half year in the majors. I don’t have the time now to show you his stats (i have done that before in his defense), but he had a sub-2 era with approx. 1 hr. in 100 ip in AAA. He was dominating, minus the high-K rate. But he was not walking anyone as he is now, nor was he serving up HRs.
baseballcube.com should illustrate my point quickly enough
by DocNo on
Jul 6, 2008 5:26 PM EDT
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I don’t know how to convince you of my sincerity here, but I really am sincere. I can’t wait to be discussing politics with somebody and finish an argument with “Look at the stats!” The possibilities, DocNo, they’re endless.
I agree with you, for the most part, but I’m fearful of the Zach Duke effect. Great start, and middling ever since. I see he’s having an okay year now, but he’s still got some issues with the BBs.
by fleerdon on
Jul 6, 2008 6:41 PM EDT
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I don’t think you’ve got a solid grasp on the values involved here. Why would any team that needs starting pitching for a stretch run trade top-line starting pitching?
by afh4 on
Jul 6, 2008 4:54 PM EDT
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Cf. Gallardo. Top-line talent. If the Brewers aren’t contending next year, he could be expendable. He’s certainly not doing anything for them this year. He should be the target, not laporta
by DocNo on
Jul 6, 2008 4:57 PM EDT
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but this is beside the point. contending teams (which I’m sure Milwaukee plans to be in 2009) don’t trade young starting pitching.
by APV on
Jul 6, 2008 5:00 PM EDT
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actually, i`dont think they are planning on being that good in 09
by DaytonDogg on
Jul 6, 2008 5:04 PM EDT
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sorry, but why in the world do you think MIL would be the first option for CC now if they were planning on contending in 2009? They can’t keep CC or Sheets, so they go for it now.
Of course, the fact that they can’t afford CC or Sheets means that they won’t trade Gallardo or Parra kind of negates my first point, but still . . . that is who we should be after
by DocNo on
Jul 6, 2008 5:06 PM EDT
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CC isn’t worth those guys. At all. Not even close. Those players represent the most valuable commodity in baseball, period.
by afh4 on
Jul 6, 2008 5:17 PM EDT
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Gallardo can’t be traded anyway, can he? He is on the DL for a very long time.
by vegaswatch on
Jul 6, 2008 5:20 PM EDT
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Yeah I don’t know the rule. I assumed he could because DocNo was pushing it so hard but someone else will have to clarify it.
by afh4 on
Jul 6, 2008 5:21 PM EDT
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Tough to do with a player of any significant value. What happens when the guy never comes back?
by Jay on
Jul 6, 2008 5:54 PM EDT
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Really? And in what world would Milwaukee even think about that?
Proud supporter of the Cleveland.
by fwembt on
Jul 6, 2008 9:49 PM EDT
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Damn, I bet a guy 20 bucks that CC would end up with the Phils.
by Toxicadam on Jul 6, 2008 4:53 PM EDT 0 recs
“Nadal really did a great job of sticking it to Federer’s backhand”
by APV on
Jul 6, 2008 5:00 PM EDT
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I was being facetious, just the same old stuff about keep fighting. Getting unlucky
by Roger Dorn on
Jul 6, 2008 5:01 PM EDT
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Is anyone else listening to Uecker right now? I think he said someone was probably getting into makeup for 4:30 (central). I missed the first part.
by FranklinScott on Jul 6, 2008 5:00 PM EDT 0 recs
ah hell i’m listening and totally missed it
by Gradyforpresident on
Jul 6, 2008 5:01 PM EDT
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Watching Brewers TV on Extra Innings – no mention at all of a possible trade – they seem oblivious.
by IndyDave on Jul 6, 2008 5:02 PM EDT 0 recs
Not wanting to stir any pots, but there’s no real reason to delay a trade announcement until the end of the Brewers’ game unless there is a current Brewer (i.e. major leaguer) involved.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on Jul 6, 2008 5:03 PM EDT 0 recs
from a PR perspective, why would Milwaukee want to announce the acquisition of a HUGE player during a game, when its best fans aren’t necessarily in front of a television or internet.
by APV on
Jul 6, 2008 5:07 PM EDT
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I’m not saying they wouldn’t want to wait until after the game, especially since it’s not a long delay, but I imagine they want to get CC headed west-northwest as soon as possible, PR be damned.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on
Jul 6, 2008 5:10 PM EDT
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Any bets on which website uses the headline “C Cya later”?
by Roger Dorn on Jul 6, 2008 5:05 PM EDT 0 recs
ESPN is already on it, of course (near the bottom). Note also the cherry-picking in the Dead-Line box.
by FranklinScott on
Jul 6, 2008 5:35 PM EDT
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i’m actually really hoping we tank the rest of the year and get the #1 pick
by Gradyforpresident on Jul 6, 2008 5:06 PM EDT 0 recs
I haven’t looked that far ahead yet, is there a clear top-guy that it would matter to get?
by Fundamentals on
Jul 6, 2008 5:07 PM EDT
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Next year’s draft actually has some decent talent up top, yes.
by xrickx on
Jul 6, 2008 5:24 PM EDT
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Until this team gets somebody with some fire (Victor), that’s a real possibility.
by Toxicadam on
Jul 6, 2008 5:07 PM EDT
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I really think the team changes a lot psychologically when Casey goes. I hope so, at least. No more overachieving.
by odradek on
Jul 6, 2008 5:12 PM EDT
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So – do CC and Fielder have to sit on opposite side of the team plane to balance out the weight?
by IndyDave on Jul 6, 2008 5:07 PM EDT 3 recs
They are going to have a tough time getting that bird in the air – especially in Denver.
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