Game Thread: July 8, 2008
Cleveland Indians @ Detroit Tigers
Cleveland at Detroit, 7:05 PM (STO)
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Now begins The Rest Of The Season. :/
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by vbc3 on
Jul 8, 2008 6:17 PM EDT
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looking more forward to the Brewers game and the Akron box score than Cleveland/Detroit, to be honest.
by ASP on
Jul 8, 2008 6:20 PM EDT
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I still think CC will struggle today, given the playoff-type pressure on this start.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on
Jul 8, 2008 6:23 PM EDT
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4 starts! 3 bad!
Everyone who thinks CC is a choke artist can take their sample sizes and get lost.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on
Jul 8, 2008 6:27 PM EDT
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Boy, I sure hope for their sake that C.C. doesn’t wilt during the playoffs. Man, will they be pissed.
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by vbc3 on
Jul 8, 2008 6:28 PM EDT
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Drive down his value. Get him a rep as not being a big-game pitcher. Disappointed with his offers from NY and Boston, CC re-signs with CLE.
by odradek on
Jul 8, 2008 6:35 PM EDT
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Yah, I’m seriously debating picking up the MLB package to watch CC pitch in Milwaukee … if they can ever un-screw up their ALCS download debacle.
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by vbc3 on
Jul 8, 2008 6:26 PM EDT
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I debated this too.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on
Jul 8, 2008 6:44 PM EDT
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Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on
Jul 8, 2008 6:21 PM EDT
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Oh, and who’s our 25th man for tonight?
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on
Jul 8, 2008 6:23 PM EDT
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The guys on the 40-man roster who aren’t injured and aren’t on the 25 are
Zach Jackson, Reid Santos, Tony Sipp, Scott Lewis, Wyatt Toregas, Michael Aubrey, Asdrubal Cabrera, and Brad Snyder.
Jackson, Aubrey, Cabrera, and Snyder are all in the game for Buffalo right now. Sipp and Lewis are recovering from injuries, it won’t be them. Toregas and Santos are on the roster at Akron, I guess they’re possibilities, but I’m guessing they’ll add somebody who wasn’t on the 40-man roster before tonight.
by InfiniteMonkeyTypists on
Jul 8, 2008 6:31 PM EDT
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Couldn’t it quite likely just be the activation of Scott Elarton?
by JRontherim on
Jul 8, 2008 6:33 PM EDT
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Could be. Lewis is a dark horse for that question-mark rotation spot next year; I’m interested to see if he gets a call-up this season. Santos was recently, and rightfully, demoted—he’s unlikely.
by fleerdon on
Jul 8, 2008 6:36 PM EDT
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I’d imagine it’s Elarton and we go with an extra arm today (rightfully so with Sowers on the mound), and then Mastny gets sent down tomorrow for a bat.
by JRontherim on
Jul 8, 2008 6:37 PM EDT
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Zach Jackson’s pitched 2 shutout innings in relief so far, for what it’s worth. Only allowed one hit.
by JRontherim on
Jul 8, 2008 6:27 PM EDT
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Ginter was pulled after 3 innings because [gulp] he’s starting Saturday against the Devil Rays.
Summoning Aaron Small.
by xrickx on
Jul 8, 2008 6:39 PM EDT
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Shawn Chacon’s available on the cheap.
by fleerdon on
Jul 8, 2008 6:40 PM EDT
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If he beats up David Dellucci, are the Indians responsible for Dellucci’s salary?
by xrickx on
Jul 8, 2008 6:40 PM EDT
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The July 8 game between the Akron Aeros and Bowie Baysox at Canal Park has been postponed due to inclement weather. The game will be made up as part of a doubleheader Wednesday, July 9 at 6:05 p.m. Both games will be seven inning affairs.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on
Jul 8, 2008 6:28 PM EDT
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Hey, Adam, you see our boy Scott k’d 7 in 5 innings his last time out?
by fleerdon on
Jul 8, 2008 6:42 PM EDT
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The flowers I sent will have wilted by then. Phooey.
by fleerdon on
Jul 8, 2008 6:34 PM EDT
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The White Castle sliders I sent to Milwaukee should still be fresh.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on
Jul 8, 2008 6:37 PM EDT
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Is Carsten a slider man? Wait til he gets a load of Culver’s.
by fleerdon on
Jul 8, 2008 6:38 PM EDT
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MMMMM, Culver’s!
Free Andy Marte!
by woodsmeister on
Jul 8, 2008 8:27 PM EDT
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AUGH! My cake!!
Aw MAN!! I don’t think that I can take it ‘cause it took so long to bake it and I’ll never have that recipe again!!
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by vbc3 on
Jul 8, 2008 6:40 PM EDT
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Castrovince is saying that the starter on Saturday will not be Weaver or Huff; instead, Ginter, Reichart, or Halama.
by InfiniteMonkeyTypists on
Jul 8, 2008 6:38 PM EDT
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I just posted above. Ginter out after 3 innings tonight. Looks like this was his warm-up for his Saturday start against Tampa.
by xrickx on
Jul 8, 2008 6:40 PM EDT
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Rats, and I have Sunday tickets.
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by vbc3 on
Jul 8, 2008 6:42 PM EDT
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This is a FAMILY forum, mister.
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by vbc3 on
Jul 8, 2008 6:43 PM EDT
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According to ESPN, the Cubs just traded for Rich Harden and reliever Chad Gaudin from the A’s. Oakland recieved P Sean Gallagher, Of Matt Murton, IF Eric Patterson, and C Josh Donaldson.
by Buckeye Brad on
Jul 8, 2008 6:43 PM EDT
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Holy crap the brewers must be pissed..
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on
Jul 8, 2008 6:43 PM EDT
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I’m surprised Oakland did got rid of Harden already—they’re not that far behind the Angels, and have a better run differential.
by Buckeye Brad on
Jul 8, 2008 6:44 PM EDT
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Smith, Duke, and Eveland can’t keep up their current paces.
by xrickx on
Jul 8, 2008 6:45 PM EDT
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Oakland has a better run differential than everyone in the AL except Chicago, Tampa Bay, and Boston. And this was supposed to be their rebuilding year!
by Buckeye Brad on
Jul 8, 2008 6:48 PM EDT
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Yow.
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by vbc3 on
Jul 8, 2008 6:44 PM EDT
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I just read an article that had quoted Hendry. I did not expect this. Way to be “reactive,” Jim.
by xrickx on
Jul 8, 2008 6:44 PM EDT
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HOLY SHIT
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on
Jul 8, 2008 6:47 PM EDT
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The Fremont A’s are gonna be stacked.
by Fredward on
Jul 8, 2008 6:48 PM EDT
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I’m not so sure they wouldn’t be better off with Harden.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on
Jul 8, 2008 6:50 PM EDT
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Are you questioning Billy Beane? How dare you, sir. Actually – I think the A’s saw an opportunity to trade Harden for some value while he was healthy – not a frequent occurrance.
by Fredward on
Jul 8, 2008 7:04 PM EDT
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This is virtually everybody the Cubs had to trade.
by fleerdon on
Jul 8, 2008 6:49 PM EDT
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Which is exactly why they didn’t land Sabathia.
by xrickx on
Jul 8, 2008 6:49 PM EDT
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So …
Burnett to St. Louis?
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on
Jul 8, 2008 6:49 PM EDT
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I was actually thinking the Cards could end up with Byrd.
by xrickx on
Jul 8, 2008 6:50 PM EDT
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Talk about bringing a knife to gunfight.
by fleerdon on
Jul 8, 2008 6:52 PM EDT
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If you’re willing to go with Woody Williams and Todd Welldmeyer, you gotta love Paul Byrd.
by xrickx on
Jul 8, 2008 6:55 PM EDT
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In exchange for the entire city of Springfield, yeah.
by fleerdon on
Jul 8, 2008 6:50 PM EDT
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Do not like it at all for Oakland, though Billy Beane is better at his job than me.
Harden is super cheap next year, too. I assume his club option travels with him?
I think that’s a great move for Chicago.
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Jul 8, 2008 6:59 PM EDT
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That was my gut reaction, and 10 minutes of research backed it up. See below.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on
Jul 8, 2008 7:00 PM EDT
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yeah, my 4 minutes of research show the same… I think in a quarter of an hour of research we have conclusively proved Oakland got fleeced!
by DaytonDogg on
Jul 8, 2008 7:04 PM EDT
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Wow, it’s a shame Beane did absolutely no research on this. If only he knew you two.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on
Jul 8, 2008 7:07 PM EDT
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I know! we could have saved the A’s franchise from that no-nothing clown!
by DaytonDogg on
Jul 8, 2008 7:17 PM EDT
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agreed, i think the value they got there was simply no where near what harden is worth. even with his risks. but we don’t make the market i guess.
by Gradyforpresident on
Jul 8, 2008 7:21 PM EDT
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Minnesota’s visitor’s locker room looks like a dump (ref. a piece on STO pregame).
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on
Jul 8, 2008 6:46 PM EDT
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I hate that whole stadium and can’t wait for it to get demolished.
That said, they’re prolly gonna wish their new park had a retractable roof ...
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by vbc3 on
Jul 8, 2008 6:56 PM EDT
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Marte sits, Gut in LF
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on
Jul 8, 2008 6:52 PM EDT
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I thought the Gut was in Milwaukee?
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on
Jul 8, 2008 6:54 PM EDT
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sniff
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by vbc3 on
Jul 8, 2008 6:58 PM EDT
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Injury-riddled or not, I’m thinking the Cubs stole Harden.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on
Jul 8, 2008 7:00 PM EDT
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I posted in the other thread, I think Oakland’s organizational efficiency is a factor here too. Beane doesn’t struggle to find warm bodies to put up good to average numbers nor does he struggle to find innings eaters.
So why not take your big trade chip and try to get the impact guy?
Was Gaudin included for Chicago’s benefit or to clear space/money for Oakland?
That catcher will probably end up an MVP.
by afh4 on
Jul 8, 2008 7:06 PM EDT
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Beane’s gonna have a hell of a lot of roster options by the time they move to Fremont.
by fleerdon on
Jul 8, 2008 7:09 PM EDT
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Oakland’s DL is starting to look like the Indians and with 11K in Oakland last night and signing a DR pitching prospect last week, Beane is priming for Fremont
by palcal on
Jul 8, 2008 7:09 PM EDT
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What’s left of this team still 0wnz Verlander, I hope.
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by vbc3 on
Jul 8, 2008 7:05 PM EDT
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Serious question: Is Verlander a good pitcher?
by fleerdon on
Jul 8, 2008 7:06 PM EDT
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I sure thought so. I figured if the Tigers won the division this year, it would be on a Cy Young performance from Verlander.
Steel Nick
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Jul 8, 2008 7:09 PM EDT
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Drubs had a double and a homerun. But he also had a K and no walks.
His OPS is still only around .800 down there. Not great but, meh. He needs to control the plate. I don’t know what to make of him.
by afh4 on
Jul 8, 2008 7:07 PM EDT
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Look at it as if he hadn’t played in Cleveland this year. You’d be saying, if he can just be a little more patient in the second half, he’ll be primed for ‘09.
by fleerdon on
Jul 8, 2008 7:08 PM EDT
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He’s 22, in AAA, and holding his own just fine. Add in his big failure to start the year, and he’s rebounded nicely.
by xrickx on
Jul 8, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
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All I can say to Milwaukee is this: Ha ha!
Words do not do justice to my hatred for Boston sports teams.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:09 PM EDT
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The season may be lost, but I still want to beat the Tigers at any cost.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on
Jul 8, 2008 7:14 PM EDT
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I’m rooting for Blake to go 4-4 now and every night until he is traded.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on
Jul 8, 2008 7:15 PM EDT
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Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on
Jul 8, 2008 7:15 PM EDT
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He’s just so proven, and established. Unlike a, say, Brignac.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on
Jul 8, 2008 7:17 PM EDT
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Jhonny’s mad I said that.
Really though … I have to look into it, but does Brignac basically project to be Jhonny Peralta with average range?
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on
Jul 8, 2008 7:18 PM EDT
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And by Peralta I mean what Peralta should be.
I have to stop replying to myself.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on
Jul 8, 2008 7:18 PM EDT
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Not as much power. And not good defensively.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:19 PM EDT
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BPro says:
Blue-chip prospect, minor-league MVP, hype has cooled a bit, defense is average, projects to hit 25 home runs in the bigs.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on
Jul 8, 2008 7:22 PM EDT
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Olney’s lead article on ESPN.com is “Don’t Expect Cubs to Answer CC Trade.”
Nice.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:17 PM EDT
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Now it says “Quick Response.”
Theirs, or Chicagos?
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Jul 8, 2008 7:18 PM EDT
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BHOMB
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on
Jul 8, 2008 7:17 PM EDT
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As expected, the feared 3/4 combo of Blake/Peralta comes through again.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:18 PM EDT
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Sometimes I can barely tell the two apart.
Steel Nick
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Jul 8, 2008 7:19 PM EDT
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Gonna be a good night tonight.
LGT's resident beer connaisseur.
by LGT Patrick on
Jul 8, 2008 7:18 PM EDT
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You’ve not met Jeremy Sowers, have you?
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Jul 8, 2008 7:19 PM EDT
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I was referring to facing Verlander and then me switching to the Brewers later on.
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by LGT Patrick on
Jul 8, 2008 7:21 PM EDT
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Sportsline is terrible so far. I am like 3 ABs behind.
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by vbc3 on
Jul 8, 2008 7:20 PM EDT
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per CastroTurf, Juan Rincon will be brought up tomorrow
Elarton placed on DL (from inactive) and Crowe put on DL in Akron
by palcal on
Jul 8, 2008 7:20 PM EDT
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This blows my mind that Crowe has teased us with a hot streak and then went splat.
Steel Nick
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Jul 8, 2008 7:21 PM EDT
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bruised intercostals. painful, but not serious.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:31 PM EDT
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hmmmm
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:22 PM EDT
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Elarton’s injury is a non-baseball injury. Hrm. I really wanted to see if he can be a useful middle reliever.
As for Rincon…hrm. Why not?
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Jul 8, 2008 7:23 PM EDT
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condition not injury was the word used by AP
by palcal on
Jul 8, 2008 7:26 PM EDT
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Our DL is focused.
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by vbc3 on
Jul 8, 2008 7:24 PM EDT
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well I’m glad we’re bringing up the guy who got lit up in his 2 Buffalo appearances instead of a Jeff Stevens or Newsom.
by ASP on
Jul 8, 2008 7:24 PM EDT
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Maybe they don’t want to bring up a young guy until they can stabilize the bullpen and get the team righted. It could be pretty tough on a guy thrown into this mess.
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Jul 8, 2008 10:45 PM EDT
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I really, really want Sowers to turn it around.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:24 PM EDT
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Yeah, i was a little simplistic with that. Obviously I want him to succeed for the ballclub. I also have taken a liking to his demeanor, and as we learned last year, it’s like bonus fun when you love the players’ personalities, too.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:27 PM EDT
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I wasn’t being sarcastic. I agree. If Sowers turns it around that’s huge for what we do and don’t need in 2009.
Steel Nick
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Jul 8, 2008 7:28 PM EDT
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Right, I figured you weren’t being sarcastic, but I felt as though I hadn’t made my point clear. Yours is good, too.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:28 PM EDT
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plus he and eli manning were separated at birth (several years apart)
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Jul 8, 2008 8:25 PM EDT
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He’s got 15 starts to do it. No reason he can’t be the Paul Byrd the Indians saw in 2006 and 2007.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:25 PM EDT
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this gets to a post i have been meaning to post in the “why it’s good to lose now” thread. it doesn’t matter much if we win or lose from here on out. but the performances of our players do matter. we want laffey and sowers to look good. we want gutierrez to start hitting big homers again. we want big league choo to look big league for awhile. we want garko to not be a pile of turd. we want carmona, hafner, and vic back and playing well. all because they help us greatly moving into next season. and if these happen, we’ll win games. if they don’t, we’ll lose games. so while wins and losses don’t matter much, the underlying performances do, and we want those to be good.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:33 PM EDT
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what’s the likelihood that we see neither vic nor hafner again this year?
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Jul 8, 2008 8:26 PM EDT
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who knows. might as well say 50-50 for each of them.
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Jul 8, 2008 8:27 PM EDT
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last week Shapiro seemed more optimistic about Vic than Hafner; yesterday he did not distinguish between them
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Jul 8, 2008 8:28 PM EDT
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are we threading the brewers game? when does it start?
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Jul 8, 2008 7:24 PM EDT
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a. Dunno
b. 8:05 PM
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by vbc3 on
Jul 8, 2008 7:25 PM EDT
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I actually think I’m going to watch if I can get two games up on my screen at once.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:27 PM EDT
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also, Datz will pitch to Grady in HR Derby (CastroTurf)
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Jul 8, 2008 7:24 PM EDT
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... in order to begin stretching him out as a reliever.
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by vbc3 on
Jul 8, 2008 7:26 PM EDT
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Skinner will be in the outfield, continuously waving balls to just keep going.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:26 PM EDT
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sowers has a no-no through 1!
Words do not do justice to my hatred for Boston sports teams.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:26 PM EDT
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I watched a lot of Kuroda’s bid last night. It was really fun to see. A near-perfect game (into the 8th) with Scully calling the action.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on
Jul 8, 2008 7:27 PM EDT
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So you fell asleep in the 2nd and woke up after the game?
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No, I watched about from the end of the 5th on. It was pretty captivating, actually. Some SOB bunted in the 7th and almost made it.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on
Jul 8, 2008 7:29 PM EDT
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i was on gameday from the 6th to the 8th. when it said they bunted i was pissed.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on
Jul 8, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
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ya i saw the highlight on the espn recap
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on
Jul 8, 2008 7:40 PM EDT
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Allow me to pre-emptively jinx this jinx.
Or however that works.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:27 PM EDT
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we have 7 guys in the bullpen tonight and 8 tomorrow; could use up to 5 (or 6) of them tonight if necessary
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Jul 8, 2008 7:28 PM EDT
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I believe the Detroit crew just called him “MIke” Shapiro, but I’m not sure.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
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I really think Dellucci is going to find a way to strike out in two pitches his next at bat.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:31 PM EDT
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If Bugs Bunny is on the mound, watch out.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:33 PM EDT
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I think we should retire Sabathia’s number.
Also! I think we should retire David Dellucci, and keep his number.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
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so do we blame Buck Showalter for Dellucci and his three-year contract?
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Jul 8, 2008 7:33 PM EDT
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Blame Texas for signing Frank Catalanatto to help them compete for 3rd place.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:34 PM EDT
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Garko is another guy I’d like to succeed on a personal level. So there.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:34 PM EDT
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Miguel Cabrera’s gameday photo looks like an orc from lord of the rings.
Words do not do justice to my hatred for Boston sports teams.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:34 PM EDT
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Is it too early for the early hook here with Sowers?
Words do not do justice to my hatred for Boston sports teams.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:35 PM EDT
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Also i got time machined. what happened?
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Jul 8, 2008 7:36 PM EDT
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Drub singles and comes around to score on a Jordan Brown hit in the 1st inning of game 2 in Buffalo
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Jul 8, 2008 7:35 PM EDT
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In Pluto’s Sunday column he said he loved Jordan Brown and his .422 slugging percentage at Buffalo. I mean, really? Is it too much to ask that columnists at least know what is considered a good slugging percentage?
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Jul 8, 2008 7:46 PM EDT
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Ok…so now that Sabathia and Harden are gone, is Zito next?
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Jul 8, 2008 7:36 PM EDT
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Traded back to California for the state deficit
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Jul 8, 2008 7:36 PM EDT
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Zito’s been gone for a couple of years now.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:36 PM EDT
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I can’t tell if you’re serious.
Definitely Burnett. Maaaaaybe Bedard, but I don’t think he gets traded.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:37 PM EDT
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No, I’m not serious.
But I’ve been considering the possibility of the Giants trading Zito to themselves on the night of a full moon, which causes a global seizure, opens a black hole, and the contract-Zito included-vanishes forever.
