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Around SBN: The Gift Of The 2003 Tigers

Pure speculation (and this article mentions nothing of a trade), but with Johjima out in Seattle, might Mark Shapiro be able trade Kelly Shoppach to Seattle? Shapiro has had great success with our recent Seattle trades after all...

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Yeah, but Captain Z is now in charge of the Mariners. It won’t be quite as easy as the golden era when Bavasi was in charge.

Want out of Cleveland? Easy - mess with LeBron's entourage.

by woodsmeister on Oct 19, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

On the other hand, Bavasi never would have gone for Shoppach.

It will depend, I would guess, on what Z thinks of Shoppach’s defensive skills.

by Jay on Oct 19, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would be a fair trade among two GMs that get along pretty well together. Shapiro likes working with those people.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Oct 20, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

z

this subject will make doing this look intentional

by Brick. on Oct 19, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I literally don’t know his name, only that it starts with Z.

by Jay on Oct 19, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jack Zduriencik clearly knows nothing about playing the game, managing only three hits and three walks in 47 PA with the Appleton Foxes in 1973-74.

by FredOx on Oct 19, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting article. Cot’s makes no mention of an opt-out in his contract; I wonder if they’re not pretending it’s there just to help him save face. Few if any American players would opt out of a guaranteed deal and leave $10 million-plus on the table. It seems to me that Z must have made clear to him that a trade or even a demotion were on the table, and Johjima didn’t want to face what those scenarios would do to his standing in Japan. Also seems to me that the Japan League simply plays a much easier schedule in every respect.

by Jay on Oct 19, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

i guess any contract has an implied opt-out if neither party wants to finish it.

by Brick. on Oct 19, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think that’s really true. The CBA prevents players from agreeing to reduce the value of their contracts.

by Jay on Oct 19, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

hm, then how can they be pretending?

by Brick. on Oct 19, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

he may be “retiring,” which would allow him to forfeit any remaining guaranteed dollars.

by xrickx on Oct 19, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe cot’s just didn’t have the opt-out because it wasn’t a traditional one. more of a “can go back to japan whenever he flippin’ wants” clause.

by Brick. on Oct 19, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

That seems more likely to fly with the MLBPA.

by Jay on Oct 19, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does this mean we’re going to sign Yu Darvish?!?!?!?

by gte619n on Oct 19, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

(It’s the offseason and I’m bored.)

by gte619n on Oct 19, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

INDIANS HIRE VALENTINE AS BRIDGE TO †Ø¶•†ˆSEX¶•ª¶§•ª•¶∞§¢ *

If I knew how to type Japanese, I would.

Resident Take the Football References One Step Too Far Guy

by westbrook on Oct 19, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh. I think this guy has enough talent to warrant his own nickname. This “2.0” crud is very 90s. How about Dice-2-K instead?

No, not you. Your helmet!

by PatBordersHelmet on Oct 20, 2009 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Whirling Darvish?

Wait 'til next millennium!

by emd2k3 on Oct 20, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think this is the only natural nickname.

by gte619n on Oct 20, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

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