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Game Thread: August 23, 2008

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Cleveland Indians @ Texas Rangers


Cleveland at Texas, 8:05 PM (STO)

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Sal Fasano is surprisingly well spoken. I think I like him.

by obobcatu on Aug 23, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hodges already has a HR. Mills is 1-1 with an RBI.

Good performances through 3 or so innings out of both KDLC and Huff.

by afh4 on Aug 23, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

big picture…maybe we can get a big picture start from Sowers

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 7:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This Sowers thing is intriguing.

This Laffey-Sowers thing actually.

I sort of like lost seasons with young players?

by afh4 on Aug 23, 2008 7:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Spring Training 4EVAH!

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 7:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think I forgot to invite you. Spring Training Winter Haven ’09?

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 7:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s not in Goodyear?

by afh4 on Aug 23, 2008 8:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Indians’ spring training is in Goodyear.

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 8:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You’re just going to Winter Have for the hell of it?

This is just so insane it might work.

by afh4 on Aug 23, 2008 8:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ideally, you behave exactly as you would if the Indians were there. But they’re not.

I can only hope they won’t have taken the bleachers down yet.

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 8:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lord Kelvin has 5 K’s through 6.

by afh4 on Aug 23, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry. Through 3.

by afh4 on Aug 23, 2008 7:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Victor 0-2 with a K so far

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SHOWCASE.

Oh wait, bad timing…

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In Cliff we trust.

by vbc3 on Aug 23, 2008 7:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what’s the deal with this rain delay…anyone know?

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And I heard the stars at night were big and bright down there. :(

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In Cliff we trust.

by vbc3 on Aug 23, 2008 8:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anybody know what’s up with this delay?

by afh4 on Aug 23, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

weather.com thinks Arlington is clear.

by afh4 on Aug 23, 2008 8:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

95°F – Sunny. Extremely hot.Wind: 5mph/E says Sportsline.

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In Cliff we trust.

by vbc3 on Aug 23, 2008 8:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hodges has a double and HR in Akron tonight. Slacker.

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Probably he read those posts in which we excoriated him for being too old and pedestrian.

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 8:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Have you checked out minorleaguesplits lately? Very impressive. Instant luck-filter and park-filter and MLE-filter, and you can look at a player’s current season with one club or cumulative for the whole season, and any of the last four seasons, and apply any of the filters to any of the views. Definitely will be using this to settle some borderline calls for the PTM lists.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 8:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like the upgrade…it used to be terrible (but the only source for some information). I should put up a fanshot of these kind of resources so that everyone else can be a minor league junkie.

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 8:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

my first nugget of quick info from the site:

Wes Hodges has no power against LHP (3HR in 280+ PA)

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 8:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Santana’s MLE is .856.

His BABIP is pretty crazy though.

by afh4 on Aug 23, 2008 8:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, this blows. If they don’t play, I may accidentally accomplish something while I’m home not drinking.

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Solution: Drink while at home.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 23, 2008 8:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s a novel approach. I’m on an anti-inflammatory, sadly, and I like my stomach non-bleedy.

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 8:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Three-day-old news?

You reminded me, though, I meant to un-close that thread yesterday — sort of a 48-hour probation.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 8:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just saw it a few minutes ago. Sorry.

by obobcatu on Aug 23, 2008 8:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also, I don’t love it, but I do love the group we end up with here. I may be confused about the causes and effects of that, but it is why I do what I do.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 8:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh don’t get me wrong, I understand why you do it, and I like that you do it. I just find it funny when it happens. Sort of like hazing I guess.

by obobcatu on Aug 23, 2008 8:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Strangely, I don’t enjoy other people finding it funny. I guess I’m just not really into bullying, which apparently is not what others would guess.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 9:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Better that people find it funny than, I don’t know, mean spirited. Because the thing is it’s generally done with a sort of gruff sense of humor that we’ve all come to appreciate. So I don’t think bobcat is saying he thinks it’s like ha-ha-that’s-hilarious-you-just-owned-that-guy, more like, hey that was kind of funny and hopefully the “victim” gets it and sticks around.

I know you don’t like being a “character”, Jay, but for better or worse until we meet each other face to face (and I’ve really only met Andrew and Brick) those of us who are frequent contributors with distinctive voices do become characters for each other.

by mrich on Aug 23, 2008 9:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not that I would count myself among the frequent or useful contributors to this site. I’ve just been here a while.

by mrich on Aug 23, 2008 9:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s basically it. Thanks mrich.

by obobcatu on Aug 23, 2008 9:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don’t mind being though of as a character — and what other option would I have, anyway? — but it really does bother me to think that some might see me as someone who gets off on smacking people around.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 9:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think the reasonable ones here recognize that it’s a necessary evil on your part.

by obobcatu on Aug 23, 2008 9:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope that’s the case, thanks for saying.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 9:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wtf is going on here?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 23, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rangers people say the game should start in like 30 min.

by obobcatu on Aug 23, 2008 8:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ooo, I’ll get to catch nearly all of it then. Groovy.

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In Cliff we trust.

by vbc3 on Aug 23, 2008 8:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mills got lifted early…hmmm?

by afh4 on Aug 23, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Meloan just struck out the side.

Buffalo verging on getting no-hit.

by afh4 on Aug 23, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s a big-picture win.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 9:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Huff threw 97 pitches.

by afh4 on Aug 23, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jason Cooper breaks up the no-no.

by afh4 on Aug 23, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s a big picture who-cares.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 9:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Speaking of which, siiiigh Brad Snyder.

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 9:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That sigh started, like, four years ago.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 9:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, but isn’t he out of options? I guess it’s like, “sigh, may actually be approaching something resembling the end of Brad Snyder’s tenure as an Indian. Possibly.”

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 9:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m done mourning for Snyder. I won’t be mourning our playoff chances in the last week of September, either — it’s not yet over but still long gone.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 9:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’ve seen him play and regard him with irrational favoritism. Of course, he’s still got seven figures in his bank account, so I can probably choke back my tears.

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 9:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And hey, you’ll be ecstatic to hear that Casey Blake has collected an inning at second base with the Dodgers. So, you know, whoever said he was being considered as an option there — totally vindicated.

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 9:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Things I don’t ever want to do:

Run a marathon in heat and humidity through Beijing

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There are still events going on? I thought we were into rhythmic gymnastics territory by now.

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 9:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did you the gymnasts with the hula-hoop things? It was like an interpretive dance. Somehow that will remain an Olympic sport and baseball will not. Go figure.

by obobcatu on Aug 23, 2008 9:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I saw about 5 minutes of that this afternoon. What’s sad is that the physical movements those gymnasts make are damn impressive. But the inclusion of bizarre accessories makes it look like a South Park spoof.

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 9:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That Opening Ceremony is beyond satire, beyond parody.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 9:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, well, the big-name rhythmic gymnasts show for the Olympics, that’s the difference.

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 9:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Men’s basketball gold medal game is at 1:30am CDT tonight. Sadly I won’t be staying up for it. Other than that though there’s nothing interesting left. Watching the marathon is incredibly boring.

by mrich on Aug 23, 2008 9:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Men’s marathon is always the last event.

by ganatz on Aug 23, 2008 9:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

players warming up

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Booyah. Anybody sticking around for this one, or am I hanging with my imaginary Internet friends tonight?

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 9:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I will stick around for the first few innings at least. Wife is out babysitting and I’ve got a sixer of miller lite with my name on it.

by mrich on Aug 23, 2008 9:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i’ll be between here and doing research, because saturday night is really the best time to be doing research.

by xrickx on Aug 23, 2008 9:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It is, actually. I find the sense of sacrifice can drive me on weekend evenings — like, either I get something done, or I’m just being a boring dude.

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 9:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Being a transplanted Tribe fan, none of my current friends really give a crap about the Indians. They just don’t understand how I’d rather watch this than be social. Don’t they understand…it’s not even a choice.

by xrickx on Aug 23, 2008 9:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i’m working at home, so i’m here

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 9:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

McCarthy seems sharp

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What is this the national league?

by ahowie on Aug 23, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

GRADY! So sneaky, sir!

by obobcatu on Aug 23, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was … too close.

by mrich on Aug 23, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Peralta would hit 40 bombs playing in that park.

by xrickx on Aug 23, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m pretty much over Shin Soo Choo. Decent 4th outfielder on a good team, nothing more.

by mrich on Aug 23, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If the choice is between Choo and Francisco, I think I go with Choo.

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 9:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really really wish Gutierrez had showed he could be an everyday outfielder this season so that we could have Choo and Francisco occupy the 3rd and 4th OF spots. Sadly…

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 9:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Frank holds pace and finishes the season this way, I’m more excited about that than I am by Francisco’s 110 OPS+. That might be irrational.

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 9:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

only because francisco has had a reverse split, you have to like what he does at the dish. granted, his defense is crap and he doesn’t have choo’s patience. but he won’t strike out as much as choo, and, more importantly, he’s got more pop. it’s close.

if dellucci can be dumped, the OF with choo/benny/gutz in the corners is an ok start for 2009.

by xrickx on Aug 23, 2008 9:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If I only ever make one contribution to this site, I hope it is to dispel the notion that Francisco has some sort of R/L split, reverse of otherwise.

Career minor league numbers:
vs. RHP .822 OPS
vs. LHP .819 OPS

Career major league numbers
vs. RHP .814 OPS
vs. LHP .786 OPS

THAT IS NOT A SPLIT!

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 9:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the point is that francisco does not significantly hit left-handed pitching better than right-handed pitching. he’s not, say, franklin gutierrez.

by xrickx on Aug 23, 2008 9:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, but that isn’t a good thing when your hitting isn’t that good overall.

If you’re a mediocre hitter overall, better that you have an extreme split, so that at least you can be a useful platoon guy.

Vote Choo.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 9:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Campaign commercials please.

by obobcatu on Aug 23, 2008 9:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You really think that? I don’t. Not if we’re contending.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 9:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You really think that’s okay? I don’t.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 9:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

is it ideal? hell no. but if francisco can put up a .280/.345/.475 line in LF and choo/gutz can manage in RF, i think the limited amount of money that will be spent could be spent elsewhere.

starting pitcher? bullpen? first base? third base?

i would just prefer to not give bobby abreu 2 years, $24M to play horrible defense and do offensively what choo, hopefully, can do if he continues to improve.

by xrickx on Aug 23, 2008 9:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

all reasons why Francisco is a great 4th OFer. You can bring him in to pinch-hit against either RHP or LHP with reasonable confidence that he’ll put the ball in play. While he’s not a great OFer, he does have experience at all three of the spots. With an injury to a regular, he can sub in for 4 weeks without embarrasing you. But he’s a sub-par everyday OFer.

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 9:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Which is starting to make me think, he’s an NL guy.

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 9:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think he’d be a great NL guy. And if we had 3 starting outfielders he’d be pretty decent for us.

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 9:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m praying Gutz has turned a corner (956 OPS so far in Aug) and can lock down RF for next year, and we start off with LaPorta/Sizemore/Gutierrez. No way we can dump Looch. No idea whether Francisco or Choo will be the 5th OF and frankly I don’t care all that much.

But if Gutierrez continues to suck at the plate, that’s bad, and trading for a bat for RF becomes a necessity.

by mrich on Aug 23, 2008 9:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No offense, but LaPorta is probably a mid-season callup .. if at all.

by Toxicadam on Aug 23, 2008 9:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You sound like indiansfan.

I don’t think it’s out of the question at all that LaPorta starts 2009 with the big league club. And he will for sure be up at some point next year.

by mrich on Aug 23, 2008 9:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s not out of the question as such, but it would definitely be out of character for the front office.

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 9:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i think there’s a “bad” contract out there somewhere in one of Cleveland’s positions of need, and swapping dellucci for that contract might make sense.

honestly, $4M isn’t that much. if mike hampton can be traded, anybody can be traded. there’s an overpaid reliever or catcher or corner infielder somewhere. i haven’t looked yet, but i’ll come up with one.

by xrickx on Aug 23, 2008 9:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that’s always been the thought on choo. when you sport an OBP .100 points over your average, play good defense, and can play on the big side of a platoon, you’ve got some uses.

by xrickx on Aug 23, 2008 9:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

excellent start.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 23, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gimenez hits a grand-slam in the 9th for Buffalo. Improbable 4-3 lead now after having been no-hit for 8 innings.

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Got away with one there, Sowers. Hamilton ripped that.

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cue obligatory “Sowers perfect through one” comment.

by obobcatu on Aug 23, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Does McCarthy bring back bad memories of the last weekend of the 2005 season for anybody else?

by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 23, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i wish the rangers would have valued danks more than they did.

by xrickx on Aug 23, 2008 9:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That story was posted today at 8:13pm EST. Why haven’t updated it yet?

by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 23, 2008 9:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sowers fastball (according to Gameday) is a little slower tonight than it’s been lately. 88-90 instead of 90-92.

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My man Sowers! I still believe!

by Toxicadam on Aug 23, 2008 9:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sowers is absurdly efficient so far. 16 pitches, 14 for strikes.

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is a good way to get banned. Just spamming links with no conversation.

by Toxicadam on Aug 23, 2008 9:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha. Someone posted that post the other day and I left a comment that pretty much called the writer a moron. Apparently my comment was not acceptable.

by obobcatu on Aug 23, 2008 9:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Group excursion? Everybody goes there and calls the guy a moron?

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 10:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Internet field trip! Drop me off in the red light district.

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 10:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This was hilariously stupid last night, and just as much so tonight!

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by vbc3 on Aug 23, 2008 10:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just gave him a totally un-ironic avatar.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 10:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well played.

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In Cliff we trust.

by vbc3 on Aug 23, 2008 10:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chamberlain is recovering either from a rotator cuff injury or severe constipation.

“I cut a couple loose. Nothing tightened up after I let one go.”

“I had to look around on the mound just to make sure I knew what I was doing.”

“I don’t have any doubt he’ll pitch this year. We’ve got to try to figure out what he’s going to do, but a day at a time,” Girardi said.

And, of course…

“To fill his spot in the rotation Saturday, the Yankees activated Carl Pavano from the 60-day disabled list.”

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Grady going for 10 SB’s on the night!

by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 23, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Grady kicking sand in Laird’s face all night

by mrich on Aug 23, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We need to pile on some runs this inning.

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lhet’s Gho Jhonny!

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That sucked, but I salute not bunting nonetheless.

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 10:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man, this feels like karma for the other night’s 5 DP game.

by Toxicadam on Aug 23, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I mean, flag, Adam.

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 10:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think you meant to phlag me

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 10:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who replaced Jeremy Sowers with Cliff Lee?

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sweet sassy molassy, did anybody see Miggy Cabrera’s moonshot in KC? I don’t often have the opportunity to say “it cleared the fountain,” so I will. It cleared the fountain.

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he’s been a beast lately. dammit.

by xrickx on Aug 23, 2008 10:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how sweet would it be for cleveland to knock boston out of playoff contention at the end of september? it would mean the white sox/twins would win the wild card (and i’m against the white sox). but it just might be worth it to see both boston and the yanks sitting this one out.

by xrickx on Aug 23, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   1 recs

I’m going to be at one of those games in Fenway and, yes, it would be very sweet

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 10:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sunzabitches, that was a great pitch.

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

routine….ground…ball….

by xrickx on Aug 23, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

C’mon, Jeremy, K this clown.

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Time to get tough Jeremy.

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Garko could have redeemed at least 50% of his suck had he pulled off the hidden ball trick there.

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

having seen him steal three bases, the rangers feared grady would run down the tagging runner.

by xrickx on Aug 23, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice. Seriously, that’s the most I’ve seen Grady get on a throw all year.

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 10:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

General Tsaowers + Grady Sizemore = a big jar of Get Out Jam

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Heegan: “Sowers has been 91, 92 with his fastball”

Suck it down, Gameday

by Toxicadam on Aug 23, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Awww… would have been nice to get out of this inning.

by Toxicadam on Aug 23, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sowers is PISSED.

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that’s just good hitting. dammit, crappy defense.

by xrickx on Aug 23, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was already to post the “big picture” comment, too

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fat Shortstop Third Baseman First Baseman hit 100 RBI.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That General Tsaowers joke of mine always makes me want Chinese.

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What happened on the bad defensive play, didn’t see it.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Slow roller a few feet to SS side of 2B. Jhonny waited it out instead of charging, then threw wide-right of first, pulling Garko off the bag.

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 10:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

routine grounder to short. jhonny came in, shoulda kept charging (but didnt), kinda threw from the side, pulled garko off the bag, and arias made it to first safely (allowing davis to move to third) on what should have been the second out.

by xrickx on Aug 23, 2008 10:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

don’t loose focus, Sowers

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sowers so very, very big picture.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i’m holding off till I see how he comes back next inning

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 10:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Prognostication 1, Indians (and Jeremy Sowers) 0

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 10:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn. You’re getting all uppity like Chuck all of a sudden.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 10:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

can we petition for south korea’s government to consider choo as an honorary member of this gold medal team?

by xrickx on Aug 23, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Too bad we had all those really good reasons for not just sending him to compete with that team … trying to think of one of those reasons …

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 10:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You would think that the chance of a gold medal would outweigh any evaluative value these last three weeks have had, wouldn’t you?

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 10:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Especially insofar as his being on the team might make winning the medal at least incrementally more probable.

Gosh, I’m really really sober, aren’t I?

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 10:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Carl Pavano 1-0 … Mike Hampton making 6 consecutive starts …

The end is near.

by Toxicadam on Aug 23, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

pavano and jaret wright have really solidified that rotation. kudos to cashman for going against all popular opinions of the time and giving out those two big deals.

by xrickx on Aug 23, 2008 10:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

time for a beer…bartender!

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

/obligatory Garko sucks comment

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chisenhall finishes the evening 2-3 with 2 2Bs and a BB

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

.301 …. OPS a tad over .800

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 10:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anybody else listening to the OMG PEDs guy on FSN? It’s hilarious. “Parents have to assume their kids friends are doing steroids.”

by mrich on Aug 23, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This guy just said Texas is testing chess players for PEDs. I really hope he was kidding but I don’t think he was.

by mrich on Aug 23, 2008 10:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Says if your formerly sedentary child starts going to the gym, you should be concerned that they’re doing steroids. Also, if your teenager is acting weird or having mood swings, they’re doing steroids. Also STEROIDS STEROIDS STEROIDS STEROIDS STEROIDS STEROIDS STEROIDS

by mrich on Aug 23, 2008 10:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tom Mastny blows it in the 9th in Buffalo….figures

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I will hold out hope for Tom Mastny until it becomes surreal to do so.

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 10:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

come on, Sowers

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ehh.. I don’t feel so good about this game. Things seem to be going against us.

Ehh.. I don’t feel so good about this game. Things seem to be going against us.I wish palcal were here to cheer us up with his statistics.

by Toxicadam on Aug 23, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we’ve won every game palcal didn’t reveal a depressing stat in which we finished with a higher score than the opponent.

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 10:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sowers fastball actually seems to have more movement the harder he throws it

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if marlon byrd keeps this up, he’s almost guaranteed a 5 year deal to play CF for the angels next year.

by xrickx on Aug 23, 2008 10:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   2 recs

From Indians.com: “Jeremy Sowers, who traditionally works around a tough inning early before working deeper into the ballgame, can clinch the series with a win over the Rangers tonight.”

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 23, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh god, they’re rolling.

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by vbc3 on Aug 23, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sowers is way too jeremy sowers for my liking tonight.

by xrickx on Aug 23, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That women’s 4×400 was fun to watch. I appove of Allyson Felix.

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Have you seen the article that said that about 99.9% of the Olympics (for the athletes) is a sex fest. They mocked Phelps saying even a geek like him could get laid, haha.

by obobcatu on Aug 23, 2008 10:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

but the gymnasts are like, 15.

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 23, 2008 10:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think they rep the .1%

by obobcatu on Aug 23, 2008 10:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i’ve heard this before on many occasions from people who would know

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 10:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Somehow I don’t think Phelps needs a sex-fest to get laid at this point.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 10:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

/me cues up “When The Levee Breaks”

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by vbc3 on Aug 23, 2008 10:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can tell you’re not one of the kids.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 10:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

These aren’t the droids you’re looking for.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 10:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he can go about his business

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 23, 2008 10:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Heh. Perhaps a better litmus test:

YOU WILL BOW DOWN BEFORE ME!!!

BOTH YOU, AND THEN ONE DAY, YOUR HEIRS!!!!

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by vbc3 on Aug 23, 2008 10:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Eddie Poo next on the docket. God help us.

by obobcatu on Aug 23, 2008 10:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This already feels like one of those “Yakety Sax” games you spend months trying to forget. This move could make it truly epic.

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by vbc3 on Aug 23, 2008 10:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Love ya Shoppach, but I think we’ll need to re-team Jeremy and Sal next time out.

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by vbc3 on Aug 23, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh jesus.

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by vbc3 on Aug 23, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

About Sowers.

by afh4 on Aug 23, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah…um…we’re gonna need you to move your stuff over there…um….yeah

/gestures towards I-90 E

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 11:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can’t believe we’re losing to this team tonight

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 11:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another free run. Too bad we have Looch and Jeremy.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 23, 2008 11:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

try not to gark this up Garko

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

MOREE

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 23, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Me Gusta Garko… still.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 23, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SHOPPPPPPPPPP

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 23, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Warner Madrigal….sounds like a cast member in the next Harry Potter movie

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

obviously a Slytherin

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 11:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is a badly played game.

by afh4 on Aug 23, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

played = pitched

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 11:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmmm. My comments aren’t really posting right. Weird.

by afh4 on Aug 23, 2008 11:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ALL or nothing

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Could Shop more obviously be the strongest guy on the team?

by afh4 on Aug 23, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like these Coors commercials having the same voiceover guy as in Lebowski.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shoppach is a blessing of a backup catcher

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Aug 23, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hammy: “Well, edward mujica is now pitching in a tie game”

SHUDDER

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 23, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

bring in…..uh…..um……hmm…..

by APV on Aug 23, 2008 11:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

rincon warming up. oh.

by xrickx on Aug 23, 2008 11:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So, the problem with this team is pitching?

by afh4 on Aug 23, 2008 11:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that 2-2 pitch to bradley was strike three. mujica can’t get 3 strikes, let alone 4.

by xrickx on Aug 23, 2008 11:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another game in Arlington

by ahowie on Aug 23, 2008 11:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This game is hilarious. Cashed in my free Polar Pop coupon at Circle K (thanks, Tribe!) and nearly drove off the road laughing when Shop homered. Awesome.

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by vbc3 on Aug 23, 2008 11:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I got one of those the other day. Wasn’t free, but for the price, I was expecting a dixie cup.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 23, 2008 11:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, this thing is huge.

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by vbc3 on Aug 23, 2008 11:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Edward Mujidini.

by afh4 on Aug 23, 2008 11:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

EW: “Ron, I was thinking…”
RW: “Don’t tell me. The bullpens.”
EW: “Yeah, I mean, I’m looking at my guys, and at your guys, and it’s like…”
RW: “…either they’re major league pitchers, or they’re not, right?”
EW: “Basically. And we’re so far out of it already, that it’s more worthwhile for me to just throw the guy out there and see what he can do.”
RW: “Likewise. So are you suggesting what I think you’re suggesting?”
EW: “Getting glassy eyed on Xanax for 48 straight hours?”
RW: “…Actually, Eric, I was thinking, spring training-style reliever usage.”
EW: “Well, yeah, that as well.”

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 11:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   2 recs

I always feel so bad for Ron Washington when they pan the camera over to him. He looks like a guy just staring out into the abyss.

by Toxicadam on Aug 23, 2008 11:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don’t feel bad. He’s just finding his character.

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In Cliff we trust.

by vbc3 on Aug 23, 2008 11:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hi, I’m vbc3 for the Subway Big Philly Cheese Steak.

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by vbc3 on Aug 23, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I DO NOT BELIEVE IN GERALD LAIRD!

by fleerdon on Aug 23, 2008 11:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dammit .. beat me to it ahowie.

It’s sad that I have a photo of him in my photobucket account.

by Toxicadam on Aug 23, 2008 11:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rec

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by vbc3 on Aug 23, 2008 11:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also, whenever you post that pic .. you have to tag it: “I AM THE EATER OF SOULS” or “THERE IS NO DANA, ONLY ZHOOL”

by Toxicadam on Aug 23, 2008 11:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jay, you serious with that olympic thing… or seeing how many hits you can get?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 23, 2008 11:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, I mean, why the hell not?

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 11:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It just doesn’t seem plausible.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 23, 2008 11:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lots of things don’t. The DH. Interleague play. Instant replay.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 11:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

instant replay is so plausible it isn’t funny. the others I’d have to ponder more seriously.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 23, 2008 11:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know it seems crazy considering they make good dough, but if the players were given cash (similar to the money they receive to go to Japan immediately after the season to play in those exhibition games), they’d do it.

by xrickx on Aug 23, 2008 11:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They’d do it for nothing.

The players are not the ones keeping it from happening.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 11:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think they (MLBPA) would demand some compensation in exchange for the travel demand. But I agree the players aren’t the major impediment.

I understand the ownership concerns, though. Why it’s more comforting to watch your player get hurt on your field than an international field, I do not know…but I know the injury concern is real (not that it’s any greater when playing ball over there than it is here).

by xrickx on Aug 23, 2008 11:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not to mention the injury concern of 170 games instead of 162. It’s like the NFL idiots not thinking a 17th or 18th reg season game will have consequences.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 23, 2008 11:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You apparently haven’t read the article. There would be no extra games; in fact, there would be fewer.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 11:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I confess to have read less than 25% of the article.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 23, 2008 11:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, we’re sending players to the Olympics, which is during the regular season.

They likely would be away for perhaps 18 days, during which each player would play at most nine games. Typically, the everyday players would have played 15 games during that time.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 11:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so the players’ actual teams would be playing without their best players?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 23, 2008 11:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

only send players from teams out of contention, basically.

by xrickx on Aug 24, 2008 12:00 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yea that part I saw. I assumed it would be during a couple week delay.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 24, 2008 12:00 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

delay = extended AS break

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 24, 2008 12:01 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well, without grady, cleveland would have a better draft pick next year.

honestly, it only occurs once every four years. meh.

by xrickx on Aug 24, 2008 12:02 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Some of them, yes. Generally, about 36 players total from the worst 12 teams.

by Jay on Aug 24, 2008 12:04 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Each player’s participation would be optional.

The union gets to have a bunch of extra players earning major league salaries and service times. It’s a net win for them.

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 11:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m just content with the World BB Classic. I mean, I don’t have any gold medals on my wall. But c’mon…who cares?

But a greater point: if the goal is to have the BEST athletes from every country compete against each other, fine. We already have that in baseball. It’s called MLB. And if we want to draw distinctions by place of birth, embrace the WBBC.

by xrickx on Aug 23, 2008 11:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

(not that I don’t think your idea is a novel one, and probably the best solution we’ve heard so far)

by xrickx on Aug 23, 2008 11:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank you.

Again, I think the “caring” becomes a circular question. If we had a good Olympic team, you’d care.

I mean, seriously … people cared about HOCKEY this one time …

by Jay on Aug 24, 2008 12:06 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it is the best idea ive heard, but I still don’t think it’s plausible.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 24, 2008 12:08 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Though it does strike me as the kind of thing that 16 months from now, I’ll be like, I wrote that?

by Jay on Aug 23, 2008 11:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DP!

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 23, 2008 11:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DP city tonight.

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by vbc3 on Aug 23, 2008 11:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs


Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 23, 2008 11:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Water can flood a basement.

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by vbc3 on Aug 23, 2008 11:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

especially in Westbrook, CT apparently.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 23, 2008 11:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

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