Hafner "Stalled"

Not a setback but stalled.

Whatever.

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I hear Shapiro and Wedge have an “aspirational timeline” for his return

by APV on Aug 27, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions

This is a fun quote:

Soloff said the soreness is the result of Hafner adding game activity to his rehab schedule.

Well thank god it’s only that! It sounded serious for a second!

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 27, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply actions

Have you been tracking this story? Hafner’s shoulder evaporated, and the Indians have been regrowing it hydroponically. Or something. We’re not really sure.

You planning on sticking around after we take Brantley? You seem to like it here.

by fleerdon on Aug 27, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions

I heard it was ovarian cancer of the shoulder.

by KevinV on Aug 28, 2008 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions

But seriously, how much more serious is “game activity” than batting practice? We know he has been taking BP off and on for a while.

by bewwolv on Aug 27, 2008 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions

especially for a DH

by Brick. on Aug 28, 2008 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions

Martinez “in low gear.”
Barfield “applying parking brake.”
Miller “on cinder blocks.”

by fleerdon on Aug 27, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply actions

“in low gear”= will be back this year
“applying parking brake”=avoiding him coming up at all, because we don’t care
“on cinder blocks”=no real expectation of major league performance

by bewwolv on Aug 27, 2008 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions

I am so over Proon now. I would rather have one of our fourth OF’ers or Shoppach DH next year. Just do a rotating DH with our bench players.

by Toxicadam on Aug 28, 2008 12:53 AM EDT reply actions

I too am largely unconcerned about Hafner. I believe that the offense will make huge strides this year and next with or without him. The health of Choo, the emergence of Shoppach, the acquisition of
Laporta, the improvement in Sizemore, the overall quality of the outfield, the Peralta power surge, the tentative resurfacing of Gutz and Garko and ’Droobs (who will soon be followed by Martinez) all make Hafner pretty forgettable.

Shoot, just having Choo back is more significant that I had ever imagined.

When things were at their worst this season, I don’t recall any of us saying, “man, if only we had Hafner back”. It’s more like, “man, I wish our bullpen didn’t blow.” Or, “man, we really need Martinez back and some of these other guys ’better start hitting.”

I am still a big fan of platooning, and I think that what Toxicadam posted in another thread about the future looking a lot more like an amalgam of Ben Francisco-types is spot on. Platoons work best, I think, when we’re able to make in-game substitutions and rotate PAs in and out of the DH spot. If Hafner is anything less than a slightly-above average hitter in that spot, then we’re better off without him.

by jhon on Aug 28, 2008 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions

(1) I think the jury is still out on the resurfacing of Gutierrez, Garko and Asdrubal.
(2) As we learned in 2008, it’s not always wise to count on continued improvement. So maybe Shoppach isn’t going to be as good in 2009.
(3) Even after posting insane offensive numbers for the past 20 games, Tribe is tenth in RS, with 646 runs. The MLB average is 614.

by odradek on Aug 28, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions

quality of OF is still below contender level, and if we have to have Francisco, Choo AND Gutz playing everyday because one of them is rotating in at DH, well, that’s not good. I’d really only want one of them playing at a time. The answer certainly has to do with LaPorta and hopefully has to do with a off season ML acquisition.

by Ryan Kelsey on Aug 28, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions

THE FANS WILL NEVER STAND FOR DH BY COMMITTEE

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Aug 28, 2008 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions

It’s preferable to Dellucci.

by obobcatu on Aug 28, 2008 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions

It’d be nice to send Dellucci somewhere else, because Choo is making him a little redundant and he’s not much of a defender anymore, but the ‘Looch is not that bad. Really, he’s not.

by jhon on Aug 28, 2008 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions

I guess you ate the blue pill then.

by obobcatu on Aug 28, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions

DH BY COMMITTEE DID NOTHING WRONG!!

Proud supporter of the Cleveland.

by Brad D on Aug 28, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions

sunk. cost.

by Brick. on Aug 28, 2008 9:45 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs

Also, when the injury went down I cynically believed it was a false injury designed to get him in Buffalo for a while. Turns out it’s very real.

Also, is there a good word for “feigning injury for convenience”? I can’t think of any at the moment. The Germans undoubtedly have a very good word for this concept.

by jhon on Aug 28, 2008 1:35 PM EDT reply actions

"feigning injury for convenience"

Just ask any footballer (soccer player) for what they call this.

by talonk on Aug 28, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Isn’t that a “Manny”?

by ganatz on Aug 28, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions

whining?

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Aug 28, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Diving. Did I win a prize?

Proud supporter of the Cleveland.

by Brad D on Aug 28, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions

Winner, winner! Chicken dinner!

(Watched 21 the other night. What an awful movie.)

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 29, 2008 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions

Someone told me they had an MGMT song in the movie, which is neat. I still have no plans of seeing it.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 30, 2008 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions

There is and MGMT song in the movie, but you’re right not to waste you’re time watching it. The soundtrack’s available on Amazon.com.

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Sep 2, 2008 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions

Boyz, boyz, boyz, it’s called malingering. Mario, I’m disappointed.

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Aug 29, 2008 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions

wb chuck, been a while since you’ve been around these parts.

by talonk on Aug 29, 2008 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions

Germans seem not to have a word for this. Munchhausen of course, but otherwise they have to use English. The word derives from the French, malingre, for sickly.

by odradek on Aug 29, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Boy, those French, they have a different word for everything! – Steve Martin.

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 29, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Jack Cust for 09 DH!!

by rockemsockem on Aug 28, 2008 11:54 PM EDT reply actions

Cust and Shoppach would be the ultimate all-or-nothing combo. Pull the trigger!

by obobcatu on Aug 29, 2008 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions

Kelly Shoppach!
Jack Cust!
Adam Dunn!

We’ll score 11 runs on Monday, 0 on Tuesday!

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 29, 2008 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions

Could probably pick up Wily Mo Pena on the cheap as well….

by hans on Aug 29, 2008 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions

Russell Branyan!!!

by peter m on Aug 29, 2008 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions

Can a single team K 2,000 times in a season? We’d find out.

by jhon on Aug 29, 2008 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions

If the Tigers can score 1000 runs, why not? (We could keep Grady — he’d contribute).

by peter m on Aug 29, 2008 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions

Here’s news of a trade that might affect the Indians’ chances of getting those 2000 K’s!!

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3559308

by peter m on Aug 29, 2008 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions

On that note, Tigers have socred 669 runs so far this season. They only have to average 11.4 runs a game over the rest of the season to hit the 1000 run mark.

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 29, 2008 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions