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Game Thread: September 3, 2008

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Chicago White Sox @ Cleveland Indians


Chicago at Cleveland, 12:05 PM (STO)

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What, no comments yet? Is everyone WORKING or something? Pfft.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 12:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m watching from Amsterdam … finally an Indians game on TV.

I hate the hawk

by JP_Frost on Sep 3, 2008 12:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m listening to the radio as I’m ostensibly getting some things done right now.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 12:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Me too… Key word: “ostensibly”

by Logodaedalus on Sep 3, 2008 12:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

like, the Netherlands? Dude congrats, I love Amsterdam

by RD74 on Sep 3, 2008 2:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1-2-3 in the first for Sowers.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 12:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if there’s such a thing as a good strikeout to get the game started, that 12-pitch effort is it

by APV on Sep 3, 2008 12:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A productive K if there ever was one

by Logodaedalus on Sep 3, 2008 12:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he gone!!

is it me or is the radar gun jacked up? Sowers throwing 92, Vazquez throwing 95 … seems fishy

by JP_Frost on Sep 3, 2008 12:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That does seem unlikely.

by dgcambridge on Sep 3, 2008 12:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hamilton

“5 up, 5 down”

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 12:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

perfect through 1.2

by APV on Sep 3, 2008 12:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 12:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So, where would you like Sowers on the SP list next year? I say 6th.

by dgcambridge on Sep 3, 2008 12:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Before or after Jake’s return?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 12:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

before I think 5th. then we’ll see how the crap (diamonds in the rough) on our back end play out

by APV on Sep 3, 2008 12:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pre Jake, I figure: Lee, Carmona, Reyes, Laffey, Sowers, Huff, Jackson to start the year… with a new acquisition probably stuck in there somewhere, and with room for Huff to trade up

by Logodaedalus on Sep 3, 2008 12:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m tempted to put Huff ahead of Sowers.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 12:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or if Jeremy finishes strong, ahead of Laff instead.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 12:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ditto, though it probably depends on how everyone looks in the spring. Also, I know they were trying to keep Huff’s innings down this year since he hasn’t pitched a whole lot the last two years, I wonder if they’ll have a cap on them next year as well.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 12:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think there’s a good chance that’s how it would end up, but I think Sowers/Laffey would have to have a subpar spring training to have Huff start the year in Cleveland. Which could happen. And of course, we’re really talking about the 6 spot, since there’s most likely going to be someone else stuck in there in the 3 or 4 spot, so it will also depend on performances at Columbus.

by Logodaedalus on Sep 3, 2008 12:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if they don’t look hugely different performance wise in the Spring, I’m sure we’ll go with Sowers over Huff. There’s much more pressure to figure out if Sowers is any good than Huff.

by APV on Sep 3, 2008 12:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Keep an eye on Reyes – I like him alot.

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Sep 3, 2008 12:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think Reyes has a real shot. Especially given an off-season with the team and coaching staff.

by APV on Sep 3, 2008 12:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That would be a huge help.

by dgcambridge on Sep 3, 2008 12:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I had the opposite thought. I don’t want to give Sowers 2009 regular season starts to see if he has it figured out. That’s what 2008 was for.

by dgcambridge on Sep 3, 2008 12:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’d like a new acquisition, and then I think off Lee, Carmona, Laffey, Huff and new guy (not necessarily in that order), followed by Sowers. Jackson and other fillers after that. Do you think of Reyes as fitting in the middle of the rotation all year?

by dgcambridge on Sep 3, 2008 12:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, he’s under Jake, obviously… I don’t think it’s possible to say anything now. If he finishes this year the way he’s been going, he certainly will have earned at least the 4th spot to start off. Beyond that will depend on how he does when the pressure’s back on.

by Logodaedalus on Sep 3, 2008 12:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it depends on who is in the race for a rotation spot — guys from the minors, free agents, trades etc. Right now, I think you’re right that he’s probably on the outside looking in.

by JP_Frost on Sep 3, 2008 12:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

here’s what i’ll say about sowers. this morning when i was walking to work i couldn’t remember the 5th starter in the rotation.

sowers was the one i was leaving out.

by Gradyforpresident on Sep 3, 2008 2:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SOWERS DEALING

by afh4 on Sep 3, 2008 12:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s so depressing to check milb.com every day and it says “No games scheduled.”

by afh4 on Sep 3, 2008 12:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Akron vs. Bowie, 7:05 tonight. Woohoo.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 12:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sal Fasano: .300 hitter.

by afh4 on Sep 3, 2008 12:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wish I was around here when Marte became a .200 hitter. Was there a parade? A fiesta?

by dgcambridge on Sep 3, 2008 12:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, but I believe there was a PARTAY.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 12:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah, partay for martay. Took me a full 10 minutes.

by dgcambridge on Sep 3, 2008 12:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it’s only like #3 on the LGT list of common phrases

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 12:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought Garko Sucks was #3.

by dgcambridge on Sep 3, 2008 12:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Grady saw 12 pitches, hitters 2-6 saw 18 pitches.

by afh4 on Sep 3, 2008 12:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

White Sox fans must hate Uribe, no?

by dgcambridge on Sep 3, 2008 12:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

“And all that crap?” Manning, you’re a dink.

by supermarioelia on Sep 3, 2008 12:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey I thought you were in the clinics – get back out on the floor and check on your patients!!

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Sep 3, 2008 12:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha lunch break here.

by supermarioelia on Sep 3, 2008 12:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What they let you eat now?! Man things sure have changed.

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Sep 3, 2008 12:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nah we start in the clinics on Monday, this week is all of the orientation baloney.

by supermarioelia on Sep 3, 2008 12:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Which service?

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Sep 3, 2008 12:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

internal medicine on the clinical teaching unit for 6 weeks. I’m pretty much expecting hell.

by supermarioelia on Sep 3, 2008 12:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jeremy Sowers is internally troubled by how dominant he is.

by afh4 on Sep 3, 2008 12:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You’ll get it – not as bad as surgery though. Those interist are all anal retentive – they like to do a lot of navel gazing. The surgeons just work you like rented mules.

And what’s this 6 weeks BS? Shouldn’t it be at least two months.

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Sep 3, 2008 12:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So internal medicine is 12 weeks total, 6 on CTU, 2 in elder care, 2 in onco and a 2-week selective. Surg is 12, paeds is 6, family is 6, psych is 6, obs/gyn is 6

by supermarioelia on Sep 3, 2008 12:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We had/have different splits. You’d do one service for a month – cardio, heme/onc, nephro, GI, Pulmonary, or neuro. You’d do “elder care” during your “splits” with ENT, etc. and CTU whasthat? Critical care? And that ain’t how you spell pedes!

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Sep 3, 2008 12:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ctu’s the clinical teaching unit where you work as a team with the residents and consultants on one of the medicine floors with the sickest in-patients.

by supermarioelia on Sep 3, 2008 12:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YOU CANNOT TOUCH THE SOWERS HEAT

by afh4 on Sep 3, 2008 12:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sowers = dealin’.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 12:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How long did Sowers go in his two previous bids at perfection? Five innings apiece right?

by supermarioelia on Sep 3, 2008 12:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yup… let’s hope for 6 tonight. Er, this early afternoon

by Logodaedalus on Sep 3, 2008 12:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

‘REMY IS NOT PLAYING WITH YA’LL

by afh4 on Sep 3, 2008 12:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You sir are on your game today.

by bogey021 on Sep 3, 2008 12:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s Y’ALL, thankyouverymuch.

by FredOx on Sep 3, 2008 12:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmm. That’s an interesting proposition. I grew up in the south but am not really sure what a good resource is for this sort of spelling conflict.

by afh4 on Sep 3, 2008 12:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wiki thinks I’m on the alternate spelling tip:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y%27all

by afh4 on Sep 3, 2008 12:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The huge water tower in my hometown might help.

by bogey021 on Sep 3, 2008 12:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are you from Florence SC?

by afh4 on Sep 3, 2008 12:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that tower is in kentucky

by Brick. on Sep 3, 2008 12:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That tower brings back memories, as it was the official On The Way There Now landmark when driving from Akron to Louisville to visit my grandparents as a kid.

by FredOx on Sep 3, 2008 12:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sowers perfect through 9 (batters)

by FredOx on Sep 3, 2008 12:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are these recent performances not a good indicator that Jeremy Sowers would be a good closer?

by afh4 on Sep 3, 2008 12:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

NOT AS GOOD AS JLEW

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 12:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

JSOW JLEW AT THE BACK END OF THE ’PEN.

TOTAL FIREBALLING INTIMIDATION. LIKE MARIO AFTER A FLOWER, TWICE.

by afh4 on Sep 3, 2008 12:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Reading the game logs, I really liked this. /applause

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Sep 3, 2008 3:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sowers numbers don’t show that he’s any better in the first (or first few) innings. Although I would have sworn it was true.

by dgcambridge on Sep 3, 2008 12:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He’s had some terrible first innings, which is an argument against closing. My sense is that 2 through 5 have been pretty good, but I don’t have the stats.

by Logodaedalus on Sep 3, 2008 12:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2008 OPS Against by Inning:

1: .851
2: .579
3: 1.070
4: .801
5: .812

by FredOx on Sep 3, 2008 12:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sowers should be our two inning closer in games in which we have a lead of over 5.

by afh4 on Sep 3, 2008 12:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man, I thought Fasano had taken that one for a (mustache) ride.

by afh4 on Sep 3, 2008 12:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fantastic. why do we even bother with those things… what do they call them nowadays? baserunners?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 12:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At least now we’re set up with our table setter, Grady, in front of our vaunted run producers, Looch and BFran.

by afh4 on Sep 3, 2008 12:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like how totally blah Hegan was about the pickoff/rundown.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 12:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can’t get mad because he had just called Grady “the ultimate leadoff man.”

by afh4 on Sep 3, 2008 12:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just like Barry Bonds.

by dgcambridge on Sep 3, 2008 12:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are we still doing posts of the week or have we given that up out of sheer indifference? If we were still doing posts of the week, this would be it.

Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Sep 3, 2008 1:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seconded, I rec’d it.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 1:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We are seeing vitage Sowers today.

by afh4 on Sep 3, 2008 12:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

“indeeb” means “indeed” in Spanish. It’s one of those cognate thingies.

by Logodaedalus on Sep 3, 2008 1:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

GIDdyuP, please, Konerko.

by FredOx on Sep 3, 2008 1:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That works, too. Konerko – Very Fooled.

by FredOx on Sep 3, 2008 1:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What the hell is wrong with Konerko? It was clearly a strike.

by FredOx on Sep 3, 2008 1:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hopefully we can whaterver

by Brick. on Sep 3, 2008 1:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would not object to obtaining a hit, eventually.

by FredOx on Sep 3, 2008 1:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dunno, that would make me feel very disoriented

by Logodaedalus on Sep 3, 2008 1:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think you need to be more specific, they don’t seem to have gotten the memo.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 1:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m surprised that the team batting title race between Jhonny and BenF hasn’t gotten more press.

by dgcambridge on Sep 3, 2008 1:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is that what’s meant by a race-to-the-bottom?

by peter m on Sep 3, 2008 1:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Boo.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 1:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’ll put your mom on the board

by Logodaedalus on Sep 3, 2008 1:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   1 recs

(Not actually watching Hawk… just have a feeling this is the relevant response)

by Logodaedalus on Sep 3, 2008 1:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Emesis is the appropriate response to Hawk.

by FredOx on Sep 3, 2008 1:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hopefully in a manner that produces a golden goose egg

by Logodaedalus on Sep 3, 2008 1:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Looks as if Sowers isn’t inducing grounders any longer. Not a good sign.

by peter m on Sep 3, 2008 1:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

On the bright side, we’re now in a position that we’re more familiar with and comfortable in… (Sorry Brick, not whining, just looking for a silver lining)

by Logodaedalus on Sep 3, 2008 1:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Magic Helmet.

by FredOx on Sep 3, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Sep 3, 2008 1:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

there ya go, choo

by oaksterdam on Sep 3, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A HIT!

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I predict Garko will suck

by FredOx on Sep 3, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Reverse jinx. And it worked.

by FredOx on Sep 3, 2008 1:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wanna try that for ol’ Sal?

by oaksterdam on Sep 3, 2008 1:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I predict Sal will do something bad

by FredOx on Sep 3, 2008 1:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Right. But, he did give Wedge the opportunity to pinch hit for Marte. I predict Marte will suck.

by peter m on Sep 3, 2008 1:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Apparently you used up your reverse jinx allotment for the day

by Logodaedalus on Sep 3, 2008 1:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

isn’t that a little too easy?

by oaksterdam on Sep 3, 2008 1:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yay for non-suck.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 1:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He got a hit; but, he still sucks.

by peter m on Sep 3, 2008 1:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

runners on the corners, 2 out & marte up?

gonna be a K…

by oaksterdam on Sep 3, 2008 1:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, it wasn’t a K at least. Bleh.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 1:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nuh uh!

It says “In Play (Out)”… Oh…

by painaxl on Sep 3, 2008 1:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Garko runs like a Molina.

by FredOx on Sep 3, 2008 1:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stupid Underwood… “I can’t remember a series in which Jermain Dye was hitless…”

by Logodaedalus on Sep 3, 2008 1:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But there have been many series where Underwood was witless. In his defense, Dye has been held hitless in a series only twice this year.

by FredOx on Sep 3, 2008 1:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sheeit.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 1:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sowers is frustrating.

David Dellucci is batting second with a .320 OBP.

by xrickx on Sep 3, 2008 1:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That wasn’t that bad of a pitch

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Sep 3, 2008 1:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

from now on, just pull sowers after 5 no matter what.

by Brick. on Sep 3, 2008 1:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe we’ll get to see Meloan today?

by bogey021 on Sep 3, 2008 1:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Since Meloan has thrown so many innings due to his transition back to the rotation with the Dodgers, the Indians said they’ll go easy on him. I want to see Rich Rundles. He’s been shut-down facing lefties.

by xrickx on Sep 3, 2008 1:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

NEW MR ANONYMOUS

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 1:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now would also be a good time to see what Craig Breslow can do.

Oh, wait…

by xrickx on Sep 3, 2008 1:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

looked yesterday. The dude’s ERA is still very nice.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 1:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he got Marte’d, except he was lucky enough to get out.

by xrickx on Sep 3, 2008 1:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Breslow can’t bunt, so they kept him in the AL.

by peter m on Sep 3, 2008 1:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

can Phillips bunt?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 2:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All those extra arms in the bullpen and we bring in Juan Rincon?

Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Sep 3, 2008 1:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   1 recs

The extra arms are not in the Circus of Trout.

by FredOx on Sep 3, 2008 1:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can’t believe we keep rolling him out there. Are we trying to learn something about him for next year? I have no idea.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 1:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He’s a free agent at season’s end. But I think they were hoping he was either injured or just had a serious mechanical flaw that when healed/fixed, would allow him to be dominant again. see: rafael betancourt

by xrickx on Sep 3, 2008 2:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True. I guess we don’t have a whole lot to lose right now.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 2:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He was throwing fine when he was pitching ahead. Then he starts going 1-0, 2-0 on these guys. Then he’s pitching out of the stretch, which then causes him to revert to C.C. Sabathia playoff effectiveness.

Sowers has shown glimpses of being a decent back-end starter. And when you look at his AAA numbers over the last three years, it’s obvious that he is a Major League pitcher. But somehow, he becomes a nibbler, walks more guys, serves up more bombs, and his whole game goes to hell.

I really think he’s going to be a decent starter. He’s honestly not this bad.

by xrickx on Sep 3, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hooray for hallway-before-class LGT

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 1:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha. I stayed home to study before class rather than go to the library, just cause my internet connection is so choppy there.

by xrickx on Sep 3, 2008 1:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they didn’t teach swisher to count at THE ohio state university

by Brick. on Sep 3, 2008 1:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

3rd out on a Garko to Garko. How appropriate.

by FredOx on Sep 3, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Garko is an expert on outs.

by peter m on Sep 3, 2008 1:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Speaking of which, why isn’t Aubrey playing first?

by peter m on Sep 3, 2008 1:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ick. Was this one of those “perfect start” games again?

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by vbc3 on Sep 3, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

through three innings.

by xrickx on Sep 3, 2008 1:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A half dozen more of those and we in business.

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by vbc3 on Sep 3, 2008 2:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hammy LGFT alert

by Brick. on Sep 3, 2008 2:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bring on the bullpen. Apparently Horacio Ramirez is warming, yay.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 2:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ERA+ of 61. I’m in favor of that.

by FredOx on Sep 3, 2008 2:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

GRADY.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 2:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

indians will need an extra starter on saturday, september 13th in kansas city for a double header.

i wonder if scott lewis, if he’s not still pitching in the akron playoffs, will get the start? it’d be nice to see him get a start.

by xrickx on Sep 3, 2008 2:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can we pinch hit for Dellucci now?

by peter m on Sep 3, 2008 2:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Speed, baby. Speed.

Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Sep 3, 2008 2:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dellucci. go home.

by xrickx on Sep 3, 2008 2:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Permanently. Take Garko with you.

by peter m on Sep 3, 2008 2:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

bad time machine or just reacting at his presence?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 2:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

bad time machine. dribbler out in front of home plate.

by xrickx on Sep 3, 2008 2:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good job swinging at that first pitch, Dellucci.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 2:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not only swinging at it, but drilling it.

by xrickx on Sep 3, 2008 2:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

boooooo

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 2:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

“Grounded out to catcher.”

That sounds pathetic.

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by vbc3 on Sep 3, 2008 2:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That sounds better than what he actually did.

by FredOx on Sep 3, 2008 2:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hamilton says it went about 2 feet.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 2:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

francisco saw four pitches. all four were balls. he swung at three of them.

by xrickx on Sep 3, 2008 2:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s that bad example that Dellucci sets by batting in front of him.

Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Sep 3, 2008 2:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haha, ok. we can blame dellucci for that. any way to blame wedge?

by xrickx on Sep 3, 2008 2:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sure. Wedge keeps trotting Dellucci out there to set a bad example for his younger, impressionable teammates.

Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Sep 3, 2008 2:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i smell a conspiracy.

by xrickx on Sep 3, 2008 2:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That last one was a strike, but one he could have ignored had he not swung at the others.

by FredOx on Sep 3, 2008 2:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i agree with the latter, that he would have not swung had he watched the others. but i dont believe the last one was a strike.

by xrickx on Sep 3, 2008 2:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BOOOOO

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by vbc3 on Sep 3, 2008 2:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

miles of suck

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 2:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Peralta has absolutely no idea where the strike zone is today.

by FredOx on Sep 3, 2008 2:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he just found it.

by xrickx on Sep 3, 2008 2:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YESSS?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 2:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fastball on the outside corner, johnny took it off the RF wall. line drive over dye’s head. dye tried, but he couldn’t get back fast enough. i’m not so sure even gutierrez or ichiro makes that play either.

by xrickx on Sep 3, 2008 2:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

gracias

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 2:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Only because Vazquez was stupid enough to throw him a strike, and Dye is a big doofus.

by FredOx on Sep 3, 2008 2:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

JHONNY

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by vbc3 on Sep 3, 2008 2:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

JHONNY!

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 2:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

jermaine dye gave that wall a beating.

by xrickx on Sep 3, 2008 2:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

o yea

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 2:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yay dhoubles.

by peter m on Sep 3, 2008 2:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man, did we ever need that hit.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 2:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i’ll take 2 more of the same.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 2:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or not

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 2:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Alrighty, at least we’re not totally dead out there.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 2:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Juan Rincon’s presence on the mound suggests you are wrong.

by FredOx on Sep 3, 2008 2:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he’s been oddly effective his last five innings. i hereby denounce any resulting jinx this comment may inflict.

by xrickx on Sep 3, 2008 2:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I feel happy! I feel happy!

Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Sep 3, 2008 2:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

andrew are you teaching and posting on lgt?

by Gradyforpresident on Sep 3, 2008 2:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Posting on LGT is teaching.

by FredOx on Sep 3, 2008 2:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Naw, I didn’t even have students today. Not till tomorrow do the rapscallions show up.

I had to go to meetings.

by afh4 on Sep 3, 2008 5:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rich Rundles!

by FredOx on Sep 3, 2008 2:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Really? Do we all get a cookie if the team is 8.5 GB?

by FredOx on Sep 3, 2008 2:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We’d be 4.5 GB if it wasn’t for that damned CC. I read that somewhere.

by peter m on Sep 3, 2008 2:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You can make quite a few meaningful sentences by rearranging those five words!

by peter m on Sep 3, 2008 2:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’ll take “we need shit to win” for $100.

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In Cliff we trust.

by vbc3 on Sep 3, 2008 2:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

too obvious. you only rearranged 2 words.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 2:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We need to win shit?

We win shit to need?

We shit to need win?

Diminishing returns.

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In Cliff we trust.

by vbc3 on Sep 3, 2008 2:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we need to shit … win?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 2:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we need shit to win

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 2:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Due Up: R. Garko (.255, 1-for-2, single), S. Fasano (.286, 0-for-2, strikeout), A. Marte (.208, 0-for-2)

Call it, PH bettors.

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In Cliff we trust.

by vbc3 on Sep 3, 2008 2:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was the Rincon I like to see.

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In Cliff we trust.

by vbc3 on Sep 3, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

woah, RINCON? that you?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 2:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dotel? Wait, I WAS PROMISED HORATIO RAMIERZ!!

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Sep 3, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

badgark

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

come on fasano get on base

by Gradyforpresident on Sep 3, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

booo brewers

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Grit Personified

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Sep 3, 2008 2:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HERE WE GO ANDY HERE WE GO

by Gradyforpresident on Sep 3, 2008 2:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ha ha, like they’d let him hit.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 2:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can Martinez pinch run?

by peter m on Sep 3, 2008 2:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Evidently he CAN pinch hit.

by peter m on Sep 3, 2008 2:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

when i saw carroll on gameday, yall know what i was thinking

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 2:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

of course no marte

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 2:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey. It’s a pennant race, don’t you know?

by peter m on Sep 3, 2008 2:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This would be a great time to hit your first bomb, Victor.

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Sep 3, 2008 2:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FAIL

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Sep 3, 2008 2:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Except that he did that last night :)

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 2:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know, you miss ONE game…

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Sep 3, 2008 2:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ha

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 2:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

COME ON DROOOOOOBSSSSSSSS

by Gradyforpresident on Sep 3, 2008 2:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

zz

MARTE COULDA DONE THAT

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 2:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The guy with a nine game hit streak—Andy Marte—just can’t do anything right.

by xrickx on Sep 3, 2008 2:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

interesting.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 2:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seriously, we’re running guys like Brendan Donnelly & Juan Rincon out there, guys who pretty much have no future with this team, and for some reason we’ve gotta pinch-hit for Marte in every chance he gets with men on in the late innings?

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 2:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   2 recs

How else can we keep his fragile psyche broken and bleeding?

Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Sep 3, 2008 2:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All indications are that Donnelly will be back next year. He is in fact a free agent. But he’s not going to command a huge deal. He wouldn’t even get a multi-year deal on the open market considering his age and recent injury.

by xrickx on Sep 3, 2008 2:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really like Asdrubal.

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In Cliff we trust.

by vbc3 on Sep 3, 2008 2:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

prof just used the word “Yall”

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 2:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YOU USE UP ALL THE GLUE ON PURPOSE!!

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In Cliff we trust.

by vbc3 on Sep 3, 2008 2:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At least Dellucci gets PH for as well…

by Fundamentals on Sep 3, 2008 2:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Please, please, please pinch-hit for Dellucci!

Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he could hit a breaking ball...

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Sep 3, 2008 2:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

pitching chnge? injury? earthquake?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 2:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dude, is that Mankind?

He totally threw out the first pitch on Saturday afternoon. Seriously.

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In Cliff we trust.

by vbc3 on Sep 3, 2008 2:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah. Must have been the beard that threw me.

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In Cliff we trust.

by vbc3 on Sep 3, 2008 2:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ducks on the pond.

LGGutz!

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In Cliff we trust.

by vbc3 on Sep 3, 2008 2:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

walk?

Looch.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 2:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yup. Gootz PHing.

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In Cliff we trust.

by vbc3 on Sep 3, 2008 2:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

gross

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Sep 3, 2008 2:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this is my most hated time machine of the year

by Gradyforpresident on Sep 3, 2008 2:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Boo to bad time machines.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on Sep 3, 2008 2:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

couldn’t have set that up better for Gutz. lefty on the mound. 2-0 count. just didn’t happen.

by xrickx on Sep 3, 2008 2:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Screw it, I’m going to eat some Arbys.

by dgcambridge on Sep 3, 2008 2:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes it does

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Sep 3, 2008 2:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow, you must be hungry!

by Joe. on Sep 3, 2008 2:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s hunger, apathy, and a touch of depression.

by dgcambridge on Sep 3, 2008 2:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

heh, I don’t think anyone got it.

by Joe. on Sep 3, 2008 2:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rincon again? hmm…

If you need me, I'll be senselessly rooting for Sizemore 40/40 for the remainder of 2008.

by gte619n on Sep 3, 2008 2:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hoping to see a pinch hitter so they can use Rundles…

by Logodaedalus on Sep 3, 2008 2:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs