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The LA Times is reporting that the Tribe has received permission from the Angels to speak to bench coach Ron Roenicke about their managerial job. It is unclear when Roenicke, who has spent 10 seasons with the Angels under Manager Mike Scioscia, six as a third base coach and the last four as the bench coach, would interview for the position, or if he has already been interviewed. If Roenicke were to get the job, he would be the third coach off Scioscia's staff to be hired as a manager, following Joe Maddon (Tampa Bay) and Bud Black (San Diego).

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Interesting…..so is the list of finalists getting bigger or smaller?

by GoTribe028 on Oct 23, 2009 10:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Neither. Different.

by peter m on Oct 23, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so, it wasn’t mattingly shapiro hinted about…

by Brick. on Oct 23, 2009 11:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sure seems that way now…

In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).

by V-Mart Shopper on Oct 23, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t necessarily read it that way. I think both might be candidates.

by APV on Oct 23, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

seems like the simplest explanation, though from the other day:

GM Mark Shapiro met with reporters today, following Manny Acta’s formal interview for the Tribe’s managerial vacancy, and revealed that four candidates are in the hunt for the job.
Finally, there is another candidate whose identity Shapiro did not reveal. Shapiro just said that this candidate currently has other responsibilities — the implication being that he is still involved in the postseason.

if there was only one guy, Roenicke fits that description. if they’ve added another since, then fine. but i read it as mattingly was jusy an incorrect guess.

by Brick. on Oct 23, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If so, did they float Mattingly’s name merely to guage fan/media response?

In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).

by V-Mart Shopper on Oct 23, 2009 11:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know if the Indians do much floating. If I were them, floating Mattingly’s name, it would be as a distraction. Let them fixate on Mattingly while we get our work done.

by Jay on Oct 23, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have the Indians really floated Mattingly’s name? They said Mattingly was in the original round of phone interviews, and Castro put him in the Group of Four, but Shapiro has always declined comment on Mattingly.

by FredOx on Oct 23, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you’re right. They didn’t deny it, though.

by Jay on Oct 23, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When I say float, I mean not denying it. They did come out and say that Fryman was not a finalist, and I forget who now, but one other guy who phone interviewed but was not a finalist. The media has all but assumed it’s Mattingly, and the tribe has not commented one way or the other except that he had a phone interview.

In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).

by V-Mart Shopper on Oct 23, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I had a beard, I would be stroking it in interest right now.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Oct 23, 2009 11:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Done.

Chugga-chugga chugga-chugga, Choo Choo!

by USSChoo on Oct 23, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you just give him a beard?

by cleveland teamer on Oct 23, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Giving someone a beard would be an awesome but not very useful superpower.

Want out of Cleveland? Easy - mess with LeBron's entourage.

by woodsmeister on Oct 23, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree and disagree.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Oct 23, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree to disagree

by Roger Dorn on Oct 23, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FEAR HIRSUTOR!

Wait 'til next millennium!

by emd2k3 on Oct 23, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Perhaps. I have plenty to go around at the moment.

Chugga-chugga chugga-chugga, Choo Choo!

by USSChoo on Oct 24, 2009 3:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The article linked still mentions Mattingly as a candidate. I like Roenicke, kind of surprised he wasn’t mentioned earlier.

by one two seven on Oct 23, 2009 11:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I believe Ron Roenicke is the only candidate for the job with an undefeated record as a major league manager (4-0 in 2006).

by FredOx on Oct 23, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lovullo is too. 0-0

by Brick. on Oct 23, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Undeafeted, Unscathed, and Untied

by talonk on Oct 23, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is this a Sims-Walker reference? If it is, I believe I win. If not, please disregard.

by JonduncO on Oct 23, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this makes far more sense than mattingly or clint hurdle.

by johnf34 on Oct 23, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, far more.

by Jay on Oct 23, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really know very little about Roenicke as a coach/manager. He managed in the minors for five years in the Dodgers and Giants organizations, winning Manager of the Year in the California League in 1995 and the Texas League in 1997. I know he was in the running for the Mariners job before Hargrove was hired there. But that’s about it.

by FredOx on Oct 23, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe hargrove could be his bench coach.

by Brick. on Oct 23, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don’t like that idea. if we had a bad month or two the fans would be screaming for hargrove to take over.. im not a fan of a possible replacement manager as the bench coach

by johnf34 on Oct 23, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i’m being sarcastical.

by Brick. on Oct 23, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the fans were screaming, that would be an improvement.

by Jay on Oct 23, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who else is thinking that next year’s opening day crowd is going to resemble the opening day in the movie Major League?

by hans on Oct 23, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope. It’s still opening day.

by Jay on Oct 24, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the fans were screaming paying attention, that would be an improvement.

Want out of Cleveland? Easy - mess with LeBron's entourage.

by woodsmeister on Oct 23, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, what fans?

by odradek on Oct 24, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes … since the ability to use two names together in a sentence suggests a natural pairing. Hey, did you hear the Indians are interested in Brad Mills?

by Jay on Oct 23, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think he got the bench coach job once joe maddon left for the angels

by johnf34 on Oct 23, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s true. He was the third base coach from 2000-2006, when Maddon left for Tampa Bay.

by FredOx on Oct 23, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree. and valentine, but that’s just me.

by Brick. on Oct 23, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

im pretty sour on valentine. i’d give it to torey or acta

by johnf34 on Oct 23, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve yet to hear the case for Lovullo, other than that he exists.

by Jay on Oct 23, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am adamantly opposed to hiring a non-existent manager.

by FredOx on Oct 23, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would certainly create a leadership vacuum.

Want out of Cleveland? Easy - mess with LeBron's entourage.

by woodsmeister on Oct 23, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I wonder if Jhonny would notice.

by kennesawmountainwahoo on Oct 23, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i wrote about a few on my site yesterday. i just think he is being overlooked. there really isn’t a standout candidate in my opinion after farrell passed.

by johnf34 on Oct 23, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i do think hiring torey would be an extremely unpopular move though

by johnf34 on Oct 23, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is probably the only one I would be opposed to, no real good reason why.

by Roger Dorn on Oct 23, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

unless he changed his name to torii.

by emil minty on Oct 23, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m sure this is a professional courtesy. Not interviewing your AAA manager would be an insult and pretty much an invitation for him to look for a new organization. Especially after your short season manager got floated.

by SuddenSam on Oct 23, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that’s right.

by Jay on Oct 23, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i’m a sucker for the underdog..

by johnf34 on Oct 23, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He also looks like the default candidate. If they don’t want or can’t afford Valentine, Acta goes to Houston, Roenicke whatever……

We know Torey will take the job and he doesn’t appear to be on anyone else’s list. If the search crashes they can turn to him and avoid the embarrassment of starting over and having it look like nobody wants to manage the Indians.

This is not to suggest that Lovullo doesn’t have credentials, but I think this is his path to the job.

by SuddenSam on Oct 24, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also overlooked: Skinner. That is kind of a head-scratcher to me, although it does point up how serious they are about getting an outside perspective.

Roenicke sure is an interesting candidate, especially if you consider the Angels philosophy on hitting. I’d love to hear that part of the interview!

by Jay on Oct 23, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I remember from that Trade Everyone series: Skinner was an outstanding minor league manager.

by afh4 on Oct 24, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am constantly citing your observation on that.

by Jay on Oct 24, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, for a second there I thought you were just butchering “Torre.” I was going to be snide for two non-existent reasons.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Oct 23, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, Olney just said Mattingly is the frontrunner for the job. He couldn’t be wrong. He just couldn’t.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Oct 23, 2009 12:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that’s just the only one he’s heard of.

by Brick. on Oct 23, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

got a link?

by johnf34 on Oct 23, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it was in his insider column.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Oct 23, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Couldn’t find it. Maybe he changed it?

by Jay on Oct 23, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm. Must have.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Oct 24, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Possibly in response to this very story.

by Jay on Oct 24, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

October 24, 2007: ESPN says Mattingly leading candidate for the Yankees job. He’s always the front-runner, until he’s not.

by FredOx on Oct 23, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

should learn some patience and draft off the other candidates…

by Brick. on Oct 23, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He needs a little shake and bake!

Want out of Cleveland? Easy - mess with LeBron's entourage.

by woodsmeister on Oct 23, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll take him for sure if we get him and Lackey as a package deal.

Resident Take the Football References One Step Too Far Guy

by westbrook on Oct 23, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

His brother Gary had a few very good seasons as one of Earl Weaver’s platoon players.

by odradek on Oct 24, 2009 12:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wasn’t ex-Indian John Lowenstein his platoon partner?

by kennesawmountainwahoo on Oct 24, 2009 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, that’s right. In 1982 they were an awesome tandem.

by odradek on Oct 26, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: The Mattingly discussions above, according to this AP report on ESPN the Tribe is bringing both Mattingly and Roenicke in for interviews next week. The article is about Lovullo and how much he wants to graduate to the bigs.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Oct 24, 2009 9:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow … those are going to be some awkward interviews, right?

by Jay on Oct 26, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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