Game Thread: August 11, 2008
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I don’t know if I can watch this game…..did you know that Aaron Rodgers is starting for Green Bay tonight?!? This is going to be the most-analyzed preseason game ever.
The Shin-Soo Choo of LGT.
Really, is nobody here tonight? I was just kidding about the football game…..I didn’t mean to send everyone away!
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 11, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
hi
You’re welcome for The Dennis Sarfate Experience.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
Good call….he never touched second base.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 11, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
bs?
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on Aug 11, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Guys, it’s 4-0, cheer up.
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
Marte – 9 RBI in 152 AB!
Still an Ohio boy through and through!
by TribeLoverInNewYork on Aug 11, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions
Hey, if you think about it, that’s 1 of an RBI every 17 ABs..that’s damn good.
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on Aug 11, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
1 of an RBI I’m an idiot
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on Aug 11, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Fasano – 5 RBI in 30 AB!
Still an Ohio boy through and through!
by TribeLoverInNewYork on Aug 11, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Marte has more RBI, therefore he is better. < /Kruk>
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on Aug 11, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Crisp for Shopvac was a good trade!
Still an Ohio boy through and through!
by TribeLoverInNewYork on Aug 11, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions
My bad…Shopvac for Crisp…and I’m not even drinking!
Still an Ohio boy through and through!
by TribeLoverInNewYork on Aug 11, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions
Hammy:
“Carmona’s perfect thru 2 innings”
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
Wow, this guy sucks.
He is the anti-fausto.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
Is that Meg Ryan behind home plate?
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
Carlos Santana (Kinston C from Blake deal) hit another HR tonight in his first at bat (first inning). He’s OPSing over 1.000 on the year.
I’m not so confident about this game.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
Tonight is John Adams’ 2800th game.
Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...
is that streak consecutive? are we in ripken jr territory (as far as games in a row…not having your wife balled by kevin costner)?
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 11, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
i figured a name like john adams + all that drumming = profit…
he pays for his seats still, right?
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 11, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
And one for his drum, I believe.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 11, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Since the ASB, Cabrera is hitting .262/.368/.400
Marte is hitting .194/.256/.319
Ships passing in the night…
So much for Marte taking advantage of this opportunity.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 11, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s the Dellucci we all know and love.
By the way, am I allowed to imagine the Indians dealing him to the Mets this month?
Imagine away. Maybe it will come true.
Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...
by woodsmeister on Aug 11, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Jake ahead of schedule. Expects the actual Westbrook in the 2nd half.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
THAT is fantastic news!
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 11, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
actual? how long have you been mailing it in, westbrook? if that is your real name…
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 11, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
see above. My first name is not Jake. My last name is not Westbrook.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
you mean this ISN’T jake westbrook posting on an indians forum? i feel so cheap…
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 11, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Classic Fausto
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
I mean, early season Fausto was still pretty walk-tastic.
Was he hanging out with Daniel Cabrera in the off-season?
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
When can we have Classic Fausto back? You remember him, the big lovable Dominican sidekick with the sick groundball ratios, dominating performances and the propensity to hit Dustin PEDroia.
I miss that guy.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
Rays lose Longoria to the DL with a fractured wrist (HBP by JJ Putz). Bummer. I don’t want the Red Sox to catch them.
And we thought the Mariners would not affect the pennant race this year.
Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...
by woodsmeister on Aug 11, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
WTF kind of trade was that, seriously?
A post-Tommy John A baller? For Adam Dunn??
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
Jay: “Contract status, ehmmm Contract Status, contract contract contract, YEARS, contract.”
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
I hate this new PTBNL strategy. I want to make SNAP JUDGMENTS NOW.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
Haha, it’s either guys who can’t be traded now because they are on the 40-man and haven’t/wouldn’t clear waivers, or young guys.
So, this PTBNL thing COMPLETELY circumvents that rule. Nice.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
God this Sharp “physicist” is freakin’ annoying.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
you keep that ball away from our Sal!
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 11, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Antoinetti: “unexpected offense” out of sal.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
I think a bases loaded HBP is the only way Jhonny has EVER jogged to home plate.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
Antonetti says that Marte has been above average defensively, but they want to see more from him offensively.
I believe he has mastered the understatement.
Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...
by woodsmeister on Aug 11, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I have such an awesome “MARTE PARTAY” sign my friend made for me last week and I don’t even think I want to use it anymore when I go to a game later this week. So depressing.
Says closer is the greatest need, back end needs improvement as a whole.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
Grady is 27 for 30 on SB attempts. That’s pretty f-in’ Boss.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
What is the lowest batting average in history for an Indian with more than 300 AB?
Marte could be in contention.
what in the hell? That was a strike but the 1st one wasn’t?
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
Mujica time. The impossible can now happen.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
Let’s not forget Marte and Drubs failed to get the run home last inning with the bases loaded and less than 2 outs. Especially boo on Cabrera for hacking 2-0 and popping up to the infield.
Did Markakis lose that?
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
Garko? GARKO? niiiiiiice
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
All I know is that the season is lost and you have a choice of batting a former-prospect-could-be-your-starting-3rd-baseman-next-season and a career utility infielder, both of whom are righties facing a righty, and you choose Carroll. Wedge still sucks.
18 more or 18 total? i’m not sure which i’m looking for w/ this ‘pen
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 11, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it just me, or are we looking at some run-of-the-mill offensive performances this season when Grady is a legit MVP candidate?
40/40 would get consideration in any season.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
sports illustrated all but handed the MVP to ian kinsler in the most recent issue…i realize he’s playing great ball, but he may not be the MVP on his own squad…i’m looking at you ramon vazquez
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 11, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, just got caught up.
When did Dellucci stop sucking? Well, I could tell you it was a month ago — 1000+ OPS since July 10 — but that would be a lie, because he actually had a 666 OPS from July 10 to August 1.
Since August 1 … 1802 OPS! .647 / .684 / 1.118 … “Waiver? Damn near killed ‘er!”
i still hate him so much my armpits smell
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 11, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, right, I forgot to answer his question … yes, Ryan, you are allowed to dream of his being traded to the Mets.
what can i, personally, do to make that a reality? i’ll seriously stop at virtually nothing…would a beasty floor routine get it done?
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 11, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Morneau is gonna steal another one.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
eh.. I kind of buy into that mythical “closer’s mentality” stuff. Donnelly has proven to have it, Meloan is still an unknown.
He’s got FOUR career saves.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
I could be wrong, but I thought if Donnelly was in the majors by Aug 6th we had an option on him next year? Or was that just to keep him this year?
Donnlley is very elbow-y.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
Now on to Marte. No real reason to be down on him.
He’s been a regular more or less since July 4, and his numbers are .221/.275/.368 — not good, certainly, but also not atrocious considering he had barely played at all since Spring Training before that point. This basically is his Spring Training, and there’s just no sense fretting over five weeks.
For another perspective … as of July 5, his numbers were .125 / .169 / .143, so that’s a 312 OPS during the “domino days” vs. 648 OPS since then. That is a trend in the right direction, and he is very, very likely to finish the season over .200, for those who care about that.
please finish over .200…I’m going to have a hard time pushing for him in the offseason with a sub-200 average
.202 really changes that?
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
Well, do the math. Domino days … .125 average in only 56 AB. Since then … .221 average in 95 AB. So he’s on pace to bring it up to 200 in another 100 AB or so.
He also has a terribly unlucky .225 BABIP — which might seem like it can’t just be bad luck, but remember, it’s only 164 PA, about six weeks of regular playing time, and it’s just not that weird to have that extreme of a BABIP. His PrOPS is 650 … slashed out to .233 / .285 / .366 … and that’s taking into account groundballs vs. line drives vs. flyballs vs. popups.
So he’s merely been bad … and aside from the domino days, not incomprehensibly bad. He’s not Mickey Rouse up there.
I think his defense has saved him for another look next year. Even Antonetti referred to him as a “plus defender”. So, the FO at least recognizes it. Plus, there is not much out there for a 3B FA.
CASEY BLAKE
< /wedge>
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
i gotta figure casey didn’t even cover his pool at his house in cleveland. the guy is all but back next year, which is awesome.
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 11, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I just hope they seriously entertain the idea of shifting Jhonny over to 3b. With the relative paucity of 3Bs set to be on the FA market next season, and with Marte’s apparent inability to produce anything above “fringe MLB player”, in order to stave off any ideas of bringing back Wedge I just think they must consider moving over Jhonny.
Why do people keep bringing this up. Essentially you’re saying:
Peralta + Asdrubal + Carroll/Barfield
is greater than
Marte + Perata + Asdrubal
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
I’m just saying it’s worth considering. And it’s not Peralta+Asdrubal+Barfield/Carrol but Peralta+Droobal+FA signing. I would agree that Marte is at least equal to Barfield/Carroll and he has much greater potential. I think Peralta+Marte+Droobal is better than Peralta+Droobal+Blake, and a resigning of Blake is what I fear most.
I see.
And which FA 2B is it that’s going to make that greater-than construction compute?
And how much will that cost us?
i was watching a dodger/d-back broadcast and heard vin scully say “o-dog anxiously awaiting the throw” about hudson…a life highlight, to be sure
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 11, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Shapiro, two weeks ago, making perfectly clear that he will not be doing what you think he must do:
That’s kind of a sore subject for me because I think Jhonny gets kind of beat up unjustly. I think the reason why is the easiest tool to identify in the game is speed and so guys see a guy that – they look for a shortstop and they think it should be a guy who can run fast. But Jhonny is as dependable and reliable on the average play as any SS in the game. He doesn’t have exceptional range but he makes the plays he needs to make and he’s developing into a hitter who has some tremendous ceiling. Though I do think his body is so big he’s going to outgrow that position at some point. But that point may be two, three, four years down the road, I’m not sure.
I love Shapiro.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 11, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Donnelly is a healthy Joe Borowski, and by that, I mean, what Joe Borowski was/would have been had he stayed healthy from 2004 until now.
Has Jensen become the “closer”
I’ve got Raffy P on my fantasy team, Do I need to pick up Jensen.
/drink
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
Can you believe we’ve scored 11 runs tonight?
by LeftyCatcher on Aug 11, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Can you believe we’ve scored 13 runs tonight?
by LeftyCatcher on Aug 11, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
is that bullpen or batting practice?
"...leading the league in most offensive categories. Including nose hairs."
by sarcasmdave on Aug 11, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
you have to have goals in professional sports
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 11, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
wish i could take credit, but that was your brainchild. i’m a fan.
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 11, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Who are these guys on this pitching staff? Randolph Beer? Is that his name?
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
What does a swimming commentator really say? Bio information?
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
They managed to dig up someone to commentate on water polo, you’re telling me they couldn’t find a swimming commentator?
Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.
They have plenty of swimming commentators who actually know what they’re talking about. NBC is just trying to turn Collinsworth into Bob Trumpy, Football Guy Who Talks About Other Sports, Too. Ironic, since Collinsworth replaced Trumpy on Cincinnati radio when Trumpy left to join NBC as FGWTAOST. Apparently, WLW is the Carolina League for the Summer Olympics.
anyone else notice that collinsworth (whom i like as a commentator, by the way, hated as a receiver) says NOTHING of value or substance on the set w/ costas? last night, costas asked cc about the US/China game, “man, it was something” was cc’s penetrating insight
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 11, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
If the Indians asked to bring Mujica back out to try and finish this game, I bet the Orioles would let them.
He was a whole body length ahead of everyone halfway through the race!
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 11, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
What is more amazing is that he voluntarily submits to some of the most intensive drug testing ever, just to prove he is clean.
Proud supporter of the Cleveland.
Also a giant a-hole. Let’s just say he is very aware of how good he is and thinks he should be entitled to certain privileges such as grabbing my girlfriend’s butt in b-dub’s. How can he get away with this behavior? And i quote “Because I’m Michael Phelps”.
¡Free Chan Perry!
by TheVanillaGorilla on Aug 11, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish i could argue with that. I just can’t root for those kind of guys. Apparently he’s a bit of a joke on campus at U of M. I much prefer the humble superstar type. Jason lezak is the man.
¡Free Chan Perry!
by TheVanillaGorilla on Aug 11, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
...as i was laying in the ditch, i think i figured out a way that we could get both bonds and griffey, and we wouldn’t even have to give up that much…
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 11, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I cannot think that way of anybody with that last name.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
Try harder:
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
Google search for “coughlin,” and this news item pops up …
(08-11) 07:25 PDT Beijing—Some sage advice from her fiancé helped Natalie Coughlin become a better breaststroker and as a result, she may be a factor in …
... so I’m trying to think what my own sage advice on that subject might be …
by Jay on Aug 11, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I wanted to type “Jensen Lewis Can’t©lose”, but then I thought he’s not really closing tonight, and he was effective the other night, so it doesn’t make any sense.
More medals for the Americans….so far tonight it’s been gold/bronze. gold/bronze, and gold/silver in swimming.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
I smell October…
...for the Browns ;)
My mathematical hopes for the Indians improve by half a game today…hooray!
Dawgs By Nature - Find out why Pittsburgh still sucks.
Wow what a game, left at 5-2 Tribe for a luncheon, get back 8 hours later (yes it was a great and long lunch) and find we eventually won, unbelievable. Can’t wait to get home to watch the highlights.
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
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