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For it. Why not.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Oct 30, 2009 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I mean, what could it hurt. He’s been with a lot of the guys on our roster. Plus, I’m not sure how much I want Acta dragging along much of his former staff.

by MooneysRebellion on Oct 31, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are you implying that Randy St. Clair doesn’t inspire confidence?

The once and future

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Oct 31, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats no longer an issue as he was signed by the Florida Marlins

by GoTribe028 on Oct 31, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

“I’m part of player development, and we have our own process, as a group,” Lovullo said. “For one day, I was able to step outside of that and talk about my own personal philosophies.”

Found this interesting for some reason.

by mcrose on Oct 31, 2009 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

I think that seems to add validity to the ideas he presented about how to improve the slow starts and why they might not have been thought of or brought up previously.

Chugga-chugga chugga-chugga, Choo Choo!

by USSChoo on Oct 31, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not at ALL? C’mon.

Chugga-chugga chugga-chugga, Choo Choo!

by USSChoo on Oct 31, 2009 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s really talking about two different things. It may seem superficially like it’s the same thing, but if it were your job and your workplace, I think it would be obvious that they’re not.

by Jay on Oct 31, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough.

Chugga-chugga chugga-chugga, Choo Choo!

by USSChoo on Oct 31, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently they’ve been thought of, just not expressed. One reading of the quote is that the group thinking on player development does not encourage new ideas/philosophies that depart from whatever the current “group process” is.

by mcrose on Oct 31, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really don’t think that’s it. I think that regardless of how open the discussion is, it’s understood that once the program is set, everyone needs to be on the same page, communicating with the players (being developed) in a consistent way. All he’s saying is that for this interview, it wasn’t his job to communicate the overall program, but rather to communicate his personal views and philosophies. That doesn’t mean that there aren’t lots of discussions, and probably every year, in which elements of the program are openly debated and to some extent revised.

by Jay on Oct 31, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

With an organization so aware of process, I’m sure you’re right – they must have designated review periods where internal policies, strategies, processes, etc are discussed and debated in some way to see if they need to be revised.

Its just that he doesn’t say that. If he had been actively engaged in the past, on those days or periods where internal processes were reviewed, in stating what his personal views and philosophies were, in contrast to whatever was currently in place, then those would have been “other days” when he’d done so.

But my reading of it is that what was good about the interview to him was that it was a unique situation, “one day”, where he could talk about what he himself thinks and feels about how things should be run, which he typically just doesn’t do.

I understand that the coaches to some extent are given marching orders so that what they communicate to players is consistent across levels, etc. But what was unique about Luvullo’s interview wasn’t that finally he didn’t have to be mindful of what he needs to communicate to the players – that happens a lot, like whenever he’s not communicating with players. What made the quote jump out at me was that it gave an impression that he felt free to say stuff in the interview that he’d never really said in a formal setting, even at those previous times when he was involved in the group process of formulating player development philosophy, etc.

Of course I don’t know if that’s a valid reading, just like I don’t know exactly how the internal approaches are decided upon and how they collectively “change their mind”. The quote just jumped out at me somewhat while reading the whole piece, given how the whole subject of who makes decisions, how they’re made and how and when they change when they’re not working well has itself been a subject of review recently.

by mcrose on Oct 31, 2009 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Isn’t this headline of the “Dog bites Man” variety? What minor-league manager wouldn’t want to join a major-league staff? That’s like me saying I’d be interested in a lifetime supply of Christmas Ale.

by Ryan on Oct 31, 2009 12:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Sounds like an Onion headline: Blogger Would be Interested in Free Beer, if You’re Offering.

by FredOx on Nov 1, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean, at least I’d be willing to consider it. (Don’t want to appear overly eager.)

by Jay on Nov 2, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

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