Game Thread: August 24, 2008
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Carroll and Dellucci batting 2-3. I wish it were Shoppach and Choo. Or anybody else, really.
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions
We get the Dodgers/Phillies game here, alas.
Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.
Casey K’s with the bases loaded to end the first.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
and all his teammates were apparently laughing at him.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
Laird sounds like some sort of east European regional delicacy.
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions
Would you like Pickled Laird or Smoke Laird?
by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
If you were drunk enough and in Prague….
by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
How to tell if it’s real absinthe: If you could afford it, it’s not real.
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I go with the….if you can still focus on a point on the opposite wall after two of them, it’s not real absinthe
Absinthe: Don’t believe the hype.
Absinthe is the NYY/BOS AA Prospect of liquor.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
They’re selling extremely watered down absinthe in the states now. Coming soon to a lame bar near you.
by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
And they will be “totally wasted” and braging loudly the next day at brunch table next to you. You’ll pretend not to be listening, but you will be amused/annoyed by every word.
by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I know. It tastes like Sambuca mixed with Listerine. At least the European fake stuff is still a very strong liquor. Anyone ever hear the Mitch Hedburg routine about absinthe?…a real classic.
he talks about drinking absinthe and how he wanted to trip but instead just got really drunk. so he was kind of “forced to trip”, “why is the ground as low as I can go”. He then segued into this link
Next time you drink absinthe you should pour out a tiny bit for Mitch. But just a tiny bit, that stuff is expensive.
by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Mitch Hedburg would not condone that form of remembrance.
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
instead I’ll drink it in the Eastern European way, carmelizing a little bit of sugar dipped in absinthe before dipping it into a shot and draining it. I’ll consider the act of liquifying a crystaline structure in a spoon with a lighter sufficient tribute to Mitch.
So you are gonna Smoke Laird! Nice!
by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
An STO commercial leading into the game: “Tuesday night on STO-HD, David Dellucci swings his hot bat in Detroit as the Indians take on the Tigers.” Two things:
1) Has the season really come to this? and
2) If the commercial had featured Sal Fasano, with that wording, there is a chance this board would implode.
Is MLB.tv going to black me out of the game?
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
STO’s feed has been complete crap, if it makes you feel better.
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
C’mon, Reyes. Actually be this good. Do it for the children.
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions
So….we’re temporarily replacing groundball specialist Jake Westbrook with newly minted groundball specialist Anthony Reyes?
Didn’t he argue with Duncan about becoming a groundball pitcher?
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I still think he’ll be another, perhaps a tad better, Paul Byrd. Which isn’t all to bad. I liked Paul Byrd.
The New Groundball City?
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
I like him jumping on the first pitch there. Padilla’s been throwing junk when he gets ahead. Make him pay for grooving strike one.
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Jamey, you’re a nice guy and all, but you’re just missing that … extra something that would make this work.
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions
Josh Hamilton, HE DID CRACK!
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ESPN told me he’s a hero.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
Which high school coach is a hero according to ESPN?
by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
SHOPPACH: “So, Tony, I was thinking, this next guy? Don’t walk him.”
REYES: “Really? I dunno, man, it’s like, three true outcomes, you know? Homerun, walk, groundout.”
SHOPPACH: “…And you don’t want to give up homeruns?”
REYES: “Naw, man. Total buzzkill.”
SHOPPACH: “This inning gets over, we’re gonna have a talk.”
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions
I don’t know – I think you could probably make a case for runs being egalitarian and therefore a function of the strength of the proletariat.
Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...
by woodsmeister on Aug 24, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be the ESPN interpretation. But some runs are more NOW than others.
Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...
by woodsmeister on Aug 24, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
As long as Texas gets an equivalent amount. We can’t have any one team receiving more of the runs than any other team after all. Perhaps we can form a commission (us in charge of course) mandating who gets a hit, where that hit goes, and how often people get hits, thereby ensuring an adequate amount of runs for all?
by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is that Michael Young at short? Because that was Jeter-esque.
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions
Chose Choo! (If he would have been on that Olympic team he would have avoided his compulsory military service, but instead he’s here playing for your Cleveland Indians.)
by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions
PADILLA: “Oy, pendejos! Next time catch it, or I hit you in the nuts myself!”
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions
Garko resurgence alert!
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I thinking more of a Garko drawdown than a Garko surge.
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
The guy in that Arby’s commercial needs smacked. Especially for that whistle and hand gesture at the end of the commercial.
Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...
Arby’s serves breakfast.
It’s the same menu, just earlier.
by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
If I was Kelly’s bat I would be extremely concerned about my near-term welfare.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
So with some quick math it seems if Shoppach played every game this season he would be 2nd in the AL in strikeouts, behind only Jack Cust. He has 97 right now, but would have 144(.37) if he played in all 128 games.
He’s basically become the hitter Ryan Mulhern was supposed to be.
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Scott Lewis went all abbreviated 8 tonight, striking out 8, walking none, and giving up 2 runs on 6 hits, including a home run. He threw 73 strikes in 96 pitches.
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions
I like Lewis. I’ll be interested to see what kind of a look the FO gives him in Spring Training and what things they say about him. He has very quietly put up very good numbers.
I wonder about his durability, but if nothing else he makes an intriguing relief candidate.
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m more excited about ZachJack than Reyes. And that’s not just tonight.
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions
Relating to the discussion above, of the Sowers/Laffey/Jackson/Lewis/Huff group, I think the ones to be most excited about have yet to see any MLB service time.
I actually like Reyes a lot and hope for the best. But I’m just don’t see him keeping it up. It’d be great to be wrong.
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, anybody going to Pittsburgh to attempt to coax CC back next weekend? He should pitch on Saturday or Sunday, but I’m pretty much locked in for Sunday. We should try and make an LGT section the cheap seats.
by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions
Is it GA/pretty empty? I’ve never been to a Pirates game post Three Rivers.
by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
What was the injury timeout for?
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I didn’t like this movie as much as I thought I would.
I’m told repeat viewings improve it, but I don’t want to give it that chance.
Steel Nick
The jokes are so so bad, but the commentary sticks for days. I own it, and find myself wondering why I’m rewatching it constantly.
by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s like he read Frank’s scouting report and decided to use it as a reverse barometer.
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s more pitches than he’s seen in some 4 AB games.
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Frankie would also like to stay on the team.
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keeps his August OPS over .950…
…and the thing with Gutz is he doesn’t have to be as good offensively as Choo or Francisco because he’s so good defensively.
by APV on Aug 24, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If you guys haven’t read the Woot today, I highly recommend it. “Paris! Tahiti! Rio de Janeiro! These are some of the exciting destinations Americans aren’t visiting anymore, because we’re all broke.”
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions
Thank you, Padilla, for hitting the second-worst hitter in our lineup to get to our worst hitter.
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions
I meant “presently,” though I take your point.
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Shoot, a single could score three here. We don’t get much faster.
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions
And Down Goes the Looch! Down goes the Looch!
Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...
Carroll and Dellucci HBP. There’s a chance that was the best possible outcome.
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions
First pitch swinging. COME ON.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
Jhonny didn’t want to give the pitcher a chance to hit him.
Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...
by woodsmeister on Aug 24, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Love the look of the show, but it’s so….god….damn….slow…
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
i’ll agree that not much happens…but so far that hasn’t bothered me. I’ve caught up with the show over the past couple of weeks on demand and really like it.
Oh well, anything that involves Christina Hendricks and plunging necklines can’t be all bad. And it has encouraged me to find a pair of cordovan wingtips.
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
…… googleing …
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Look, man, they can’t all be professional beach volleyball players.
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Who knew Alfred E. Neuman was such a cold. ambitious marketing exec back in the day!
by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
From thewoot blog…Top Ten Things to Look for at the Olympic Closing Ceremonies
1. 200,000 pizzas sent to "Chinese Taipei"
2. Ceremonial lighting of the Tibetan monk
3. Entire crowd replaced by more photogenic stand-ins
4. New technology allows the “completely live” fireworks display to run backward
5. Everyone looks under their seat to find a gift bag containing a DVD copy of Watchmen, one of those cans of Coke in a different language, and a female child
6. Numerous mistakes by Chinese dancers (but no points deducted by judges)
7. Bela Karolyi given Andy Rooney’s old spot on 60 Minutes
8. One more silver medal awarded to Shawn Johnson, just to rub it in
9. Olympic hostesses return to their docking stations and power down
10. Everyone leaves satisfied but then somehow want another Olympics about fifteen minutes later
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions
I like that Reyes has three very different pitches that he regularly uses. I wish he could get a few more Ks with them.
That’s the thing, he kind of needs a fourth.
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
And the cock-eyed flat brim fills a void in my heart.
by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Obligatory joke about deranged pro wrestler.
by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions
Chisenhall has had a pretty nice debut in Mahoning Valley this season. Hope he makes it through 2 levels next season.
I’d also like to see the organization be aggressive in where they start Cord Phelps and Tim Fedroff (as in, skip Lake County).
One man’s petty theft is another man’s back-alley credentials, as I believe the common street toughs say these days, indeed.
by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
do they steal armoirs?
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
That would be more of a high-end thief. Like a cat-burglar.
by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I had some bad curry for dinner, but I still made it.
by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I had chicken curry with vermicelli from Minh Anh on Detroit. It used to be good, but I think they changed management because this is further from fresh Vietnamese and more like Indian take-out.
by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m just joining in .. but I saw Casey with the bases loaded and I really wanted him to pull through. Something is wrong with me.
Can someone give me a Reyes DIP/FIP calculation?
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Thanks, though I have no idea how that is done or why it may beneficial. So long as it’s good I guess, then I am happy.
from Hardball Times:
“Fielding Independent Pitching, a measure of all those things for which a pitcher is specifically responsible. The formula is (HR*13+(BB+HBP-IBB)*3-K*2)/IP, plus a league-specific factor (usually around 3.2) to round out the number to an equivalent ERA number. FIP helps you understand how well a pitcher pitched, regardless of how well his fielders fielded. FIP was invented by Tangotiger.”
The numbers they choose to multiply by seem arbitrary, as well as the final number that is added on. I’m sure the better pitchers will have a better FIP, but I doubt that the statistic can be used as a definitive indication of how good a pitcher actually is, though I’m sure there are other stats that can do that more accurately. It’s interesting nonetheless.
It’s pretty good. I can’t off the top of my head defend that as un-arbitrary, but you can pretty solidly trust the work of Tangotiger and the people who vouch for him (THT among others).
Lookout Landing has really champions tRA, which seems nice.
Steel Nick
In any case, GET SOMEONE WARMING, WEDGE
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Lee
Carmona
Laffey
Reyes
Sowers
is as it appears right now. Nice L/R back and forth. Lots of groundballs.
Steel Nick
The Jhonny pickoff attempt has got to be one of the top 3 useless plays in baseball today.
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Yeah, I’ll take Gutz. At least we got something (ahem, Dodgers & A’s.)
by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
what’s happening?
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great. free bases.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
Rincon: Not the answer.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
Remember last year when Raffy R came in… remember that feeling??
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
He would just lay you down and cuddle you in his arms while softly saying, oh dont’ worry Tribe Fans, it’s going to be alright. I’m here and nobody is going to hurt you.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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oh great. its the indian killer
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
Ramon Vazquez has the greatest Gameday picture ever.
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Hammy: “this is the guy the indians picked over B. Phillips”
STOP.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
i’m still angry about that. not that we gave up on Brandon Phillips, but that we gave up on him to choose Vazquez.
and then got rid of Ramon before he blossomed.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
Ugh. I’m Gameday-ing here, someone give me a good time machine.
Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.
With Betancourt pitching .. you can never tell if Gameday is frozen or not.
by Toxicadam on Aug 24, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Welcome to my world most of the time
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on Aug 24, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea, I don’t believe a woman could be that hideous either.
by Toxicadam on Aug 24, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
EVERYBODY BUNTS WEEEEEEEEEEE
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Yay GUTZ
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on Aug 24, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply actions
Marte is still in the game? weird…
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not a strike
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Well, you just put Huey Lewis in my head for the rest of the week. Can Frank come up to “Power of Love” for the rest of the season?
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Whatever walks you issue / I will always love you
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply actions
Dogs and cats lyin down together. Babies havin babies.
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Ballgame, 7 in a row
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on Aug 24, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply actions
Frank says, “To hell with our draft placement, I’ma win this bitch.”
by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 11:23 PM EDT reply actions
“casey blake an excellent clutch hitter”
double play.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
So much worse than that.
Tie score, top of the 10th, bases loaded, no outs — WP is at 86.5.
Blake hits an easy grounder directly at the third baseman, who steps on the bag and throws home to the catcher, who easily tags the runner out.
Now it’s two out, men on 1B and 2B — WP is at 47.4.
There was no worse play he could have made, other than hitting into a triple-play.
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