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All you need to know about the Indians' 2008 season is that Matt Ginter will be their starter Saturday against the Rays.

Carry on.

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I think wishing for a 2002 season is out of reach. Time to change my avatar to a 1991 theme.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CLE/1991.shtml

by Toxicadam on Jul 9, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I miss Joey Belle.

by KevinV on Jul 9, 2008 11:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great reference, unfortunately. A lot of similarities between that team and this one. At least for me. Only this year, my expectations of winning were much greater.

proverbial "moron in a hurry"

by 94neverout on Jul 10, 2008 10:24 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Watch your backs fronts, Nat’s. Were coming for you.

by KevinV on Jul 9, 2008 11:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope Wedge has them roll over for the Rays as much as he has them roll over for their division rivals.

by oxforddave on Jul 9, 2008 11:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Then again … 2.97 ERA over the past two months … 12 starts, 72.2 IP, 24 ER, 46 K, 21 BB. Not great peripherals, but hell, it’s not the worst I’ve ever seen.

by Jay on Jul 9, 2008 11:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good news. Found this on Castroturf. Most of you have probably already seen it.

The no-period thing is ridiculous. Sabathia himself said he really has no preference between “CC” and “C.C.” One of his representatives contacted the Brewers and asked that they honor the request for a change, so CC it is, I suppose. At least he’s not insisting we refer to him as “Maestro.”

by Voltaire on Jul 10, 2008 12:01 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Castro’s Seinfeld references are just so un-fresh.

by ASP on Jul 10, 2008 9:32 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bigger Seinfeld obsession: Castrovince or Mike Florio of ProFootballTrash.com?

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Jul 10, 2008 10:55 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

at least his aren’t forced.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 10, 2008 12:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Florio’s are really forced. He even will preface a Seinfeld reference, by saying “like in Seinfeld when…”

by Roger Dorn on Jul 10, 2008 1:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

as in, when he created a list, complete with user submissions, comparing about half of the NFL player/coach pool to a Seinfeld character.

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Jul 10, 2008 3:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think C.C.’s publicist ought to be checked for PED’s. His website had him in a Brewers uniform before Shapiro’s press conference was over.

On the other hand, his comment about punctuation seems more in line with his personality – like his answer to the question about why he wears the number 52 was “That’s the number they gave me.”

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Jul 10, 2008 10:30 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m still waiting for a new intro to the game broadcasts on radio. It was about this time in 2006 that they changed it.

by palcal on Jul 10, 2008 12:40 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

bluecollarteamBluecollarteam

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 10, 2008 1:47 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To borrow a line from one of Castrovince’s commenters: Indians Baseball: the Gong Show Version!.

by ken from alexandria on Jul 10, 2008 8:00 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m going to Cleveland this weekend and was actually considering going to Saturday night’s game. Now, not so much.

by mrich on Jul 10, 2008 10:26 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Canal Park’s only an hour away

by APV on Jul 10, 2008 10:27 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

of course, Reading (PA), where they’ll be this weekend, is quite a bit farther

by APV on Jul 10, 2008 10:28 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Captains are at home against the Asheville Tourists, however.

by FredOx on Jul 10, 2008 11:53 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hm, you know I just might do that. I just emailed somebody in the Lake County FO to see who the projected starter is for Saturday; if it’s somebody interesting I’ll probably make the trek over there.

/westside represent

by mrich on Jul 10, 2008 12:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Captains pitching staff is loaded with interesting guys.

by APV on Jul 10, 2008 12:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Noted control artist Chris Archer (61 BBs / 61 Ks in 71.2 IP) going Saturday, in case anybody was interested.

by mrich on Jul 10, 2008 12:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

His control’s an issue, but apparently his stuff is legit. This is from a piece by Tony Lastoria a while back recounting an opposing team’s scout’s take on some of the Indians prospects:

Chris Archer (RHP – Lake County): “Now this guy is really interesting. For me, he would be a notch above Miller. He was 89-93 MPH, 91 average. His curveball was 79 MPH. He has a projectable plus fastball. His curveball projects as a 55 for me, and his change as solid-average. He is a guy who I can see going bullpen or starter. His body type, there is room for more there and he is going to probably gain more. He has control and command issues, but my projection is based on flashes from what I have seen of him. His delivery and arm action faults are definitely correctable. In doing so, he will see an immediate command and control spike and then his projectable stuff will play up. When the stuff plays, he will see immediate improvement in four categories: K/9, HR/9, BB/9 and groundball percentage. He worked out of a bases loaded jams, has a live arm, plus velocity, projectable plus curveball, and a projectable average three-fingered straight change. His delivery he kind of rushed, he is rotational, and short in stride with the touchdown. He is just kind of a bad delivery kind of guy right now. Once that get straightens which is correctable and coachable because he is so young, when he stays on-line he flashes all that stuff you look for. Flash is his middle name right now, and he is a guy I see in the big leagues someday. I think the performance spike will come with the delivery cleanup and modifications. I like his on the field makeup. He is content and grinds through his wildness. He hangs in through his wildness, so you see the mental makeup there. He is young for the league and needs to repeat Low-A. I like this guy.”

Obviously he has to dramatically reduce his walks. But that’s not impossible.

by APV on Jul 10, 2008 1:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I there already. Anyone you want me to scout?

proverbial "moron in a hurry"

by 94neverout on Jul 10, 2008 4:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Laporta, of course

by APV on Jul 10, 2008 4:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I feel so ill. Somebody please make this go away.

It's the Arizona talking, really.

by RD74 on Jul 10, 2008 11:34 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

State of the team

I know I sound like a dopey ‘Tribe fan forever’ or worse, but I am not at all unhappy to see the team end one cycle and begin another. This version of the Indians peaked in the first inning of Game Five of the 2007 ALCS. It’s time to rebuild.

Like most Tribe fans, I wish we could have got more for CC, but if we got one player who matters, it was a good deal. It would have been the same if we had kept him till the end of the season; draft picks get you prospects, not players.

by JamesPowell on Jul 10, 2008 12:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think we all (or most of us anyway) will get there eventually, but I know I personally am really still in mourning for the 2007 team.

I think I’d feel a lot better if we had more prospects lighting it up in the minors, but other than LaPorta, Weglarz!, and the young pitchers in Kinston and Lake County there’s not much to get excited about. And only LaPorta really figures to impact the major league team within the next twelve months. So the rebuilding process we’ll have to go through hasn’t even begun to begin. It’s just kind of exhausting to even think about right now.

by mrich on Jul 10, 2008 12:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As long as Mills can OPS over .800 in Kinston at age 21 I’m pretty happy. I mean what do you want the guy to do?, he keeps this up he’ll be in AA next year at 22 and as he matures, gains even more power, and you have a near Laporta guy by age 23 either still in AA or just hitting AAA. I’m pretty excited about that.

by hans on Jul 10, 2008 5:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When does the Jeff Weaver era start? That is what has me most excited right now. Can he take Sower’s spot?

by mjschaefer on Jul 10, 2008 2:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At least we're not the Mariners!!!

Richie Sexson got released!!! No matter how bad we are, we can’t even be the best at being the worst.

by jerseywahoo on Jul 10, 2008 3:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Somewhere, Bavasi weeps.

by gte619n on Jul 10, 2008 3:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bavasi Weeps would be an awesome band name, btw.

by gte619n on Jul 10, 2008 3:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hello, Seattle! We’re Bavasi Weeps! We’re here to console you!

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 10, 2008 4:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think THE Bavasi Weeps is even a more awesome name.

I did a Google image search for "Andy Marte." It turned up zero results.

by emd2k3 on Jul 11, 2008 4:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or anything for that matter, tv show, book, movie, jesus it’s great

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 10, 2008 8:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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