Open Thread: AL Central Tiebreaker
by Ryan on Oct 6, 2009 5:00 PM EDT
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Baker vs. Porcello for the division.
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Hey, Craig Sager! I can’t wait to not think about you for another 11 months.
by fleerdon on Oct 6, 2009 5:07 PM EDT reply actions
8 months. NBA playoffs.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Oct 6, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I see Baker remembered to take his NotSuck this morning.
by fleerdon on Oct 6, 2009 5:14 PM EDT reply actions
It is real easy to root for this Twins team when Gomez isn’t in the lineup.
Chugga-chugga chugga-chugga, Choo Choo!
Okay, westy, you can stop giving the actual flags.
Can someone explain to me why we hate Gomez?
by Jay on Oct 6, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm interesting, I didn’t think I was alone with the actual flags.
We I hate Gomez because he annoys the $#i† out of Phifer and bunts all freaking day long. And he doesn’t “play the game the right way”.
Captain of the SS [DO NOT TRADE] CHOO
Now that I mostly got what I wanted in the late-season division race, I’m gonna get greedy:
I want detroit to be up 10-1 then give up 10 in the 8th and then have Joe Nathan blow it.
Captain of the SS [DO NOT TRADE] CHOO
Haha, just realized a tigers pitcher made an error in a playoff game.
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Would it be in poor taste to heckle Miner by holding up a cage with a paper mache dead canary in it?
by fleerdon on Oct 6, 2009 7:02 PM EDT reply actions
Too bad he’s not fat, or you could dangle a pastie from a fishing pole.
/northern Michigan joke
by fleerdon on Oct 6, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This will only make the Tigers eventual comeback win that much more satisfying.
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Force quit and move to trash.
It ensures they get to Mauer, so even if the WP goes down, I like the move here.
Chugga-chugga chugga-chugga, Choo Choo!
That’s true, and Gomez is after him in a very stupid move by Ron G. I no longer like the move.
Chugga-chugga chugga-chugga, Choo Choo!
in Nathan’s lone 2 IP game of the year, he gave up a run to KC and got the win.
Captain of the SS [DO NOT TRADE] CHOO
more significant is that 2 IP was his longest of the season and he was already at 1.2
Captain of the SS [DO NOT TRADE] CHOO
So presumably they hoped to have him pitch only 1 inning in the 9th even though the opportunity was ripe to bring him in to start the 8th. They didn’t want to run his pitch count up?
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Oct 6, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Wiki says the umpires for that series were: John McSherry, Randy Marsh, Steve Rippley, Gary Darling, Gerry Davis, Ed Montague.
So yes.
Chugga-chugga chugga-chugga, Choo Choo!
Sorry dudes,I so want theTwinsTigers towinlose this.
Fixed.
by Jay on Oct 6, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Gardenhire looks suspiciously like a Rankin-Bass creation.
Wait 'til next millennium!
by emd2k3 on Oct 6, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
It is pretty incredible at this point, but it’s hard to see it as a “good” game. I see two clubs that can’t keep opposing hitters off base, but also can’t get their own baserunners home.
by Jay on Oct 6, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, a base hit to Matt Tolbert. I thought he said “a base hit to Macktober” and was wondering who garnered this postseason nickname.
CFO of Klezmer
Looks like he made $2.85 million in incentives, with 33 starts and 199.1 IP. He was two retired batters away from another 250K.
by Jay on Oct 6, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Duensing pitched one inning in relief two days ago. I’m guessing he’s up next.
by Jay on Oct 6, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
you know, as much as i dislike both of these crap teams, the longer this goes the more the yankees must be enjoying it. i hate that this will work in ny’s advantage in any way.
Well, it does. Another reason I changed my mind and wanted the Twins to win it outright on Sunday.
by Jay on Oct 6, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, neither of these teams were beating the Yankees anyway. You still want to force those creaky old Yankee knees to play on concrete though.
by fleerdon on Oct 6, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, if anybody here wants to see Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, pop some dramamine first.
by fleerdon on Oct 6, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
From the headlines my newswriting prof would have hated category:
Posada miffed to hear Molina Burnett’s catcher
Who is Molina Burnett and why does he own a catcher?
Captain of the SS [DO NOT TRADE] CHOO
I’ve got it! Molina Burnett is an overseason team and their catcher spoke at a conference Posada attended.
