Game Thread: August 13, 2008
Baltimore Orioles at Cleveland Indians, Aug 13, 2008 7:05 PM EDT
Baltimore at Cleveland, 7:05 PM (STO)
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G. Sizemore cf
D. Dellucci dh
K. Shoppach c
J. Peralta ss
S. Choo lf
R. Garko 1b
F. Gutierrez rf 0
A. Marte 3b
A. Cabrera 2b
Ben Fran must be getting a day off.
by Toxicadam on Aug 13, 2008 6:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Longest win streak of the season starts tonight.
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In Cliff we trust.
by vbc3 on Aug 13, 2008 6:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Longest win streak of the season starts extends tonight.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My bad. I thought we’d already won five in a row earlier this season (April or May)?
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In Cliff we trust.
by vbc3 on Aug 13, 2008 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ohh, I read ya. Nevermind! :)
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In Cliff we trust.
by vbc3 on Aug 13, 2008 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way, courtesy of firejoemorgan.com, set up wake-up calls for your friends courtesy of Hannah Montana!
http://hannahmontanacalls.com/registration.aspx
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 6:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i can’t thank you enough for this…
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 13, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had to come up with seperate email addresses to get all these wakeup calls out to my friends.
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what does the call actually entail? anyone know?
by Nat on Aug 13, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to a few incredulous friends, just a general greeting. I chose to compel my friends to get to cheerleading practice.
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cheerleading practice and girl scouts were the two most urgent meetings my friends had to get to
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 13, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cooking Club for mine.
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In Cliff we trust.
by vbc3 on Aug 13, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joey Mahalic with a nice start for Lake County (6IP, 5H, 1R, 1BB, 2K). ERA’s under 3.50 now for the 19-year old.
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 6:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
UGH
He’s a little loudmouth punk.
MANNY RAMIREZ THINKS PEDROIA IS CRAZY. “PEDIE NEVER SHUTS UP, MAN. BUT THAT’S WHY WE LOVE HIM. HE MAKES US ALL LAUGH.”
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3512455
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 13, 2008 6:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I told myself to stop reading the Pedroia puff piece, but I’m glad I got to this:
“He acted way too cocky, way too big league for my taste,” says one former Triple-A teammate. “And I have to admit, I took some pleasure when he started off so badly. But I guess he’s proved he belongs. You can’t argue with the success the little SOB has had.”
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 13, 2008 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me or does baseball have the highest percentage of a-holes compared to any other sport?
by Toxicadam on Aug 13, 2008 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 13, 2008 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Basketball can’t be terribly far behind.
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In Cliff we trust.
by vbc3 on Aug 13, 2008 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone needs to put his photo on the Wikipedia page for “Napoleon Complex”. Seriously.
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 13, 2008 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That article made me want to punch my flatscreen monitor across the store.
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In Cliff we trust.
by vbc3 on Aug 13, 2008 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reyes seems to have a little more velocity than his first outing
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hot-college-chicks-when-showing-closeup’s-of-left-handed-batters alert
by ASP on Aug 13, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Our season has come to this …
::runs to the TV::
by Toxicadam on Aug 13, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they’re in neon hat guys seats, or close to where he usually sits. Whatever happened to that guy?
Now that they’re showing it, the girls in the first row to the closeup of RH batters aren’t bad either..
by ASP on Aug 13, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sportsline needs to show Snoggers tees ads next to the play-by-play or something to make up for this.
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In Cliff we trust.
by vbc3 on Aug 13, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that the one with the “I am McLovin” girl? Yes.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Aug 13, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of my faves, that one. :)
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In Cliff we trust.
by vbc3 on Aug 13, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Snorg tees, rather.
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In Cliff we trust.
by vbc3 on Aug 13, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn’t here for his first start, but I would be so personally happy if Reyes became successful for us. He’s been my pitching version of Matt Murton for quite some time.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Aug 13, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MAR TAY PAR TAY
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 13, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to the new Indians infield, Anthony Reyes
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
why is sto hypin up delucci’s AB? I’m more excited for sizemore’s….
by Nat on Aug 13, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I came here to post the same thing. lol
by Toxicadam on Aug 13, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you came back from the other room where you were watching the hot girls in the first row?
by Nat on Aug 13, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our season has come to this …
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 13, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m so conflicted… I want us to have a new season-high win streak, but I’d also like Guthrie to stick it to us. 1-0 win, maybe?
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 13, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
woh…I do not want Guthrie to stick it to us
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sort of.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 13, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haven’t we had enough former Tribe members stick it to us? I mean .. I’ve seen enough in my lifetime.
by Toxicadam on Aug 13, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d much rather Reyes go Guthrie for us.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Aug 13, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080813/METRO/808130360/&imw=Y
I’m moving to Detroit. Wish me luck.
by Toxicadam on Aug 13, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to own my own block.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Aug 13, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeesh. Might as well knock the house down.
by Ryan on Aug 13, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my thought as well. get a billboard in there.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 13, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Farewell and adieu to ye fair spanish ladies …
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In Cliff we trust.
by vbc3 on Aug 13, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no risk, no reward.
Or something like that…
by Ryan on Aug 13, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How Shoppach ever gets singles is a mystery to me.
How about a controlled swing, buddy.
by Toxicadam on Aug 13, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fantastic.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 13, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that was almost the coolest-looking thing ever.
by ASP on Aug 13, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s batting .354 with a 1.061 OPS. 10 homers since July 1st.
by Toxicadam on Aug 13, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta admit I’m shocked Millar is still a starter in the majors.
by Ryan on Aug 13, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
< /pedroia>
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 13, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was gonna make a comment about how I didn’t realize Baltimore was in the majors, but then I looked and they have a better record than we do…..
by Nat on Aug 13, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
O/T … Phelps is not human:
http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2008/08/13/the-michael-phelps-diet-dont-try-it-at-home/
by Fios on Aug 13, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think I read somewhere that the typical farmer 200 years ago had to eat that much a day because of all the energy they used up.
by Ryan on Aug 13, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Robert Fogel did work on this and came up with a similar conclusion. The calories were very basic though. People would eat pounds of potatoes and other simple carbs.
by obobcatu on Aug 13, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My god if I ate that much I’d do nothing but sleep and shit. Then again, I sit at a desk all day and am not an olympic athelete.
"I think people should be allowed to do anything they want. We haven't tried that for a while. Maybe this time it'll work." -George Carlin
by RD74 on Aug 13, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure I’ll overeat at some point in the next couple of days and rationalize it with, “yeah but look at how much Michael Phelps eats.”
It’s like that old Calvin & Hobbes joke. “You know how they say Einstein got bad grades in school? Well mine are even worse.”
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Aug 13, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Being an average Joe kinda sucks.
"I think people should be allowed to do anything they want. We haven't tried that for a while. Maybe this time it'll work." -George Carlin
by RD74 on Aug 13, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha—I loved Calvin and Hobbes! Also, Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs sounds like something Phelps would eat as well.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 13, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He also needs to pull up his pants.
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In Cliff we trust.
by vbc3 on Aug 13, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He can do what he wants. He’s an olympic god
"I think people should be allowed to do anything they want. We haven't tried that for a while. Maybe this time it'll work." -George Carlin
by RD74 on Aug 13, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And by the way, I think declaring things O/T in a game thread went bye bye long ago.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Aug 13, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Abner Abreu homered again yesterday. Still hasn’t walked, but he has 10 (10!) HR in 171 AB.
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But just to reiterate, thats a pace of roughly 35 HR, in the GCL, as a 19 year old. He is listed at 6’3’’, 170lbs. That is just ridiculous.
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but did you hear how much Michael Phelps eats?
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Aug 13, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously he has some filling out to do. Maybe Michael Phelps can recommend a diet for him.
by Ryan on Aug 13, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you guys get a whiff of that? It smells like disaster.
by Toxicadam on Aug 13, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Definitely. Marte’s been good defensively.
by Ryan on Aug 13, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice play though.
Reyes fastball is very flat.
by Toxicadam on Aug 13, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, Choo has a strong arm, not necessarily a good one.
by Ryan on Aug 13, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Underwood was commenting on the outfield arms, saying that the Indians have good arms in right and left.
by Ryan on Aug 13, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, that could have been worse. Lets get some runs.
by Toxicadam on Aug 13, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I, uh, don’t think they heard you.
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In Cliff we trust.
by vbc3 on Aug 13, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Garko is growing a beard. He will do anything to save his job.
by Toxicadam on Aug 13, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
OMG. He’s angling to be the new Blake!
by obobcatu on Aug 13, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wedge: “Ryan, have you been hustling more lately? Grinding maybe? You just look … different.”
by Fios on Aug 13, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
“Both, coach. ‘Scuse me, I’ve got some whittling to do.”
Wedge: /swoon.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Aug 13, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now he needs to claim some kin in Wichita.
"I think people should be allowed to do anything they want. We haven't tried that for a while. Maybe this time it'll work." -George Carlin
by RD74 on Aug 13, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll say it so Hammy doesn’t have to. Guthrie is perfect through two innings.
by Ryan on Aug 13, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Andy Marte’s new nickame should be “The Truth”
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I prefer “the fifth”. As in….
I plead the fifth
I need a fifth of something to watch this
Gets a hit in about a fifth of his ABs
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
God it’s good to be able to hang out with you guys.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way, I’m out of here when the Olympics get in full swing again. I’ve been glued.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Aug 13, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gotta say…...this interview is making me warm to Cliff
by Nat on Aug 13, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Crushed.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really really really would like to see Gutierrez finish off the season strong. Really.
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1.
Irrational mancrush.
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In Cliff we trust.
by vbc3 on Aug 13, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m sensing a Gutierrez two-day benching…
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ben Fran is stretching in the dugout isn’t he.
"I think people should be allowed to do anything they want. We haven't tried that for a while. Maybe this time it'll work." -George Carlin
by RD74 on Aug 13, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on. You don’t run when the ball is in front of you. That’s little league sh!t.
by Toxicadam on Aug 13, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FUCKING KIDDING ME. FUCK.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jeez, Cliff is like a different person. Did he hire the guy from Office Space to hypnotize him?
by Ryan on Aug 13, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He must have a new merchandising deal set up. 20% from every jersey sale.
by Toxicadam on Aug 13, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has the swearing rule been lifted yet? I mean, I figure it’s kind of a lord of the flies like environment in here.
YOU HEAR THAT JAY? YOU’RE PIGGY!!!
< ducks for impending ban >
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can be jack.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who would have predicted we’d have two Hobbes references. And that they’d be to two different Hobbes. LGT is awesome.
by obobcatu on Aug 13, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It has been a LOOOONG season my man.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One could take an appropriate “Lost” reference off of this also.
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan, I’ve seen you more in gamethreads this year than last year. Are you a sucker for a loser?
by Toxicadam on Aug 13, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just got a laptop and a wireless router. I can chat while “doing work”.
by Ryan on Aug 13, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
welcome to the crowd. i’m “working” on a syllabus right now.
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adjusting inventory here. Wheeeee.
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In Cliff we trust.
by vbc3 on Aug 13, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m developing a multi-tiered, GWT enabled enterprise application.
LETS GO TRIBE
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moved the computer to a different room than the TV, so had to get a laptop. Gamethreading is on a different level for me right now.
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want to get one of those Eee 901s and have a gigant Indians logo on it. I think that would be “the ultimate.” Conviceably, I could take it TO THE GAME, teather to my phone and Gamethread from the actual game, bringing my douchieness to PEDroia like levels.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They have a bar out in center. Gamethreading from the game with a beer would be epic, douchieness be damned.
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are we sure that Cliff once kicked somebody’s ass above his shoulders?
This is certainly the Sleepy Kitten.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“Weee wanna pitcher, not a belly itcher”
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In Cliff we trust.
by vbc3 on Aug 13, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that commercial online somewhere? That one so deserves a FanShot.
by Ryan on Aug 13, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No kidding. I wish it was at least on the first energy site so people from out-of-town can see ‘em, but I can’t find it anywhere.
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In Cliff we trust.
by vbc3 on Aug 13, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Earl Weaver once got thrown out of both ends of a double header BEFORE EITHER game had started.
Take that, Bobby Cox.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I iron my shirts, Anthony Reyes irons the brim of his cap.
by Ryan on Aug 13, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As long as he doesn’t iron it John Smoltz style I can deal.
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reyes seems to get plenty of snap on his breaking balls, and it doesn’t look like they time him up very easily. Must just be a hit-his-spots thing.
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s not very often you see a 2b come 4 ft across the bag to field a play. lol
by Toxicadam on Aug 13, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
More like the gag prize that they have on the Price is Right.
by Ryan on Aug 13, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah…I should have added the /sarc tag at the end
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What’s our best-case scenario with Righteous D, anyway? Is “he recovers his value and actually plays” still even on that map? Or is it “somebody is willing to take him and pay a chunk”?
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably trade him for an A-ball reliever at the end of Spring Training.
by Ryan on Aug 13, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way….can we have a virtual toast for getting out of the basement?
by Nat on Aug 13, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cheersing temporary and uncertain victories. Something alcoholic this way comes.
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve got an Imperial Dortmunder to it.
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...
by woodsmeister on Aug 13, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Starbucks Grande Americano with a jigger of Gentlemen Jack… see, it says, I’m working, but I still like to party.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
An ‘03 Sauvignon Blanc… I feel Pedroia-ish posting that.
by Fundamentals on Aug 13, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is more hoity tooty than I was thinking in my head…..but I’ll put the pinky up for ya
by Nat on Aug 13, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I’ve been in a fight with that kid.
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...
by woodsmeister on Aug 13, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but we’ll be back in it tomorrow…
just sayin’
by oaksterdam on Aug 13, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, then we have a round to take the edge off our misery.
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
big trade for the cavs today. i love mo williams for this squad
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 13, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what do you think this means for Delonte?
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t think they’d re-sign him before this
by Fios on Aug 13, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think he signs the tender (one year), starts at the 2 for us for most of the year, and leaves as an unrestricted free agent next season. his leverage basically disappeared w/ this trade, and there’s not much of a market for him right now, it doesn’t sound like.
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 13, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Starts at the 2? I doubt that. He’ll be the backup at PG, with Boobie sharing time at both guard positions.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 13, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I mean, we do still have Wally-World and Pavlovic (I think).
by obobcatu on Aug 13, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know Wally’s not that great or anything, but I actually like him starting. He played pretty well in the playoffs.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 13, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
every time they do something like this i get optimistic. but mike brown is still a sucky offensive coach & that they aren’t addressing
by oaksterdam on Aug 13, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he is horrible…but LeBron is the offense, and since this guy can score on his own, too, i think the need for an offensive genius on the bench is mitigated a little bit. perfect guy to complement LeBron on the perimeter
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 13, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I’m on board with you here too. Mo Williams is not some decent scorer either. This dude can is completely underrated on the national scene after being stuck in Milwaukee, but I watched him burn the Cavs twice last season and go shot for shot against Lebron. Getting Williams is the best news of the summer IMO.
by obobcatu on Aug 13, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree. in my opinion, this is a bigger trade, from an acquisition perspective, than the bulls trade during last season. that trade was important b/c we got to dump hughes’ salary, but as far as on-court impact, this is bigger. williams can absolutely fill it up and will draw more of the defense’s attention than hughes or wally or anyone else Lebron has ever played with.
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 13, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree about Mo—he might be the key to taking the Cavs to the next level, provided he doesn’t go all Larry Hughes on us.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 13, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So long, Damon ones.
Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...
by woodsmeister on Aug 13, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s actually pronouced Amen Owns (amon ones). No D, no J.
by obobcatu on Aug 13, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look, the guy was absolutely a liability on D but he was the only reliable shooter from 3 after Gibson went down
by Fios on Aug 13, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. I’m just echoing something some of my friends back at OU said about him. It’s funny anyway.
by obobcatu on Aug 13, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
to call him “reliable” over the last year and a half is not really accurate. relative to the other stiffs on the cavs he was reliable, but his stroke disappeared…williams shoots it much better, overall, than ones
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 13, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didn’t say over the past 3 years. He meant last season when Boobie got hurt. In that particular stretch Damon Jones was very awesome and lovable.
by obobcatu on Aug 13, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i didn’t say 3 years, either…the “last year and a half” actually covers last year. the guy was all but worthless, in my opinion.
to me, he was neither awesome, nor lovable. 19 mpg. $7mm per. don’t let the door hit you, amon…
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 13, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1) I meant last year specifically
2) He had the second-highest 3 point percentage on the team at .417 … I’m not saying bring him back but he was reliable from 3 last year
by Fios on Aug 13, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I really liked this trade. More scoring help. And we didn’t give up much—I like Joe Smith but Hickson should take his place.
I’d like to keep West around as a backup. He might just take the 1-year offer and see how much he plays this year.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 13, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Garko’s in particular get my blood up. He looks like the terrible golfer who has to watch every last bounce of his 196-yard drive while you wait by the ball-washer.
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is purely reactionary but it seems like Garko has hit an inordinate amount of those
by Fios on Aug 13, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fact: We suck.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
naw, we just like living in the basement. (with mom)
by oaksterdam on Aug 13, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I hate is that we’ll win four or five in a row, start to get in a semblance of a groove, and then have to be reminded of said fact. In brutal fashion.
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by vbc3 on Aug 13, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is the point of synchronized diving?
by Ryan on Aug 13, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve given up watching any sport that’s dependent on judges.
by Ryan on Aug 13, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. I like clocks, tape measures, and head to head competition
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I forget, is the velodrome still a televised Olympic event? That was always my favorite as a kid. We used to replicate it in the cul-de-sac with moderately disastrous results.
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a friend who goes so far as to claim that if your score depends on a judge, it’s a competition, not a sport.
Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...
by woodsmeister on Aug 13, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m even more extreme. For a sport to be a sport it must have some element of defense. If I cannot stop you from scoring somehow then it is not a sport, IMO. So golf, not a sport.
by obobcatu on Aug 13, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, there’s something suspect about any sport that is dominated by 15-year-old girls.
by SuddenSam on Aug 13, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You mean 12-year-old, right?
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by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NASCAR has an element of defense. Sport?
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not an exact science I realize. But in the spectrum of sport-not sport, Nascar is closer to being a sport than golf.
by obobcatu on Aug 13, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely NO WAY is Nascar more of a sport than golf. I’m not a huge golf fan or anything, but it’s much better than any kind of auto racing.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 13, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
neither is a sport. period.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 13, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
both are sports. exclamation point.
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 13, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can go with this.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 13, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no way…you’re telling me the 100m dash isn’t a sport? no defense there
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 13, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If 100m dash is a sport then so is a fastest text messager contest. Both are merely tests of who can do some physical activity the quickest.
by obobcatu on Aug 13, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not even close. there is no athleticism required in a fastest text message contest. there has to be some level of athletic skill involved in the task for it to be a sport.
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 13, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think your conception of what constitutes “athleticism” is pretty arbitrary. Where do you draw that line? Video games require hand eye cordination, so does hitting a 90mph fastball. How is one athletic and the other not?
by obobcatu on Aug 13, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about this…..if you can do it while sitting down, it’s not athletic.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 13, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i guess i fundamentally disagree that it requires hand-eye to play video games, but i’m not much of a video gamer. but sitting down while doing it, and performing better (or at least not worse) while drunk/high does not speak well to its athletic merits.
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 13, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
interesting question. i’d say that some of those wii sports games are certainly athletic…and maybe sports. but they’re versions of real live sports, right? as in, you need the same general skill set to be good at wii tennis as real tennis…perhaps minus some of the conditioning. i’d call them corollaries to “real” sports.
good question, though. and by the way, you can break a mad sweat playing wii…that helps my definition of sports.
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 13, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tiger Woods Golf on Wii is FANTASTIC….plus, I’m much better than in regular golf!
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 13, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way….track is the purest form of sports (and I don’t like it)—no helmets, or pads, or bats and balls, just people running to see who is fastest.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 13, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or jumping or throwing…a pure exhibition of athleticism, determined by who finishes first, jumps the highest, etc. i’m with you.
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 13, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love this definition, thank you (long tried to argue that golf is not a spot)
by Roger Dorn on Aug 13, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’ve been in this argument so many times…if it has judges, it’s a “sporting event”, not a “sport”. not saying that what divers/gymnasts/skaters do isn’t athletic, it clearly is, but those aren’t sports, in the pure sense
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 13, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you realize what the umpire is, right?
by JulioBernazard on Aug 13, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but i think that on the whole, in baseball, basketball, football, etc., the outcomes are overwhelmingly decided by the athletes…the officials have a role, but almost incidentally. the athletes do the scoring. in gymnastics, for example, the judges are the scoring.
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 13, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think you can deny the human element in any of the team sports you mention:
NBA - we saw with the crooked ref how easily things can be swayed
NFL - seems to me you could call a hold on any play you wanted to
MLB—there’s a human judgment on every ball not swung at
by JulioBernazard on Aug 13, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, certainly not. there’s a human element in pretty much everything, obviously, but my point is i think the human element, over a humongous sample set like balls not swung on or potential fouls called in the paint, the concept of “gross offsetting errors” kicks in, and you’ve got a GENERALLY level playing field. outliers like tim donaghy, in my opinion, don’t really prove that the contest is compromised in basketball as a whole. in gymnastics, the sport can exist w/o the judges.
how about this…if you can’t play a “pick-up” version of it, it’s not a sport. haven’t thought about that one until just now. thoughts?
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 13, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A little pick up NASCAR here tonight?
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who’s up for some pick-up pommel horse??
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 13, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’re going swimming in the river first
by Roger Dorn on Aug 13, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In college, my pro NASCAR friends and pro golf friends used to try to make cases for their “sportthood”. The best we could come up with was that if you are competing against a defined team at any given time, it was a sport, but if it was an individual competition against several competitors or against one individual as a member of a team, it was a competition, not a sport.
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m very borderline on NASCAR…golf is firmly a sport, in my book. requires great amounts of athletic skills like hand eye, balance, tolerance for pressure…you’re competing against other people directly, and you determine the score yourself. plus, conditioning can make you more effective than someone else. i think that’s a big sport factor.
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 13, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The skills involved are legit, but the fact that you compete against several differenct competitors who have no effect on your performance leads me to believe it is a competition.
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think this is similar to the “no defense” argument.
i’m not sure “no effect” is quite right…do the competitors have an effect on what you do in track and field? i’d argue that in everything except the sprints, where it’s a little different, the competitors have a similiar type of effect as in golf. and i consider all types of track and field to be sport, unquestionably.
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 13, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unquestionably, to me, is a word that insinuates bias. In a race, or a golf match, or in a auto race, you competitor’s effect on your performance is not directly defense, it is pressure. What is the difference between a NASCAR race and a sprint?
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you mean aside from 3600 pounds of car?
my use of “unquestionably” isn’t intended with bias…i’m not a track athlete by any stretch, if that’s what you’re implying. i guess it’s just meant to illustrate a strongly held belief. personally, i don’t think it gets much more elemental than track and field when it comes to sports.
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 13, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3600 pounds of car is incidental to me. It is necessary to the competition, not reflective of how competitive it is. What about several hundred pounds of horse?
Historically, you are right, the original Olympics involved races and gymnastics and the like. Its just that when competing against several individuals, it becomes more a competition against them than a cooperative against another team.
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boxing? Fights end in knockouts sometimes, but most of the time it comes down to judges’ scorecards. I assume the same goes for other fighting sports, but I don’t really know.
"...leading the league in most offensive categories. Including nose hairs."
by sarcasmdave on Aug 13, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This and “legit” wrestling are two examples of exceptions to my above theory.
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t have television service and I’m not a big Olympics fan, anyway. But I was staying at a place with TV the other night and caught a couple hours. First they had men’s synchronized diving, then they shifted to the heterosexual demographic with women’s beach volleyball.
I came away with two observations:
1. The Olympics should be classified as soft-core porn.
2. I can’t stop thinking about Kerri Walsh.
by SuddenSam on Aug 13, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I take it you like a certain attribute in your women?
by JulioBernazard on Aug 13, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
6-foot-2 and toned works okay for me.
by SuddenSam on Aug 13, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m suspecting she’s too toned for obocatu. She looks fairly good to me.
by JulioBernazard on Aug 13, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m not on the kerri walsh bus, either.
misty may, on the other hand.
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 13, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I saw the volleyball “uniforms” for this year while flipping around last night. Yow.
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by vbc3 on Aug 13, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I started to flip around through video feeds late last night out of boredom. After watching a few minutes of, uh, water polo, fencing, et. al. before realizing that I’m just never going to be a sports snob, no matter how hard I try.
That said, I still find Olympic curling absolutely fascinating in a “why have I been watching this for a half hour now” way.
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by vbc3 on Aug 13, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Check out handball and badminton. Both are strangely interesting.
by Ryan on Aug 13, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a big handball fan. Fast, high scoring, simple to understand.
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 on curling. During the last winter Olympics, a friend and I got into a heated discussion on curling strategy at one point, until his wife walked in and reminded us we were actually talking about curling.
by Fundamentals on Aug 13, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I used to always watch curling on the montreal channel when I was studying in college…(went to school in Burlington, VT). It’s ideal because you can get work done but don’t get too bored
by Nat on Aug 13, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t wait to buy a slot in Andy Marte’s Baseball Camp.
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Schedule at El Campamento de Béisbol :
reveille: 11:00a
noon: lunch
2:00-2:15 calisthenics, stretching
2:15-2:30 pop-up practice
2:30-2:45 motivational speech
2:45-5:00 nap or siesta
5:30 dinner
7:00 dominoes
midnight, lights out
by odradek on Aug 13, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOW!!
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the player formerly known as pronk still isn’t ready for his rehab, says hammy. let’s just put him on the shelf & see what next year brings. why bother trying to get him back this year?
by oaksterdam on Aug 13, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He should be at least at 90% by next April 1, I’d think.
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by vbc3 on Aug 13, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s 2008 optimism for ya.
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by vbc3 on Aug 13, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roberts is fast too!
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jeter-esque!
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Underwood doesn’t get it. “Kelvin De La Cruz pitches for Kinston, giving up x runs and improving to (only?... noting his dissapointment) 3-1”.
Matt, get a clue.
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“Yankees now 8.5 games out.”
My day just got a little brighter.
by Ryan on Aug 13, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thanks. i think we all appreciated that.
by oaksterdam on Aug 13, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nick Markakis is good.
Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...
by woodsmeister on Aug 13, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“Okay, O’s, new strategy: Hit it NOT at that Marte kid….ah, dammit Mora…”
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
when are we gonna figure out that we just have to hit the f’er every time he steps in. at least we’d limit him to a single base.
by oaksterdam on Aug 13, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we should save that strategy for punks like Pedroia and Phillips.
Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...
by woodsmeister on Aug 13, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hoping to be back for a post-season…quite a gamble
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s too bad. I really like watching him play. He’s one of those smile guys.
By smile guys I mean like Griffey used to be. Not the maniacal Sheffield/Bradley/Ugeth Urbina smile.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are apparently looking at Randy Winn.
Yeah, that’ll work.
by Ryan on Aug 13, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MORE PARTAYS
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 13, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
YESSS
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 13, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
PARTAY!!!
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s my kind of double. The Jay Payton is not a center fielder double.
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A little late, but Hammy is on board with Marte’s D now.
by JulioBernazard on Aug 13, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hammy has been listening to tapes praising Marte while he sleeps for the last month in order to change his attitute
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
nice marte.
now it is time for a strike out swinging plus a popout to first.
by oaksterdam on Aug 13, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2008
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m infected.
please, bring the cure (or at least more booze)
by oaksterdam on Aug 13, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marte, glancing around confused, wondering why he hasn’t been pulled for a pinch runner.
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s early yet and a close game – there will be time for him to get a bunt in later, so no pinch runner.
Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...
by woodsmeister on Aug 13, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
zz
GRADY
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 13, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hambone announce that like it was hit to Milwaukee
by JulioBernazard on Aug 13, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
synchronized diving is real lame. and these “shower scenes” seem a little unnecessary
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
since when is a shower scene ever unnecessary?
by oaksterdam on Aug 13, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
when it involves two synchronrized divers on NBC
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gaaaah DVR DVR DVR
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by vbc3 on Aug 13, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ACK! Adam, I could’ve used the heads-up on this being the dudes’ synchro-dive. This is most homoerotic thing I’ve seen since 300.
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gaaaah ERASE DVR ERASE DVR ERASE DVR
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by vbc3 on Aug 13, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The description of synchronized diving as merely lame does not go nearly far enough to describe what a total waste of prime time airtime it has become.
Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...
by woodsmeister on Aug 13, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So yeah, people would rather watch this than tape-delayed baseball?
by Ryan on Aug 13, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grady has REALLY got to pick it up. At this rate, he’s not going to get 40/40, which, would really ruin the rest of the season for me.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cliff winning 20 would make for a dandy consolation prize.
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by vbc3 on Aug 13, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, at this rate we’ll score a second run during the 1st inning tomorrow.
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by vbc3 on Aug 13, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Guthrie ranks 8th in the AL in WHIP (out of 43 qualifying starters)
by palcal on Aug 13, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And first in the heart of E5.
Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...
by woodsmeister on Aug 13, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any stats on Luke Scott? I’m curious to see how he’s doing.
by Ryan on Aug 13, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
much better than Jeriome Robertson
by JulioBernazard on Aug 14, 2008 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shouldn’t Reyes strike someone out sometime?
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. Despite the groundballs, you’d like to see some K’s
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean…he throws a 94 mph fastball and a 79 mph change/curve. Shouldn’t he be able to keep someone off balance with that?
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With that mix of pitches, you would assume. Perhaps its more about a lack of deception?
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This particular approach might be less effective against a better offense, it’s true. He’s certainly dancing with the girl what brung him, though.
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s given up 2 runs, sir.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 13, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty good outing against a decent offense.
by Ryan on Aug 13, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Marte and Frankie are the smoooooooooovest
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If that’s all for Reyes, it was pretty effective. Albeit with 0 Ks.
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That “This day in 1948” bit was pretty awesome. Paige, Doby, etc.
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So how do we feel about Our Guy (Stevens) blowing America’s ninth inning lead against South Korea yesterday?
by obobcatu on Aug 13, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully, he won’t be needed against the Dutch today.
by palcal on Aug 13, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice. haven’t said that since undergrad.
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just want them all back healthy. They can choke all they want, just don’t get hurt.
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would almost rather have Franky G and Andy in the lineup everyday, even if they only hit .230 for the year. I am addicted to good defense.
Call it, the Toronto strategy.
by Toxicadam on Aug 13, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Will it keep him from giving up 4 runs? Time will tell.
Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.
by zempf on Aug 13, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they’re stealing signs on him.
“Fastball.”
“Fastball.”
“Fastball.”
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh jeeze…. HERE WE GO.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And Eric Wedge gives the Bullpen Wheel of Fortune a hearty spin, chanting “Big money, big money, big money”
Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...
by woodsmeister on Aug 13, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
you came just in time for Raffy B’s 1-2-3 7th
by palcal on Aug 13, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well then…. pretty good inning by Raffy B.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can someone who is flipping let me know when diving coverage is over?
by Roger Dorn on Aug 13, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They said after the commercial, they’re coming back with beach volleyball.
by Fundamentals on Aug 13, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m watching handball online – much more interesting.
by Ryan on Aug 13, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love handball, really fun to play too
by Roger Dorn on Aug 13, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got my first JUG from Michels during the handball unit.
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This sounds awesome, but I have no clue what it means.
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Justice Under God. Catholic detention. We were doing a drill that involved groups of guys standing around the handball goal, throwing at intervals, so if you’re the goalie, you have to keep shifting. Well, during my term as goalie, the yahoos decide they’re all throwing at the same time. I see 180 degrees of guys getting ready to pelt me, so I walk out of the class. And I got the detention.
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, that’s totally something Michaels would do. He tried to give me a JUG for not properly using my ID when checking out a basketball after school one day
by Roger Dorn on Aug 13, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sounds like some Old Testament punishment.
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He regularly called me out in health for “not giving my best effort.” I still got an A. I was kind of the Jhonny Peralta of health.
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He gave me a B- in gym class after the basketball session, except the problem was that I played for the JV basketball team. My mom was in such disbelief that she called him and asked if he had any idea what he was doing
by Roger Dorn on Aug 13, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had Michaels for freshman and sophomore gym, unfortunate
by Roger Dorn on Aug 13, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, a legendary jackass of a gym coach at Ignatius, which I attended for a year before we moved. RD is an alum.
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hated handball in gym…at least being goalie
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the Norway girls are smokin hot. I hope this is on til 2 am, I’ve got a lot of stuff to do.
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, D’Arcy Egan will be a guest on Training Camp Daily.
by Ryan on Aug 13, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s the host of an outdoors show on STO.
Joe Thomas has been the co-host this season, and I guess he’s returning the favor.
by Ryan on Aug 13, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is apparently an outdoor enthusiast
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, sorry. I meant how does he come across?
by Roger Dorn on Aug 13, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get the same kind of laugh from the “How am I driving?” bumper stickers … I like to say “Jesus, I hope you know”
by Fios on Aug 13, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The lineman?
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyday is cheesy crossover day at STO.
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“How to catch the big Walleye, plus, offensive line updates!”
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
big picture?
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 13, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chris Archer is battling Joey Mahalic of the best start by a 19-year old for Lake County today
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The O’s have no bullpen, right?
PUT IN JAMIE WALKER!!
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seconded. I like his name almost as much as that Balfour guy in Tampa Bay.
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In Cliff we trust.
by vbc3 on Aug 13, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The O’s want no part of a Jamie Walker-Ben Francisco matchup.
Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...
by woodsmeister on Aug 13, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
or a porn name
"...leading the league in most offensive categories. Including nose hairs."
by sarcasmdave on Aug 13, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And THAT’S how you know the game thread has emptied out.
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who’s putting on a goddamn clinic, by the way.
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hitting the road.
LGT.
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In Cliff we trust.
by vbc3 on Aug 13, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, what an afwul pitch there.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
balls.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
She’s got the world’s most popular tramp stamp at the moment.
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I concur.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How’d we ever win 1?
Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...
by woodsmeister on Aug 13, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess so but I can’t remember the game now
by palcal on Aug 13, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Garko, you really WERE a catcher once. Nice hose.
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Marte, Gutz, and DD have 3 of the Indians 4 hits tonight.
by palcal on Aug 13, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let’s Go Tribe: Big Picture and the Looch!
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We have a base open with two outs. Walk Markakis.
Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...
by woodsmeister on Aug 13, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WHY THE F DID YOU DO THAT??
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FIRE WEDGE DAMMIT—EVERY MANAGER BUT HIM KNOWS TO IBB MARKAKIS THERE.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 13, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We just got beat by the one guy on this team we couldn’t let beat us.
Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...
by woodsmeister on Aug 13, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
7/11 wasn’t good enough. wedge needed to see 8/12.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 13, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was all Donnelly. He shook off Shoppach at least twice.
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
who gets the blame here. once roberts stole 2nd, it’s obvious he should have been walked. Is that Wedge’s call? If so, f#@$ Wedge
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
aren’t IBB’s always the manager’s call?
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 13, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would think so. i hope he told Donnelly on that mound visit…”sorry. That wasn’t very Casey Blake of me.”
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
let’s get this over with, we have the crucial USA-Netherlands game coming up
by palcal on Aug 13, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
whatever.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 13, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and welcome to the 2008 bullpen Brandon Donnelly
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brandon! You passed the initiation! You’re on the team!
Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...
by woodsmeister on Aug 13, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think we want him back next year.
by palcal on Aug 13, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree, but: Donnelly threw the goddamn pitch. It was the pitch he decided to throw over his catcher’s objection. It was both the wrong pitch, and poorly delivered.
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Live swimming at the Olympics.
Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...
by woodsmeister on Aug 13, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Will Wedge say that Guthrie was very good or that the Indians approach sucked?
by palcal on Aug 13, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...
by woodsmeister on Aug 13, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2008 Indians bullpen secret handshake:
sigh, lower your head, and toss your glove on the bench (while your teammates avoid you)
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fantastic.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 13, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
awful.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
more than 4 1/2 years since the last time the Indians did not strike out an opponent
by palcal on Aug 13, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
is it your goal when you wake up in the morning to find the most depressing stat you can?
by Nat on Aug 13, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
These relievers are like Storm Troopers now. They only exist to miss wildly and die.
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
perfect.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grady on pace for 37/37, by the way, all.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 13, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nope.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 13, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bhase iht
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 13, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“And here we have a comparison of all the closers in this ASG… K-Rod, Rivera, Papelbon… (no Sherrill included)”
< /FOX>
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 13, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
inspired.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 13, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was gonna say…Pang was real quick off the blocks there
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If you were a Free Agent Pitcher, HOW IN THE WORLD do you not want to go to the NL?
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you’re CC, you’ve GOT to be thinking HOF at this point, right?
Doesn’t he have 120 wins or something?
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
112. I think you can’t even think about the HOF until you’ve had 10 very solid years, most of which you were in the conversation for best “__” in the league. CC’s in his 8th season, and has been very good in 4 of those.
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, I can give you that, but he is only 28.
His most Similar by Age has Maddux, Lefty Gomez and Eck on there (all above 920)
Plus, he’s picking where he can spend the next five or so seasons. He’s just dominated the NL to the point of absurdity!
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CC is 27 right? He has some great years ahead of him. If I remember right, he is the only guy left in the discussion for 300 wins at this point? I realize it is nearly impossible, but he would be about the only guy with a shot.
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s 27 in baseball age, 28 in real life.
I guess I’m not saying he’s a HOFer, I’m just saying that if I were CC, it would enter into my decision for my next contract.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 13, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are we all sticking around for olympic baseball?
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i’ve heard it is broadcast online, but can’t confirm
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sticking around until I am done with work, which should be in about 20 minutes
by Fios on Aug 13, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
One would think industrialized countries have an advantage in swimming. Can’t confirm this though.
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
traditionally…US, Australia, Germany. So yes.
by APV on Aug 13, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Industrialization hasn’t done anything for MY swimming, that’s for god damn sure. I have one stroke: “The Harpooned Walrus.”
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the extent of my swimming usually involves a lifejacket with a cooler floating nearby
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I long ago resolved that if I’m ever in a life-threatening situation in open water, I’m giving myself up to the sharks and encouraging everybody else to swim for it. I’d rather the headline be “Ohio Man Bravely Surrenders Himself To Save His Friends” than “Ohio Man Eaten While Evading Sharks Poorly.”
by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The way I see it, if a shark gets between me and my cooler, he has bigger problems than I do. (Seriously though, I don’t swim in the ocean)
by bewwolv on Aug 13, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s amazing to me that anyone can be fast swimming backward
by Fios on Aug 13, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the USA – Netherlands game is starting on nbcolympics.com now
Eugene Kingsale in CF
by palcal on Aug 13, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ve posted a game thread for USA vs. Netherlands.
by Ryan on Aug 13, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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