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Does the continual injuries to young players bother anyone else as much as it does me? Does Shapiro need to give the Tribe's training and medical staff the boot as well? Just seems like there are far too many players going down for this team.

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welcome to the roster, Andy Marte

by APV on Oct 14, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions  

i’m assuming jordan brown caused the injury somehow.

by Brick. on Oct 14, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

By LaPorta with his car I believe.

by Brad D on Oct 14, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

By hitting Laporta with his car I believe.

by Brad D on Oct 14, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

ugh … not good news.

And why Vail? is that his offseason home?

by talonk on Oct 14, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Steadman-Hawkins is in Vail. It’s like ASMI… just no James Andrews and no Alabama. But yeah, Steadman-Hawkins is very well regarded.

My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.

by gorilla_baller on Oct 14, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steadman-Hawkins is in Vail. It’s like ASMI… just no James Andrews and its not Alabama. But in all seriousness, Steadman-Hawkins is very well regarded.

My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.

by gorilla_baller on Oct 14, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I prefer the serious version of this post.

by JRontherim on Oct 14, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

But in all seriousness, the first version was better.

My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.

by gorilla_baller on Oct 14, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

f-ingthingsucks.jpg

by Toxicadam on Oct 14, 2009 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Good grief. What next?

Want out of Cleveland? Easy - mess with LeBron's entourage.

by woodsmeister on Oct 14, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

So 4 months has him back in time for spring training, 6 months he would likely miss April. Hopefully it is not something where he will take awhile to get good at hitting again.

by Roger Dorn on Oct 14, 2009 3:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Good thing next season is just practice for 2011.

by FredOx on Oct 14, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn it damn it damn it

by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 14, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s not just players going down that has me concerned about the medical staff. It’s players still getting run out there after they got hurt.

by 7foot3 on Oct 14, 2009 6:20 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s not good either way. I believe that it’s one of two scenarios: sc a) medical staff evaluated the injury correctly and FO determined that LaPorta should play regardless. sc b) medical staff did not properly evaluate the injury in the first place, which calls their ability into question. I do not like either scenario, but given the history with Grady this year and Vic and Hafner last year, I’m leaning towards scenario a. If this is the case, I wonder if there could be any push back when it comes to signing potential free agents in the future. Don’t get me wrong, I respect a guy willing to play through injury; I just don’t think it’s a good idea in many circumstances.

by clusterchuck on Oct 14, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think its a probably “a” in your scenarios, but I think its also the front office’s willingness to allow those players that want to play thru injury to play thru it.

When I played, I broke my ankle and I tried to play thru it and it kind of messed me up at the plate because I change my swing. Kind of wonder if this might have happened with Hafner, or it its just a weak shoulder.

by MooneysRebellion on Oct 14, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree that it’s a possibility that the FO is merely willing to let the players play through injury and not forcing them to. Either way, it’s evidence of poor judgement on the part of the FO; especially in a lost season such as 2009. I could see some justification if they were making a playoff run (depending on the extent of the injury).

I guess, for me, this potentially points to a larger problem: Shapiro not taking the reigns. This is slightly off topic, but when you take into account some of these (on the surface) unrelated incidents (Wedge’s handlling of players and lineup and this discussion), I think a case could be made that Shapiro is not putting his foot down or is simply lacking in judgement; something that I hope is being sorted out.

by clusterchuck on Oct 14, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah! FIRE WEDGE!

Resident Take the Football References One Step Too Far Guy

by westbrook on Oct 14, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Maybe I’m reading too far into the article, but the hip injury was something that the team was already very aware of and were more than comfortable letting him play through. The turf toe injury, on the other hand, which was exacerbated by the run-in with the wall, was the more serious of the two. This injury occurred during the last series of the year against Boston. LaPorta wasn’t “still getting run out there after [he] got hurt,” not in the sense that the medical staff was ignoring a serious injury that could jeopardize LaPorta’s health further.

My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.

by gorilla_baller on Oct 14, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the larger point and concern, though, is that 2009 was a lost year. If LaPorta was hurt and needed surgery, why are they running him out there at the end? Especially if that surgery is going to impact 2010, which is not necessarily a lost year.

They bungled around with LaPorta, and then played him when he should have been on the shelf.

The big caveat here is that none of us are doctors (or those that are aren’t the Indians doctors) so maybe they didn’t know, maybe surgery wasn’t a sure thing, etc. But this is getting to be too much of a pattern for my liking.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Oct 15, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because if LaPorta wasn’t playing it meant more ABs for Marte. And that wasn’t going to happen.

My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.

by gorilla_baller on Oct 15, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was going to post this on the bottom, but it is the article from the PD that basically states what Soloff said and what gorilla points to above. I take it to mean that they knew the surgery on the hip was forthcoming, but the toe injury is what is jeopardizing the start of 2010.

Soloff said the injury to LaPorta’s toe was the more serious of the two. He likened it to a turf toe injury suffered by football and soccer players.
LaPorta’s hip started bothering him when he moved from the outfield to first base at Class AAA Columbus this year. After getting called on Aug. 18 by the Indians for the second time, LaPorta’s playing time increased at first and so did his pain.

Soloff said the Indians knew that LaPorta would need hip surgery at the end of the season.

by TribeJay on Oct 15, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read that article looking for an update on Adam Miller.

by Matt in LA on Oct 14, 2009 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeoman’s work, this.

The once and future

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Oct 14, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last-minute ROY push.

by Jay on Oct 14, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apr 24, 2008

Possibly eligible. Made his LGT debut more than 12 months ago but his ABs are still under the threshold.

Resident Take the Football References One Step Too Far Guy

by westbrook on Oct 14, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Possibly not eligible*

</nickjs talking to self

Resident Take the Football References One Step Too Far Guy

by westbrook on Oct 14, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

How embarrassing.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Oct 15, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now that I’m not on the university wifi, LGT works again… huh, interesting.

Anyways… I was going to fanshot this and the Jaramillo report.

I couldn’t believe that this puts LaPorta out for so long but hey… maybe he won’t be on the opening day roster. F[OUR]L.

Jaramillo is better than Shelton, but that doesn’t mean we should hire him.

Resident Take the Football References One Step Too Far Guy

by westbrook on Oct 14, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe what’s his 9 year old face was right. Jamey Carroll for a position he’s never played on a team he isn’t a member of!

by JRontherim on Oct 14, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

OH C’MON!

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Oct 14, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Like Arod's hip surgery?

Is it the same surgery Arod got? Because that certainly fixed up his problem and he came out swinging better than ever.

In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).

by V-Mart Shopper on Oct 15, 2009 1:17 AM EDT reply actions  

along with not having to keep the PEDs secret anymore.

by Chief WaDrew on Oct 15, 2009 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, and perhaps a new undetectable formula as well!

In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).

by V-Mart Shopper on Oct 15, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

OH COME THE F ON.

by gte619n on Oct 15, 2009 11:31 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

This is really the only appropriate response

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Oct 16, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

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