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Game Thread: August 19, 2008

Kansas City Royals @ Cleveland Indians


Kansas City at Cleveland, 7:05 PM (STO)

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Why is David [censored] Dellucci batting? and in the three hole?

There, now that I have complained .. he will go 2 for 4 with an rbi.

by Toxicadam on Aug 19, 2008 7:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

from the PD today:

“But lately, Dellucci has had one of the team’s hottest bats. Hitting .441 (15-of-34) with three homers this month, the left-hander has lifted his average to a respectable .253 — a 30-point improvement from a month ago.”

not saying I agree with it, just saying…

by oaksterdam on Aug 19, 2008 7:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ok, stats and facts. You win this time.

::shakes fist::

by Toxicadam on Aug 19, 2008 7:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Because he’s HOT-he’s 15 for his last 34 (.441) and 25 for his last 72 (.347). And probably because he’s got $4 million left on his contract.

Or maybe because Sal Fasano thinks he’s handsome. I don’t know, man.

"I think people should be allowed to do anything they want. We haven't tried that for a while. Maybe this time it'll work." -George Carlin

by RD74 on Aug 19, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

f’in mlb audio ain’t working

again

by oaksterdam on Aug 19, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this one’s a real box office matchup, huh?

by APV on Aug 19, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I still have tickets to the Sept 15th make up game against the Royals. Whooooo!

by Toxicadam on Aug 19, 2008 7:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey, Grady pulled the ball.

by Toxicadam on Aug 19, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Flyout to deep right for Victor in his first AB in Buffalo, for what it’s worth.

by JRontherim on Aug 19, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are Hafner and Vmart hitting 3rd and 4th for the Bisons now?

by obobcatu on Aug 19, 2008 7:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, Aubrey is DHing in the 4th today, oddly. I’d think Hafner will get at least one AB today, though. Barfield is also sitting today. I imagine he’d get in sometime today too.

sorry, forgot to reply the first time.

by JRontherim on Aug 19, 2008 7:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Quite a rivalry we’ve got this season.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, Aubrey is DHing in the 4th today, oddly. I’d think Hafner will get at least one AB today, though. Barfield is also sitting today. I imagine he’d get in sometime today too.

by JRontherim on Aug 19, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jensen Lewis. That is all.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wicked.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anyone know anything about TVs? I’m looking at getting a bigass flat panel and have some questions.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I also would like to add that, unfortunately, I am not a physics professor.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 7:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

haha, how creepazoid is that guy

by joeee on Aug 19, 2008 8:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just got one…what questions do you have?

by APV on Aug 19, 2008 8:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So is this Hochevar guy “THE TRUTH” or not? He doesn’t look that intimidating. How old is he?

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Choo says no, Hochevar is not “THE TRUTH”.

by obobcatu on Aug 19, 2008 7:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice poke, Choooo.

by Toxicadam on Aug 19, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

MAGIC HELMET!!

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by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Garko Hates Buffalo!!

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by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hahah .. Garko went from 1st to home. Has to be a first.

by Toxicadam on Aug 19, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was at the game last night and I was stunned at how apathetic Guillen was in regard to getting the ball on this play. I think he wanted it to stop before he picked it up.

Proud supporter of the Cleveland.

by fwembt on Aug 20, 2008 11:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HA! Garko is SO FAST!

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

did you feel that earthquake?

that was garko going 1st to home on a double

by oaksterdam on Aug 19, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

See Skinner. SEE!!? SEE?!?! HOW HARD IS THAT?!

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He waved Garko but not Lofton. Gambler indeed.

by obobcatu on Aug 19, 2008 7:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ohhh Marte. Another weak popup?

by Toxicadam on Aug 19, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Woe is M[art]e

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 7:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Droobs = Royal killer.

by Toxicadam on Aug 19, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the old droobs is back!

by oaksterdam on Aug 19, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My Astrocab mancrush… continues.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice inning.

Didn’t Royals Review used to only get like 30 comments per game last year? I logged over there this morning and they actually had overflow game threads!

by Toxicadam on Aug 19, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Reyes is just so good

< / s>

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, at least we won’t need to find a replacement for Paul Byrd in the off-season.

by Toxicadam on Aug 19, 2008 7:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and, just like byrd, he has playoff experience!!

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 7:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I HATE WALKS

(okay, this guy is NOT Paul Byrd)

by Toxicadam on Aug 19, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He’s not Byrd but he IS Carmona.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 7:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Showcase!

((am I doing it right?))

by Toxicadam on Aug 19, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Give that ball a good PLTBNin’, Jhonny. I want to see some flippin’ offense.

by fleerdon on Aug 19, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and/or swing at a pitch in the opposite batter’s box. Good gracious.

by fleerdon on Aug 19, 2008 8:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ahh, good. Choo. The meat of the lineup.

by fleerdon on Aug 19, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This guy even wears his uniform like Byrd. Whatever.

by obobcatu on Aug 19, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

…and Wedge meekly retreats back to the dugout.

by obobcatu on Aug 19, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It doesn’t seem like Reyes is hitting his spots consistently, but there’s a lot of action on the ball. The arm is live, I’ll give him that.

by fleerdon on Aug 19, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Victor walks in his 2nd AB. Aubrey follows with a HR.

by JRontherim on Aug 19, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ok, Dellucci has become good. I got that. But now Garko? 2008 is the bizarro season.

by obobcatu on Aug 19, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This has been a fun spring training, but I can’t wait to see the A-squad in action.

by fleerdon on Aug 19, 2008 8:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Blake is gone, Garko can show his true grit now.

by JRontherim on Aug 19, 2008 8:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I mean, until tonight, had pretty much forgotten that Luke Hochevar exists.

by fleerdon on Aug 19, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ummm, OK?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What the…

“Let’s send Marte.”
“I think that’s a horrible idea, Hochevar’s struggling, and also, Andy couldn’t steal yesterday’s newspaper from a hotel coffee table.”
“I’m gonna send Marte.”
“Again, off the top of my head, I give that plan a zero to two percent chance of success, success defined as you keeping your job.”
/tugs ear: “Okay, steal’s on.”

by fleerdon on Aug 19, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   1 recs

So, is Gutierrez our starting RF next April?

by mrich on Aug 19, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’ll be honest, man. I’m casually giving up hope for 2009 while secretly holding out for “pleasantly surprised.”

by fleerdon on Aug 19, 2008 8:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Same here, I guess. I don’t really expect much out of next year’s team. But I think it’s still a legit question — I just don’t see how we can carry a RF who’s OPSing 645, but I also don’t really see a replacement on the horizon.

Unless LaPorta starts the year in LF and Choo is our starting RF? Could happen.

by mrich on Aug 19, 2008 8:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Looch beards his way to an E-3. nicely done.

by mrich on Aug 19, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sac Fly for Victor in his 3rd AB.

by JRontherim on Aug 19, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is it just me or does Donnelly’s delivery look really rushed?

by mrich on Aug 19, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Idiot.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe he though Dellucci was in left.

by Ryan on Aug 19, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Donnelly, you’re officially an Indian.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lolgerman.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Donnelly needs to bring back the goggles.

by obobcatu on Aug 19, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hey gte, if you’re around, I just bought a big flat-screen two weeks ago and might be able to answer some of your questions

by APV on Aug 19, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and I just sat back down, I am now compiling. I hope you’re a physics professor.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 9:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ok, first off, I sit 12’ from my TV and I’m hoping that a 52" will work.
Do I need 120mhz refresh hotness?
LCD or Plasma? I don’t have a light issue in the room.
I’d like to be around $2k.
If it says 1920×1280, can I actually connect a computer to that and it look good?
Does HDMI spy on me?
How do I get the Indians in HD in Atlanta GA?

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 9:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, and I’m looking at this one.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 9:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that is Consumer Reports top-rated television

by APV on Aug 19, 2008 9:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

here’s what they say:

CR’s Take
This 52-inch 1080p model from Samsung is one of the best TVs we’ve ever tested. It has excellent picture quality across the board, and was one of the few tested models with excellent sound.

Highs
Excellent picture quality across the board, with top-notch detail that makes the most of HD programming. Has very accurate colors and better than average black levels. Contrast was very good, giving images depth and dimension. Excellent reproduction of scenes with subtly shaded light-to-dark areas. Excellent film-mode operation effectively eliminates jagged edges—“jaggies”— on movie content. Has 120Hz technology that effectively reduces—but does not eliminate—motion blur. The remote control is very easy to use; its backlit buttons make them easy to see in the dark. On-screen menu is very easy to navigate.

Lows
Viewing angle was somewhat limited, so the picture lost some color, contrast, or brightness as we moved away from the center of the screen. Touch-sensitive controls on console are poorly labeled and difficult to read.

by APV on Aug 19, 2008 9:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was told that Samsung is coming out with the new models on the 8th, so we’ll see if the price comes down. I think that’s the one that I’m going to pull the trigger on.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 9:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that’s a great TV. it’s expensive, but it’s probably a good price given what you are getting (free shipping is nice, too)

by APV on Aug 19, 2008 9:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What’s the range? I thought it was kinda in the middle. I’m not a videophile by any stretch, but I saw a side-by-side of the 120hz refresh at Best Buy and think I need that.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 9:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the prices seem to vary a lot between models and sizes and depending on which ones are on sale. I was looking for a smaller tv and found a 40" Samsung with a fantastic picture. I ended up going with a 47" LG that still had a great picture, but not quite as great, but for just $70 more.

by APV on Aug 19, 2008 9:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have a 40" Samsung and it is freaking awesome. The picture on it is just fantastic — every bit as good as the Sonys IMO — and it was pretty affordable. I think Samsung pretty much always has the best price/performance ratio.

by mrich on Aug 19, 2008 9:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think I’m sold.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 9:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i have a 52" Samsung with slightly less than the 120hz refresh…and it is quite dope. highly recommend.

by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 19, 2008 9:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Samsung’s are very good

by APV on Aug 19, 2008 9:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can only answer some of these questions.

I sit about 10’ and have a 47" which is great. I would think 52" would be fine for you (if you’re picking the TV up at the store, bring a BIG car. The box will be huge.

Yes, I would go with the 120mhz.

If light isn’t an issue, I’d lean towards plasma, but compare costs and picture quality of specific models to choose which you’d prefer. I think the difference between the two, especially on newer models, isn’t that great.

I think it will be fine when you hook up a computer.

I don’t know about the HDMI quesiton.

I’d say MLB extra innings for the last one, but I don’t know if they broadcast in HD.

Where do you live in Atlanta? I spent 4 years there in college (Emory).

by APV on Aug 19, 2008 9:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I live on Juniper Street around 5th. Midtown area.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 9:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

professor – yes. physics professor – no.

by APV on Aug 19, 2008 9:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

RBI single for Victor in his 4th AB. Pinch run for after.

by JRontherim on Aug 19, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Call for a bunt. Just do it.

by joeee on Aug 19, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I see Scott Lewis is settling back to his usual in his second Buffalo start

by APV on Aug 19, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Underpants is getting way ahead of himself with this jacket talk

by joeee on Aug 19, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Marte double

by joeee on Aug 19, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YAY

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Marte <3’s 3-1 counts

by joeee on Aug 19, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lets see if astrocab can ferry the kids home as his name promises

by joeee on Aug 19, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

terrible reference to astrovans

by joeee on Aug 19, 2008 9:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

GRADYBOMB

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

28/30

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

z

I LOVE GRADY

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was set on a tee.

by Ryan on Aug 19, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nice lead story

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Does anyone else think Choo looks funny without his helmut/hat on?

by joeee on Aug 19, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m conflicted. On one hand thank fucking christ Grady finally hit another dinger, but I was kind of hoping to see Stomp tonight. I think the Lewis-for-closer movement might be the most interesting thing this season so far for me.

by ahowie on Aug 19, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ugh…it’s been such a boring and abysmal season.

by obobcatu on Aug 19, 2008 9:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OK, four run lead, three innings to go.

Can Perez pitch three?

by Ryan on Aug 19, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how about:
Perez 2 IP, 1 R, 0 ER
Lewis 1 IP, 0R, S

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 9:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gutz was invited to the barbeque

by joeee on Aug 19, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Grady’s pace: 37/40

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

THAT’S NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 9:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

It’s what I do.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 9:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kip Wells? Might he be very rusty?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m sure Sal Fasano will find out.

by JRontherim on Aug 19, 2008 11:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Asdrubal is married, by the way.

by joeee on Aug 19, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DOES THIS COMMENT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE PEARLS?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 9:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how the hell should I know?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 9:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anybody else watch CC throw 130 pitches in a 9-2, complete game win?

What a stupid, stupid thing to do, Mr. Manager.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I saw that earlier and gasped. CC is obviously very manly, but that is a very unfair thing to do to the guy when he is about to become a FA and get an uber-deal.

by obobcatu on Aug 19, 2008 9:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also stupid for the Brewers. I mean, they’re trying to win the World Series. They’re just killing his arm.

It was 9 to f-ing 2. This is simply not justifyable.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 9:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

7-2 after 6. 8-2 after 7. I agree. No reason CC should have been out there. That is just poor pitching management.

by obobcatu on Aug 19, 2008 9:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

but how else is he going to win the NL Cy Young AND MVP??

by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 19, 2008 9:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I voted for both in that ESPN poll. I am not afraid to admit it.

by obobcatu on Aug 19, 2008 9:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m not sure we’re gonna want CC by the time this season is over.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 9:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dude might need like 8 months off after this season/postseason..

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 9:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, but we thought he was burned out in the playoffs last season. Look at how well he turned out anyway. You could be right, but CC is such a horse that I wouldn’t be against signing him, even though we all know it’s impossible.

by obobcatu on Aug 19, 2008 9:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess Yost is rationalizing by thinking “this is pretty much our shot of winning the World Series, and my job is on the line.”

But still, that could come back to bite the Brewers down the stretch.

by Ryan on Aug 19, 2008 9:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Even that, I mean, there’s NOBODY that can protect a six run lead with two to play? I mean, even pitching the 8th is (I think he finished the 8th around 115 pitches) but the 9th… just stupid.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 9:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HIRE RISKE

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 9:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Perfect 2008 Indians bullpen name btw.

by obobcatu on Aug 19, 2008 9:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, on the Indians, that’s an open question. But on a team with a normal bullpen, he should have lone gone.

by Ryan on Aug 19, 2008 9:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Perez…so hot against the royals right now

by joeee on Aug 19, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So is that Hansel. lol

by obobcatu on Aug 19, 2008 9:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Perez is awesome.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wells it is! This dude better not shut us down.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kip Wells? This should be fun.

by Ryan on Aug 19, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wells actually pitched 12 days ago. THat’s much more recent than I expected.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Remember when the Pirates thought he was good? The Pirates are so funny. (Though less so recently.)

by obobcatu on Aug 19, 2008 9:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For a little while, didn’t they resist trading him?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 9:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, they thought he had potential or something. Who knows? They refused to trade Jack Wilson lol.

by obobcatu on Aug 19, 2008 9:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think Jack Wilson’s name should be changed to Jack Wilson lol.

by mrich on Aug 19, 2008 9:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have no idea what you mean. Please clarify.

by obobcatu on Aug 19, 2008 9:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gotta love those Kelly Shoppach fall-down strike outs

by ahowie on Aug 19, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

AT LEAST HE TRIES

< /peraltabashers>

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 9:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BUT IF HE CONNECTS IT WILL GO TO THE MOON!

by obobcatu on Aug 19, 2008 9:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’ll take the giant cat tower over a big swing every day.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 9:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

11 NOW! Right?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 9:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep, Tampa just won.

by Ryan on Aug 19, 2008 9:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought 10.5 was Tampa winning, and 11 was NY losing.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 9:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think both games went final within minutes of each other.

by Ryan on Aug 19, 2008 9:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, I bet Torre’s head is on the chopping bl — wait.

by fleerdon on Aug 19, 2008 9:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And a cry rises from the Bronx…“Enough &*%$in’ young pitching! Go buy some vets!”

by fleerdon on Aug 19, 2008 9:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Vets=CC for 2009. Cringe.

by obobcatu on Aug 19, 2008 9:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Andy Marte walks

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by APV on Aug 19, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2 walks and a double. I think he’s wrapping up his spring training.

by fleerdon on Aug 19, 2008 9:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is Rafael Betancourt’s opportunity to convince me that he’s a better pitcher, right now, than Tom Mastny.

by fleerdon on Aug 19, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rewind 4 months. Who could have predicted that would have been written, sans sarcasm, in any gamethread. 2008, baby, 2008!

by obobcatu on Aug 19, 2008 9:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

laptops I don’t want to buy: those that use as their selling point how great they are WHEN they crash.

laptops I want to buy: those that don’t crash

sorry Lenovo….

by APV on Aug 19, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Chinese have a lot to learn about baseball and marketing.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 9:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Like not hitting our savior, Matt LaPorta, in the freaking face. Assholes.

by obobcatu on Aug 19, 2008 9:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not yet, but you will be.

by fleerdon on Aug 19, 2008 9:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So far so good for mine.

by Ryan on Aug 19, 2008 9:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thinkpad is the only laptop I would ever consider buying. Remember, Lenovo was actually building them for a long time before IBM officially sold them the brand. They are fantastic machines.

by mrich on Aug 19, 2008 9:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac

You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person

by jakesinger777 on Aug 19, 2008 9:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

seriously, dude. Not sure I’d buy a mac desktop, but for laptops, its the way to go.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 9:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually, I’m using a 3 year old mac laptop, and its reliable as hell, but considering the price and software limitations, I’m not so sure what my next will be.

by joeee on Aug 19, 2008 9:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like my inspiron

by obobcatu on Aug 19, 2008 9:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That makes one of us

You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person

by jakesinger777 on Aug 19, 2008 9:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My 700m is an indestructible tank.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 9:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that’s what I’ve had for 2.5 years. about to get a new laptop, but I’m hoping this one stays alive for another year or two.

by APV on Aug 19, 2008 9:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just keep upgrading the components one at a time. When it started to get slow, I fired another GB of RAM in there and it was like a whole new laptop. I wired up a Bluetooth transmitter inside and boom! I can use the latest stuff.

I’m going to fire an SSD in this thing when they come down and bet I can use this thing for another couple years.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 9:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the only problem I’ve had is with the stupid power cord. I think the fan might have some issues too, because it gets a little too hot for my comfort.

by APV on Aug 19, 2008 9:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh I also got a new extended battery. 6 hours no problem.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 10:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I started with one of those. After two years I’m down to about 2.5-3 hours depending on what I’m doing.

by APV on Aug 19, 2008 10:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nobody look now, but Raffy Betancourt just threw a swing and miss fastball on the inside corner.

by fleerdon on Aug 19, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don’t tell Manning. It will give him bad dreams of Tampa Bay and Evan Longoria.

by obobcatu on Aug 19, 2008 9:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It would be impossible to tell Manning anything because he never shuts his yap.

by fleerdon on Aug 19, 2008 9:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The more he talks the less Underwood talks.

by Ryan on Aug 19, 2008 9:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What a choice to have to make.

Proud supporter of the Cleveland.

by fwembt on Aug 20, 2008 11:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Grady: “Sorry, Gload, that hit wasn’t crappy enough for me not to get to. Better luck next time, with the sucking.”

by fleerdon on Aug 19, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HIRE GOOD RAFFY

by Ryan on Aug 19, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Betancourt?? is that you?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One thing I love about playing the Royals is how they seem to tell this story about EVERY player:

"Yeah < insert name > was really a highly thought of guy from < insert organization > for a few years but he never really got (the opportunity/development/attention/reps) he needed to blossom into a major contributor, but now he’s with the Royals and hitting 220/315/400.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They had some good players at one time. Beltran, Dye, young Johnny Damon.

by obobcatu on Aug 19, 2008 9:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love perez and betancourt going consecutive innings without a baserunner.

by joeee on Aug 19, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Apparently all Raffy needed was a week off.

by FredOx on Aug 19, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gutz is kicking some ass right now.

by joeee on Aug 19, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’ll put his August OPS over 1.000. Dellucci, Garko, Gutz, even Betancourt. Maybe we should have de-gritted the clubhouse earlier.

by FredOx on Aug 19, 2008 9:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I told you that hombre was a drag, strutting around the locker room in his underwear and going up to young players and saying, “If you guys don’t stop swearing and playing dominos, I’m telling you know who.”

by odradek on Aug 19, 2008 10:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

awesome.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nice

who do we see for the ninth? Masa or Boojica?

by ahowie on Aug 19, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Has to be Lewis.

by Ryan on Aug 19, 2008 9:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, maybe they could get away with Masa now.

by Ryan on Aug 19, 2008 9:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ehhh, I still think Lewis. There will be plenty of games they are losing in the next two weeks for Masa to get some work in.

by fleerdon on Aug 19, 2008 9:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, but why even put ourselves in a position to accidentally ignite the powder keg. I’m for Jenny Lew.

by obobcatu on Aug 19, 2008 9:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this is unusual.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Finally Jhonny gets a hit

by ahowie on Aug 19, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would really liked to have seen a J. Peralta-J. Peralta matchup

by APV on Aug 19, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Meloan pitched a scoreless 8th for Buffalo with 2 Ks. I just like to type “Meloan”.

by FredOx on Aug 19, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Choo’s got some coal in his boilers tonight.

by fleerdon on Aug 19, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

UGH

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

F!

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOjica

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you’re no hot dog-eating champion, Masahide

by APV on Aug 19, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well at least Kobayashi still sucks. No reason to get too positive about the Tribe at the moment.

by ahowie on Aug 19, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that was more adventurous than it needed to be.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and not an ADVENTURE BLAAWWWWG

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 19, 2008 10:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This team is playing better.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

More like they are sucking less.

by FredOx on Aug 19, 2008 10:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ok sure.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 19, 2008 10:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They sort of had to. They weren’t as bad as they were playing after C.C. was traded. They aren’t the second- or third-worst team in the majors. Remember: they were in first place on May 15 when interleague play started. The Reds et al. sent the Tribe reeling for quite a while. Went 6-12 against NL, the worst AL record.

by odradek on Aug 19, 2008 10:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, they are a different team.

A better hitting team, for sure. Defensively and starting pitching has taken a nosedive. But the bullpen is doing better.

When you can hit (like May and June), it just magnifies how awful a bullpen is.

by Toxicadam on Aug 19, 2008 11:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Even Guillermo Mota can’t give up a run every inning. The bullpen—worse than 2006!—has to regress a bit toward major league averages.

by odradek on Aug 19, 2008 11:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How did Reyes look? I continue to hold out hope that he can be 5th starter material.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Aug 19, 2008 11:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This was probably the worst of Reyes’ three starts for the Tribe (statistically – I didn’t actually see any of the game on TV). He went 5 innings instead of 6, and walked three. Overall, he’s proving to be adequate 5th starter material, with a 2.60 ERA and 1.45 WHIP in 17.1 IP over the 3 starts. His K/BB ratio isn’t anything to write home about at 1.16.

What success he’s having seems to be driven by keeping the ball down more and decreasing the velocity on his fastball. Compare the average vertical break and velocity last night to his worst relief appearance (4/23/08 vs PIT, 3 ER on 4 H in 1 IP):

8/19/08 89.66 MPH Avg, 93.4 MPH Max, 5.76 Avg V-Break (69.6% strikes)
4/23/08 92.86 MPH Avg, 94.1 MPH Max, 8.23 Avg V-Break (62.5% strikes)

His other pitches are down as well, about an inch on the change and 2.25 on the curve. In each of his starts, he’s been keeping the fastball down more (8.23 in — 6.72 in — 5.76 in V-Break).

by FredOx on Aug 20, 2008 10:27 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

“How did Reyes look?”

He looked like a taller Joba Chamberlain with a fake tan. Same as always.

by Toxicadam on Aug 20, 2008 12:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Joba Justin Chamberlain

There, fixed.

And if you went up to a Yankee fan and said “Chamberlain has a fake tan”, I bet they’d get pissed at you.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 20, 2008 5:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

“No way, man, Justin has a real tan.”

by odradek on Aug 20, 2008 5:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Everyone knows that Justin is unable to tan with these inadequate UV rays put off by your meek human sun.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 5:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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