Most depressing sentence of the day?
Jensen Lewis pitched the ninth for his fourth consecutive save. It's the most consecutive saves by a Tribe reliever this year.
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Dag. So the previous mark was—is my math right here—three, right? 3?
by jhon on Aug 21, 2008 11:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
By JoeBo? I can’t think of anyone else who it could possibly be.
by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 21, 2008 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JoeBo and, obviously, Jensen were the two.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Aug 21, 2008 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This one was pretty good:
Jhonny Peralta: “I like track and field. I liked watching Usain Bolt win the 100 and 200 meters. That’s how I think I look in my mind when I’m stealing a base.”
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Aug 21, 2008 11:14 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
Maybe the last few meters of the 100, but not the first 90.
by FredOx on Aug 21, 2008 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Byrd, Lee, and now Peralta have contributed some excellent quotes in the last couple weeks. Even now that Espinoza’s bubble gum hats, Nixon’s pies, Brossards accoustic guitar and Blake vs. Hafner ironic leadership clashes are things of the past, we still have a funny team.
by jhon on Aug 21, 2008 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, Hoynsie!: Your first paragraph makes no sense:
Franklin Gutierrez was waiting all season for this at-bat. All-Star closer Joakim Soria spent the same amount of time trying to avoid them.
Huh???
How much of a look will Jen-Lew get as CL next spring?
by JulioBernazard on Aug 21, 2008 11:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Joakim Soria has been trying all season to avoid a righty-righty matchup against a player who has struggled against righties. Or, erm, um…
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Aug 21, 2008 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and to answer your question, a decent shot assuming we don’t sign K-Rod. Signing Fuentes could complicate things.
If we don’t sign anyone I don’t think it will matter since Jon “my middle name begs for some kind of bank nickname” Meloan will step in as closer by 2010. That’s my guy. /Pine.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Aug 21, 2008 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um, his last name begs for the nickname. Facepalm.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Aug 21, 2008 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m guessing we won’t be able to sign K-Rod. He’s gonna want some major cheeze.
by JulioBernazard on Aug 21, 2008 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No no, I don’t think it’s an option either. My point is barring anything so black and white as getting someone like that for the bullpen, Jensen will get a shot.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Aug 21, 2008 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends how he does down the stretch.
The real test of a closer, beyond sheer effectiveness, is the ability to come in the day after a blown save and be just as confident as the day before the blown save.
by Jay on Aug 21, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
… and now it’s the wrong spelling of the wrong word.
Yes, we are really getting to the bottom of this one.
by Jay on Aug 21, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s also known as being “New Jersey Tough”
by emd2k3 on Aug 22, 2008 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn’t New Jersey Tough mean talking tough and then running when it comes time to do something about it? Kind of like Dutch courage?
by odradek on Aug 23, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The tribe has at least 4 saves on the season?!
by oxforddave on Aug 21, 2008 11:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
JoeBo had six. His stretch of three in a row came on 5/24 (Texas), 5/30 (KC) and 6/6 (Detroit). That was in the midst of his Good Period in which he came back from the DL and threw 5 straight scoreless innings (albeit with one hit in four of them). Alas, good times cannot last.
by FredOx on Aug 21, 2008 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a depressing statement looking backwards, but why do that? Isn’t this an encouraging statement looking forward.
by APV on Aug 21, 2008 11:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
True. I hope that’s the most depressing thing I hear today.
by DixonCayne on Aug 21, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clearly a ‘glass half full’ sort of attitude.
(Personally, I look at the glass as about to fall on the floor, shatter, and ruin the rug.)
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.
by Harry Doyle on Aug 21, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Depressing statement of the day part 2-
Gil Meche has retired 17 in a row.
Guess it doesn’t matter since we won in dramatic fashion with home runs by 2 guys that have had their ups and downs. Sometimes, you just need a strong finish to the season to forget a horribly disappointing first half. Let’s just hope the Twins or the Pale Hose don’t make it to the World Series.
Baseball fans are junkies, and their heroin is the statistic. - Robert S. Wieder
by jerseywahoo on Aug 21, 2008 12:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Strangely enough I’m OK with the Twins.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Aug 21, 2008 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too, but why? The shraed non-reliance on big money free agents?
by CBusSteve on Aug 21, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate them because they always seem to overachieve when on paper I look at them and think they suck. I hate the Twins because they have, in my opinion, the worst ballpark in baseball. I also hate them because of Doug Mientkiewicz in the late 90’s and some of his annoying quotes.
by Roger Dorn on Aug 21, 2008 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hate them because they’re built to play on concrete. I hate them because they bunt, and brag about their bunting. I hate them because they have an apparently inexhaustible supply of guys who throw 98 and refuse to trade any of them for offense even in the face of overwhelming need. I hate them because they think they’re better than us — not this season, but period. I hate them because they’re pretty boys. I hate them because THREE. STRAIGHT. BUNTS.
It’s hard to top the ChiSox for irritating fans — though living nearer to Detroit than most of you, I can tell you Tigers fans are miiiiighty cocky — but I enjoy the Kenny / Ozzie saga from a distance. The Sox are fun-hate for me. But the Twins, as an organization, have no redeeming qualities that I’ve come across. It’s a black hole of baseball entertainment, where all that is good and holy about sunshine and baseball and home runs is sucked agonizingly away.
God, I hate the Twins.
by fleerdon on Aug 22, 2008 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Not that I don’t hate the Twins, but in fairness, they did trade Garza for Delmon Young, and they got a nice little upgrade at shortstop in the bargain.
by Jay on Aug 22, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a start. Next, they can take full swings at the baseball like grown men.
by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sounds like a National Leaguer complaining that a junkballer isn’t man enough to throw a 3-1 fastball. Complaining as he goes back to the dugout after grounding out.
by odradek on Aug 23, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard someone on the radio complain that when Young struggled in the first half, the Twins regretted trading Garza and were telling other teams there was no way they would trade any more pitching, ever.
by odradek on Aug 23, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I just hate the White Sox so damn much.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Aug 21, 2008 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Twins look downright cuddly next to most of the rest of the American League. i used to hate the Twins because for a while it seemed like CC hated them. but that was before i realized how much i hate all the other teams.
by still ill on Aug 21, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
*because for a while it seemed like CC hated them.
by still ill on Aug 21, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t see what you’re correcting…
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Aug 22, 2008 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoa. weird. i think i imagined my own typo.
by still ill on Aug 22, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My order of dislike in the AL Central (from most to least) goes:
1a) White Sox
1b) Twins
3) Detroit
4) KC
by APV on Aug 21, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I had ten hate points for the AL Central, I would distribute them like this:
Chicago: 4, Minnesota 3, Detroit 3, KC 0.
by odradek on Aug 21, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
KC = 0 ?
You’re just a fair-weather hater, that’s all.
by Jay on Aug 21, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t hate on KC too much just because I love Kauffman. Any place where you can get infield box seats for half the face value, a Boulevard Wheat, and Gates BBQ is cool in my book. Besides, the park is a great place to watch a game.
by ClarkM on Aug 22, 2008 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the city. After Buddy Bell left, and with Grudzelaniak hurt, and Sweeney and Ibanez gone, they’re a pretty good patsy team. I like Teahen and Soria and Greinke and Butler and Gordon. I even like Esteban German—he grounds out at the most opportune moments. Buck seems to have reverted to form, i.e. he never gets a hit, as he should.
If I had eleven hate points, I would assign one to KC, just for Jimmy Gobble’s name.
by odradek on Aug 23, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are just not even compelling enough to have any feelings toward.
Proud supporter of the Cleveland.
by fwembt on Aug 23, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll go 4,3,2,1 with Detroit getting the 3.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Aug 21, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I don’t see how Detroit doesn’t get second place in the hate meter.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Aug 22, 2008 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Detroit is a real baseball town with a real stadium and real fans.
by Jay on Aug 22, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we need to organize a hate poll on here. Like ESPN does with the “rank these ten great sports feats” or whatever, and aggregate the results to find out who the most hated teams are at LGT.
Burn on, big river, burn on...
by Turkmenbashi on Aug 22, 2008 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Closely pursued by the Chicago White Sox.
by peter m on Aug 22, 2008 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I passionately hate both of those teams, but seriously. One non-playoff season and we forgive the Yanks for everything?
by CBusSteve on Aug 22, 2008 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yanks are probably my #2, just slightly ahead of the White Sox and Twins. I also hate the A’s and the Angels.
by APV on Aug 22, 2008 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I hate the Red Sox more now, just because the fair-weather fans appear to have shifted their completely arbitrary allegiance to Boston, at least around here. That or there is an immense Massachusetts expatriate community in Richmond of which I was heretofore blissfully unaware.
by FredOx on Aug 22, 2008 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw a friend of mine that I hadn’t seen in quite some time at the bar last night. He was wearing a Red Sox (faded) cap. “I didn’t know you were a fan,” I said in as seething a voice as I could muster. He said he wasn’t until they got good. Just came right out and said it.
Oh boy.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Aug 22, 2008 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seeing things like that really kills old friends, doesn’t it?
by Gradyforpresident on Aug 22, 2008 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Red Sox = HATE HATE HATE WITH A BURNING HOT HEAT
by mrich on Aug 22, 2008 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I complete agree. At least the Yankees KNOW they’re the richest, we-will-sign-your-star-player-in-free-agency team out there. Boston fans still have this “woe is us” demeanor like I should feel sorry for them.
jerks.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 22, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
many i know think that they aren’t that bad and just try to parley anti-yankee sentiment into neutral feelings towards the red sox but i hate them all anyway
by Gradyforpresident on Aug 22, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh. Well, they are that bad.
You may need to remind them that they’re still paying off that $51 million posting fee, and they still owe $5 million for Manny and $1 million for Tavarez, from now until the end of the season.
by Jay on Aug 22, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How’d that election go, Jay? The one that never happened?
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Aug 23, 2008 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which part?
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 23, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Incessantly and without fail. Especially when there is any mention of the Yankees.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s about it. I despise Detroit’s management philosophy, but our guys all seem to like their guys pretty well, so that only goes so far.
by fleerdon on Aug 22, 2008 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The current Tigers team I don’t like. But I actually didn’t mind their team from about 2 years ago. I just can’t stand the Sox or Twins.
by APV on Aug 22, 2008 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Tigers got a bit more tolerable with Pudge gone. They’re half gone, anyways, and will suck in a couple of years. Hell, they suck now. Guillen isn’t getting younger and they have little pitching beyond Verlander and Gallaraga. Pumpkinhead Polanco!
by odradek on Aug 23, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hello jerseywahoo,
While I wouldn’t be too thrilled with either of them in the WS (I’d rather have TB or the Angels, with the Rays my first choice), I wouldn’t mind the Twins so much. The White Sox would be harder to stomach for me, but I’d prefer either of them to the Yankees or Red Sox.
In fact, I hope the Twins and White Sox both get in – that way, barring a major collapse by TB, both the Red Sox and Yankees will be staying home this winter – wouldn’t that be nice? Heck, the last time there was a postseason without at least one of those teams in it was before Jacobs/Progressive Field opened (1993, I believe).
Just my 2 cents – no offense.
The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.
by indiansfan on Aug 22, 2008 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t find that depressing. I find it to be progress.
Truth is, our bigger problem has been lack of save opportunities — too many games blown open before the 9th.
by Jay on Aug 21, 2008 2:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lack of save opportunities has been officially dubbed a Betancourt, starting this year.
by NickFantana on Aug 21, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sub question: Who hates us? The White Sox fans I’ve known are much more vehemently anti-Twins than they are anti-Indians, and the Tigers fans I run into have against us is more ill-will from the 90s than it is organization-wide hatred. What’s the Tribe-hating contingent? Baltimore? Anaheim? Boston? Any NL teams besides the Reds?
by fleerdon on Aug 22, 2008 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Meh, we are the A’s. Cheap, somewhat under-the-radar but always relevant.
by joeee on Aug 22, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We haven’t been relevant since May.
by JulioBernazard on Aug 22, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not true. We had CC and Blake to shop around—a lot better than sucking and having no one to trade, eh?
by jhon on Aug 22, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I were a Seattle fan, I’d hate the Indians for the 95 playoffs, for Omar, and for Richie Sexson (indirectly, anyway).
by peter m on Aug 22, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how about for the absolute fleecing of Bavasi in 2006? it’s legendary around here. it must bug them.
by still ill on Aug 22, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
People don’t hate the Browns, Indians or Cavs. But, the Buckeyes, a team that’s played in the national title game 3 times recently, that’s the team they hate.
I don’t think other fans even care about our Indians.
I never exhaled.
by elsandito on Aug 22, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually I know many Steelers fans that hate the Browns
And many ChiSox fans really dislike us as well, probably moreso than Minny or Detroit.
by talonk on Aug 22, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very true, the Steeler rivalry has been therre. I don’t know why White Sox fans would hate our team any more than any other Central team, except KC. And that’s only because KC presents no threat in challenging for the division.
I never exhaled.
by elsandito on Aug 22, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the White Sox fans don’t like the Tribe because they actually had some pretty decent teams in the 90s that we crushed like so many used aluminum pop cans.
Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...
by woodsmeister on Aug 23, 2008 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think DC area fans hate the Cavs (or LeBron anyway). They got pretty nasty during last year’s playoffs, anyway. I have the impression that Detroit fans are similar. Hatred seems to have to do with big payrolls and or being successful and or with a specific history of some kind. Why don’t people hate the Rays (who have always been horrible?). Because they’ve always been horrible and irrelevant. That may explain why the Indians don’t get people too agitated. It’s been a long time since they won a title, and the fans that might hate us (Red Sox Nation) have a team that keeps beating us (so we get pitied, not hated).
by peter m on Aug 23, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They’re patronizing: underdogs, overachievers, “a surprisingly talented team,” “Grady Sizemore is actually quite good,” “Boy, what happened to them this season?” “I hear we’re signing that big pitcher you guys had, the one that one the Cy Young?”
by odradek on Aug 23, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe a few. Mostly, white people advocating for them.
by Jay on Aug 22, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t want to stir up this debate, but do want to point out that the SI poll that is the basis for most people’s view that Native Americans don’t care has been much criticized and the authors of the article reporting on it have consistently refused to release their methodology. Other studies have found very different results: here’s one from the late 90s by a John Carroll professor, for example http://www.aistm.org/fr.2002.of.polls.htm
by peter m on Aug 23, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry to anyone who would like to comment, but I am shutting this discussion down.
It simply has no place here.
by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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