Kansas City Royals @ Cleveland Indians GameThread, Aug 20, 2008 7:05 PM EDT

Game Thread: August 20, 2008

by Ryan on Aug 20, 2008 6:30 PM EDT in Game Threads Comment 200 comments

Kansas City Royals @ Cleveland Indians

Kansas City at Cleveland, 7:05 PM (STO)

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Zach Johnson Alert!

Hopefully the boys will pick the ball up for him this game.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 6:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

vs. Meche:

Garko: 7-16
Jhonny: 11-23
Astrocab: 3-9
Looch: 6-21
Grady: 6-25
Gutz: 1-7
Francisco: 0-4

by oaksterdam on Aug 20, 2008 6:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Will the Garko Express continue to plow through town?

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 7:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I just watched this movie “Our Brand is Crisis” about the 2002 Bolivian elections.

Holy ish. Wow.

by afh4 on Aug 20, 2008 7:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

what about it? typical developing nation dominated by millitary junta type of thing?

"I think people should be allowed to do anything they want. We haven't tried that for a while. Maybe this time it'll work." -George Carlin

by RD74 on Aug 20, 2008 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

if yer into that kind of thing, the new yorker has a very good article about burma in this week’s mag:
link

by oaksterdam on Aug 20, 2008 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You mean Myanmar?

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i’m not willing to call it that. the military rulers deserve evisceration; i will not validate their new name for the country.

by oaksterdam on Aug 20, 2008 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah I don’t think you can really call it by that name unless you accept the millitary dictatorship.

"I think people should be allowed to do anything they want. We haven't tried that for a while. Maybe this time it'll work." -George Carlin

by RD74 on Aug 20, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Seinfeld line. Nevermind.

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It will always be Burma to me…

by Bernie19Kosar on Aug 20, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

thank you

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What is that, the discount pharmacy?

by cheech99 on Aug 20, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s actually a movie about a big DC firm, fronted by James Carville, and how they won the election for the man who was promptly driven from the country within 8 months of election.

It raises real questions about the role of foreign political advisors. It’s also just a fascinatingly intimate portrait of a campaign in a doomed country.

by afh4 on Aug 20, 2008 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cool. Thanks for the rec. I’ll have to netflick it.

"I think people should be allowed to do anything they want. We haven't tried that for a while. Maybe this time it'll work." -George Carlin

by RD74 on Aug 20, 2008 7:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

jackson needs to get a new pic for gamecast/gameday. that’s awful. he looks like a young (and poorly bearded) riske.

by oaksterdam on Aug 20, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

bases loaded.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 20, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

how did they get a single on a “pop up to second baseman Asdrubal Cabrera”?

by APV on Aug 20, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

it was a grounder past jackson

by oaksterdam on Aug 20, 2008 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think Zack Jackson and Anthony Reyes still suck. I’m ignoring the numbers.

by afh4 on Aug 20, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That could have been worse…or better

by APV on Aug 20, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

good job of jackson to get out of that with only 1 run. induced 3 dp-possible ground balls. shame the first 2 got thru.

by oaksterdam on Aug 20, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

grady goes?

by oaksterdam on Aug 20, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

hammy saying buck is 4-49 in throwing out stealers

by oaksterdam on Aug 20, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

thanks gutz. sheesh.

by oaksterdam on Aug 20, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

YHES

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 20, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

make em pay JP

"I think people should be allowed to do anything they want. We haven't tried that for a while. Maybe this time it'll work." -George Carlin

by RD74 on Aug 20, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hahah. JP.

by afh4 on Aug 20, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hhomer!

by oaksterdam on Aug 20, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

JHONNY!!!

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Aug 20, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

CHAREER YHEAR IS 4 OHMERS AHWAY

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 20, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

fhunny!

by oaksterdam on Aug 20, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

H is a funny letter.

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s easy to get addicted to the H when Jhonny is providing hits like those

by APV on Aug 20, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jhonny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play

by new zealand tribe fan on Aug 20, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Things I wish:

When it said “fastball” for one of Jackson’s pitches…the first digit of the number accompanying it did not begin with an “8”

by APV on Aug 20, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He must have heard you:

“(90/fastball)”

Wedge: [letting go of Casey's hand] I'll never let go, Casey. I promise.

by cclemens31 on Aug 20, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

reached back for a little something extra

by oaksterdam on Aug 20, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You know, for the lack of production our DH spot has produced this year, hey, at least we’re not DHing Miguel Olivo.

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

SHTRONG AHRM

this is fhun

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Khelly… oh, wait.

by Fundamentals on Aug 20, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Shoppach is so strong.

by afh4 on Aug 20, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Shoppach is one hell of a backup catcher.

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Shopblast, yay.

by FredOx on Aug 20, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

ol’ mr. 2 outcomes: K or tater

by oaksterdam on Aug 20, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah Kelly

One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play

by new zealand tribe fan on Aug 20, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Marte….. * sigh *

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

the boxscore isn’t really working great for me for some reason, but, bad Laff.

by ASP on Aug 20, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

btw, it’s 3-0 not 6-3

by FredOx on Aug 20, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

well…can’t say Zach is uncomfortable pitching with baserunners on

by APV on Aug 20, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He’s used to it.

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

5 base runners in 3 innings and yet he’s still somehow managed to use only 39 pitches

by APV on Aug 20, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

TODD LINDEN HOMERUN!

by afh4 on Aug 20, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

he’s also been hot in July/August

by APV on Aug 20, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Linden is an IronPig killer, for whatever that is worth.

by FredOx on Aug 20, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

An IronPig’s natural enemy is the BattleCow.

by afh4 on Aug 20, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

I always though IronPigs were eternally matched up against CurlyChickens

by APV on Aug 20, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Who is Todd Linden?

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

first rule of Todd Linden…don’t talk about Todd Linden

by APV on Aug 20, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

A Bison.

by FredOx on Aug 20, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

not a battle cow?

by oaksterdam on Aug 20, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Heavy Fastball?

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He rubs mercury onto them from the brim of his cap. Bad for his long term health, most definitely. Good for his fastball, maybe.

by APV on Aug 20, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

FINALLY, we get someone on this roster who is willing to go to any length necessary to win. I’m looking RIGHT AT YOU, Mr. Non-Juiced Aaron Boone.

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

JD Martin, who has been pitching in Akron since I was in the 2nd grade, is also hot

by APV on Aug 20, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

you saying you’d hit it?

by oaksterdam on Aug 20, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

as hot as he is I’d certainly swing and miss at every chance

by APV on Aug 20, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

uh, yeah, i guess:

by oaksterdam on Aug 20, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Did I detect some scarcasm in that “Routine for Fransico in left” there?

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i hate you david dellucci…you and your arrogant 14,681 August OPS. you’re not fooling me…

by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 20, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I hate this physics professor SOOOO much

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow, still smoove

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

do we tell every pitcher who enters the organization, “so what we’d like you to do is learn this sinking fastball. great at inducing grounders…”

by APV on Aug 20, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

oooof

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

that almost Laporta’d him

by APV on Aug 20, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

did jackson just bean meier?

by oaksterdam on Aug 20, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

bleeding from the nose?!?

by oaksterdam on Aug 20, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

In the ol’ face. It deflected off the earflap.

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

so that isn’t a laporta, but it is a nix

by oaksterdam on Aug 20, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jackson. Sheesh.

by afh4 on Aug 20, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

no sense in giving into mitch maier…i like sending that message w/ 2 on and none out.

by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 20, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think this qualifies as Dark Comedy.

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

look, if you’re gonna be a royals center fielder named mitch, batting ninth, i think zach jackson has set the precedent that he’s coming inside on you. pretty simple.

(full disclosure: i didn’t realize it had hit him in the face when i posted)

by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 20, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jackson just isn’t very good. Next.

by ASP on Aug 20, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

FIRE 2008

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 20, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Karma. Shoot.

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

ouch

by APV on Aug 20, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

ASP, APV, gte619n, afh4, RD74… Lot of creative handles in this thread.

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I do love it when Gutz unleashes the fury.

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i wish someone would say that about me…, especially the ol’ lady :(

by oaksterdam on Aug 20, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Attention!

We have an out!!

That is all.

by oaksterdam on Aug 20, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Well that’s just f-ing awful.

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

So. Jackson sucks.

by afh4 on Aug 20, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

yep, its official

by oaksterdam on Aug 20, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That’s why Jackson was really the lowest-rated “prospect” in the Sabathia trade, and not Brantley/Green/whoever it is to be named later, as Jay and Ryan aptly pointed out when the trade was made.

That’s why I wasn’t overly thrilled when we got him – he’s an arm, but I’m not expecting much. I’m a little higher on Reyes, though he’s probably a long-shot too, but unlike Jackson, Reyes looks like a ML pitcher (most of the time, at least, unlike Jackson). There’s a chance Reyes could fit in; I’m not that optimistic on Jackson, though I hope he proves me wrong, but tonight was not one of those nights, unfortunately.

Just my 2 cents.

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Aug 20, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

To be fair to Jackson, really it was one bad pitch to Aviles that made the outing bad; otherwise, it’s probably a pretty solid outing. At this point, he’s been a bit more useful than I thought he’d be, though he still has to improve quite a bit to really stick, and I’d still give Reyes the edge at this point.

Just my 2 cents.

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Aug 20, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Completely agree. My expectations were so low, plus he seems to be running into some bad luck, that I’m not even mad.

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Uhh, thanks for the update. I was under the impression Jackson was the key piece.

by afh4 on Aug 20, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Someone angered the sarcastic meth-head.

Proud supporter of the Cleveland.

by fwembt on Aug 20, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That inning was simply not good.

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i’ll quote myself:

ol’ mr. 2 outcomes: K or tater

by oaksterdam on Aug 20, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

How about the All Whiff Team:

1B: Ryan Howard
LF: Adam Dunn
CF: Grady
2B: Richie Weeks
DH: Jack Cust

Who am I missing?

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Grady is not even in the top 10 in the AL in strikeouts. He seems to have improved at least in that respect.

by obobcatu on Aug 20, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So the recycled trash pecking order sits at:

1) A. Reyes
2) Z. Jackson
3) B. Bullington

Correct?

by APV on Aug 20, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Thus far, however, things can change at a MOMENTS notice.

I’d put Weaver on there as well.

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

do I have to put Weaver on the list?

4) J. Weaver

by APV on Aug 20, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Have you bothered to look at Weaver’s numbers in AAA? He’s trash. I’d rather have Halama as the #4 option on that list.

by Toxicadam on Aug 20, 2008 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i know it’s a bit stale, but doesn’t jason johnson have to have the honorary and all-time top spot on that list?

by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 20, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s understood.

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can we name this the “Chuck Nagy Memorial No Elbow” List

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think those three and Weaver – I’d probably give Reyes the highest chance of making it, along with maybe Weaver (for a short period as a #5 option). Jackson doesn’t look very impressive, and Bullington has equally bad outings at AAA (I think I would rather try Bullington in the bullpen again – he looked fairly solid there in a SSS when he first came over. It might help him to gain a bit more velocity on his fastball and perform well enough to possibly consider at the ML level, though it’s likely still a long-shot, but almost certainly better than what he is doing as a starter down at AAA right now).

Just my 2 cents.

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Aug 20, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lookin’ pretty flat tonight.

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hammy blind or hammy correct?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 20, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It was the right call.

by fleerdon on Aug 20, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ROBBED!!

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

er, maybe not.

Too bad, that looked awfully triple-y

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

D’ohhhh what the hell happened here. Last I heard we were up like 3-1.

--
In Cliff we trust.

by vbc3 on Aug 20, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Gentlemen, it’s Gil Meche. Relax. Stop swinging at shit.

by fleerdon on Aug 20, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

See that?!?! SEE THAT?!?! Jackson has poise.

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

We are just not a very good team.

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Does anybody use the 1.2M Mlb.tv level? How is it? Is it appreciably better than the 400k? Is it “HD”?

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Crush one, Garko.

Just cos you can.

--
In Cliff we trust.

by vbc3 on Aug 20, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Stephen Head has the HR hattrick for Akron tonight

by APV on Aug 20, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think Stephen Head might be a better prospect than Hodges.

I’m sort of serious.

by afh4 on Aug 20, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he’s got a better mustache

by APV on Aug 21, 2008 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Juan Rincon, it’s like we’ve almost given up.

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

What kind of baseball team gets more runs than hits before being set down 17 in a row?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 20, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Shaft!

Diiiig.

--
In Cliff we trust.

by vbc3 on Aug 20, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

An inconsistent team (especially offensively) that’s dealing with injuries and playing many young, relatively inexperienced players.

Just my 2 cents.

Here comes the Indians – go Shoppach and company! :-)

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Aug 20, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

(another stupid manager)

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 20, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

WHOA HEY KELLY ALRIGHT!!

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In Cliff we trust.

by vbc3 on Aug 20, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Kelly Hits Bombs.

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Aw fukkerzz … More PH for Marte.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 20, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

An article over at TheClevelandFan.com suggests that Marte’s plate discipline isn’t really the problem (just behind Marte’s) – it’s just Marte doesn’t hit that well. The guy who did so well in AAA seems to be gone – that’s the main reason why Wedge doesn’t seem to have confidence in him in tight situations.

Plus, Choo does have better plate discipline than Marte, that last swing notwithstanding.

Just my 2 cents.

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Aug 20, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I meant to say “(just behind Garko’s).”

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Aug 20, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

dude. It’s Steve Buffum. That’s as good as quoting your roommate.

by joeee on Aug 20, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thank you for mentioning that, but still, it’s an interesting theory, and I have to agree that Marte just doesn’t look skilled in hitting for average, something he never really did that well down at the Minors (i.e. never hit .300+ at any level).

At one time, we thought the young age was the main reason for that, but now, it may have been more indicative of an inability to hit for a high BA. Granted, it’s still a SSS, but Marte has gotten more regular playing time this year than he has since he’s been here, and he still looks inconsistent at the plate and not able to hit for a very high BA. That still is a concern, and likely the reason why Wedge will not allow him to hit in critical situations late in games.

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Aug 20, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Whereas, Gutierrez has shown an ability to hit in these situations, and he’s done it again, off a pretty good closer in Soria. :-)

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Aug 20, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dude hit .275 at age 21 – in 389 at bats. I really don’t know how batting average projects in the minors. My knee-jerk, obviously, is to not care too much about BA. But I can’t really give you a thoughtful response.

by joeee on Aug 20, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

haf 1-2 tonight with a 2b, 2 rbi and a bb

by joeee on Aug 20, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hopefully, Hafner can keep doing that up here – I’ll take a bunch of 2Bs, along with some HRs. That arguably would be better than what he was giving us late in 2007.

Just my 2 cents.

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Aug 20, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

BBs too would be good as well – be the “walk” machine of old. :-)

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Aug 20, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

arguably?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 20, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Some may quote the 24 HRs as being a decent season, but I think most are expecting more out of Hafner than what we got in 2007. That’s why I said “arguably,” but I think 99.9% would like more production out of him than we got from him in 2007.

Just my 2 cents.

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Aug 20, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

what I mean is that “haf 1-2 tonight with a 2b, 2 rbi and a bb” is not arguably better than 2007. It WOULD BE better.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 20, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

indiansfan is saying that those numbers in buffalo are preferring to haf’s ’07 numbers in cleveland, I believe.

by joeee on Aug 20, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

preferable*

by joeee on Aug 20, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hafner draws another walk. Meh, I want to see him get pitched to!

by joeee on Aug 20, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Meh. Lame.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 20, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I hate Bunts… but I’m okayish with that one.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Go figure… We’re educated and in our 20s… but 39% female?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 20, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

How in god’s name does that work?

by joeee on Aug 20, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have no clue. Someone on another site had a link to it so I put lgt in.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 20, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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by woodsmeister on Aug 21, 2008 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It must be Andrew’s sensitive demeanor.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

But the real question: What percentage of us prefer pistachios to peanuts? (In shell, of course)

by bewwolv on Aug 20, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

not me, but both are good.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 20, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sounds about right, but that’s pretty typical of the internet as a whole, isn’t it?

At a glance I don’t think these are even close to accurate for sites with small / medium sized traffic patterns.

I happen to know that another blog I visit gets just shy of 200,000 unique visitors a month, and it has received more than 50,000 or so a month for several years running by now, yet they only report a 5k count.

Somehow I believe they’re getting the demographics about right (the profiles of Royalsreview, UssMariner, LGT etc, are relatively consistent, as one would expect). I just don’t believe the traffic count.

by jhon on Aug 20, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Let’s Go Tribe!!!

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

GUTTTTTTTTTTTT

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 20, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

GUT

by bewwolv on Aug 20, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

GUTYZ!!!! KABOOOOOOOM!!!

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I was going to precict a Gutbomb. Good thing I didn’t jinx him.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 20, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think I kinda love the Royals.

LETS GO JENSEN

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by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

So when our injured get healthy, which position players do they replace on the roster?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 20, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Gonzalez for sure, but Looch, maybe??

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 20, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

who will be ready in the next 10 days?

by palcal on Aug 20, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m not saying it will be in the next 10 days.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 20, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ohh wait, good point.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 20, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gutz…. STOP BEING SUCH A TEASE.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

rec

by bewwolv on Aug 20, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

did you guys know that David Dellucci is single-handedly responsible for the weakness of the dollar over the last year? pretty interesting…

by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 20, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Michael Moore is in town to investigate it.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 20, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he also invaded georgia. fact.

by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 20, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Did he find Bigfoot? I know those other dopes tricked us.

by obobcatu on Aug 20, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

not sure about bigfoot…but he has personally raised global sea levels by an inch in the last 5 years. i just report it…

by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 20, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Soria sure looks awesome.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Garko is on fire. Good for him.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I liked it better when he sucked. Made the banish Garko, let VMart play 1b, and keep Shoppach as C argument much more palatable. I guess it’s a good problem to have.

by obobcatu on Aug 20, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Vmart to 2B, Droobs to SS and JH to 3B

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 20, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and Choo closes

by bewwolv on Aug 20, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and Bullington sets up for him.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 20, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

by obobcatu on Aug 20, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, Gutz

by APV on Aug 20, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Quite the pitching staff they have over there in Beantown.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 20, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

LETS GO JENSEN.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Well, that was an interesting swing.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 20, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That was, without a doubt, the best drive home I’ve had in a while.

Reminded me of last year. :)

--
In Cliff we trust.

by vbc3 on Aug 20, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

2009!!

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 20, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Its at times like this I don’t care if Gutz hits at all

by bewwolv on Aug 20, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

--
In Cliff we trust.

by vbc3 on Aug 20, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I could be way off, but the vibe seems to be that we’ll try at least to make one big Type A free agent spash.. a la Fuentes or… frankly I don’t know who else it might be, maybe a third baseman. But Lewis could be the equalizer in terms of a closer signing. He’s got that change up just falling off the table away from left-handed hitters.

by cheech99 on Aug 20, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Been burned before by relievers who looked good for short stretches: Mastny, Fernando Cabrera, and even Mr. Lewis himself. But the velocity seems back. He seems a little out of control emotionally still, but maybe, finally,

by odradek on Aug 20, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just figure they have one bullet, as far as one major free agent signing (assuming we can actually coax someone to come here that we REALLY want). If it’s not a closer, and admittedly, I’m leery of using our one bullet for a closer, then who else could we really use. I honestly don’t know… I feel like we could use a free agent third baseman, but I still want to see what Marte can do over the last 6 weeks.

by cheech99 on Aug 20, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs