Clemens heartbroken by Yankee snub

No Clemens, no Torre, no Steinbrenner ... it's almost as though they were trying to pretend like the last seven years never happened.

Gee, you think he'll still try to get the Hall of Fame to enshrine him in a Yankees cap?

Come to think of it, I wonder why they Yankees didn't sign him again this season in June, announcing it from the owner's box and everything. Could have been just the shot in the ass the team needed this season.

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Maybe he could go in as a Blue Jay

by Roger Dorn on Sep 23, 2008 5:44 PM EDT reply actions

That got me thinking….do the Blue Jays have any players inducted in the Hall wearing their cap? I can’t think of any off the top of my head. I suppose they may have Roberto Alomar some day.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Sep 23, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Without doing any research, I believe the answer to this is no. Robbie will presumably go in as a Blue Jay. He’s totally deserving, but it might take a while as he doesn’t have any magic numbers.

by ClarkM on Sep 23, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions

I think you’re right. Dave Stieb isn’t a hall of famer; nor is Tom Henke, Tony Fernandez or Jorge Bell. Maybe, if he keeps it up, Roy Halladay might be a contender. But, Robbie Alomar is the most likely guy to go in as the first Blue Jay.

by peter m on Sep 23, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions

I think Robbie will be inducted in his second or third year, and I won’t be surprised if it’s in his first.

by Jay on Sep 23, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, I don’t think it should take him long. He doesn’t have the magic numbers, but he’s widely regarded as a great defensive second baseman and he was a very good hitter for many years.

Plus, he was the best player in baseball at his position for, what, 4 or 5 years? Any player you can say that about is a definate Hall of Famer.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Sep 24, 2008 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions

“Plus, he was the best player in baseball at his position for, what, 4 or 5 years? Any player you can say that about is a definate Hall of Famer.”

Tell that to Ron Santo and Bobby Grich.

by ClarkM on Sep 24, 2008 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions

Well, Santo should be in the Hall. I don’t know enough about Grich to comment about him.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Sep 24, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions

I’d be floored if he were elected on the first ballot, as it doesn’t happen too often for hitters without magic numbers. Puckett, Smith, Bench, and Morgan are the only guys in the last 25 years to do so.

Puckett had the lofty batting average, charisma, and whole career getting cut short to illness thing. Ozzie was regarded as far and away the best defensive shortstop of all time, plus he did back flips. Bench and Morgan each had multiple mvps and played on the big red machine. I don’t think Alomar falls into this category, but with hall voters, who really knows.

More likely, I think, he’ll get the Sandberg (3rd try), Fisk (2nd try), and Carter (6th try) treatment. For no real reason, I think it will be closer to Carter than Fisk, but this might be wrong, as Robbie was a flashy defender, which will most certainly help.

by ClarkM on Sep 24, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Seems like four in the last 25 years is actually not all that few, considering.

Magic numbers are for sluggers, not skill-position guys. Ten Gold Gloves is a pretty magic number for a second baseman who could hit and steal bases, and Alomar has ringz.

I also think that as the new generation of BBWAA members settles in, the whole first-ballot thing is getting less and less popular. Still, the over-under on how many ballots he’ll need is probably 2 rather than 1.5.

by Jay on Sep 24, 2008 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions

According to one list I found, the answer is no. 12 Clevelanders, however.

by FredOx on Sep 24, 2008 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions

I remember hearing a suggestion that Clemens’ cap should have “$” on it.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Sep 24, 2008 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions

I think it should have a picture of Clemens’ own face on it.

by Jay on Sep 24, 2008 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions

wearing the cap with his face on it. etc.

by Logodaedalus on Sep 25, 2008 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions

A fine Photoshop™ opportunity here.

by jhon on Sep 25, 2008 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions

shot in the ass

Rec for that alone.

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Sep 23, 2008 5:49 PM EDT reply actions

Gee they lose their historic stadium, they don’t make the play-offs and one of their all time greats feels sad. Why can’t I generate any empathy for the poor, down trodden Yankees?

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by mauichuck on Sep 23, 2008 6:11 PM EDT reply actions

“Clemens watched the telecast inside his mansion, which is still suffering the effects of Hurricane Ike weeks after it tore through Texas.”

Poor guy. I think a lot of people would take his “Broke down mansion” over our current homes.

by RD74 on Sep 23, 2008 6:56 PM EDT reply actions

Man this site has cost me so much cognitive dissonance in regards to the Yankees. I mean I thought I hated the Yankees but damn!

by Joe. on Sep 23, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions

This is part of our proud heritage as Indians fans. All the great old American League town have this legacy, but at least we were good enough to hang with them for a while, which is more than you can say for the Royals.

by Jay on Sep 23, 2008 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions

This from Chicagoan Mike Royko:

Hating the (New York) Yankees is as American as pizza pie, unwed mothers, and cheating on your income tax.

It’s my God-given right as an American citizen to hate those sons-of-bitches and their fans too!

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by mauichuck on Sep 23, 2008 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions

Could you imagine enjoying an Indians’ loss any more?

by Joe. on Sep 24, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions

It’d be better if it eliminated either the Yankees or the Red Sox while allowing a team to clinch that wasn’t the Yankees or the Red Sox. But I take your point.

by Logodaedalus on Sep 25, 2008 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions

this doesn’t make any sense. his best years on drugs were in that building.

by Brick. on Sep 23, 2008 11:39 PM EDT reply actions

Nah, as Roger intimated, his best years on drugs obviously were with Toronto — although whatever he was on that one year in Houston, hey doc, give me an order of that!

by Jay on Sep 24, 2008 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions