Game Thread: September 6, 2008
Cleveland Indians @ Kansas City Royals
Cleveland at Kansas City, 7:10 PM (STO)
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Minny tied with Detroit 4-4.
White Sox start at 7:05; Lackey vs. Gavin Floyd
by Gradyforpresident on
Sep 6, 2008 6:23 PM EDT
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Castro reporting Scott Lewis will make Reyes’s next start.
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 7:06 PM EDT
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I just realized I’m kind of excited to see Lewis start. Old for his level, but dominant. Might as well get an odd shot at the bigs.
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 7:24 PM EDT
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I’d also be happy to see Lewis get a start
by APV on
Sep 6, 2008 7:25 PM EDT
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I read the prospect threads but I don’t have a good memory for individual histories. Why did Lewis not stay at AAA when he made those four starts?
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 7:33 PM EDT
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those four starts came at the end of the season. they moved him back down to Akron so that he could get in another start or two in the playoffs.
by APV on
Sep 6, 2008 7:35 PM EDT
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Having a unique delivery is the fastest way for a pitcher to get to my heart.
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 7:15 PM EDT
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So if no-one wants to talk about the game…I may be getting a rabbit. Anyone ever owned one?
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 7:16 PM EDT
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Had a class pet in first grade named Bun-Bun…. Closest I’ve ever come to having a rabbit
by Logodaedalus on
Sep 6, 2008 7:19 PM EDT
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Bun Bun definitely sounds like a stripper name
by APV on
Sep 6, 2008 7:20 PM EDT
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Well, Bun-Bun didn’t wear clothes…
by Logodaedalus on
Sep 6, 2008 7:21 PM EDT
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i guess not then. you can’t take clothes off if you don’t wear them in the first place.
by APV on
Sep 6, 2008 7:23 PM EDT
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True, though that was when Bun Bun was in first grade. Who knows what she(?) did later in life…
by Logodaedalus on
Sep 6, 2008 7:24 PM EDT
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One of my suitemates won one in a raffle (he didn’t know that’s what the prize was). Why the hell do people put live animals in raffles? Anyway, we’re trying to decide if we might actually want to keep it.
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 7:20 PM EDT
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Seems wrong to me. Kind of a more extreme version of giving a kid a puppy for X-mas, which puts the dog in a category closer to that of a blender than a pet. Not that you’d give a kid a blender, but you know what I mean.
by Logodaedalus on
Sep 6, 2008 7:26 PM EDT
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I was given a newt at my 5th grade birthday party. I got a 2nd newt to go along with it, proceeded to neglect them while they lived in an aquarium in my room for the next 9 years. They didn’t die till my freshman year of college at which point I had donated them to my brother’s high school science classroom.
by APV on
Sep 6, 2008 7:28 PM EDT
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Yikes. Nice.
I have a leopard gecko back at home I didn’t bring to school (no easy access to crickets). Those things can live 15 years, and mine’s about 8.
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 7:29 PM EDT
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This talk about newts reminded me of<a href=“”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr8DIg3oHFI" >" > this scene.
But I guess yours didn’t get better after all.
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.
by Harry Doyle on
Sep 6, 2008 7:39 PM EDT
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they did get better. in my brother’s classroom their habitat had a waterfall and other running water and apparently their activity level went from semi-comatose to vigorous. But they didn’t stop being newts.
by APV on
Sep 6, 2008 7:43 PM EDT
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they did get better. in my brother’s classroom their habitat had a waterfall and other running water and apparently their activity level went from semi-comatose to vigorous. But they didn’t stop being newts.
by APV on
Sep 6, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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Huh… MLB TV has the Tribe feed. That’s unusual for a road game
by Logodaedalus on
Sep 6, 2008 7:21 PM EDT
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Not only that, I am getting the Tribe radio team with the TV broadcast
by Fios on
Sep 6, 2008 7:25 PM EDT
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Huh… I’m getting Undermann…. Though there’s something off-seeming about the audio signal.
by Logodaedalus on
Sep 6, 2008 7:28 PM EDT
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Yeah, I guess I am too … does Hegan do the TV broadcast on occasion?
by Fios on
Sep 6, 2008 7:35 PM EDT
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He used to, before Underwood came to TV from radio. Not since, to my knowledge. Manning and Hegan have not wildly dissimilar voices…
by Logodaedalus on
Sep 6, 2008 7:37 PM EDT
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Peralta! It really looked like he had to strain to make that throw.
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 7:23 PM EDT
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and starts the inning off with a backwards K
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 7:26 PM EDT
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Choo! [disclaimer: this is just a cheer]
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 7:26 PM EDT
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Prognosticating cheer is now my official phrase of the day.
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
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Woah! Gil Meche hasn’t gone more than 7 innings this year, Underwood says.
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 7:28 PM EDT
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“But Voltaire, I like you to hate me.”
by Logodaedalus on
Sep 6, 2008 7:32 PM EDT
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I want to like Garko, but he’s been the entire Greek tragedy lately
by Logodaedalus on
Sep 6, 2008 7:34 PM EDT
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Calculated decision to avoid a grand slam?
by Logodaedalus on
Sep 6, 2008 7:38 PM EDT
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Miguel Olivo was supposed to be a superstar?
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 7:37 PM EDT
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hmm…Laporta HR in AA, rbi-hit off Zache in the bigs. Do these two cancel each other out?
by APV on
Sep 6, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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So who still thinks Francisco’s D doesn’t suck?
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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Benfran having a stellar defensive inning.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Sep 6, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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So who still thinks Francisco’s D doesn’t suck?
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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I’ve always thought it sucked. DH candidate IMO.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Sep 6, 2008 7:47 PM EDT
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apparently suckitude brings the lurkers out of the woodwork
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 7:45 PM EDT
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in this thread. just teasin’ ya, anyway
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 7:51 PM EDT
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And THAT is why I couldn’t ever pitch in little league.
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 7:46 PM EDT
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line drives?
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Sep 6, 2008 7:48 PM EDT
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I probably could have pitched in HS, but I’m not gonna lie – line drives back at me scare the shit outta me.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Sep 6, 2008 7:51 PM EDT
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I guess I’ll show up to see if this Marte Party is poppin or not.
by JRontherim on
Sep 6, 2008 7:48 PM EDT
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I’ve really got to stop RSVP’ing for these things.
by JRontherim on
Sep 6, 2008 7:51 PM EDT
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So Asdrubal is OPSing .803 in his second stint here. It makes me smile, a lot.
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
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Marte has no luck.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Sep 6, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
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TV guys theorizing 56-game hit streak impossible because of media coverage. FJM anyone?
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 7:51 PM EDT
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Underwood: “If you averaged 300 strikeouts a year for 20 years you still wouldn’t break Ryan’s record!” [pause] “Or would you?”
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 7:56 PM EDT
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Jackson seems to be inducing a large number of weird groundouts.
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 7:56 PM EDT
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Man even the announcers don’t want to discuss this game.
by JRontherim on
Sep 6, 2008 7:59 PM EDT
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that was a better inning from Jackson. but does anyone else wish we had at least one starter whose fastball sat in the 93-95 range, instead of the 88-90 range?
by APV on
Sep 6, 2008 8:01 PM EDT
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Grady still at 31 HR? 40/40 is diminishing rapidly in plasubility
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 8:02 PM EDT
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How was Garko not sat after yesterday’s game? We DID recall Aubrey. I’d even shift Marte to 3rd, Peralta to short, Asdrubal to Short, and throw in Barfield. You may as well see how it works.
by JRontherim on
Sep 6, 2008 8:03 PM EDT
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Out of curiousity, why are we so down on Garko and not on Gutz? Gutz is having a significantly worse season. Is it his age and D?
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 8:05 PM EDT
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And expectations. With Hafner and Martinez out, Garko was the remaining lumber. And no. No he wasn’t.
by JRontherim on
Sep 6, 2008 8:06 PM EDT
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Defense is a big factor for me. Also, Gutz has been playing better of late. Going back to Aug. 1st Gutz has an OPS over .830. Gark’s is around .730.
by APV on
Sep 6, 2008 8:07 PM EDT
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I’ve always thought Gil Meche should change his middle name to “Guh”. That would be epic.
by Logodaedalus on
Sep 6, 2008 8:06 PM EDT
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I’d rec this, but I had this thought once before.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Sep 6, 2008 8:34 PM EDT
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Yeah, it’s pretty obvious. I’ve thought it for a long time, but this is the first time I’ve been on LGT when Meche is pitching.
by Logodaedalus on
Sep 6, 2008 8:40 PM EDT
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what I want to know now is, what are the changes Matt Gamel (Brewers prospect) can get the nick name Matt “Gar” Gamel. Please please please
by APV on
Sep 6, 2008 8:47 PM EDT
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I was trying to figure out the grammar of this sentence for a while before I figured out you meant “chances”
by Logodaedalus on
Sep 6, 2008 8:54 PM EDT
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Yeah, I know. It just initially seemed plausible that you had meant “changes”, except for the syntax
by Logodaedalus on
Sep 6, 2008 8:58 PM EDT
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Our lefty’s “Phifer” should also be changed to “s are best approached careful”
by Logodaedalus on
Sep 6, 2008 9:08 PM EDT
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it is nice to look at a box score and see home runs listed for both Laporta and Hafner. It just looks right.
by APV on
Sep 6, 2008 8:08 PM EDT
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I think we would like Peralta a lot more if all of his outs weren’t so definitive. If he occasionally hit hard line drives the outfielders barely snag. Perhaps a tricky ground ball. Instead of flailing at high cheese.
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 8:10 PM EDT
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I’ve got a bad feeling this is going to be one of those games that Gil Meche dominates us
by APV on
Sep 6, 2008 8:10 PM EDT
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if he goes more than 7 innings, i will be sad
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 8:10 PM EDT
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I figure I’ll ask since there’s people here, has anyone played Tiger Woods 09?
by JRontherim on
Sep 6, 2008 8:11 PM EDT
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I figure I’ll ask since there’s people here, has anyone played Tiger Woods 09?
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Sep 6, 2008 8:11 PM EDT
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Jhonny has been chasing a lot lately. Which he’s always done, except that he seemed to be figuring out the strike zone for a time recently…
by Logodaedalus on
Sep 6, 2008 8:11 PM EDT
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Why Grady is so awesome, reason #45,035: He’s actually cut down on the strikeouts by a decent bit this year.
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 8:13 PM EDT
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while keeping the same walk rate and increasing his power.
Imagine how much recognition he’d get if he played in a bigger market.
by JP_Frost on
Sep 6, 2008 8:14 PM EDT
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Why Grady is so awesome, reason #45,035: He’s actually cut down on the strikeouts by a decent bit this year.
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 8:13 PM EDT
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while keeping the same walk rate and increasing his power.
Imagine how much recognition he’d get if he played in a bigger market.
by SuddenSam on
Sep 6, 2008 8:17 PM EDT
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(Reverse time machine, retroactive to the Seattle series)
by Logodaedalus on
Sep 6, 2008 8:18 PM EDT
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I think Garko could make a career out of being the RBI-Out guy.
by JRontherim on
Sep 6, 2008 8:20 PM EDT
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We actually need some more of those in runner at third, <2 out situations. Strikes me as a weak area for the team.
by Logodaedalus on
Sep 6, 2008 8:22 PM EDT
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Any Sabermetric geeks know if there’s a normalized stat that selectively captures “productive outs”? Meaning, how often does a guy advance a runner when there’s a runner at 2nd with 0 out, or RBI with runner at 3rd, < 2 out, compared to how often he does crappy things like strikeout, pop-up, GIDP in those situations?
by Logodaedalus on
Sep 6, 2008 8:26 PM EDT
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NL pinch hitter.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Sep 6, 2008 8:37 PM EDT
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Hey Adam, are you going to any of the Orioles series?
-Erik
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Sep 6, 2008 8:27 PM EDT
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How are you liking it up there? I applied for something based in Beantown, it would be a good match, but I’ll have to wait and see if they want to bring me in for an interview.
-Erik
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Sep 6, 2008 8:29 PM EDT
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Yeah, that would be a tough one. In Bal’more, more folks could give a crap about the O’s.
-Erik
by drerikbrady on
Sep 6, 2008 8:31 PM EDT
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the Boston area has been great so far, though. I like the city, I like the area, I like where i’m at.
by APV on
Sep 6, 2008 8:34 PM EDT
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i really like the city. but man i hate those damn fans
by Gradyforpresident on
Sep 6, 2008 8:34 PM EDT
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they do suck. i’m making my first fenway trip when Cleveland comes into town in two weeks. i’m bracing for the worst
(the worst – sitting behind the presidents of the Kevin Youkilis and Dustin Pedroia fan clubs, who, while cheering, knock over my beer)
by APV on
Sep 6, 2008 8:37 PM EDT
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At least there would be friendlies in the area, we’ve have to find a special code or something to locate each other, like wearing indians jerseys or something, you know something that sox fans wouldn’t catch on to
-Erik
by drerikbrady on
Sep 6, 2008 8:38 PM EDT
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I knew that guy would get some time.
-Erik
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Sep 6, 2008 8:25 PM EDT
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I love a good ground out to the catcher.
-Erik
by drerikbrady on
Sep 6, 2008 8:25 PM EDT
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i’m still holding out for the “ground out to centerfielder”
by APV on
Sep 6, 2008 8:26 PM EDT
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watching games with Molinas in them is probably your best bet.
by Logodaedalus on
Sep 6, 2008 8:27 PM EDT
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and hope Grady’s DHing with Gutz in CF.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Sep 6, 2008 8:38 PM EDT
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And Jackson induces the inning ending dp. Gotta like that.
-Erik
by drerikbrady on
Sep 6, 2008 8:28 PM EDT
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Wow, I missed that whole half-inning because I didn’t realize my MLB TV disconnected.
by Logodaedalus on
Sep 6, 2008 8:29 PM EDT
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Would it be possible for us to play 5 infielders in one of these games where we’ve got a groundball pitcher on the mound? Let Grady take LC and Gutz take RC, but then put in 5 infielders.
by APV on
Sep 6, 2008 8:29 PM EDT
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in a word: no.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Sep 6, 2008 8:39 PM EDT
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WHy do we still give at bats to Dellucci?
-Erik
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Sep 6, 2008 8:39 PM EDT
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Was it just me, or did he make that catch look harder than it was?
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Sep 6, 2008 8:46 PM EDT
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it’s not just you – i thought that’s what he did, too
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 8:48 PM EDT
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Hey, Voltaire, apparently Jack Zachson has a rabbit, too
by Logodaedalus on
Sep 6, 2008 8:48 PM EDT
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my guess is his isn’t called “bun bun” though
by APV on
Sep 6, 2008 8:49 PM EDT
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Underwood said he pulled one out of his hat on that DP
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Sep 6, 2008 8:51 PM EDT
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I should adopt it and have it breed with my rabbit. Which I may or may not even have. Then I can name each baby rabbit after an endearing Tribe prospect.
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 8:52 PM EDT
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Underwood said he pulled one out of his hat on that DP
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Sep 6, 2008 8:56 PM EDT
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I should adopt it and have it breed with my rabbit. Which I may or may not even have. Then I can name each baby rabbit after an endearing Tribe prospect.
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 8:56 PM EDT
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what are the chances this Deniro/Pacino movie is really good?
by APV on
Sep 6, 2008 8:49 PM EDT
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When have those C-listers ever made a movie together that was any good?
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Sep 6, 2008 8:50 PM EDT
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I can’t get a read on that, they seem to be relying a lot on the fact that Pacino and DeNiro are in it
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Sep 6, 2008 8:50 PM EDT
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yeah, that’s the vibe i’ve been getting as well
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Sep 6, 2008 8:51 PM EDT
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It doesn’t actually look like I’d want to see it, from the previews. Haven’t read any reviews though.
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Sep 6, 2008 8:52 PM EDT
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You’d think they’d play up 50 Cent being in it more, since I have to imagine they took him as a name, and not as talent.
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Sep 6, 2008 8:53 PM EDT
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They are probably one and two for me all time in terms of favorite actors. I’d love for it to be good, but I have my serious doubts. De Niro looks horrible. The director is the same guy who directed 88 minutes which blew. But it’s from the writer of Inside Man so I can hold out some hope.
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Sep 6, 2008 8:50 PM EDT
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I actually do like him, and have since he was in Seattle.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Sep 6, 2008 8:57 PM EDT
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I’ve chosen to target Garko with my (ir)rational disgust
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Sep 6, 2008 8:58 PM EDT
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it’d be a good time to choose the “ALL” door, Kelly
by APV on
Sep 6, 2008 8:58 PM EDT
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boo. 10 Ks.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Sep 6, 2008 8:59 PM EDT
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HIRE THAT MAN.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Sep 6, 2008 9:01 PM EDT
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Bringing his postseason OPS to, like, 5.300…
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Sep 6, 2008 9:02 PM EDT
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THEY CANT LOSE
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Sep 6, 2008 9:00 PM EDT
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Gil KKKKKKKKKKa Meche.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Sep 6, 2008 8:59 PM EDT
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Soriano’s got 3 homers in 6 innings.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Sep 6, 2008 9:01 PM EDT
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sure.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Sep 6, 2008 9:02 PM EDT
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I blame JP.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Sep 6, 2008 9:02 PM EDT
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This game is so bland and depressing that I just realized I’m listening to the new New Kids on the Block album.
by JRontherim on
Sep 6, 2008 9:03 PM EDT
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I am glad that was not actually hit as well as it looked.
by Voltaire on
Sep 6, 2008 9:05 PM EDT
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Marte home run to lead off the inning. I’M CALLING IT.
by JRontherim on
Sep 6, 2008 9:09 PM EDT
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I call a single.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Sep 6, 2008 9:10 PM EDT
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I thought 11 sucked. That’s right, I’m man enough to admit it.
by JRontherim on
Sep 6, 2008 9:10 PM EDT
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I don’t think it’s a movie built on believability
by APV on
Sep 6, 2008 9:13 PM EDT
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I think I fell asleep while watching it. Which hadn’t happened since Babe 2: Pig in the City.
…In the theatre.
by JRontherim on
Sep 6, 2008 9:13 PM EDT
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I really thought it skillfully captured the inner conflict and struggle of the average American blackjack dealer
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Sep 6, 2008 9:13 PM EDT
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Sheets with the CG 1-0 win.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Sep 6, 2008 9:15 PM EDT
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Really? We got 2 scoreless out of him yesterday. Are we pushing Mujica to escape the level of absolute suck?
by JRontherim on
Sep 6, 2008 9:17 PM EDT
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No walks, 13 groundouts. Not a bad outing from Zache. Would have been better if Benfran had been a little better.
by APV on
Sep 6, 2008 9:17 PM EDT
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Eddie Moo strikes fear in the hearts of hitters…and cattle
by APV on
Sep 6, 2008 9:23 PM EDT
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Dellucci just went 0/4 with 4 K’s. Good use of the DH.
by JRontherim on
Sep 6, 2008 9:26 PM EDT
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yes, first pitch out, get it over quickly Benny
by Fios on
Sep 6, 2008 9:27 PM EDT
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Jhonny walks, BLC ties it with a swing.
by Logodaedalus on
Sep 6, 2008 9:27 PM EDT
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geez, ends before I can even post.
by Logodaedalus on
Sep 6, 2008 9:28 PM EDT
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nice rally.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Sep 6, 2008 9:29 PM EDT
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Well, time to go hit on slutty Asian girls to fill the whole in my heart that the Indians create.
by JRontherim on
Sep 6, 2008 9:32 PM EDT
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if by “slutty Asian girls” you mean scotch…yes
by APV on
Sep 6, 2008 9:34 PM EDT
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wait, we lost? damn. there go the playoffs.
by Gradyforpresident on
Sep 6, 2008 10:03 PM EDT
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Maybe we should have drafted Conor Gillaspie?
Isn’t this a stupid way to handle a guy who probably wasn’t signed to a major league contract?
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Sep 6, 2008 10:12 PM EDT
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wow thats a bad organization
by Gradyforpresident on
Sep 6, 2008 11:08 PM EDT
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There’s hope after all of us acquiring Cain and Lincecum for peanuts.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on
Sep 6, 2008 11:28 PM EDT
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Trying to decide if this is dumber than giving Erstad a two-year deal.
I think this is dumber, but it’s a tough call.
I almost feel like Ed Wade deserves the benefit of the doubt, that whatever move he’s made is the dumbest, for reasons I may not be aware of.
by Jay on
Sep 7, 2008 11:43 AM EDT
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Thinking about it some more. Gillaspie won’t use up an option this season, and he’ll be granted a fourth option for his fifth pro season, 2012, if he needs it. So this really only backfires for the Giants if for some reason he’s not ready to stick during the 2013 season, and he’ll turn 26 in July 2013. At that point he’s more or less a bust already – of course, we also said that about the Guthrie and are saying it about Aubrey.
So this move probably doesn’t screw up Gillaspie as an asset too badly. The real problems with it are: (1) there’s no real value in making the move at all, (2) it sets a bad precedent, and (3) it recklessly takes up a 40-man spot this offseason, next offseason and the 2009 regular season in between. The best defense you can make of the move is that the 40-man spot doesn’t matter to them right now, because they’re not contending in 2009 and their minor league depth sucks anyway.
by Jay on
Sep 7, 2008 12:41 PM EDT
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