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Oh hey, now I remember why we were all so excited about Adam Miller a few years ago:

"I mean, he was carving these guys up," the scout said. "A nasty slider, too. Attacked hitters. Threw strikes. If he stays healthy, he’s going to be something to reckon with down the road."

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Smith/Perez in the seventh, Miller/Lewis in the eighth, Wood in the ninth.

by Ryan on Jan 16, 2009 12:10 PM EST reply actions  

Betancourt as the first guy out of the pen, sixth or earlier? Wow, how the mighty have fallen.

by woodsmeister on Jan 16, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not ready to write off Raffy B

by Roger Dorn on Jan 16, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Me neither.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Jan 16, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Or how the young have risen?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jan 16, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

fangraphs has recently added some sort of pitching wins added stat to its site. check out Betancourt’s 2007, then compare it to other great relievers.

by APV on Jan 16, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I too am not ready to give up on Raffy B.

Just think if Raffy B. does rebound from 2008 (and his track record would suggest he’s likelier to rebound from 2008 than continue that trend; that DOESN’T mean he’ll be as good as he was in 2007, but if he returns to his 2004-2006 form, that will still be a considerable improvement over 2008), we could potentially shorten the game to 5 innings (i.e. our starters would only have to go 5 solid innings).

As a result, perhaps that questionable #3-#5 slots in the rotation won’t be as weak or problematic as we may think if Betancourt rebounds and the rest of that bullpen is as good as expected. Of course, this doesn’t mean I want the #3-#5 starters to only go 5 IP each time out, but it’d be nice to have that bullpen strength to back up those #3-#5 starters if they falter in some of their starts.

Just my 2 cents.

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Jan 18, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Masa during the seventh inning stretch…

by Logodaedalus on Jan 16, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

i am punting on masa yet

by Brick. on Jan 16, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

His early stats weren’t that bad, he just had no stamina for a full ML season. I give him some benefit of the doubt he can be somewhat effective until proven otherwise in April.

Still the local "Barfield Bounces Back Believer" and confident that there's still a lot of Pronk in Hafner. Oh, and for all the love of Cliffy, there's still a Sleepy Kitten inside.

by mjmarble on Jan 16, 2009 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

i mainly want to use him in games that are out of hand.

by Brick. on Jan 17, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

…loosening up at the speed pitch machine behind section 140.

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Jan 16, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

i’m not punting on betancourt yet.

by Brick. on Jan 16, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Noone is I think …. but look at it this way.

first game of a series, use Smith in the seventh, Lewis in the eighth, Wood in the ninth.
second game: Perez in the seventh, Miller in the eighth, Wood in the ninth
third game: Lee pitches into 7th, Betancourt in 8th, Lewis in ninth.

No need to throw a reliever in three straight games if they all throw to their capabilities.

by talonk on Jan 16, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Get out the brooms!

"...leading the league in most offensive categories. Including nose hairs."

by sarcasmdave on Jan 16, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Needs more Meloan.

Seriously we need to be awesome.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jan 16, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

If the Indians have a bad bullpen this year I’m going to be massively upset.

I mean EPIC.

by world dictator on Jan 16, 2009 2:07 PM EST reply actions  

I should also point out that you left out the best part. Miller’s fastball has been in the 96-98 mph range.

by world dictator on Jan 16, 2009 2:09 PM EST reply actions  

Is it bad that I first read the headline sans the “W” in in the “DWL”.

by hans on Jan 16, 2009 2:31 PM EST reply actions  

Me too. It’s only natural.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jan 16, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Same here. I was frightened.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Jan 16, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I was non-plussed

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Jan 16, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Adam Miller, why can’t I quit you?

by APV on Jan 17, 2009 12:10 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

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