Game Thread: September 10, 2008
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Jamey Carroll at 3B again. After Marte got two hits last night. And the opposing pitcher is a lefty. Super!
Hey, let’s get seriouSLewis now. It’s a big night.
by fleerdon on Sep 10, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
That would have to be some serious sparkLewising.
by fleerdon on Sep 10, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m turning into a bit of a Zachson fan. I think a good off-season could make a respectable starter of him yet. I remain higher on him than on Reyes.
by fleerdon on Sep 10, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Though just so we’re clear, I like the Reyes pick-up quite a bit.
by fleerdon on Sep 10, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I still wish a guy who was 6’5" threw harder than 89-90 mph. I know I’m obsessing about this….but we’re collecting a lot of guys with those mean 88-91 mph fastballs. I just think in the context of a baseball series you want to throw a little more diversity at the opponents.
That’s a good point. The contrast may actually be more important than the absolute advantage of having a 95 mph fastball.
by Logodaedalus on Sep 10, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s difficult to argue against, but at some point, you play the cards in your hand, no? If they’re throwing strikes, well, let’s have ’em. Anyway, Lee-Laffey-Sowers-Jackson-SLewis would be the bane of the Yankees and the Reds.
by fleerdon on Sep 10, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t have anything against JZ — he’s pitched well enough — but just hypothetically, suppose Lewis pitches a CG shutout. It’d be hard to just say, “Thanks very much, you’re done”, wouldn’t it?
But maybe giving Reyes some more time off would be more likely than skipping Jackson.
by Logodaedalus on Sep 10, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
So how’s SLewie look?
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
12 pitches, 8 strikes, 3 weak outs. Perfect through one!
by fleerdon on Sep 10, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Still, he’s making them swing. Against the Orioles, I consider that sound strategy.
by fleerdon on Sep 10, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
J Peralta vs J Peralta is the best.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
Well, push comes to shove, I vote for Nukem v. Proton, but I take your point.
by fleerdon on Sep 10, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Why is Jamie Carroll playing?
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
Marte drove in a run. He was probably fined.
by SuddenSam on Sep 10, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I went to the game. My entire section hated me and I loved every minute of it. We even corrupted tOSU’s favorite cheer, you know, the one where the entire stadium goes O-H-I-O. OU people would shout U after the last O each time they did it so it would read O-H-I-O-U. It was so cool, lol.
Great!
I spent three years at OU in the late 70s and have a fondness for the place. OSU’s appropriation of “Ohio” is right up there with the pretentious “The.” Can you imagine Michigan State doing the Script Michigan?
I can’t imagine Michigan State being able to spell Michigan, let alone script it in formation on the football field.
ZINGER!!!
Pinch-hitting Carroll for Marte at this point in the season is inexcusable. I’ve had it with Wedge. He’s a younger, paler Dusty Baker.
Having met a lot of MSU alums over the last few years, my view of the place has softened. There are some ridiculously bright Michigan residents that U of M more or less gives the finger to, let alone out-of-staters. The fact that MSU is something of the school for what Ann Arbor considers the chaff of its applicant crop says a lot more about Michigan than it does about MSU.
by fleerdon on Sep 11, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
how is it? I’ve actually been on a major classic gaming kick lately, playing through the original Zelda and a bunch of SNES games I always wanted as a kid.
Not watching the Indians much these days has definitely freed up my evenings.
Mechwarrior 3050 (GIANT ROBOT SMASH) and the Mega Man X series. I’ll probably tackle Chrono Trigger after the playoffs.
It ends up being a lot like Civilization or something. It’s not not fun but it’s not as biology driven as I (a biology major) would’ve liked.
This is great, I’m commenting from my passenger seat in my school parking lot, listening on the radio.
by fleerdon on Sep 10, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions
So I liked Lowell before he was on Boston and kind of wish we had a slick-fielding 3B who was a solid line drive hitter. And I’ve always liked Wakefield, in part because Boston jerked him around for so long.
Lowell wasn’t much of a slick-fielding, line-drive-hitting 3B for the Marlins. The Bosox got him because they needed to take his salary, and voila he rehabilitates when he gets to Boston. David Ortiz is kind of the same way.
I see we have our Olympic 4×100 meter relay team of Peralta, Martinez, Shoppach, and Garko batting 4-5-6-7.
Still an Ohio boy through and through!
by TribeLoverInNewYork on Sep 10, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions
Droobs is awesome
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Sep 10, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
He’s given up some decent fly balls, but nothing to really complain about. He’s been significantly better than I was expecting.
by Fundamentals on Sep 10, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Really relies on fastball command. Changeup looks good. Breaking ball hasn’t been anything special. It hasn’t been close enough to the strike zone to get hitters to chase. Tries to work both side of the plate with the fastball, so that’s encouraging. Definitely a “pitcher.” WWill be interesting to see how he responds the first few times after he gets roughed up—-does he becomes a nibbler a la Sowers? or does he trust his stuff, maintain the gameplan, and let his defense do the work?
His AA/AAA numbers look nice. He’s already had the requisite TJ surgery. If he gets a few more starts and looks decent, is he a keeper on the ML roster, Columbus-bound, or trade bait as part of a package? I admit to being torn, having been so wrong on Gutz, Garko and others.
Columbus with very little doubt. He doesn’t break camp with the big league club unless a number of unfortunate things happen.
by fleerdon on Sep 10, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
STOP HITTING LAPORTA. DAMNIT.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
laporta is like a way younger and way better ryan garko
by Gradyforpresident on Sep 10, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Hating Jamey Carroll is the new loving Andy Marte.
by fleerdon on Sep 10, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m really glad we’re giving Jamie Carroll and extended audition to see if he can fit in as our utility infielder next season. That’s what’s really important.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
by gte619n on Sep 10, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wedge firmly believes that it is possible to get Carroll 170 atbats over the rest of the season to let him set a career high. This is my working explanation.
by supermarioelia on Sep 10, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
drubs is no fucking joke folks. i said we had our very own young robbie alomar like a week ago and andrew said it was hogwash. and i had 100 at bats left for droobs to significantly improve his OPS+. and he’s really helping me out.
QUIZ: how much have i had to drink tonight
by Gradyforpresident on Sep 10, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions
Depends — are you legal yet? What year is this for you?
by fleerdon on Sep 10, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
We’re not facebook friends, dude. What do you want from me?
Anyway, 23? I’m going with cold sober.
by fleerdon on Sep 10, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
i want … i want … i want a friend request. :(
by Gradyforpresident on Sep 10, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
You’ll get one, as soon as you quit your snivelling.
by fleerdon on Sep 10, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
HIT A BOMB
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
That was NOT a bomb. Sigh. Luckily Marte’s up.. oh wait.
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I don’t know why, but I love Frankie.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
I’m getting mentally prepared for our Braves outing next week.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
Ken said he’s in. No word from the JBeckett fella.
Ken must have just replied to me.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
Warblade, I believe?
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
Where the players play.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
Exactly. Perhaps he’s crafting a Tolstoy-esque Tomb of a response and is just in editing.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
What the hell happened there? Either he got the worst jump ever or he’s the slowest man alive.
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Milton Bradley and Dustin Pedroia are tied for the batting title. This is extremely vexing.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
You know, I’d probably like Pedroia if he wasn’t on the Red Sox.
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com -- just in case.
Without his baseball skills, Pedroia would be one of those guys who your friends actively discourage you from inviting out.
by Fios on Sep 10, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
There can’t be many names cooler than “Randor Bierd”…
I am Randor Bierd! Fear me, for I am Randor Bierd!
Shoppach is equal-opportunity with the homers there. Damn.
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com -- just in case.
Whatever, he’s totally ignored centerfield thus far. Dead center always gets the shaft.
by PatBordersHelmet on Sep 10, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Victor Victor Victor
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
Add “Kelly Shoppach hits 20 home runs” to the list of things that, if you’d told me them at the beginning of the year, I probably wouldn’t have believed. (Well, he’s at 19 right now, but I’m sure 20 is on its way sooner or later)
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com -- just in case.
