Game Thread: July 8, 2008
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looking more forward to the Brewers game and the Akron box score than Cleveland/Detroit, to be honest.
I still think CC will struggle today, given the playoff-type pressure on this start.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
4 starts! 3 bad!
Everyone who thinks CC is a choke artist can take their sample sizes and get lost.
Steel Nick
Yah, I’m seriously debating picking up the MLB package to watch CC pitch in Milwaukee … if they can ever un-screw up their ALCS download debacle.
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2008: let the hate flow through you.
Oh, and who’s our 25th man for tonight?
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
The guys on the 40-man roster who aren’t injured and aren’t on the 25 are
Zach Jackson, Reid Santos, Tony Sipp, Scott Lewis, Wyatt Toregas, Michael Aubrey, Asdrubal Cabrera, and Brad Snyder.
Jackson, Aubrey, Cabrera, and Snyder are all in the game for Buffalo right now. Sipp and Lewis are recovering from injuries, it won’t be them. Toregas and Santos are on the roster at Akron, I guess they’re possibilities, but I’m guessing they’ll add somebody who wasn’t on the 40-man roster before tonight.
by InfiniteMonkeyTypists on Jul 8, 2008 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Could be. Lewis is a dark horse for that question-mark rotation spot next year; I’m interested to see if he gets a call-up this season. Santos was recently, and rightfully, demoted—he’s unlikely.
by fleerdon on Jul 8, 2008 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Zach Jackson’s pitched 2 shutout innings in relief so far, for what it’s worth. Only allowed one hit.
The July 8 game between the Akron Aeros and Bowie Baysox at Canal Park has been postponed due to inclement weather. The game will be made up as part of a doubleheader Wednesday, July 9 at 6:05 p.m. Both games will be seven inning affairs.
Steel Nick
Hey, Adam, you see our boy Scott k’d 7 in 5 innings his last time out?
by fleerdon on Jul 8, 2008 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
The flowers I sent will have wilted by then. Phooey.
by fleerdon on Jul 8, 2008 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Carsten a slider man? Wait til he gets a load of Culver’s.
by fleerdon on Jul 8, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Castrovince is saying that the starter on Saturday will not be Weaver or Huff; instead, Ginter, Reichart, or Halama.
by InfiniteMonkeyTypists on Jul 8, 2008 6:38 PM EDT reply actions
This is a FAMILY forum, mister.
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by vbc3 on Jul 8, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
According to ESPN, the Cubs just traded for Rich Harden and reliever Chad Gaudin from the A’s. Oakland recieved P Sean Gallagher, Of Matt Murton, IF Eric Patterson, and C Josh Donaldson.
Holy crap the brewers must be pissed..
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on Jul 8, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m surprised Oakland did got rid of Harden already—they’re not that far behind the Angels, and have a better run differential.
HOLY SHIT
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
I’m not so sure they wouldn’t be better off with Harden.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
This is virtually everybody the Cubs had to trade.
by fleerdon on Jul 8, 2008 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Talk about bringing a knife to gunfight.
by fleerdon on Jul 8, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
In exchange for the entire city of Springfield, yeah.
by fleerdon on Jul 8, 2008 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Do not like it at all for Oakland, though Billy Beane is better at his job than me.
Harden is super cheap next year, too. I assume his club option travels with him?
I think that’s a great move for Chicago.
That was my gut reaction, and 10 minutes of research backed it up. See below.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
yeah, my 4 minutes of research show the same… I think in a quarter of an hour of research we have conclusively proved Oakland got fleeced!
agreed, i think the value they got there was simply no where near what harden is worth. even with his risks. but we don’t make the market i guess.
by Gradyforpresident on Jul 8, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Minnesota’s visitor’s locker room looks like a dump (ref. a piece on STO pregame).
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
Marte sits, Gut in LF
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
Injury-riddled or not, I’m thinking the Cubs stole Harden.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
I posted in the other thread, I think Oakland’s organizational efficiency is a factor here too. Beane doesn’t struggle to find warm bodies to put up good to average numbers nor does he struggle to find innings eaters.
So why not take your big trade chip and try to get the impact guy?
Was Gaudin included for Chicago’s benefit or to clear space/money for Oakland?
That catcher will probably end up an MVP.
Beane’s gonna have a hell of a lot of roster options by the time they move to Fremont.
by fleerdon on Jul 8, 2008 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Serious question: Is Verlander a good pitcher?
by fleerdon on Jul 8, 2008 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Drubs had a double and a homerun. But he also had a K and no walks.
His OPS is still only around .800 down there. Not great but, meh. He needs to control the plate. I don’t know what to make of him.
Look at it as if he hadn’t played in Cleveland this year. You’d be saying, if he can just be a little more patient in the second half, he’ll be primed for ‘09.
by fleerdon on Jul 8, 2008 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
All I can say to Milwaukee is this: Ha ha!
Words do not do justice to my hatred for Boston sports teams.
by FaustosSinkingFastball on Jul 8, 2008 7:09 PM EDT reply actions
1/1
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
Jhonny’s mad I said that.
Really though … I have to look into it, but does Brignac basically project to be Jhonny Peralta with average range?
Steel Nick
You’ve not met Jeremy Sowers, have you?
by xrickx on Jul 8, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
per CastroTurf, Juan Rincon will be brought up tomorrow
Elarton placed on DL (from inactive) and Crowe put on DL in Akron
Elarton’s injury is a non-baseball injury. Hrm. I really wanted to see if he can be a useful middle reliever.
As for Rincon…hrm. Why not?
well I’m glad we’re bringing up the guy who got lit up in his 2 Buffalo appearances instead of a Jeff Stevens or Newsom.
by ASP on Jul 8, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, i was a little simplistic with that. Obviously I want him to succeed for the ballclub. I also have taken a liking to his demeanor, and as we learned last year, it’s like bonus fun when you love the players’ personalities, too.
I wasn’t being sarcastic. I agree. If Sowers turns it around that’s huge for what we do and don’t need in 2009.
Steel Nick
Right, I figured you weren’t being sarcastic, but I felt as though I hadn’t made my point clear. Yours is good, too.
plus he and eli manning were separated at birth (several years apart)
by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 8, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
this gets to a post i have been meaning to post in the “why it’s good to lose now” thread. it doesn’t matter much if we win or lose from here on out. but the performances of our players do matter. we want laffey and sowers to look good. we want gutierrez to start hitting big homers again. we want big league choo to look big league for awhile. we want garko to not be a pile of turd. we want carmona, hafner, and vic back and playing well. all because they help us greatly moving into next season. and if these happen, we’ll win games. if they don’t, we’ll lose games. so while wins and losses don’t matter much, the underlying performances do, and we want those to be good.
by APV on Jul 8, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
what’s the likelihood that we see neither vic nor hafner again this year?
by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 8, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
who knows. might as well say 50-50 for each of them.
by APV on Jul 8, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
are we threading the brewers game? when does it start?
by Gradyforpresident on Jul 8, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions
... in order to begin stretching him out as a reliever.
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2008: let the hate flow through you.
by vbc3 on Jul 8, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Skinner will be in the outfield, continuously waving balls to just keep going.
by xrickx on Jul 8, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
sowers has a no-no through 1!
Words do not do justice to my hatred for Boston sports teams.
by FaustosSinkingFastball on Jul 8, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions
I watched a lot of Kuroda’s bid last night. It was really fun to see. A near-perfect game (into the 8th) with Scully calling the action.
Steel Nick
No, I watched about from the end of the 5th on. It was pretty captivating, actually. Some SOB bunted in the 7th and almost made it.
Steel Nick
i was on gameday from the 6th to the 8th. when it said they bunted i was pissed.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
I think we should retire Sabathia’s number.
Also! I think we should retire David Dellucci, and keep his number.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
by Fiddlesticks on Jul 8, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Miguel Cabrera’s gameday photo looks like an orc from lord of the rings.
Words do not do justice to my hatred for Boston sports teams.
by FaustosSinkingFastball on Jul 8, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions
Is it too early for the early hook here with Sowers?
Words do not do justice to my hatred for Boston sports teams.
by FaustosSinkingFastball on Jul 8, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions
I can’t tell if you’re serious.
Definitely Burnett. Maaaaaybe Bedard, but I don’t think he gets traded.
Steel Nick
No, I’m not serious.
But I’ve been considering the possibility of the Giants trading Zito to themselves on the night of a full moon, which causes a global seizure, opens a black hole, and the contract-Zito included-vanishes forever.
Possible? Perhaps. But I find it unlikely.
i think woody paige would tell you that the giants are likely to throw zito the rockies way in the all-but-agreed-to lincecum-for-holliday deal. in fact, zito may be the piece that gets the deal over the hump
by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 8, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too, just got the 3rd out on Gamecast
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on Jul 8, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Grrrr. I think the Sportsline guy is updating at the end of every half inning. I’m still waiting on someone to bat after Cabrera.
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2008: let the hate flow through you.
Ginter.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
not catchy. Kind of awkard. I don’t see this one catching on.
by fleerdon on Jul 8, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I kind of like Brantley’s skill set. Waaaaay young, doesn’t strike out, draws more walks, steals bases.
it is impressive how good he is at not striking out
by APV on Jul 8, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Cuz he ain’t an Indian and choose not to be an Indian. He’s a greedy SOB unworthy of wearing a Tribe uni. To Hell with him and his agent. Boooooooo!!!!
Resident LGT beer kinda sewer
Posted by mauichuck, June 12, 2008:
I don’t blame Hafner the businessman for selling Shapiro damaged goods. I’d do and have done – the same.
Greedy SOB, huh?
by joeee on Jul 8, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
actually, we chose to make cc a non-indian at this point. he won’t officially make that choice until sometime this offseason.
nothing personal, chuck, but to me this attitude is just silly. this is professional sports in the 21st century, it’s just reality. cc pitched his heart out for this organization and has earned (relatively) every dime of the $130mm he’s going to get paid. i can’t fault a guy for being lured by a contract like that. i’ll cheer him except when he plays the tribe.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 8, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
similar only in that early in their careers they both had very good power/speed numbers
by APV on Jul 8, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Well this is interesting.
I just got a text from a guy I know who lives in Huntsville, Alabama—a Cubs fan, oddly enough—who was at the Huntsville Stars (AA, where LaPorta came from) game last night. He wanted to let me know that he ended up meeting and chatting with an Indians scout while he was there.
I quizzed him a little bit for info. They spoke for only a brief time. The scout said he was here scouting the PTBNL.
This is of course puzzling because neither Green nor Brantley were there. Of course the scout wasn’t at liberty to say who he was scouting specifically.
Steel Nick
am I missing something with Cain? I mean, his stats don’t really impress me compared to some of his teammates.
by ASP on Jul 8, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I assume Brantley is there, just not playing.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
Watch him work out, run, hit in the cage, talk to coaches, whatever. And if you have to be in Huntsville anyway, there’s not a whole hell of a lot to do, may as well catch a ballgame.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
This actually makes sense. I was really confused for a second. If the PTBNL ended up being neither Bradley nor Green, that would throw my head for a loop.
Steel Nick
Jonathan Lucroy is there, and playing. He DH’d last night, and is catching tonight.
"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."
that Huntsville team, even without Laporta, is stacked
by APV on Jul 8, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
If Sowers gives up 1 run this inning it’ll be a 4.5 ERA. That seems good. So expect one run this inning. That’s how I’m gonna think about this.
What’s been going on so far?
Tonight will literally be the first Rockies game I’ve ever watched on TV … and I’ve lived in Colorado for 3 years. Sort of exciting.
Il faut d'abord durer.
Here is a question for you guys (Inspired by Chuck):
Is there anyone playing for the Tribe now that will remain an Indian for the rest of their career(s)?
LGT's resident beer connaisseur.
clarification…no one under the age of 30. If Byrd retires at season’s end, that would qualify I suppose.
by APV on Jul 8, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I may not be posting much in ten minutes because I’m going to get really into this CC start.
I already have Extra Innings on the proper channel with just the menu and background music on. It’s really bad music.
So, this sounds really nerdy, but Indians updates would be cool.
Steel Nick
Jeremy sure can blow leads
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
It’s on!
It opened with the press conference announcing the trade for Suh-BAY-thee-a.
God the announcers are excited. Long lines in Milwaukee.
Steel Nick
Just gone midday here, that looks great
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on Jul 8, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh my god he’s in a Brewers jersey.
I have to stop posting every time I have a reaction to something. It’ll just be endless.
Steel Nick
Man, working away and check back to get an update….......
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on Jul 8, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions
shapiro’s scouts at their best
The Cleveland Indians: Minor League Farm Team Affiliate of the MLB
by HireRockyColavito on Jul 8, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions
Those old school Sabathia Brewers jerseys looked pretty rad.
Sabathia v. Taveras. Let’s Go Former Tribe.
Il faut d'abord durer.
it looks nice, but why the hell would you buy one for 3 months?
by Gradyforpresident on Jul 9, 2008 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Does Sowers have options left? I guess I don’t get it, what’s he still doing around. He’s been terrible this year. Someone please educate me.
It's the Arizona talking, really.
he was doing great in Buffalo. What should we do? Send him back down so he can do great again?
by APV on Jul 8, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I honestly don’t know. But leaving him here to get shelled every time out hasn’t been successful.
It's the Arizona talking, really.
CC and Fielder would make a fairly good right side for the Pack to run behind!
Still an Ohio boy through and through!
by TribeLoverInNewYork on Jul 8, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions
Another awful AB from DD. I don’t see why they continue to give him AB’s. Why not sit him and see what Marte could do?
If Braun learns to draw walks, look out
by Gradyforpresident on Jul 8, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions
braun ops’ed over 1.000 in MLB in his age 23 year. laporta is in AA
by Gradyforpresident on Jul 8, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
This is painful. What’s the chances of going from a 96 win year to a 96 loss year? I’d say about 50-50.
Resident LGT beer kinda sewer
This comment has been in my mind for a little while and I just got around to a little research. The best I could find:
" September 11, 1998: The Florida Marlins lose to the Atlanta Braves, 8–2, to become the 1st World Series champion in history to lose 100 games the next season.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
How soon til Carmona gets back? Sowers isn’t fooling anyone; he looks like he’s shot putting the ball at the plate.
That’s just the problem. Sowers really needs to become a major league pitcher or the Indians are going to have to expend resources on starters (I don’t think Byrd will be back next year), which, given their bullpen and the state of their offense, they can’t really afford. I was hoping he was going to settle down, but it doesn’t look like it at all.
I thought I would be excited to see CC pitch tonight…but actually became depressed when I saw another fanbase cheering him. It’s kind of like watching an ex-girlfriend hook up.
by ShawnK on Jul 8, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Haha, this is an informal Brewers thead. CC just grounded out. He’s throwing smoke.
He's extremely quick and good.
It’s been great. I’ve realized in the last 38 minutes that I just love watching CC do baseball-related things. I don’t know if I’ll miss another Brewers start he makes.
Steel Nick
Well you’re welcome over at BCB anytime. I know I’ll pop in here to chat about LaPorta fairly often.
He's extremely quick and good.
i think he just stopped the rain and dried out the field with one sweeping hand gesture. kid’s got a future…
by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 8, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Indians record is 4-33 when trailing after 6 innings
Indians 31-20 when scoring first, only 6-31 when opponent scores first
I mean, I’m all for a top-5 draft slot. But losing that many games means a lot of things went REALLY wrong for the rest of the year. If Vic, Hafner, and Carmona come back, I expect a bit of decency.
PULL HIM ALREADY
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
at this point, i think i’m down w/ the Lou Brown theory of “he got himself into this…”
by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 8, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
and, once more, wedge and i have a slight difference of opinion…
by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 8, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
it’s not often a guy stays in long enough to give up 7 and be responsible for 2 more that Id be shocked if they don’t score.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.
by westbrook on Jul 8, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I was listening to Hammy on the way home, and he speculated there would be little chance we would see Huff this year because they are worried about keeping his innings down and don’t want to start his clock in a non-contending season. :(
I’m really concerned. I don’t see how this gets better unless some of the injured guys come back soon.
you mean we might not win the division??
by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 8, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
c
Damn, we have become the Royals. Actually worse, the Royals could actually score runs and be competitive within the division.
Currently the worst BA in the American League. Even with a 2006 Hafner and a 2007 Victor and 25 homers from LaPorta, the Tribe’s offense won’t be good enough to win in 2009.
If you pointed out how bad our OBP is (11th)- something that correlated more towards offense—or the 387 runs we’ve scored (10th)- the thing that actually is offense—I’d be more inclined to listen.
Steel Nick
Any way you slice it, the offense is appalling. Will this team score 600 runs? (That’s a rhetorical question; I would think they would.)
I’d like to think that everyone has lost even more fight now that CC is gone. Though this has been ongoing.
LGT's resident beer connaisseur.
Does Byrd have a chance against Bonine tomorrow?
The last 9 game losing streak was in 2004. When was the last 10-gamer?
So it looks like CC was his overanxious self for the first couple hitters… and then suddenly realized he was now pitching against National Leaguers.
Oop, spoke too soon I guess, back to back singles to start the 4th.
Are you sure they could find it, even with both hands and an atlas?
by InfiniteMonkeyTypists on Jul 9, 2008 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Damn, every time I switch from the Brewers game the Indians are pitching. Pass.
Has anyone upped their trade value?
Steel Nick
Wow, did anybody else realize that Rick Ankiel has 19 HRs? That’s astounding. Ankiel and Ludwick with solo shots for the Cards tonight.
So now I don’t any jerseys of active Tribe players. I have been thinking Fausto for awhile now, but Victor is also in the running. Any thoughts?
Shapiro is traveling with the team to Seattle and LA after the All-Star break, spending some Qualtiy time with Eric and the staff
We’ll see who is left on the staff and team after that trip.
by palcal on Jul 8, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
at least this game was short; I guess the players are still in a daze after the wake-up call;
Wedge may need to set the alarm clock before tomorrow’s game
In honor of CC, in honor of the Brew Crew, I’m cracking a Dortmunder.
If I was a millionaire athlete traded out of Cleveland, I’d have to have cases of GLBC shipped to me weekly. .... Daily.
Steel Nick
The Jesuits at St. I used to have a GLBC truck deliver to their place on W. 30th once a month. It was glorious, even in my teenage any-beer-is-good-beer days.
I’m drinking a Breckenridge Brew Vanilla Porter in honor of my life sucking (more specifically, the Tribe sucking and bar studying sucking away my will to live).
Il faut d'abord durer.
Sabathia strikes out PH Hawpe to end the inning. Swears a lot into his glove as he leaves the mound. I don’t know why I like when he does that, but I do.
As of right now it’s just a quality start. 6 IP, 3 ER, 5 BBs, 5 Ks.
Steel Nick
I don’t think C.C. being gone has sunk in for me yet. It still feels like he plays with us and we just sent him on a scouting expedition or something.
Damn near as many posts about the Brewers game as the Indians/Detroit contest. Two months ago I wouldn’t have believed it.
Clearly the fans, along with the players, have lost interest.
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