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Game Thread: August 24, 2008

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Cleveland Indians @ Texas Rangers


Cleveland at Texas, 8:05 PM (STO)

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SEVEN IN A ROW BABY!!!

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So, what inning does Wedge pinch hit for Marte tonight? Set the over/under for the 6th. I take the over.

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Carroll and Dellucci batting 2-3. I wish it were Shoppach and Choo. Or anybody else, really.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We get the Dodgers/Phillies game here, alas.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Aug 24, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dammit. me too. c’mon bud. quicker with those blackout issues.

by xrickx on Aug 24, 2008 8:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

since when is ESPN’s broadcast a regional thing?

by xrickx on Aug 24, 2008 8:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YOU MUST WATCH JOE MORGAN

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 8:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Big crowd tonight. Geez…

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BENCHED

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 24, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe he gets no ABs tonight. Wedge gives no breaks.

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 8:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Error on Marte per Gameday, what’d he do?

by bewwolv on Aug 24, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Misplayed a simple grounder hit right at him. Little Leaguers make that play.

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 8:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wedge likes it. A reason to pull him.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 24, 2008 8:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

allowed himself to be traded to Cleveland

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 8:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

COCO CRISP DID NOTHING WRONG

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 24, 2008 8:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Reyes again seems to only be throwing 88-90…what’s up with that?

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The stadium is carrying the ball the other way before its even hit.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 24, 2008 8:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Casey strikes out with the bases loaded. Yeah Carlos Santana!

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you’re a genius.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 24, 2008 8:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Casey K’s with the bases loaded to end the first.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 24, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

refreshed to see if i was first. i wasn’t.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 24, 2008 8:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nice pitching, reyes.

by Chiefroy on Aug 24, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m rooting for the bottom third of our lineup tonight

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yay for talking up Shoppach. Let Vmart play 1b and give Garko the Marte treatment.

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what’s the scouting report on Garko’s dominoes game?

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 8:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Manning and Underpants are saying that Shoppach has played himself into a starting role and that it would be unfair to him (at this point in his career) if the FO made him go back to being a back-up C. Manning also took a passive aggressive shot at Garko, which was nice.

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 8:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

…then Shoppach chose door number 2 (SO).

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 8:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i’m not listening to the game tonight, what is this injury delay?

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Laird got hit with the ball. I suspect he took one off the you know what.

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 8:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

shoppach foul tip hit laird.

in the nuts, i believe..

by Chiefroy on Aug 24, 2008 8:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and all his teammates were apparently laughing at him.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 24, 2008 8:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Really? Haha, which ones? I didn’t even notice.

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 8:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Padilla and Washington and “other guys the rangers tv is showing” … per hammy.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 24, 2008 8:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would have laughed.

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 8:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tv said it was the “toe.”

by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 8:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Laird sounds like some sort of east European regional delicacy.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Like something one would put on toast.

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 8:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Would you like Pickled Laird or Smoke Laird?

by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 8:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don’t know about you, but I’d prefer not to smoke Laird

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 8:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If you were drunk enough and in Prague….

by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 8:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ahh…to be in Prague. Two absinthes!

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 8:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How to tell if it’s real absinthe: If you could afford it, it’s not real.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 8:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I go with the….if you can still focus on a point on the opposite wall after two of them, it’s not real absinthe

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 8:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Absinthe: Don’t believe the hype.

Absinthe is the NYY/BOS AA Prospect of liquor.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 8:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They’re selling extremely watered down absinthe in the states now. Coming soon to a lame bar near you.

by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 8:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The same guys who buy the Heinekens will buy the diluted absinthe.

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 8:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And they will be “totally wasted” and braging loudly the next day at brunch table next to you. You’ll pretend not to be listening, but you will be amused/annoyed by every word.

by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 8:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know. It tastes like Sambuca mixed with Listerine. At least the European fake stuff is still a very strong liquor. Anyone ever hear the Mitch Hedburg routine about absinthe?…a real classic.

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 8:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he talks about drinking absinthe and how he wanted to trip but instead just got really drunk. so he was kind of “forced to trip”, “why is the ground as low as I can go”. He then segued into this link

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 8:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Next time you drink absinthe you should pour out a tiny bit for Mitch. But just a tiny bit, that stuff is expensive.

by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 9:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mitch Hedburg would not condone that form of remembrance.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

instead I’ll drink it in the Eastern European way, carmelizing a little bit of sugar dipped in absinthe before dipping it into a shot and draining it. I’ll consider the act of liquifying a crystaline structure in a spoon with a lighter sufficient tribute to Mitch.

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 9:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So you are gonna Smoke Laird! Nice!

by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 9:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Douchyness Alert!

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 9:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don’t even know what that word means

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 9:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

perfect

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 9:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

An STO commercial leading into the game: “Tuesday night on STO-HD, David Dellucci swings his hot bat in Detroit as the Indians take on the Tigers.” Two things:

1) Has the season really come to this? and
2) If the commercial had featured Sal Fasano, with that wording, there is a chance this board would implode.

by Fundamentals on Aug 24, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And this coincides with the team’s longest winning streak of the season. 2008 is the bizarro season.

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 8:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is MLB.tv going to black me out of the game?

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ANSWER: yes.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 8:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

STO’s feed has been complete crap, if it makes you feel better.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 8:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I could not possibly care any less about this Phils/Dodgers game.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 8:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

C’mon, Reyes. Actually be this good. Do it for the children.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So….we’re temporarily replacing groundball specialist Jake Westbrook with newly minted groundball specialist Anthony Reyes?

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

  • another reason it would be fun to sign Orlando Hudson this off-season and shift Cabrera and Peralta left

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 8:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Didn’t he argue with Duncan about becoming a groundball pitcher?

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 8:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I still think he’ll be another, perhaps a tad better, Paul Byrd. Which isn’t all to bad. I liked Paul Byrd.

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 8:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have begrudging (and befuddled) respect for Paul Byrd, but I don’t like Paul Byrd

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 8:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He was so mediocre that it became endearing.

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 8:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s not the word I had in mind.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 8:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Remember the crappy kid on your little league team that would get an rbi once in a while and you felt sort of happy for him. Paul Byrd is like that to me.

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 8:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The New Groundball City?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 24, 2008 8:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cleveland: Built from the Ground(ball) Up

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 8:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Marte: .193!

That’s the closest he’s been to .200 since…wait for it….April 8th

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tell me that was his first AB. Please.

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 8:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m sorry…I missed a line. April 16th. He went 1-3 in his first game, 0-2 in his 2nd (dropping him to .200), and then 0-2, sending him down to .143.

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 8:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like him jumping on the first pitch there. Padilla’s been throwing junk when he gets ahead. Make him pay for grooving strike one.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 8:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jamey, you’re a nice guy and all, but you’re just missing that … extra something that would make this work.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Last night. Winning RBI.

by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 8:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The past is the past, the future is now!

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 8:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This strikeout thing is truly unacceptable

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dear Anthony,

4 pitch walks are not your friend.

Sincerely,

LGT

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Josh Hamilton, HE DID CRACK!

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So did my high school english teacher/varsity baseball coach.

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 9:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ESPN told me he’s a hero.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 9:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did you see all those homers in the derby? Crack must be a PED.

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 9:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Which high school coach is a hero according to ESPN?

by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 9:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That dude from The Rookie?

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 9:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fuck this bullshit

by ahowie on Aug 24, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SHOPPACH: “So, Tony, I was thinking, this next guy? Don’t walk him.”
REYES: “Really? I dunno, man, it’s like, three true outcomes, you know? Homerun, walk, groundout.”
SHOPPACH: “…And you don’t want to give up homeruns?”
REYES: “Naw, man. Total buzzkill.”
SHOPPACH: “This inning gets over, we’re gonna have a talk.”

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

God I hate that guy.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

These are the RANGERS! Score some effing runs, Tribe!

by ahowie on Aug 24, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Runs are so bourgeois.

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 9:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don’t know – I think you could probably make a case for runs being egalitarian and therefore a function of the strength of the proletariat.

Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Aug 24, 2008 9:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Runs are the opiate of the people.

by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 9:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That would be the ESPN interpretation. But some runs are more NOW than others.

Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Aug 24, 2008 9:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As long as Texas gets an equivalent amount. We can’t have any one team receiving more of the runs than any other team after all. Perhaps we can form a commission (us in charge of course) mandating who gets a hit, where that hit goes, and how often people get hits, thereby ensuring an adequate amount of runs for all?

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 9:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Is that Michael Young at short? Because that was Jeter-esque.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YES

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 24, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rhun, Jhonny, Rhun!

Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Aug 24, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hammy seems subdued tonite

by c9kay32 on Aug 24, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the closing ceremony of the olympics got him a little choked up

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 9:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ride the Choo Choo train!

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chose Choo! (If he would have been on that Olympic team he would have avoided his compulsory military service, but instead he’s here playing for your Cleveland Indians.)

by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

PADILLA: “Oy, pendejos! Next time catch it, or I hit you in the nuts myself!”

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol. Padilla does have a very unrepentant murder look going on in his Gameday picture.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 9:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

“I’m sorry I’m sorry I’m sorry!”

by ahowie on Aug 24, 2008 9:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You can’t stop the Choo Choo!

Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Aug 24, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Garko resurgence alert!

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

er, maybe a little?

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 9:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hes up there with rbis, impressive considering his suck streak

by c9kay32 on Aug 24, 2008 9:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thinking more of a Garko drawdown than a Garko surge.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Regression to the mean?

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 9:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

jesus christ shopvac

by ahowie on Aug 24, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

probably means he’s due for a HR in his next AB

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 9:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The guy in that Arby’s commercial needs smacked. Especially for that whistle and hand gesture at the end of the commercial.

Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Aug 24, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Arby’s serves breakfast.

It’s the same menu, just earlier.

by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 9:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If I was Kelly’s bat I would be extremely concerned about my near-term welfare.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   1 recs

So with some quick math it seems if Shoppach played every game this season he would be 2nd in the AL in strikeouts, behind only Jack Cust. He has 97 right now, but would have 144(.37) if he played in all 128 games.

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He’s basically become the hitter Ryan Mulhern was supposed to be.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it’s .36 Ks per AB. Not very good.

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 9:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Scott Lewis went all abbreviated 8 tonight, striking out 8, walking none, and giving up 2 runs on 6 hits, including a home run. He threw 73 strikes in 96 pitches.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like Lewis. I’ll be interested to see what kind of a look the FO gives him in Spring Training and what things they say about him. He has very quietly put up very good numbers.

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 9:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wonder about his durability, but if nothing else he makes an intriguing relief candidate.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he hasn’t had any major setbacks with Cleveland…minor ones yes, but nothing major so far. and it doesn’t seem to have hurt his stuff at all.

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 9:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Choo just smoked Laird!

by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hodges 2-4 tonight with a HR and a dhouble

by ahowie on Aug 24, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

had a HR yesterday, too. trying to salvage what has been a very bad august.

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 9:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m more excited about ZachJack than Reyes. And that’s not just tonight.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just the opposite for me. I have seen enough of the low-velocity lefty parade this year.

by bewwolv on Aug 24, 2008 9:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Relating to the discussion above, of the Sowers/Laffey/Jackson/Lewis/Huff group, I think the ones to be most excited about have yet to see any MLB service time.

by bewwolv on Aug 24, 2008 9:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I still have great hope for Laffey. I’m also a Sowers fan, although I don’t know if he’s going to get his head on straight while in Cleveland.

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 9:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have the same hierarchy, Laffey’s GBs are sexy, and I have hope for Sowers, but I just don’t see how he gets outs with regularity. No Ks, no GBs.

by bewwolv on Aug 24, 2008 9:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I actually like Reyes a lot and hope for the best. But I’m just don’t see him keeping it up. It’d be great to be wrong.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

his results have certainly been better than his performance so far

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 9:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice hose, Choo.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hate this place. I think I also want to change my vote on the Rangers.

--
In Cliff we trust.

by vbc3 on Aug 24, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What’s the deal with Joe Torre’s nose?

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Too much wheat grass?

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 9:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he has a nice watch

by c9kay32 on Aug 24, 2008 9:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let’s go, Tony. Give me a Westbrook.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

THROW IT PAST HIM REYES.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey, anybody going to Pittsburgh to attempt to coax CC back next weekend? He should pitch on Saturday or Sunday, but I’m pretty much locked in for Sunday. We should try and make an LGT section the cheap seats.

by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The section under their scoreboard is pretty nice. I went and saw Bonds there a few years ago.

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 9:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is it GA/pretty empty? I’ve never been to a Pirates game post Three Rivers.

by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 9:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What was the injury timeout for?

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let’s go, Frank, plant one.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

z

Oh. Oh man.

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by vbc3 on Aug 24, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rec. Well played.

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by vbc3 on Aug 24, 2008 9:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I didn’t like this movie as much as I thought I would.

I’m told repeat viewings improve it, but I don’t want to give it that chance.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 24, 2008 10:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s pretty flawed, but I liked enough of it to see it again.

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by vbc3 on Aug 24, 2008 10:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The jokes are so so bad, but the commentary sticks for days. I own it, and find myself wondering why I’m rewatching it constantly.

by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 10:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gutierrez looks to be putting up a good at bat.

by bewwolv on Aug 24, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think it helps that Padilla is insisting on pounding him with fastballs

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 9:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s like he read Frank’s scouting report and decided to use it as a reverse barometer.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

great AB from Gutz

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s more pitches than he’s seen in some 4 AB games.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Frankie would also like to stay on the team.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

keeps his August OPS over .950…

…and the thing with Gutz is he doesn’t have to be as good offensively as Choo or Francisco because he’s so good defensively.

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 9:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

rec for Gut praise.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 24, 2008 9:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

same.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 24, 2008 9:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No no no, Andy, hit it to Young’s right.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

By the way APV, good stuff on the minor league fanshots. Thanks.

by bewwolv on Aug 24, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gutz got a walk on June 8th. His next walk came on July 25th. But he’s got 5 in his last 12 games.

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If you guys haven’t read the Woot today, I highly recommend it. “Paris! Tahiti! Rio de Janeiro! These are some of the exciting destinations Americans aren’t visiting anymore, because we’re all broke.”

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Woot?

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 9:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

http://www.woot.com

One ridiculous bargain every day.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

cool.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 9:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jamey takes one for the team.

Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Aug 24, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and up comes the Looch

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank you, Padilla, for hitting the second-worst hitter in our lineup to get to our worst hitter.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If only Dellucci’s .750 OPS was the worst on the team…

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 9:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I meant “presently,” though I take your point.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DUCKS ON THE POND!!

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by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shoot, a single could score three here. We don’t get much faster.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BACK 2 BACK

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 24, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Freebie!

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by vbc3 on Aug 24, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And Down Goes the Looch! Down goes the Looch!

Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Aug 24, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HA!

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Carroll and Dellucci HBP. There’s a chance that was the best possible outcome.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BOOOOOOOOOOOO

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 24, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Christ, Jhonny.

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by vbc3 on Aug 24, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this is sounding like a DP time machine

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

First pitch swinging. COME ON.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jhonny didn’t want to give the pitcher a chance to hit him.

Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Aug 24, 2008 9:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

after the GUtz AB, you’d think he’d have learned something.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 24, 2008 9:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sucks because we probably could have gotten Padilla out in that inning

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HE HIT TWO GUYS?!

I mean come ON Jhonny. I love you but man, sometimes I think you’re just an idiot!

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 9:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

anyone else watch Mad Men?

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Love the look of the show, but it’s so….god….damn….slow…

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i’ll agree that not much happens…but so far that hasn’t bothered me. I’ve caught up with the show over the past couple of weeks on demand and really like it.

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 9:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh well, anything that involves Christina Hendricks and plunging necklines can’t be all bad. And it has encouraged me to find a pair of cordovan wingtips.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

…… googleing …

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 9:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

meh

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 9:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Look, man, they can’t all be professional beach volleyball players.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, some of them actually have to be attractive.

Proud supporter of the Cleveland.

by fwembt on Aug 24, 2008 10:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who knew Alfred E. Neuman was such a cold. ambitious marketing exec back in the day!

by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 9:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just started watching it after they ran a marathon from last season a few weeks ago. great show.

by bewwolv on Aug 24, 2008 9:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

From thewoot blog…Top Ten Things to Look for at the Olympic Closing Ceremonies

   1. 200,000 pizzas sent to "Chinese Taipei"
   2. Ceremonial lighting of the Tibetan monk
   3. Entire crowd replaced by more photogenic stand-ins
   4. New technology allows the “completely live” fireworks display to run backward
   5. Everyone looks under their seat to find a gift bag containing a DVD copy of Watchmen, one of those cans of Coke in a different language, and a female child
   6. Numerous mistakes by Chinese dancers (but no points deducted by judges)
   7. Bela Karolyi given Andy Rooney’s old spot on 60 Minutes
   8. One more silver medal awarded to Shawn Johnson, just to rub it in
   9. Olympic hostesses return to their docking stations and power down
  10. Everyone leaves satisfied but then somehow want another Olympics about fifteen minutes later

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like that Reyes has three very different pitches that he regularly uses. I wish he could get a few more Ks with them.

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s the thing, he kind of needs a fourth.

by fleerdon on Aug 24, 2008 9:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And the cock-eyed flat brim fills a void in my heart.

by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 9:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice.

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by vbc3 on Aug 24, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it’d be nice if Reyes could make it through 7

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 9:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That sounded aweomse on my Gameday!

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i keep waiting for Hamilton to crush one out of the stadium. i bet he’s really frustrated.

"I think people should be allowed to do anything they want. We haven't tried that for a while. Maybe this time it'll work." -George Carlin

by RD74 on Aug 24, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Obligatory joke about deranged pro wrestler.

by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chisenhall has had a pretty nice debut in Mahoning Valley this season. Hope he makes it through 2 levels next season.

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’d also like to see the organization be aggressive in where they start Cord Phelps and Tim Fedroff (as in, skip Lake County).

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 10:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fedroff and Phelps are a few years older than Chisenhall, right?

by bewwolv on Aug 24, 2008 10:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chisenhall is 19. The other two are 21 year old college guys.

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 10:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But Chisenhall has street smarts.

by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 10:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

stealing from the assistant baseball coach’s office doesn’t seem to be strong evidence of that

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 10:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One man’s petty theft is another man’s back-alley credentials, as I believe the common street toughs say these days, indeed.

by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 10:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

do they steal armoirs?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Aug 24, 2008 10:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That would be more of a high-end thief. Like a cat-burglar.

by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 10:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wasn’t it his RA’s dorm room he stole from?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 24, 2008 10:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought it was the assistant baseball coach…could be wrong, though

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 10:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Time to bench Garko again.

"I think people should be allowed to do anything they want. We haven't tried that for a while. Maybe this time it'll work." -George Carlin

by RD74 on Aug 24, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dislike walks.

That is all.

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by vbc3 on Aug 24, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I want to believe in Tony Reyes.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice one, Marte.

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by vbc3 on Aug 24, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank god for catcher’s speed.

by Toxicadam on Aug 24, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Okay, I’m late. Had my fantasy football draft.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 24, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I had some bad curry for dinner, but I still made it.

by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 10:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In my experience, all curry makes me feel like I ate bad curry.

What’d you have?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 24, 2008 10:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love curry. Butter curry is one of my favorite dishes.

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 10:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I had chicken curry with vermicelli from Minh Anh on Detroit. It used to be good, but I think they changed management because this is further from fresh Vietnamese and more like Indian take-out.

by PatBordersHelmet on Aug 24, 2008 10:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man, feels like the temperature has dropped like 10-15 degrees since the start of the game. Wonderful breeze coursing through my office right now.

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In Cliff we trust.

by vbc3 on Aug 24, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m just joining in .. but I saw Casey with the bases loaded and I really wanted him to pull through. Something is wrong with me.

by Toxicadam on Aug 24, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anything that endears him to the Dodgers, right?

by bewwolv on Aug 24, 2008 10:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hammy blew a call. I’m writing this down, it’s going on his permanent record.

by Toxicadam on Aug 24, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I approve of Reyes strikeouts

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fascist.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 24, 2008 10:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seriously though, is this all smoke and mirrors? Have we overdiscussed this? What’re the odds this is all sustainable?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 24, 2008 10:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m starting to like this Reyes trade a lot more.

by JRontherim on Aug 24, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is what Baltimore fans felt like with Guthrie.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 24, 2008 10:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s nice to be on the other end of it, isn’t it?

by JRontherim on Aug 24, 2008 10:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can someone give me a Reyes DIP/FIP calculation?

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by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FIP with CLE is 4.25.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 24, 2008 10:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would be flat out elated if he consistently pitched to a 4.25

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by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 10:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

coming into tonight, his FIP with Cleveland was 5.89

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 10:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Woah, one of us is using a bad source.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 24, 2008 10:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fielding Independent Pitching. It tries to control for luck on Balls in Play (BIP).

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 10:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks, though I have no idea how that is done or why it may beneficial. So long as it’s good I guess, then I am happy.

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 10:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Because ERA, like a lot of stats, doesn’t tell as much as it seems.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 24, 2008 10:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

from Hardball Times:

“Fielding Independent Pitching, a measure of all those things for which a pitcher is specifically responsible. The formula is (HR*13+(BB+HBP-IBB)*3-K*2)/IP, plus a league-specific factor (usually around 3.2) to round out the number to an equivalent ERA number. FIP helps you understand how well a pitcher pitched, regardless of how well his fielders fielded. FIP was invented by Tangotiger.”

by APV on Aug 24, 2008 10:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The numbers they choose to multiply by seem arbitrary, as well as the final number that is added on. I’m sure the better pitchers will have a better FIP, but I doubt that the statistic can be used as a definitive indication of how good a pitcher actually is, though I’m sure there are other stats that can do that more accurately. It’s interesting nonetheless.

by obobcatu on Aug 24, 2008 10:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s pretty good. I can’t off the top of my head defend that as un-arbitrary, but you can pretty solidly trust the work of Tangotiger and the people who vouch for him (THT among others).

Lookout Landing has really champions tRA, which seems nice.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 24, 2008 10:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

has really championed, should say.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 24, 2008 10:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

xFIP is the more complex one, but this actually works much better than ERA.

The numbers are not arbitrary.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Aug 24, 2008 10:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs