Game Thread: August 27, 2008
Cleveland Indians at Detroit Tigers, Aug 27, 2008 7:05 PM EDT
Cleveland at Detroit, 7:05 PM (STO)
Since the All-Star Break, the Indians as a team are hitting .276/.355/.475; they hit .250/.323/.402 before. That, in a nutshell, explains the difference in records, since the overall pitching has been about a half-run worse (with both the starters and relievers being worse). The promising aspect of this offensive improvement is that it isn't due to getting an injured player back (Martinez and Hafner are still out), but improvements in the offensive games of virtually all its young players, from Gutierrez to Garko to Cabrera.
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So when do we start thinking about cutting/optioning Mujica (not sure if he has options left). I was a staunch defender of his last year but I’m really starting to think the guy just kind of blows. Unfortunately, really.
I’m watching Eastern Promises and so far it’s not impressing.
I’m only 4 10 minutes in but I’m not sold.
Well, Vigo just showed up. And he looks pretty cool with that haircut.
It’s so-so, I remember constantly waiting for something momentous to happen but it just sort of chugged along the same emotional vein, it felt flat throughout. The scene in the spa is kinda cool though.
Remember when people used to say Grady and Granderson were, like, the same? I bet they feel dumb now.
ok, thanks. i still feel safe loathing dd
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 27, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Justin Verlander: case study #11386 in why you shouldn’t let your young pitchers pitch too much (nervously eyeing Fausto Carmona)
Grady!!!
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on Aug 27, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions
o/t
does Barack Obama being officially nominated count as breaking news? Shouldn’t “breaking” news suggest something unexpected….and not painfully orchestrated over a gazillion weeks?
This just in: Autumn scheduled to start on September 22. Details soon.
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In Cliff we trust.
by vbc3 on Aug 27, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and even if this is “breaking” news…doesn’t he officially accept the nomination TOMORROW anyways? i hate the news media—except for maury povich, that is.
oh, and president lincoln was shot. want to make sure everyone’s up to speed…
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 27, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t look at THIS or you’ll want to gouge your eyes out with a pencil. (it’s the salaries of the people on the Hills show.)
did hammy just say that the Tigers have been the epitome of an inconsistent club? that makes us…, what?
just turned on the radio to catch that last inning, I’m still wondering what the fuck just happened
Fausto makes me feel like I did something to deserve this
Go Kelly
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on Aug 27, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions
Wow. Garko’s OBP drops 20 points if you take away his HBPs and replace them with hits and outs (equal to his batting average). That would make his line .255/.305/.371. Awesome first baseman.
i sent two emails, made one phone call, and started a Hansen’s Kiwi Strawberry Soda. that Coldplay song also popped into my head and won’t get out. that pretty much gets you up to speed…
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 27, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I do not get rhubarb. My mom grows it every year. It exists solely to have sugar added to it.
by fleerdon on Aug 27, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
i have no idea what rhubarb is, but it really is a delicious pie ingredient
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 27, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
The key to rhubarb pie is to pair it with a another berry or fruit. If you think rhubarb pie is good, wait till you have some strawberry-rhubarb pie. Much better.
Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...
by woodsmeister on Aug 28, 2008 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of Garko. I know he’s been a good receiver over at first, but I feel as though he’s not coming within a carlength of balls to his left or right.
by fleerdon on Aug 27, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Looch sends a bouncer to short, it was a close play at first, he appeared to beat it out
by millionairesrow on Aug 27, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
but Looch gets the benefit of the suck, which is like the opposite of the benefit of the doubt. when it’s close, it goes against Looch, b/c he’s so bad he can’t be expected to do anything right or well.
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 27, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Odd Google Image Result

LAME
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
Most underrated pitcher in baseball: Josh Johnson.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
So Underwood is giving Wedge credit for the team playing hard even though they’re out of the race, but not giving him any of the blame for the team being out of the race in the first place? Really?
by millionairesrow on Aug 27, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions
I think the credit is warranted. If you look at the splits, Wedge’s clubs are usually very solid down the stretch of a season. You can make the argument that it takes him a couple months to find out how to correctly fit the useful pieces together, then bench or sparingly use the superfluous players. For all his transgressions concerning Marte, I think Wedge is a really good manager, at least relative to most other team’s managers.
/reality check
he’s a really good manager after the first couple of months of feeling things out you mean…so he’s a really good manager only after all the meaningful games have been played and mostly lost.
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 27, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re faulting him for something he cannot really control. Which is, he doesn’t have the prescience to know who will be the next ’07 Perez or the next Oldberto/FCab. He cannot predict whether a player will become ’08 Shoppach or ’08 Dellucci. He is given a limited amount of options, and to determine which options are best he must let them play first. Managing, in the Shapiro system of obtaining non-organization groomed players to fill certain holes, is a process of trial and error. Wedge does wonderfully when you limit your critiques to things he can control. (Except bullpen management. wtf is he thinking tonight.)
I can’t agree with you:
Faltered badly down the stretch in ’04.
Spit the bit at the end of ’05.
Stunk up the joint in ‘06. (I’ve expunged that fall out of my memory.)
Great finish in ’07.
by JulioBernazard on Aug 27, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
That does it. Jamey, you’re on third tomorrow.
by SuddenSam on Aug 27, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Wedge: Wow, nice play Andy!
Jamey: I’m growin’ a beard coach!
Wedge: You sure are little fella, come sit in my lap
by Fios on Aug 27, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
best reliever, for 2 batters, in the 7th inning? wtf?
by ASP on Aug 27, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
It’s like Marte is spinning that bullpen wheel of fortune, only his options, regardless of his performance, are pulled for pinch hitter or benched due to lack of grittiness.
Maybe SSS to put him in, but why take him out with those numbers?
by supermarioelia on Aug 27, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Gut as DH… that makes perfect sense.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
Yeah pretty questionable. Unless we’re prepared to lose the DH in the 8th.
by supermarioelia on Aug 27, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
More for the fact we can’t use him in the field now.
by supermarioelia on Aug 27, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
is it just me, or are the indians having a tough time catching the ball this inning?
Kevin @ Black Shoe Diaries
uh oh, its Farnsworth! (snicker, snicker).
"I think people should be allowed to do anything they want. We haven't tried that for a while. Maybe this time it'll work." -George Carlin
by RD74 on Aug 27, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Blake homered today – in a losing effort.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
That wasn’t in the script
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on Aug 27, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply actions
Can you put yourself into a save situation? I feel like if you enter in a non-save situation & give up a run or two, you won’t get a save out of it, though someone else could come in in relief & then get the save.
Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.
I’m trying to figure out how to query baseball-reference for this info, but I wonder if there’s ever been a team that’s lost 10 in a row and won 10 in a row in the same season.
Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.
2007 Mets? maybe?
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
According to BB-ref, their longest winning and losing streaks were each 5 games.
Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.
The 1982 Braves opened the season with 13 wins. Later they suffered a horrendous losing streak, after they took Chief Nok-a-Homa’s tent down for additional seating. I think it was more then ten. Anyway, they put the teepee back, the steak ended, and they won the division.
Wow, nice. Where’d you come up with that one? This says they won 13 in a row and lost 11 in a row (and somehow won their division with an 89-73 record; there’s hope for us yet!)
Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.
from CastroTurf
The Indians have a current nine-game winning streak less than two months after a 10-game losing streak this year. The last Major League team with a winning and losing streak of 10 games or more in the same season, according to Elias Sports Bureau, was the 2004 Tampa Bay Rays, who won 12 in a row and one point and lost 12 in a row at another point. The Indians did it in 1979 and 1931.
Yeah BALLGAME
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on Aug 27, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions
Hope for the White Sox to get swept by the Red Sox and take 2/3 with Seattle. Then we can pretend like athe next series with the White Sox means something.
Ever since that bullpen implosion against the Rays, the Indians are now 16-3.
In those 19 games, they have scored 109 (!) runs.
i got drinks with chuck klosterman last night
by Gradyforpresident on Aug 28, 2008 2:45 PM EDT reply actions

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