Game Thread: August 30, 2008
Seattle Mariners @ Cleveland Indians
Seattle at Cleveland, 3:55 PM (WTAM)
No TV today; the game was originally scheduled as a FOX game, but since neither team is in contention for a playoff spot, the game was dropped from the broadcast schedule.
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CF Grady Sizemore,
RF Franklin Gutierrez,
DH Ben Francisco,
SS Jhonny Peralta,
1B Ryan Garko,
LF Shin-Soo Choo,
C Kelly Shoppach,
3B Andy Marte,
2B Asdrubal Cabrera.
by Toxicadam on
Aug 30, 2008 3:26 PM EDT
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So how many at-bats will Marte get before Vitcor pinch-hits for him? 2?
by Ryan on
Aug 30, 2008 3:35 PM EDT
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I think losing anonymous Gonzalez may save Marte a few more AB’s.
by Toxicadam on
Aug 30, 2008 4:01 PM EDT
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ABs? None. Bunts won’t count.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on
Aug 30, 2008 4:03 PM EDT
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That commercial with drunk drivers who are surrounded by alcohol in their cars is disgusting. Especially the motorcyclists with beer in his helmet.
by afh4 on
Aug 30, 2008 3:45 PM EDT
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Driving while drowning. Not OK.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on
Aug 30, 2008 3:52 PM EDT
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agreed.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Aug 30, 2008 4:15 PM EDT
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No love for Grady? Or is it just that we expect him to get XBH to lead off games?
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on
Aug 30, 2008 4:08 PM EDT
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Hamilton do you have to get so excited about their double play?
by afh4 on
Aug 30, 2008 4:10 PM EDT
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i started cheering before i realized what he was saying
by c9kay32 on
Aug 30, 2008 4:11 PM EDT
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There are small advantages to having to watch on Game Cast.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on
Aug 30, 2008 4:12 PM EDT
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Hamilton saying that Vizquel is thinking of playing in Japan next year, portraying it as some kind of cultural exchange project
by afh4 on
Aug 30, 2008 4:13 PM EDT
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You get to play Whiffle Ball with Cliff Lee this year, not Grady.
Some 8 year old is going to get his ass up around his shoulders.
by afh4 on
Aug 30, 2008 4:19 PM EDT
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Here’s some sage advice: Do not fuck with the Cliffinator.
Resident LGT beer kinda sewer
by mauichuck on
Aug 30, 2008 4:23 PM EDT
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In the ad he challenges us: “You think you can hit my rise ball?”
No, Cliff. No I do not.
by afh4 on
Aug 30, 2008 4:26 PM EDT
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My new nickname for Garko is “Outs.” Ryan “Outs” Garko.
by afh4 on
Aug 30, 2008 4:20 PM EDT
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Is there any argument for batting Francisco that much higher than Choo?
Isn’t Choo a demonstrably better hitter?
by afh4 on
Aug 30, 2008 4:21 PM EDT
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Hamilton saying Choo confirmed that unless something changes he’ll have to return to Korea to serve.
by afh4 on
Aug 30, 2008 4:21 PM EDT
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Though apparently he can avoid it if he moves to America full time. But he doesn’t want to do that.
by afh4 on
Aug 30, 2008 4:22 PM EDT
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Well. I don’t care that Shoppach got gunned.
MArTE
ARMTE
RAMTE
TERAM
by afh4 on
Aug 30, 2008 4:25 PM EDT
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Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Aug 30, 2008 4:25 PM EDT
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Skinner strikes again. Sigh.
Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.
by zempf on
Aug 30, 2008 4:26 PM EDT
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How close was the play at the plate? Was it crazy to send him with two outs?
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on
Aug 30, 2008 4:27 PM EDT
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Hamilton said it was a great through by Yuniesky.
by afh4 on
Aug 30, 2008 4:28 PM EDT
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Thanks. Just want to know how much to hate Skinner, today.
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by Denver Tribe Fan on
Aug 30, 2008 4:31 PM EDT
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I was at the game today. It was a pretty close play. Shoppach got a horrible jump on a ball hit with 2 outs, or he’d have been safe.
by Fundamentals on
Aug 30, 2008 11:30 PM EDT
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Rockin’ a .645 OPS in August, which is.. I guess better than earlier in the year. Or something.
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by zempf on
Aug 30, 2008 4:29 PM EDT
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What is a Tug Hulett?
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by Denver Tribe Fan on
Aug 30, 2008 4:31 PM EDT
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Hammy has the Indians playing the Rangers for a few minutes
by palcal on
Aug 30, 2008 4:31 PM EDT
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wasn’t it hegan that said that?
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Aug 30, 2008 4:51 PM EDT
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Jeremy Reed was once considered Coco Crisp’s equal. What a joke.
by afh4 on
Aug 30, 2008 4:36 PM EDT
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Three innings and not scoring a run against Washburn is pretty crappy.
by Toxicadam on
Aug 30, 2008 4:47 PM EDT
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Three innings and scoring one run against Reyes is pretty crappy.
by afh4 on
Aug 30, 2008 4:52 PM EDT
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We’re making Washburn look like Clifton.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Aug 30, 2008 4:58 PM EDT
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If he was REALLY good he would’ve hit it far enough for Shoppach to score. Clearly he sucks.
Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.
by zempf on
Aug 30, 2008 5:01 PM EDT
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Anthony Reyes gameday picture makes him look like a failed surfer that turned to baseball.

by afh4 on
Aug 30, 2008 5:03 PM EDT
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Now this is the ‘08 offense I’ve come to know and beat my head against the wall in response to.
by Logodaedalus on
Aug 30, 2008 5:32 PM EDT
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I was beginning to fear that we’d never see each other again…
by Logodaedalus on
Aug 30, 2008 5:35 PM EDT
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WTF!? I went away and expected to return with us up by a few. We aren’t really going to lose a series to the Ms after a 10 game winning streak, are we?
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on
Aug 30, 2008 5:45 PM EDT
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Welcome to 2008, sir.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Aug 30, 2008 5:47 PM EDT
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The catch was just okay, but it was amazing to watch. Gutz was going toward the rail and was trying to stop himself while leaning over the rail at the same time. He catches the ball, loses balance and falls over the rail. Impressive, but what was better was Asdrubal, seeing what is happening, grabs on to Gutz’ ankles, trying to hold him up. Finally, Asdrubal gives up as Gutz falls over the rail into the stands. Great play to see.
by Fundamentals on
Aug 30, 2008 11:33 PM EDT
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Brett Myers and Ted Lilly are putting on a breaking pitch clinic.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Aug 30, 2008 5:47 PM EDT
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me too
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Aug 30, 2008 5:48 PM EDT
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this was in response to DrFaustus
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Aug 30, 2008 5:52 PM EDT
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YAYYYYYYYYYY
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Aug 30, 2008 5:52 PM EDT
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I sure hope I’m getting time machined.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on
Aug 30, 2008 5:55 PM EDT
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Apparently not.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on
Aug 30, 2008 5:56 PM EDT
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it was in response to Washburn getting yanked.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Aug 30, 2008 6:18 PM EDT
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Let’s have steals #35 and 36, and for good measure, why not 37, right here.
by Logodaedalus on
Aug 30, 2008 6:14 PM EDT
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Yeah, let’s have win #66 instead.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on
Aug 30, 2008 6:17 PM EDT
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this game is painful to listen to.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Aug 30, 2008 6:18 PM EDT
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This season is painful to live through.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on
Aug 30, 2008 6:19 PM EDT
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I like Tug Hulett because his name is a command
by Logodaedalus on
Aug 30, 2008 6:23 PM EDT
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Marte is the only Indian who hasn’t struck out today.
by palcal on
Aug 30, 2008 6:25 PM EDT
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You made him feel left out, apparently
by Logodaedalus on
Aug 30, 2008 6:39 PM EDT
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A trademark Choo-bagger right here would be nice…
by Logodaedalus on
Aug 30, 2008 6:34 PM EDT
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Apparently I just need to ask for things, and then I’ll get something better.
by Logodaedalus on
Aug 30, 2008 6:35 PM EDT
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Is that you, Super Nintendo Chalmers?
by Logodaedalus on
Aug 30, 2008 6:49 PM EDT
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GO TRIBE!!
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on
Aug 30, 2008 6:34 PM EDT
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CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"...leading the league in most offensive categories. Including nose hairs."
by sarcasmdave on
Aug 30, 2008 6:34 PM EDT
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Marte gets to bat in a walk-off situation
by palcal on
Aug 30, 2008 6:38 PM EDT
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“The Indians have not had a walk-off home run this year at Progressive field”
It would be hard to have a walk-off home run on the road, wouldn’t it?
by Logodaedalus on
Aug 30, 2008 6:38 PM EDT
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took the words out of my mouth.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Aug 30, 2008 6:41 PM EDT
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heehee
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Aug 30, 2008 6:42 PM EDT
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ugh. Choo just delayed the inevitable.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Aug 30, 2008 6:42 PM EDT
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I predict that Roberto Hernandez comes back to strike out the side in the 10th, and then Mike Rouse hits a pinch hit walk off HR.
by Logodaedalus on
Aug 30, 2008 6:45 PM EDT
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Let’s Go Tribe!
Bullpen Battle vs. Seattle. To be perfectly honest, I like our odds.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on
Aug 30, 2008 6:44 PM EDT
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Has Choo earned his spot next year yet?
by JRontherim on
Aug 30, 2008 6:48 PM EDT
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I guess I respect the guy for showing commitment to his home land, but that is quite odd he doesn’t just want to take the easy way out and become an American citizen.
by JRontherim on
Aug 30, 2008 6:52 PM EDT
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Undoubtedly. He get’s on base at a strong clip. The only guy with a higher OBP is Grady. Granted, Choo only has 225ABs. And he’s hitting for power. And he plays great defense. And he plays the strong side of a platoon.
by xrickx on
Aug 30, 2008 6:53 PM EDT
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And he plays great alright defense
There, fixed.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Aug 30, 2008 6:59 PM EDT
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Shoppach is going to have to gun down Ichiro.
by xrickx on
Aug 30, 2008 6:49 PM EDT
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This is… precarious.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on
Aug 30, 2008 6:49 PM EDT
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I hate Rauel Ibanez
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on
Aug 30, 2008 6:50 PM EDT
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Yeah, he sucks. His brother Raul is pretty good though.
by Logodaedalus on
Aug 30, 2008 6:51 PM EDT
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I REALLY HATE RAUL IBANEZ.
COME ON!!
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by gte619n on
Aug 30, 2008 6:51 PM EDT
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I hate Eric Wedge. Lefties Ichiro, Reed, (then righty Beltre), then lefty Ibanez. And Rafael Perez is not pitching?
by xrickx on
Aug 30, 2008 6:51 PM EDT
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Lewis = not as good in non-save situations, apparently
by Logodaedalus on
Aug 30, 2008 6:51 PM EDT
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I also hate the University of Michigan.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on
Aug 30, 2008 6:52 PM EDT
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I was lead to believe that Jensen can’t Lose. What the hell?
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by gte619n on
Aug 30, 2008 6:52 PM EDT
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Aaron Laffey getting rocked.
Something’s wrong.
by afh4 on
Aug 30, 2008 6:53 PM EDT
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Shut him down. What’s the problem?
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by gte619n on
Aug 30, 2008 6:54 PM EDT
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Can someone tell me what just happened? Beltre got drilled?
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by gte619n on
Aug 30, 2008 6:54 PM EDT
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Apparently the batted ball hit Beltre. And how Wedge is ejected?
by xrickx on
Aug 30, 2008 6:55 PM EDT
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He was arguing that it should have been called interference by the runner, resulting in a double play.
by Logodaedalus on
Aug 30, 2008 6:56 PM EDT
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Was it a DP ball?
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by gte619n on
Aug 30, 2008 6:56 PM EDT
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Hammy and Hegan are convinced it would have been, had it not hit the runner. I didn’t see it, obviously.
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Aug 30, 2008 6:57 PM EDT
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It was a DP ball. Beltre slowed up in the basepath to get hit by the ball and prevent the double play that would have occurred. It was an easy DP ball. A smart play and a good risk to take by Beltre.
by Fundamentals on
Aug 30, 2008 11:37 PM EDT
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sure sounds like it
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Aug 30, 2008 7:00 PM EDT
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Did the umpires have the authority to rule it a DP?
by Voltaire on
Aug 31, 2008 12:06 AM EDT
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thanks, that’s what I was wondering at the park.
I also wanted to hit the guys behind me who thought Peralta booted the ball.
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Aug 31, 2008 12:59 AM EDT
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Culbreth is kind of a dick.
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by gte619n on
Aug 30, 2008 6:55 PM EDT
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Well he can’t be good every day. It will be telling to see if he can bounce back from this.
by Logodaedalus on
Aug 30, 2008 6:56 PM EDT
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He is rapidly becoming the Ben Francisco of the bullpen.
I crave the approval of others.
by fwembt on
Aug 30, 2008 10:07 PM EDT
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That deadly Jamie Burke/ Tug Hulett combo is just too much to hold down for 9 innings.
by xrickx on
Aug 30, 2008 6:56 PM EDT
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Well…Top of the order coming up. We’ll see.
by JRontherim on
Aug 30, 2008 6:57 PM EDT
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weeeeeeelllll….
Let’s go Tribe.
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by gte619n on
Aug 30, 2008 6:58 PM EDT
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Big picture: Reyes threw well today.
Bigger picture: It was against the Mariners, who are 1.5 games away from being the worst team in MLB.
Bigger Big picture: Baseball’s funny. The worst team beats baseball’s hottest team.
by xrickx on
Aug 30, 2008 6:59 PM EDT
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RUN RUN RUN
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Aug 30, 2008 7:01 PM EDT
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LETS GO TRIBE!!!
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by gte619n on
Aug 30, 2008 7:02 PM EDT
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Grady and Choo might be too good for this team.
by JRontherim on
Aug 30, 2008 7:02 PM EDT
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31-34-31…. sounds like…. blouse measurements or something
by Logodaedalus on
Aug 30, 2008 7:03 PM EDT
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Ryan Garko can make up for his entire season right here.
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Aug 30, 2008 7:06 PM EDT
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Really? You forgive easy.
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by gte619n on
Aug 30, 2008 7:08 PM EDT
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Fat Shortstop rocks it.
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by gte619n on
Aug 30, 2008 7:07 PM EDT
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I’m not sure after two months off that Victor is the best choice for a pinch-hitting appearance. But I never doubt Vic. Summoning Kirk Gibson.
by xrickx on
Aug 30, 2008 7:09 PM EDT
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I tend to agree… Their best shot is a homer here, which Victor hasn’t provided this year. Garko, on the other hand, has been known to flash some power now and then. Then again, he might be more likely to just get on and give BLC a chance.
by Logodaedalus on
Aug 30, 2008 7:11 PM EDT
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Yea, Garko is slugging .372 on the year, so I’m not sure he’s the power bat we’re looking for either.
by xrickx on
Aug 30, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
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Basically, the M’s have just called in generic AAAA reliever to close this game out.
by xrickx on
Aug 30, 2008 7:12 PM EDT
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Messenger was pretty good at one point, to be fair.
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Aug 30, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
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No. He had a low ERA over 23 innings, in which he gave up more hits than innings pitched and sported a 9/12 BB/K ratio. He was lucky at one point for 23 innings during the course of a season that included 40.2 other innings in which he sported an ERA over 5.
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Aug 30, 2008 7:15 PM EDT
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Eh. I’m in the Giants market, granted his numbers were terrible here, but I go to their games quite a bit just because its close, he looked pretty solid from time to time. Then terrible other times.
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Aug 30, 2008 7:16 PM EDT
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I don’t doubt he had decent games here and there, but the guy threw 140 innings in a Giants uniform, gave up 170 hits, with an ERA near 5.50 and a 65BB/100K ratio, approximately.
He’s kind of like Tom Mastny over just under twice the innings—-there were bright spots (I think I remember 5 saves at the end of the 2006 season and a playoff appearance in 2007), but other than that, the opposition had his number.
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Aug 30, 2008 7:23 PM EDT
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Generic AAAA reliever: 1. Indians 0.
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Aug 30, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
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I was at the game. It was thrilling and sucky.
Random thoughts:
1. I think Marte may really suck.
2. Choooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
3. Is Reyes for real? Maybe.
by Voltaire on
Aug 31, 2008 12:01 AM EDT
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mlb.com has video highlights of Gutz and CHoo.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
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Aug 31, 2008 1:36 AM EDT
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