That’s why they’re called buSLewisness socks!
by Fundamentals on Sep 10, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I was looking at this today. He and Blake have basically had opposite years.
by fleerdon on Sep 10, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Blake, by the way, has reverted to shrugblech.
by fleerdon on Sep 10, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh man. Gutz just got lucky on that one.
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com -- just in case.
Which is to say, almost a case of some vintage terrible Indians’ baserunning.
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com -- just in case.
I am saddened by the departure of the great Randor Bierd. I hope he pitches tomorrow so I can get my Bierd fix.
Eric Wedge is secretly plotting ways to convince Shapiro to trade for Randor Bierd.
Pinch-hitting Carroll for Marte at this point in the season is inexcusable. I’ve had it with Wedge. He’s a younger, paler Dusty Baker.
by emd2k3 on Sep 10, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Barring a season worst (I think at least) bullpen implosion the Indians will be only two games below .500 after tonight’s game. That has to make more people than just me smile.
If you sign a Type A free agent you can’t lose the draft pick if you’re in the bottom 15.
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com -- just in case.
Although, the chances of us Signing a Type A are pretty slim.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
so we will have made up for getting swept by Seattle?
by Logodaedalus on Sep 10, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm, all 3 of the Player of the Game choices are Indians this time. I bet the Orioles fans still text in Roberts.
Or interpret “A. Cabrera” to mean “a Cabrera”, and vote for Dannando
by Logodaedalus on Sep 10, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No. Maybe 8, but with Lewis’ history of arm problems, there is no way that they push him far enough for the CG.
by Fundamentals on Sep 10, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
if he gets a 10ish or less pitch 8th, I would definitely think it’s possible. Though Wedge pulled Sowers after 8+ last night, so that probably means no
by Logodaedalus on Sep 10, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
to the level of hell where greedy people go with you!
(I’m not really up on my Dante)
by Logodaedalus on Sep 10, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok. SLew needs to be out of the game now. 85 and 86 on his fastball?
by APV on Sep 10, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I still don’t do it, but it does become tempting.
by Fundamentals on Sep 10, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
How many pitches?
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
I thought that was a pretty nice curve right there. And he’s spotting the fastball really nicely. I’m impressed, but then again this is the Orioles and they made Sowers look like Clifton P. Lee last night.
I just switched it over in time to watch some crappy umpiring.
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com -- just in case.
No kidding, yikes. Especially strike 3, which almost hit him.
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com -- just in case.
I watched it for the duration of this comment before switching it.
SUTCLIFFE: You think Jason Varitek is overrated? (Laughs.) Okay then, name me anyone who could replace him.
Steel Nick
HO LEE SHIT … tell me this isn’t Lewis’ Buchholz moment.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
I don’t get it?
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
no hitter then nothing.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
There have been some hits, no worries.
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com -- just in case.
As long as he doesn’t suck as bad as Buchholz next year.
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com -- just in case.
Andy Sonnanstine is my new hero:
HBP – K Youkilis (by A Sonnanstine); D Pedroia (by A Sonnanstine).
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com -- just in case.
by zempf on Sep 10, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think we need to adopt a very unrealistic, over the top characterization of Masa to make his outings more exciting. I like to imagine he’s a total womanizer and gets an assload of ass.
by JRontherim on Sep 10, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
As an homage to Kaz Tadano, I consider Masa to be the Ron Jeremy of Japan.
LeCavs!
If you were good enough, maybe we'd name it after you.
he’s actually a Transformer, and changes into a giant space ship with a big death ray in the middle
by Logodaedalus on Sep 10, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
MVP — Most Valuable Pedroia — HES THE ONLY ONE YOU IDIOT FAN.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
I know we all hate Pedroia, but are you in the right game thread?
by PatBordersHelmet on Sep 10, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
yes. HIRE ESPN360 THOUGH.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
I have little free time watching the Indians, the last thing I need is access to more baseball. Please do not enable me.
by PatBordersHelmet on Sep 10, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Slewie can’t Loose!
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
I’m about prepared to write of Masa.
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
But wait, you get at least another year!
by PatBordersHelmet on Sep 10, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
On a side note: Aubrey Huff… WTF?
If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.
If we were in the AL West, we’d be in second place. Sigh. Then again, we’d be like 2 games out if we were in the NL West.
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com -- just in case.
So I just got home. WHA SLEWIS HAPPENED IN HERE?
Seriously, someone give me a recap.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
….we won!
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on Sep 10, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
but 3 hits? Srsly?
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on Sep 10, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Scott Lewis is Jeremy Sowers, which is to say he looks hittable unless you are the Orioles.
Steel Nick
There’s a shitload of tempered enthusiasm.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on Sep 10, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, some of us were buzzing, you know?
by PatBordersHelmet on Sep 10, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
alright – i will too
.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
westbrook, you’re already there/here.
by PatBordersHelmet on Sep 10, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoaaaaa Nader, she is gonna get the night of her LIFE. He’s gonna keep missing the target, and finally mediocrely finish her off.
by JRontherim on Sep 10, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec for awesomeness.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on Sep 10, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Did he let a ball go by yet get lauded as a great defensive infielder?
by PatBordersHelmet on Sep 10, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
No, he picked a throw to second by the catcher and Sutcliffe went ga-ga over the pick.
I guess I meant by the comparison that he’s a very good player that is also overrated by the media.
Adriana Lima is like three feet taller than Dustin Pedroia. I don’t see that working out.
by fleerdon on Sep 10, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ge-baldelli090808, totally worth a read.
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com -- just in case.
Just because it hasn’t destroyed our world doesn’t mean it hasn’t destroyed a world. Some people only think about themselves.
¡Free Chan Perry!
by TheVanillaGorilla on Sep 10, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Top performers… S. Lewis (CLE)
8 IP, 3 H, 0 ER, 3 K, Win
@ BAL
Final K. Shoppach (CLE)
3-4, 2 HR,
2 RBI, 3 R,
BB
@ BAL
Final
Fun fact: Ellsbury has a .690 OPS on the year. Even David F’in Dellucci has an OPS over 700.
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com -- just in case.
In my zeal for ripping on Ellsbury, I was looking up Juan Pierre’s stats on baseball-reference.com, and the sponsorship on that page is priceless:
Lots and lots of grit and hustle doesn’t obscure the 700+ PA’s of 75 OPS+ production Pierre brings. He’s David Eckstein in the outfield. Bill Plaschke’s unsavory fetish notwithstanding, Juan Pierre should not be a regular in baseball.
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com -- just in case.
I wondered why this thread exploded. I thought maybe E5 was reinstated.
Like someone said above, Lewis looks like another Sowers. Although I think Sowers has better breaking stuff.
We’re just bathing in a wave of arms right now. Too bad, all those waves are 89 mph.
I know most of you are watching on ESPN and not Extra Innings, but I really dig these “I’m Bill Curtis, and I just found the Internet” commercials.
Steel Nick
No, he used to be a cranky young man.
by FredOx on Sep 10, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’ll make up for it: This situation looks awful. The Rays will never bring the runner from third home with 2 outs.
Steel Nick
What’s with the tense, agonized looks on the Boston fan faces? It’s been, what, three months since they’ve won a championship?
“Somebody has scored since the 3rd inning in this game”
Good sir, Masahide Kobayashi has scored at least four times since then.
Chicks dig the Death Ball.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Sep 10, 2008 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Aeros got 7 in the 8th for a 7-run lead, which Newsom couldn’t quite blow in the 9th. He clearly doesn’t have what it takes to fit in in this pen.
SUCK ON THAT RED SOX FANS YEAH GO HOME YOU STAYED UP UNTIL MIDNITE FOR NOTHING
I HATE YOU SO MUCH
by mrich on Sep 10, 2008 11:50 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
“very rarely that you’ll see in a closer … he’ll give up home runs”
oh yea, watch an indians game, pal.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
i hope i’m not listening to the red sox feed
by Gradyforpresident on Sep 11, 2008 12:04 AM EDT reply actions
WP update: Rays still favored by almost 70% to win the game. Not as good as the 96% after the home run.
Steel Nick
z
i’ll take that.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
era over 4.5 …. we have some.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
i mean i want to like this rays radio announcer but he sounds pretty dumb
by Gradyforpresident on Sep 11, 2008 12:11 AM EDT reply actions
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