Possible? Perhaps. But I find it unlikely.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:40 PM EDT
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As unlikely as Zito dominating us.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:42 PM EDT
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i think woody paige would tell you that the giants are likely to throw zito the rockies way in the all-but-agreed-to lincecum-for-holliday deal. in fact, zito may be the piece that gets the deal over the hump
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Jul 8, 2008 8:29 PM EDT
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to who and for what?
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Jul 8, 2008 7:37 PM EDT
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Yankees, along with Cain, for nothing.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:38 PM EDT
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for cash.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:40 PM EDT
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I really wish Sowers fastball sat consistently at 91-92 and not 89-90
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That would be “stuff.” Jeremy is “polish.”
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Jul 8, 2008 7:40 PM EDT
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Let’s Go Former Commodores!
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Jul 8, 2008 7:38 PM EDT
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Who was it that wantta hook Sowers?
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by mauichuck on
Jul 8, 2008 7:39 PM EDT
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i hate getting time machines, this is so not fair
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Jul 8, 2008 7:40 PM EDT
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wait this was good. why is everything opposite in here
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Jul 8, 2008 7:41 PM EDT
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[Five minutes of my life wasted, fruitlessly searching for a pic of Feldman from the Seinfeld Bizarro episode.]
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
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Jul 8, 2008 7:46 PM EDT
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Me too, just got the 3rd out on Gamecast
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
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Jul 8, 2008 7:41 PM EDT
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Grrrr. I think the Sportsline guy is updating at the end of every half inning. I’m still waiting on someone to bat after Cabrera.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:41 PM EDT
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I’ll take it. Danke.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:42 PM EDT
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Bitte. I saw you’re going to the game Sunday? I’ll be there too. It’s Sowers again, right?
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Jul 8, 2008 7:42 PM EDT
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Assuming the rotation is on track, yeah.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:43 PM EDT
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nm… I thought you said ‘rats’ because you were seeing Ginter on Sunday.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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Ginter.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:43 PM EDT
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no. roosterman confused me.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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Three straight walks then a BlakeSlam!
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
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I thought we were done with the whole, start Gutz off with a fake bunt so that he can begin the count down 0-1 thing…
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Jul 8, 2008 7:43 PM EDT
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GRADY (not a time machine today, obviously, but a cheer)
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not catchy. Kind of awkard. I don’t see this one catching on.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:45 PM EDT
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i’m working on one that goes “Detroit sinks”. Or maybe “Detroit lucks.” Still working on it.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:46 PM EDT
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PTBN update: Green 0-1, Brantley still not playing
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Jul 8, 2008 7:47 PM EDT
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Green again playing third base.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:48 PM EDT
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I kind of like Brantley’s skill set. Waaaaay young, doesn’t strike out, draws more walks, steals bases.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
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it is impressive how good he is at not striking out
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Not only that. But when not striking out, he also hits the ball and gets on base.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:52 PM EDT
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I’ve said it 100 times it seems now, I want Brantley.
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Jul 8, 2008 8:09 PM EDT
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I’m nervous for CC. I hope he dominates tonight.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:47 PM EDT
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And I hope the Rockies light him up like the Fourth of July.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:47 PM EDT
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I don’t start rooting against him until he rejects the free agent offer this December.
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He’s all ready rejected the best offer he’s ever gonna see from Cleveland.
Booooooooo CC!!!!
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Jul 8, 2008 7:49 PM EDT
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No. He’ll get a five year offer this offseason.
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Haven’t had a chance to check the other thread. I asked there too. Why?
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Jul 8, 2008 7:49 PM EDT
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Why boo C.C. (he said that in the other thread) and root for him to suck for the Brewers?
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Okay. That works for you. Not for Chuck I don’t think.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:53 PM EDT
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Cuz he ain’t an Indian and choose not to be an Indian. He’s a greedy SOB unworthy of wearing a Tribe uni. To Hell with him and his agent. Boooooooo!!!!
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Jul 8, 2008 7:54 PM EDT
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I agree, he could have signed. But him turning into Matt LaPorta might be a blessing. Would you rather have had Colon or Sizemore/Lee/Phillips—> Jeff Stevens so far?
Until it’s REALLY over (and I know, it’s 99% over) I can’t be mad.
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Posted by mauichuck, June 12, 2008:
I don’t blame Hafner the businessman for selling Shapiro damaged goods. I’d do and have done – the same.
Greedy SOB, huh?
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Can I rec this twice? Three times? What’s the ceiling on recs?
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Jul 8, 2008 8:11 PM EDT
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Never said I wasn’t a greedy SOB too.
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Jul 8, 2008 8:16 PM EDT
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So nobody else wearing a Tribe uniform is a greedy SOB?
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actually, we chose to make cc a non-indian at this point. he won’t officially make that choice until sometime this offseason.
nothing personal, chuck, but to me this attitude is just silly. this is professional sports in the 21st century, it’s just reality. cc pitched his heart out for this organization and has earned (relatively) every dime of the $130mm he’s going to get paid. i can’t fault a guy for being lured by a contract like that. i’ll cheer him except when he plays the tribe.
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My avatar has been updated to bring a close to my avatar-changing cycle.
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100/100!
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:48 PM EDT
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how is grady on second? gameday says walk and nothing else
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Steal #100
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Jul 8, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
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Dear Hammy and Hegan,
Joe Carter is no Grady Sizemore.
Regards,
JesseAK
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Jul 8, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
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What you think we can get an All Star 2B and an All Star C for him?
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similar only in that early in their careers they both had very good power/speed numbers
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Power/speed numbers very comparable, but Carter’s career high OBP was .335 in 1986. Thus, he is no Grady Sizemore.
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Now gameday updates with the steal and shows Casey striking out. Not a fair trade.
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I don’t expect much from this team anymore, but it still sucks when you are getting squeezed for each full inning.
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Well this is interesting.
I just got a text from a guy I know who lives in Huntsville, Alabama—a Cubs fan, oddly enough—who was at the Huntsville Stars (AA, where LaPorta came from) game last night. He wanted to let me know that he ended up meeting and chatting with an Indians scout while he was there.
I quizzed him a little bit for info. They spoke for only a brief time. The scout said he was here scouting the PTBNL.
This is of course puzzling because neither Green nor Brantley were there. Of course the scout wasn’t at liberty to say who he was scouting specifically.
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My first thought. He played, at least.
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am I missing something with Cain? I mean, his stats don’t really impress me compared to some of his teammates.
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I assume Brantley is there, just not playing.
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Watch him work out, run, hit in the cage, talk to coaches, whatever. And if you have to be in Huntsville anyway, there’s not a whole hell of a lot to do, may as well catch a ballgame.
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This actually makes sense. I was really confused for a second. If the PTBNL ended up being neither Bradley nor Green, that would throw my head for a loop.
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Unless the PTBNL is Gamel. I could be cool with that.
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!!!!!
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
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See how much he eats in the all-you-can eat buffet.
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Jonathan Lucroy is there, and playing. He DH’d last night, and is catching tonight.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:55 PM EDT
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that Huntsville team, even without Laporta, is stacked
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Sportsline is hereby fired. Y’all are my updates for the time being.
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If Sowers gives up 1 run this inning it’ll be a 4.5 ERA. That seems good. So expect one run this inning. That’s how I’m gonna think about this.
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What’s been going on so far?
Tonight will literally be the first Rockies game I’ve ever watched on TV … and I’ve lived in Colorado for 3 years. Sort of exciting.
Il faut d'abord durer.
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Jul 8, 2008 7:53 PM EDT
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I was always a Dante Bichette fan, myself.
Il faut d'abord durer.
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Andres Gallaraga. And Kevin Ritz.
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Haha. I always used to mimic his stance in the batting cage and a few times in a game. Didn’t quite work for me.
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2-run homer from JP, Sowers has been decent, not much else
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Here is a question for you guys (Inspired by Chuck):
Is there anyone playing for the Tribe now that will remain an Indian for the rest of their career(s)?
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clarification…no one under the age of 30. If Byrd retires at season’s end, that would qualify I suppose.
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There goes my “ha ha” answer.
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I didn’t specify, but I was thinking young guys.
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Nobody who’ll have a 10+ year career.
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I’d like to say Grady, but if we suck for the next few years, I gotta think he’ll leave.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
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