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He appears to do it for the free golf. Millionaire or not, I respect a man who has a jones for free golf.

by jdudas on Oct 31, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Working at a golf course is one of the few pure, unadulterated freebies in this world. It is a cake job with thousands in monthly benefits if you play enough. There’s no way I would have been able to afford to play it throughout high school if I hadn’t worked at a golf course.

Chugga-chugga chugga-chugga, Choo Choo!

by USSChoo on Nov 1, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can you blame the guy? He’s got kids to feed.

Or he’s just working the reporter.

by GoTribe028 on Nov 1, 2009 12:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just seems like a simple guy. Makes me want him to succeed even more next year.

by The Grimace on Nov 1, 2009 1:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, yes .. just another regular old lunch-pail mope … like Garko … who went to Stanford …

by Jay on Nov 1, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

who went to Stanford …

 
On a scholarship.

Resident LGT results-oriented boob.

by mauichuck on Nov 1, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The top private schools aren’t all that lenient about academic requirements. Penn is a relatively huge private school and arguably not among the super-elite, but even there, the athletic scholarship kids that I met were all pretty smart anyway. If you met someone who was strikingly average in intellect, the culprit was always family money, not athletics.

by Jay on Nov 1, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You imply, I believe, that because he went to Stanford Garko comes from money. Faulty logic here. Stanford gives out 300 athletic scholarships a year. Penn, like all other Ivy League schools, is prohibited from giving athletic scholarships.

Now the one thing you can say for certain is that Garko was a good student. Ty Willingham, when he coached at Stanford, said that of the 85 kids he tried to recruit in 1989, only 10 were academically qualified to attend Stanford.

Resident LGT results-oriented boob.

by mauichuck on Nov 1, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You imply, I believe, that because he went to Stanford Garko comes from money.

I didn’t mean to imply that in the slightest. I meant to imply that Garko must be pretty damned smart to go to Stanford, even on athletic scholarship. What Willingham said supports this view.

by Jay on Nov 1, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

This was my experience at Duke.

The once and future

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Nov 1, 2009 7:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Manhattan, when did you attend Duke? I have a few friends who went there.

Wait 'til next millennium!

by emd2k3 on Nov 1, 2009 7:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He’s my year: 2006.

by afh4 on Nov 1, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Which, by the way… Meineke Car Care Bowl or bust!

The once and future

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Nov 2, 2009 7:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m going, pretty much regardless, if they make a bowl.

by afh4 on Nov 2, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m actively considering it, but December’s going to be insane for me. Also, none of these bowls are anywhere convenient.

The once and future

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Nov 3, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Too late. My friends were all in the 90s. I liked the campus when I visited.

Wait 'til next millennium!

by emd2k3 on Nov 3, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The campus is beautiful

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Nov 3, 2009 11:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It has that New England college feel, but in the South.

I went to Carnegie Mellon. Not the best campus, but not as bad as Pitt.

Wait 'til next millennium!

by emd2k3 on Nov 3, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My only problem with CMU is that ridiculous structure with humans walking into the sky.

by Roger Dorn on Nov 3, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

my only problem with CMU is the rising labor costs for using it. might as well go with cast-in-place.

by Brick. on Nov 3, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, I went to CWRU. For political science. So at least you got an education over there.

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Nov 3, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Political Science isn’t an education Turk, it’s a hobby.

Resident LGT results-oriented boob.

by mauichuck on Nov 3, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Chuck for the win.

The once and future

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Nov 3, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And a crappy hobby at that.

Why do you think I’m trying to do something different now?

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Nov 3, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, I’m probably going to add that as a minor. So, what do I know.

by Voltaire on Nov 3, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Chuck is going to have a field day with this, just so you know.

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Nov 3, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And OOH OOH OOH consult with me about professors before you do. Take everything offered by Kelly McMann. Trust me.

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Nov 3, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I have that as a minor with History as a major. It’s a lot of good information and absolutely no help in getting a job.

by fwembt on Nov 4, 2009 12:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Easy to blow that tuition when it ain’t your own money, iditid?

Resident LGT results-oriented boob.

by mauichuck on Nov 4, 2009 12:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You’d have to ask someone else on that one.

by fwembt on Nov 4, 2009 1:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, no idea.

by Voltaire on Nov 4, 2009 1:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What, you threw in 50% of the cost? OK, it’s the other 50% I’m talkin’ about.

Resident LGT results-oriented boob.

by mauichuck on Nov 4, 2009 1:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Chuck, you, like CC, are being a something of a jackass right now. What Tyler and I are saying is that we paid our own way through school. I may have played on the basketball team, but I was a walk-on and got no money for it.

by fwembt on Nov 4, 2009 9:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

fwembt, you may not know this, but I went to CWRU too, albeit quite awhile ago. When I was there – and my understanding is that this hasn’t changed much – there were few, very few, commuter students. Unlike many of theguys that go to CSU, who worked, paid their all their tuition and living expenses, and went to school when they could. Those guys, the CSU guys, “worked their way through college”. Just about every – check that, every – kid I knew at CWRU had the folks picking up a substatial portion of their college costs.

I’m not saying that every kid I knew at CWRU was being totally supported by their family. But they weren’t like some of the kids at CSU, with little – and sometimes, no – familial support.

Resident LGT results-oriented boob.

by mauichuck on Nov 4, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What does this have to do with what we are discussing? Your experience is not the be all end all.

by fwembt on Nov 4, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Then tell me I’m wrong. Tell me that there are more than a few guys at CWRU who are “putting themselves through college” like the CSU kids. I’m not saying it’s impossible, just very, very unlikely.

Resident LGT results-oriented boob.

by mauichuck on Nov 4, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Someone call the registrar to settle this ridiculous argument.

Chugga-chugga chugga-chugga, Choo Choo!

by USSChoo on Nov 4, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Aren’t the taxpayers largely putting the CSU students through school?

by Jay on Nov 4, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Those damned CSU students!

by odradek on Nov 5, 2009 12:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And you are wrong, Chuck. 1000+ of CWRUs 6000 or so students are commuters. I knew many of them well. Almost none of them were living off of mommy and daddy.

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Nov 4, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

CWRU is a lot different from what Western Reserve University used to be and probably what Chuck remembers. My parents both went undergrad to Western Reserve, no doubt paid mostly or entirely by their parents, which I know makes the whole lot of them a-holes in Chuck’s book.

by Jay on Nov 4, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ha! You guys fell for more of the class warfare nonsense bait Chuck likes to cast about.

Wait 'til next millennium!

by emd2k3 on Nov 4, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Chuck either is extremely satisfied with himself, or hates himself terribly.

One interesting note: the “parents pay for 100% of whichever expensive school you attend” notion is Brought To You by baby-boom parents. And with that, the surge of “do what you love / be creative / be an individual and It Will All Work Out” majors.

by joeee on Nov 4, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure what you’re talkin’ about here, Joe. Here’s where percentages don’t tell the story.

Here’s my point: there’s damn few spots for “scholarship kids” at places like CWRU or CMU or Michigan even than for kids whose parents can pay the freight. It’s almost analogous to the Indians and the Yankees. The kids who have that advantage don’t even acknowledge it.

Here try this sometime: take a full load at CWRU, now take 40 hours a week out of your study time/recreation/sleep budget. Try to maintain a 3.2. See if that’s a little tougher than minding the registar at the student book store 3 nights a week.

Resident LGT results-oriented boob.

by mauichuck on Nov 5, 2009 11:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Seems to me that it mostly would just mean less time getting drunk and high.

by Jay on Nov 6, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

chuck, you know I’d hazard to guess that almost everyone on this site has not lived your perfect life.

And just because we haven’t our lives just like you did, does not make any of us less true fans, Clevelanders, ort whatever else you like to put us down for.

You ridicule people because of the school they go to. You ridicule them if they got a scholorship or not. You ridicule them if they aren’t from your neighborhood, worked in the steel mills, etc.

Sorry it just grows tiresome. Enjoy your life on the islands, but stop telling us that we are infereior because we didn’t live your life. If you truly wanted to be this crotchety guy on the corner who yells at the neighborhood kids for being too noisy, move back to the old homestead in Cleveland and leave the good life in Maui. Am sure you could ridiclue all the kids in that neighborhood just fine.

by talonk on Nov 6, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

chuck, you know I’d hazard to guess that almost everyone on this site has not lived your perfect life.

And just because we haven’t our lives just like you did, does not make any of us less true fans, Clevelanders, ort whatever else you like to put us down for.

You ridicule people because of the school they go to. You ridicule them if they got a scholorship or not. You ridicule them if they aren’t from your neighborhood, worked in the steel mills, etc.

Sorry it just grows tiresome. Enjoy your life on the islands, but stop telling us that we are infereior because we didn’t live your life. If you truly wanted to be this crotchety guy on the corner who yells at the neighborhood kids for being too noisy, move back to the old homestead in Cleveland and leave the good life in Maui. Am sure you could ridiclue all the kids in that neighborhood just fine.

by talonk on Nov 6, 2009 5:52 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

To which I’ll add, if one is not born into savagery, the he has no opportunity to become a noble savage. That is not the unsavage man’s fault, and it’s ridiculous to criticize him for it.

by Jay on Nov 6, 2009 6:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You see this as criticism, it is not. What I’m looking for here is a little empathy. My Yankees/Indians analogy holds here. Can you blame a Yankee fan for being born in Manhattan? No, even I can’t blame him for that. Can you blame him for being proud of his team? Not so much but a little. Can you blame him for saying his championships – all 27 – were won fair and square? Not only yes, but hell yes!

I don’t belittle you guys for what school you go to or how you paid your tuition. What I question you for is thinking that you’ve somehow earned the prevlidge. Most of you – myself included – haven’t and should at least acknowledge that.

Resident LGT results-oriented boob.

by mauichuck on Nov 6, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

empathy? really? how is one going to accomplish this. Oh yeah, one has to brought up in tough part of town, worked a severe blue collar job, yadda yadda to achieve your sense of empathy.

You ask for empathy, but you sure have a weird way way of doing it. By instigating and denigrating. Not sure if you’ll ever achieve this empathy you are looking for.

You belittled people above who either 1-went to school on a scholarship or 2-had Mommy and Daddy pay their way.

And yes you have belittled other schools. Me in fact. Or don’t you remember trashing my Cal Poly SLO education (which I paid for in full, no handouts, no mommy/daddy help).

What privliedge is it that you think we have “earned”. To be a Cleveland fan? Sorry, but most of us were born into that. There is no earning Cleveland fandom when its in your blood. Whether you are born into the Tribe/Browns/Cavs or whatever other team one roots for, or even if one starts rooting for a team because of a favorite player, there is no earning. Everyone has that right.

Now if you think we have to “earn” to be crotchety like you, maybe I can see that.

by talonk on Nov 6, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll plead guilty to all of that – save the “belittle people…….went to school on a scholarship”. I’m a big admirer of those folks.

And talonk, hat’s off – anybody who paid for in full, on their own, for their education gets full props from me.

Here’s a little less vitriolic, condensed version of what I was trying to say. When guys like you, pay for every dollar of their tuition, they rarely, if ever, regret their course of study. My theory is that’s because they spent every dollar dearly and calculated how best to spent it.

Resident LGT results-oriented boob.

by mauichuck on Nov 7, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thomas Paine: “What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.”

by Jay on Nov 7, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t know Paine was a groundball pitcher fan

by APV on Nov 8, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jay, I almost got that tattooed on myself when I was drunk several years ago. Non sequitur, but it’s a weird memory whenever I see that quote.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Nov 8, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I certainly think that necessity makes people more practical and shrewd. I heard somewhere that the “Samurai Code” was mostly a peace-time invention by out-of-work-Samurai once one Shogun took over Japan.

But to blatantly reference your own “mountain top adventure” commits horrible sins of arrogance. I’m sure there are war veterans out there who are a lot less proud of themselves, and those guys deserve a lot more props dude.

by joeee on Nov 8, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BTW emd2k3, the Yankees/Indians thingy is class warfare too.

Resident LGT results-oriented boob.

by mauichuck on Nov 7, 2009 12:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I still don’t know what this has to do with me. We aren’t talking about generalities here, we’re talking about a specific instance. So please, Chuck, enlighten me on my college tuition.

by fwembt on Nov 5, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Since when has Chuck ever spoken in specifics in these types of discussions? It’s all generalities, all the time.

by FredOx on Nov 5, 2009 9:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Pot, meet Kettle.

Resident LGT results-oriented boob.

by mauichuck on Nov 6, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This is generally called a “bong.”

by Jay on Nov 6, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How bout this — I only went to CWRU since my dad worked there and I got free tuition. Otherwise, I could have really afforded school without incurring massive debt. So I got stuck doing political science at an engineering school. It was actually much better than I expected.

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Nov 4, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So you were playin’ with house money, is that right? Not the same thing.

Resident LGT results-oriented boob.

by mauichuck on Nov 5, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BTW, why is it whenever I hear a Arts and Crafts major bemoan his un-employability and that he shouldn’t have squandered his best shot at a real education, it’s always some kid who saw college as an extension of his adolescence? Never heard this complaint from any kid who worked his way through school. But then again we can always blame it on SSS.

Resident LGT results-oriented boob.

by mauichuck on Nov 6, 2009 12:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I am picturing Marshawn Lynch taking classes at Cal.

by Roger Dorn on Nov 1, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

heh

Resident Take the Football References One Step Too Far Guy

by westbrook on Nov 2, 2009 2:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I wasn’t insinuating that he is a simpleton. Just that for someone who is on track to make a decent chunk of money it’s nice to hear that he wants to finish off his degree and likes to do volunteer work. It also makes me smile when a major leaguer is a history geek like me.

by The Grimace on Nov 2, 2009 12:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I like how he talks about it in the same breath as volunteering at soup kitchens.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Nov 1, 2009 11:42 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

From the MLB.COM comments:

…the dude has “ryan garko of pitching” written all over him.

by JimmyAB on Nov 1, 2009 12:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

No…. please no!

Chugga-chugga chugga-chugga, Choo Choo!

by USSChoo on Nov 1, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m pretty sure you can’t play right field and pitch.

by fwembt on Nov 1, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know…dude did go to Stanford.

by JimmyAB on Nov 1, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

There are some one-dimensionalities that are more useful than others. Ridiculous raw power and left-handed pitching are two of them.

by Jay on Nov 1, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope it didn’t seem that I was in agreement with the sentiment of the quoted post.

by JimmyAB on Nov 1, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Someone needs to tell him he’ll need more than 2 weeks to backpack with his brother from England to Greece. I mean, travel time alone will eat that two weeks and they’ll never see anything but train stations and sleeper cars. Two months would be more respectable and they still would only see the major highlights. It’s not like he doesn’t have off a solid few months a year. Or the means to just do it. It’d be kinda cool to do.

I have to respect the desire to do Europe via backpacking – even if you have the means, everyone should experience that at least once.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Nov 1, 2009 6:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’ve often thought of traveling Africa by camel, but there just never seemed to be the money.

by Jay on Nov 1, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You just need a corporate sponsor.

Dasani?

Wait 'til next millennium!

by emd2k3 on Nov 1, 2009 7:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dasani tastes like metal.

Chugga-chugga chugga-chugga, Choo Choo!

by USSChoo on Nov 1, 2009 8:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Stay thirsty, my friend.

by Ryan on Nov 2, 2009 12:29 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And here I thought you were a man of leisure, a man of mystery.

You’ve shattered the dream, man. You’ve shattered the dream.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Nov 1, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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