Paul Byrd projected to be a Type B Free Agent

I hope the possible PTBNL is at least decent prospect. Otherwise the Indians probably didn't get enough for Byrd. I think a compensatory draft pick (probably in the #50 to #70 range) is worth more than the $2M salary savings.

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Why? they could extend Dellucci for another year with it!!

by peter m on Sep 2, 2008 2:51 PM EDT reply actions

I wouldn’t be surprised if the PTBNL clause in the trade factors in the possibility of Byrd getting TypeB free agent status.

by APV on Sep 2, 2008 2:55 PM EDT reply actions

The PTBNL isn’t an issue. The Indians served themselves well by investing the Byrd savings in some late-round draft picks. It was a pretty decent debut up and down the lot in Mahoning Valley for six or seven position players. Lake County should be an interesting team next year.

by xrickx on Sep 2, 2008 4:01 PM EDT reply actions

The $2 million wasn’t saved, it was put toward signing later round picks who have first or second round talent. Or at least that’s what the FO is saying.

by JesseAK on Sep 2, 2008 4:01 PM EDT reply actions

By saved I meant they don’t have to pay it to Byrd. That’s $2M more they can use elsewhere.

I agree than the money spent on draft picks is well spent.

I just think that a #50-#70 pick is worth more than $2M.

by KevinV on Sep 2, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions

But is #50-#70 pick worth more than a few low round projects?

by rockemsockem on Sep 2, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions

No. The idea is that the low-round guys had second-round talent, but they dropped in the draft because they had unrealistic bonus demands. The Indians pick up the guy after he’s dropped to the fifth round — or 16th — and offer him second-round money. Several teams took this approach this year.

It isn’t accurate to say that these guys are low-round projects. It is accurate to say that all draft picks after the first half-dozen are projects.

KevinV, keep in mind that the 50-70 pick would also have to be paid a bonus, so the total cost would be something like 2.5 to 3.0 million.

I personally am skeptical of the rankings. I don’t see how Byrd can end up higher this year than he was a year ago.

by Jay on Sep 2, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions

If the rules allowed it, I think the Indians would jump at the chance to pay $2.5M- $3M cash for another player in that range. They already pay our players’ salaries when they are traded away to buy more talent, this is very similar.

FA type is too big of a thing for Shapiro to just miss, so my guess is that either:
1. What the Indians are going to receive is tied Byrd’s FA ranking (do you see the Commish allowing this?), or
2. Shapiro didn’t think Byrd would get to type B status. If this is the case I trust his judgment over the link’s.

by KevinV on Sep 2, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, but the kind of talent we pay a few million for isn’t a raw draft pick, it’s generally two or three A- or B-prospects who are already in Double-A, or soon to be promoted there. If you look at Santana and Meloan, they are worth a whole hell of a lot more than your average second-round pick, not to mention they’re three years closer to the majors.

by Jay on Sep 2, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions

Sorry, I worded that poorly. Thanks for the effort though.

by rockemsockem on Sep 3, 2008 3:34 AM EDT up reply actions

The $2 million was saved.

All the expenditures come out of, and all the savings go into, one big pot. It isn’t credible to say that the Indians spent more liberally on draft bonuses because they traded Byrd. If they’re willing to pay a guy a 500K bonus, it’s because he’s worth a lot more than 500K to the club.

by Jay on Sep 2, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions