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I Demand Hey Jaysie

What, Jay is allowed to have a life outside of doing Paul Hoynes' job for him?

Look, I know it's been three days, but I just saw this, and it's another disaster. Reading that column makes me want to stab myself with a morning star. Jay, I urge you to break it down like Andre 3000.

I mean, the questions he chooses deserve instant derision.

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I thought Hoynsie did a real good job with this one. It looked accurate enough to me. He handled the Omar question especially well. If I were Hoynes I’d have already setup my email to filter out messages containing the text “Omar”, “Little O”, etc.

by jhon on Jan 6, 2009 9:18 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought the same thing when I read it. This one seemed better than his usual effort.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Jan 6, 2009 9:48 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You’re patently insane. Did you read his responses to questions 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 9, and 10?

If Jay responds to the same list, you’ll see the difference.

by tabler84 on Jan 6, 2009 10:39 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lemme look again. Hmm, I guess the answer to 2 is a little cryptic.

I guess I don’t have the same problem with these pieces (the originals) that others do, because I think of Hoynes as an absent LGT poster and not a baseball expert.

by jhon on Jan 6, 2009 11:19 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Patently insane?? Not just insane?

I’m not saying he would answer the questions as well as Jay would, I’m saying I didn’t think some of those answers were as bad as his usual answers.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Jan 7, 2009 7:28 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well sure, but given the usual responses and the fact that Hoynes is writing to a broader (i.e. dumber) audience, this isn’t nearly as bad as usual.

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Jan 7, 2009 10:01 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree. I thought, given the different standards for “politeness” and so forth, his answers were pretty reasonable.

by Logodaedalus on Jan 7, 2009 11:52 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I started to get into a discussion with someone about Jhonny earlier this week. I found that when they compare Jhonny to Omar with negativity towards the former it’s a good barometer of when to politely end the conversation.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jan 6, 2009 10:33 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Signing free agents seems like such an easy way to help a struggling organization. Do players not want to play for the Indians organization?

WOW WOW WOW

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Jan 6, 2009 11:43 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well now, some players don’t want to play in Cleveland, and I’m sure we pop up on many a no-trade clause, but that more to do with geography and nothing to do with our organization (which I feel is as good as it gets).

by jhon on Jan 7, 2009 12:01 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The egregious part is really the first sentence.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jan 7, 2009 12:18 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Right. But I couldn’t leave out the second.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Jan 7, 2009 12:21 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To be fair, Hoynsie does emphatically reject the first sentence.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jan 7, 2009 2:19 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, that was good to see. Someone needs to write a big article in the PD explaining free agency and baseball economics and how to build a team. That would really help to educate the public and maybe we’d stop hearing all this whining about not signing free agents. Too bad there’s nobody at that paper capable of writing such an article.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Jan 7, 2009 7:36 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This makes me want to punch Ichiro in the face.

"...leading the league in most offensive categories. Including nose hairs."

by sarcasmdave on Jan 7, 2009 12:19 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

By wow wow wow, do you actually mean

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jan 7, 2009 12:26 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I luv that guy! Talk about your prototype hill-billy carnie, that’s the guy! And, hey look! – he’s even selling those vegtable choppers – fantastic! Him and the other annoying shill with the beard – it’s like a 2:00 AM visit from the Ghost of Shlock Past.

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Jan 7, 2009 12:29 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was just going to mention that veggie chopper thingie he was pitching. I was laughing the whole time – whether they intended to or not, it was great comedy.

by Ryan on Jan 7, 2009 12:33 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The bearded one—Billy Maze I think—has at least been poking fun at himself recently.

I wonder if this stuff actually works. You’d think the world would be filled with nothing but ShamWows and AwesomeAugers and whatnots.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jan 7, 2009 12:51 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Of course it works. Like H.L. Mencken said, “nobody ever went broke under estimating the American public.”

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Jan 7, 2009 12:52 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

“…underestimating the intelligence of the American people.”

by odradek on Jan 8, 2009 12:35 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mencken was a douche.

Signature to be named later.

by emd2k3 on Jan 8, 2009 1:40 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why do you say that? I like him.

by odradek on Jan 8, 2009 5:42 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just stirring the pot. I have no idea if he was a douche.

Signature to be named later.

by emd2k3 on Jan 9, 2009 4:44 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The quote book I’m looking at said “………underestimating the taste of the American people.” Here check under “N”. But then again, I’ve seen it your way too. But that’s why I cut the extra noun out.

by mauichuck on Jan 8, 2009 11:18 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, I’ve tried to chase it down before, and found different versions. Maybe HLM didn’t even say it.

by odradek on Jan 9, 2009 12:24 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great quotes, by the way:

“I never smoked a cigarette until I was nine.”

by odradek on Jan 9, 2009 12:28 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Boy, that’s a close race to the bottom.

I’m going to go out on a limb and say that American taste is worse than American intelligence.

by Jay on Jan 9, 2009 1:49 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if I wasn’t busy watching repeats of friends and sipping PBR I’d probably agree with you

by APV on Jan 9, 2009 9:30 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if I wasn’t busy watching obsessing over repeats of friends and sipping chugging PBR I’d probably agree with you

fixed

by APV on Jan 9, 2009 9:31 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i feel like this is an affront to me

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.

by Gradyforpresident on Jan 9, 2009 10:55 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if it is, it is an affront to us (thought I do despise Friends – but I despise myself equally for having watched, I’m pretty sure, the show in its entirety)

by APV on Jan 9, 2009 10:59 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

friends is much better if you despise it first and then watch it

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.

by Gradyforpresident on Jan 9, 2009 2:11 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The very act of your saying it proves the opposite is true.

by odradek on Jan 9, 2009 11:03 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bookmarked.

My english prof would talk about Mencken all the time, but never forced us to read anything of his – so I didn’t.

The first 12-15 of those that I read were mostly pretty good.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Jan 9, 2009 1:25 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did you see the commercial for the ESPN website (I think)? That one was pretty funny. He was making fun of himself and those kind of commercials.

I can’t stand that guy’s voice, how he’s yelling all the time. I always mute the TV when they come on.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Jan 7, 2009 7:32 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can’t stand that guy’s voice, how he’s yelling all the time.

HOW DARE YOU BRAD.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jan 7, 2009 8:14 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   2 recs

That’s not a hillbilly. He sounds like he’s from New Jersey (?) or Long Island.

by odradek on Jan 8, 2009 12:11 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually I think I hear a little Bakersfield CA in his voice .

by mauichuck on Jan 8, 2009 10:00 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was in Ohio for Christmas and saw this. Made me laugh too, I mean how can one man be so legitimately enthusiastic about a shammy…and why the head set?!

Also, as an aside, the snuggies commerical was bizzare too

by Luis (Tribe Fan in London) on Jan 7, 2009 3:28 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Beware. Snuggies are trying to get you into a cult. A Snuggies cult.

Signature to be named later.

by emd2k3 on Jan 7, 2009 11:07 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All I’m saying is I hope those things are flame retardent

by APV on Jan 7, 2009 11:35 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what a stupid product, who would purchase that?

One of these days... bang, zoom, straight to the moon...

by mixmasterasia on Jan 7, 2009 4:07 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is that the Polyphonic Spree?

by odradek on Jan 7, 2009 7:18 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes. Google image search “snuggies cult” = Polyphonic Spree.

Signature to be named later.

by emd2k3 on Jan 8, 2009 1:41 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good music, though.

by Voltaire on Jan 8, 2009 2:26 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I doubt this.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Jan 9, 2009 1:25 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know this is wrong.

by NickFantana on Jan 9, 2009 1:45 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

About what you’d expect from a deranged Snuggles cult.

by odradek on Jan 9, 2009 2:24 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don’t know, the Padres mascot doesn’t seem to mind the Snuggies too much…

by cclemens31 on Jan 7, 2009 12:42 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My sister got a Slanket for Christmas. It’s pretty sweet.

by jhon on Jan 7, 2009 12:50 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey Andrew, this is a comiclife just waiting to happen.

-Erik

by drerikbrady on Jan 7, 2009 12:59 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shapiro’s house is littered with slankets.

by afh4 on Jan 7, 2009 3:41 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is that your sister?

by hans on Jan 7, 2009 2:04 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Naw, slanket model. Looks a little like her though.

by jhon on Jan 7, 2009 2:09 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought about posing this question. But having met jhon, I had a hard time believing and she and he would’ve come from the same gene pool. Crazier things have happened, but it just seemed too unlikely.

-Erik

by drerikbrady on Jan 7, 2009 2:22 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ohh burn. You must be confusing me with one of the others. Other than the nose, there’s a pretty striking similarity there.

If you were still in a league, the Sister’s waay outta yours, Dr. ;)

by jhon on Jan 7, 2009 3:29 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sister takes after dad. Jhon takes after Uncle Billy.

by joeee on Jan 7, 2009 4:43 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

joeee takes after some light haired blue eyed dude. No one knows.

by jhon on Jan 7, 2009 4:58 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But resembling an old milkman perhaps?

-Erik

by drerikbrady on Jan 7, 2009 5:11 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that looks so comfortable

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.

by Gradyforpresident on Jan 7, 2009 2:36 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Careful, you’re getting sucked in.

-Erik

by drerikbrady on Jan 7, 2009 2:39 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah but it looks so warm too

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.

by Gradyforpresident on Jan 7, 2009 3:45 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I highly recommend the Slanket™.

by jhon on Jan 7, 2009 4:05 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can’t wait to see the first person wearing one to an April Tribe game. Beer, meet Snuggie.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jan 7, 2009 4:09 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Is that Darth Somebody?

by Jay on Jan 7, 2009 4:14 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Er, not that I would know. But it’s an Imperial guard. They just stand there when the Emperor is around and look hard.

I can’t believe you didn’t know this. What a dork.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jan 7, 2009 4:15 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they look so hard, in fact.

i’m going to cut myself off before i embarrass myself.

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.

by Gradyforpresident on Jan 7, 2009 4:58 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Champ, I think you need to stop talking for awhile. Why don’t you go ahead and sit the next couple plays out.

by joeee on Jan 7, 2009 5:47 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

/Kerry Wood.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jan 7, 2009 6:17 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Darth Gutierrez

by APV on Jan 7, 2009 4:36 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Darth Snuggie. He gets no respect from anyone else who’s turned to the Dark Side.

by woodsmeister on Jan 7, 2009 4:48 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Darth Wedge. A member of the little known Pansy Siths. They aren’t particularly powerful, but they know how to completely F-up use of a bullpen.

-Erik

by drerikbrady on Jan 7, 2009 5:14 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Does that make Andy Marte a padawan?

Signature to be named later.

by emd2k3 on Jan 8, 2009 1:42 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The force is not strong with Andy Marte.

by woodsmeister on Jan 10, 2009 11:24 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Am calling it now … IF ( a huge if) Derosa goes down early in the year, Marte will hit .270, with 15 HRs, and 65 RBIs, with a slew of Sac Bunts from the 9 hole.

by talonk on Jan 11, 2009 1:05 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Darth Jackass. I mean, c’mon. Dude under that red cloak is FAT. He must pitch for the Yankees.

by tabler84 on Jan 7, 2009 6:13 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Well it has one part in there commercial where the whole family wears their snuggies to a soccer game to illustrate how it can keep you warm outdoors too, so you never know!

by Luis (Tribe Fan in London) on Jan 8, 2009 3:49 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s the dumbest part of the whole commercial. They look like they’re sitting on bleachers in their backyard watching their family play football (I thought it was football?). Who would wear one of those things to a sporting event? I could see wearing it sitting around the house, but taking it to watch a game? Really??

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Jan 8, 2009 7:29 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not particularly sure if it was soccer or football…but yeah, I mean, how deluded would you have to be to get the whole family to sit in those in public…your would scar your children for life

by Luis (Tribe Fan in London) on Jan 8, 2009 7:48 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Clearly you haven’t been watching American football. People will dress their toodlers up like professional wrestlers just for the chance to be seen on TV. Talk about psychic trauma!

by mauichuck on Jan 8, 2009 10:02 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha…I guess I don’t because that sounds truley ridiculous. But then again, I drove past Browns Stadium when they played the Bengals before Xmas and you had to be mad to sit out in that weather…or very drunk!

by Luis (Tribe Fan in London) on Jan 8, 2009 11:32 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i giggled in my head almost the entire time when i saw that ad. what a stupid stupid idea for a product.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Jan 7, 2009 1:46 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For people like me who love infomercials, this is Beethoven’s 5th Symphony, this is The Contest, this is Starry Night, this is the best there has ever been — utterly worthless product based on entirely absurd premise sold by actors who are apparently from outer space. It’s a masterpiece. And I should add that my 7-year-old daughter Elizabeth just came in her and watched the infomercial and said, "I want a Snuggie." I’m beaming. Like father like daughter.

http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/01/07/snuggies/

by TheDanimal on Jan 7, 2009 3:26 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hah

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Jan 7, 2009 3:43 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My 5 year old son desperately wants a Snuggie. He has cut out Snuggie ads from the Sunday paper.

Signature to be named later.

by emd2k3 on Jan 8, 2009 1:44 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha — I just say that commercial like 30 seconds ago!

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Jan 7, 2009 7:33 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I never understood why he has that headset…

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Jan 7, 2009 10:02 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe he also answers the calls when people place orders. To sell such a great product at such a low price, you have to cut back somewhere.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Jan 7, 2009 10:56 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love that thought

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Jan 7, 2009 11:40 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why? It practically pays for itself. You spend $20 on paper towels every month anyway.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jan 7, 2009 4:09 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I got about half a gin and tonic through my nose the other night when I heard that line the other night. I think it’s safe to say that I’ve spent slightly less than $20 on paper towels since I graduated from undergrad … in 1998.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jan 7, 2009 4:37 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i had to look this up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwRISkyV_B8

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Jan 7, 2009 5:50 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If you spend $20 a month on paper towels, you’ve got to be the messiest person on the planet.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Jan 7, 2009 7:20 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or a paper towel collector. Like me.

Signature to be named later.

by emd2k3 on Jan 8, 2009 1:49 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When I read Hoynes piece I thought that this one just begged for a hey jaysie piece.

by world dictator on Jan 7, 2009 12:24 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So is this the Manos, the Hands of Fate of Hey, Hoynsie?

by Ryan on Jan 7, 2009 12:34 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love that movie.

by KevinV on Jan 7, 2009 1:11 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Its hard for me to imagine a human being loving that movie.

by hans on Jan 7, 2009 2:06 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sigh.

I miss Mystery Science Theatre 3000.

by woodsmeister on Jan 7, 2009 9:50 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Samsies.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jan 7, 2009 4:10 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was just discussing that in my kitchen on Monday night.

by NickFantana on Jan 7, 2009 12:56 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not by far. But points for the Manos reference.

by world dictator on Jan 7, 2009 1:31 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Really proud to have no idea what you guys are talking about.

by Jay on Jan 7, 2009 3:20 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

same.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Jan 7, 2009 3:44 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why would I follow that link?

by Jay on Jan 7, 2009 4:47 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s a wikipedia article about the movie Manos: The Hands of Fate, which, according to many is the worst movie ever made. It’s pretty thorough.

by woodsmeister on Jan 7, 2009 4:50 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s a trick! I know it!

by Jay on Jan 7, 2009 5:13 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rick Rolling is so last year.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jan 7, 2009 6:20 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Isn’t Plan 9 From Outer Space supposed to be the worst?

by Jay on Jan 7, 2009 5:13 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Somebody made me start watching that by saying it was the worst movie ever made so I thought it might be funny bad, but it just plain sucked. I quit watching after twenty minutes.

by ClarkM on Jan 7, 2009 5:15 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Depends on who you ask. They’re both pretty awful.

by woodsmeister on Jan 7, 2009 7:24 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Plan 9 at least appears to have some sort of plot, pacing, scripting. etc.

Manos? It has really none of those, as far as I can tell.

Signature to be named later.

by emd2k3 on Jan 8, 2009 1:46 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come on Jay, everybody’s doin’ it. Peer pressure. That’s why.

-Erik

by drerikbrady on Jan 7, 2009 5:12 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

MST3K is one of the greatest television series ever created.

There. I said it.

Signature to be named later.

by emd2k3 on Jan 8, 2009 1:45 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

“I thinmk the tribe should go with 4 startes and the rest in the BP. I think by using a 5 man rotation gives the pitcher too much rest and he get rusty. Another I dra if they insist on a 5 man rotation let them start 1 day off the next day and be in BP for 3 and use him 1 or 2 innings and off the day before his start. This way they are kept loose and the other team won’t know what we are doing. Try it Eric or Get out of Town.”

I know there are a lot of gems out there in the cleveland.coms of the world, but that was one of my favorites ever.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jan 7, 2009 12:42 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s pretty airtight.

by NickFantana on Jan 7, 2009 12:56 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The best part being the ending argument:

“Eric, try my radical, reckless, heinously bad idea that no one uses for a very good reason or Get out of Town.”

by Pronktastic on Jan 7, 2009 1:14 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   2 recs

He forgot to add “READ THIS WEDGE” at the end.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Jan 7, 2009 1:56 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The appeal of a 4 man rotation is not that they become rusty, it’s that you are taking away starts from an inferior pitcher, the 5th starter. The drawback is the health concerns from both the workload and pitching on, at times, 3 days rest.

As to this guy’s other point, having starting pitchers throw their bullpen sessions in an actual game, didn’t somebody do this recently, not as practice, but as a one time thing?

by ClarkM on Jan 7, 2009 1:51 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As to this guy’s other point, having starting pitchers throw their bullpen sessions in an actual game, didn’t somebody do this recently, not as practice, but as a one time thing?

This has happened around the All-Star break and during the playoffs.

by talonk on Jan 7, 2009 1:57 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It happens several times a year during the regular season, I do believe. Wang with NY is the only one I specifically remember from last year, though.

by Voltaire on Jan 7, 2009 8:12 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think Halladay did it last season, and I think Clemens did it not too long ago.

by Jay on Jan 7, 2009 11:32 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I knew we had discussed a four man rotation before …. i think this is the correct link.

by talonk on Jan 7, 2009 2:06 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We also had a discussion about it some time last year, I think. We were talking about an article in “Baseball Between the Numbers” that suggested going back to 4-man rotations. The details of the article are foggy and I lent my copy of the book to a coworker so I can’t check right now.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Jan 7, 2009 3:18 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Those were the days. I used to make Fanposts with ideas, ideas backed with links and stuff.

I can’t wait for the season to start. Let’s rec some more sh**.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jan 7, 2009 4:14 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   2 recs

If that’s a real comment, and not a gorgeous fake, it’s in the top five. Maybe top three.

by tabler84 on Jan 7, 2009 2:27 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cleveland.com should require specific links for verification purposes.

by fwembt on Jan 7, 2009 3:20 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whenever I am at cleveland.com and read comments, I am reminded of the classic Steve Martin bit about playing a trick on your three-year old by talking wrong so that on the first day of school he raises his hand and asks, “May I mambo dogface to the banana patch?”

by woodsmeister on Jan 7, 2009 4:30 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   2 recs

My mom taught me the wrong colors. I went to kindergarten thinking that Sesame Street was all messed up and that yellow was called blue and vice versa. She thought it was hilarious. She’s a pretty weird lady.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jan 7, 2009 4:40 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   2 recs

I don’t think there’s any way this is true, but it’s geniusly evil if it is.

by tabler84 on Jan 7, 2009 6:11 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cleveland.com should require a reverse-aptitude test.

Signature to be named later.

by emd2k3 on Jan 8, 2009 1:48 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think to the extent that users are self-selecting, it does in fact require that test.

by Jay on Jan 8, 2009 3:08 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

“The other team won’t know what we are doing.” That’s valuable, too. No one will know what you are doing.

by odradek on Jan 7, 2009 7:24 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

sooo many rec-able posts here…

One of these days... bang, zoom, straight to the moon...

by mixmasterasia on Jan 7, 2009 4:08 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

then just rec the thread…maybe we’ll get a “hey jaysie” out of it.

by stickpiano on Jan 7, 2009 9:20 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here is this week’s Hey Hoynsie! question (the only one, in fact). I’m sure Jay can have fun with this one:

Q: Hey, Hoynsie: I’m sure you would agree that pitching, de fense and speed win championships. Given the Indians’ lack of pitching and team speed, why should Indians fans even bother showing up to games this season knowing that we can’t compete with the likes of Boston, New York, [the Angels], Detroit and Minnesota? – Don Manning, Bay Village

The Indians can’t compete with Detroit?? The last place team in the Central in 2008?!?! Even by cleveland.com standards, this one is awful.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Jan 11, 2009 5:04 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FWIW, here is Hoynes’ answer:

Hey, Don: Let’s check the numbers.

Indians starting pitchers last year had a lower ERA than the Twins, Yankees and Detroit. The Tribe’s ERA overall was lower than Detroit. The defense had a higher fielding percentage and committed fewer errors than AL Central champion Chicago, Minnesota and Detroit. Their .985 fielding percentage tied pennant winner Tampa Bay for fourth place in the American League.

The Indians’ bullpen had the fewest saves and the second highest ERA in the AL. They ranked 12th in the AL with 77 steals. Forty-nine percent of those steals belonged to one player – Grady Sizemore.

Offensively, the Indians had a higher batting average than Tampa Bay. They scored more runs than New York, Tampa Bay and the Angels.

The Indians will tell you that their pitching should be better this year because of the addition of Kerry Wood and Joe Smith to the bullpen. Under GM Mark Shapiro and manager Eric Wedge, the Indians have little regard for the stolen base. It’s not only a reflection of their roster, but an organizational belief that I’ve never agreed with.

Tampa Bay and the Angels, two playoff teams last year, ranked first and second in steals. The world champion Phillies ranked third in the NL in steals.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Jan 11, 2009 5:06 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m actually pleased with Paul’s answers here because I expected less. The main qualm I have is his knock on our baserunning. Speed schmeed, Bill James ranks us a top 5 baserunning team in all of baseball. Stolen bases isn’t everything.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jan 11, 2009 6:07 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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