Captain of the SS [DO NOT TRADE] CHOO
Favorite non-Indian in the AL Central: Granderson.
by fleerdon on Oct 6, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions
Seriously, how long til these guys have to get starters up?
by fleerdon on Oct 6, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions
If there’s a tiebreaker game, the team the winner opposes should not be given the option to play the next day.
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Respectfully, the tiebreaking team could’ve avoided that by winning an extra game in the regular season.
by fleerdon on Oct 6, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Balls. This’ll be about it.
C’mon Tigers! You’ve sucked your way out of more promising situations than this!
by fleerdon on Oct 6, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions
Man that is one unappetizing looking carafe of java in the Twins dugout.
by fleerdon on Oct 6, 2009 9:30 PM EDT reply actions
With a 4-3 lead, they should have brought in Nathan for a 2 inning save to start out the 8th. Instead they gave up the lead, then bring him in to get 5 outs anyway, tied with 1 out in the 8th? I was surprised they did not bring him out there to start the 8th. Am I wrong to think this?
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
Oh sorry, missed that, just got online, I’ll scroll up
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Oct 6, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
You don’t know anybody who hates the Twins more than I do and I still don’t want the Tigers to win.
by fleerdon on Oct 6, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
1. Yankees on concrete.
2. Financial reasons.
3. Leftover bad taste from Dombrowski mercenary teams.
by fleerdon on Oct 6, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
By which I mean, personal financial reasons.
by fleerdon on Oct 6, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I love all of your reasons. They are like my children.
by Jay on Oct 6, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
GARDENHIRE (at mound meeting): “Well, listen, you’re all a bunch of miserable s____s and I’m ashamed to be associated with you. We’re probably going to lose this, and I take no responsibility for it. Now get your sorry asses back out there and do your damn jobs. Oh, and Tolbert, I’m finished with Sweet Home Alabama, you can take it back whenever you want. Okay, break.”
by fleerdon on Oct 6, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions
I mean, at some point, you call the rest of the game a wash. Bases juiced with one out and you couldn’t drive one in.
by fleerdon on Oct 6, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Would you want your division decided by a guy’s shirt getting nicked?
Captain of the SS [DO NOT TRADE] CHOO
by westbrook on Oct 6, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It was close enough to not hitting him for a no-call.
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Oct 6, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Me neither. You can’t call something that close a “blown call.” Close plays are part of the game.
by Jay on Oct 6, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus, the guy made too big a show of it. He made it a question of the ump’s authority. You’re always gonna lose that argument.
by fleerdon on Oct 6, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh dear God the Twinkies fans have hankies. Shoot me now.
"But people are stupid, and their memories are short." - FredOx
Yeah, you’d think they could just knit their self-importance up and wave that instead.
by fleerdon on Oct 6, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If the Tigers win it, I guess we’ll be subjected to more of “The World According to Brandon Inge’s Wife”.
CFO of Klezmer
The first shot after: Nick Punto hugging Carlos Gomez. It had to be.
by fleerdon on Oct 6, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Ack. More playoff baseball in the hellhole. I hate the baseball gods.
"But people are stupid, and their memories are short." - FredOx
Nobody has lost more Division Series than the Yankees.
by Jay on Oct 6, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure, they’ve got Santana and Liriano and …
… no.
by Jay on Oct 6, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude, it’s not much of an algorithm. Yankees playing, you root for the other team — 100 percent of the time.
by Jay on Oct 6, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
How much extra moolah do the Twins make for every additional playoff series? This is pretty much the reason I was cheering against them today. I figure that the benefit the Twins’ roster will see from some playoff revenue (and the crazy crowds of this past week) will hurt our division chances more than a drop in the bucket for the Yanks or for Illich. Ah who am I kiddin, 2010 is a writeoff.
by supermarioelia on Oct 6, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you really saying there is a situation where you are OK with the Yankees winning?
Chugga-chugga chugga-chugga, Choo Choo!
I’ll maintain Jay’s words:
Yankees playing, you root for the other team — 100 percent of the time.
Chugga-chugga chugga-chugga, Choo Choo!
Without the evil that is the Yankees there is no evil in the Red Sox, evil begot evil and you must go right to the source.
Chugga-chugga chugga-chugga, Choo Choo!
Pedroia is the only reason it’s not called the Beckett scale.
"But people are stupid, and their memories are short." - FredOx
by woodsmeister on Oct 6, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
There’s a difference between pure evil and mere intolerable douchiness.
by Jay on Oct 6, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
No, just to fight fire with fire. Hence, go Twins.
by fleerdon on Oct 6, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
"But people are stupid, and their memories are short." - FredOx
by woodsmeister on Oct 6, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve never quite bought this. We’re supposed to believe that, left to their own devices, the Red Sox would never have capitalized on the size of their market and fan base to generate an unfair advantage because they were so devoted to the purity of sport? All I see is that the Yankees did it first, and better.
by fleerdon on Oct 6, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe the Yankees have the vast majority of fault. I’m just not charitable enough to absolve the Red Sox because of it.
by fleerdon on Oct 6, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think it’s absolving them by any means, just laying the blame where it rightly should fall. You don’t hate all Nazi soldiers like you hate Hitler, but it doesn’t make them good either.
Chugga-chugga chugga-chugga, Choo Choo!
Erm. Poor taste, this. What were we talking about? Baseball, yeah?
by fleerdon on Oct 6, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
First one to bring up the Nazis generally loses every argument.
"But people are stupid, and their memories are short." - FredOx
by woodsmeister on Oct 6, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Its only when I’m arguing against Chuck that I seem to have success.
Chugga-chugga chugga-chugga, Choo Choo!
Dude, you’re winning percentage is only slightly higher than the Nats.
Resident LGT results-oriented boob.
As I’ve asked before, what exactly was the noble, alternative course that the Red Sox could or should have pursued?
I don’t know that there was one. But the other AL East teams had the same problem, with lesser means of dealing with it. Nobody threw a pity party for the Blue Jays.
Red Sox fans can rationalize it any way that gets them out of bed in the morning, but that doesn’t make the organization any less a part of the problem, at least in my eyes as the fan of an underprivileged rival.
by fleerdon on Oct 6, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Red Sox fans are less tolerable than Yankees fans, in my opinion. Yankees fans are sort of smarmy, pink polo-shirt popped collar country club guys, whereas Red Sox fans are alcoholics in dirty ripped wife beaters who just won $100K in scratch off tickets.
CFO of Klezmer
Stereotype much?
"But people are stupid, and their memories are short." - FredOx
by woodsmeister on Oct 6, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
As a Sicilian, I do eat a lot of olives and drink a fair amount of wine.
As an Irishwoman, I… don’t really eat potatoes, but I like corned beef. And stout beer. I guess those count.
CFO of Klezmer
My Irish side says yes. My Polish side can’t come up with a reason.
Chugga-chugga chugga-chugga, Choo Choo!
My Austrian eighth just dropped the olive on the floor and smooshed it underfoot while you had that little internal debate.
by fleerdon on Oct 6, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
The last time I visited my parents, my mother told me that my grandmother was 1/4 “Bohemian” and that my great grandmother (paternal) used to refer to her as “the gypsy”. So technically I guess I am 1/16 Austrian, or Czech, or whatever those people are calling themselves these days.
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I know, right? I’m occasionally a little bit envious of people who can trace their lineage at all. If my hypothetical grandkids ask where my family’s from I’m just going to circle western Europe on the map.
by fleerdon on Oct 6, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn’t really think about it when I was typing. Closest guess I’ve got is something like half Irish (possibly splattered with Brit), a quarter Alsatian-German, with the last quarter split somehow between Austrian and Polish-speaking Russian. All we really know for sure is everybody was broke.
by fleerdon on Oct 7, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you have Yankees fans a bit off. The majority I come across are Jersey Shore blow-out with the awful accent.
I still maintain the critical question regarding the 2009 Tigers is this:
Were they ever good enough to consider them chokers?
you don’t have to be good to choke, you just need to be ahead. They had sole possession of first place for something like 85% of the season, including all but three days from mid-May onwards. Those two days were a day in mid-July when they were tied with the White Sox, and the final two days of the season. That is a choke.
Well, it wasn’t a ball lost in the lights…
…but it was a succession of questionable umpiring, BS skeeball near-outs, and a two-tool player scoring from second. That’s a Twins victory if ever I saw one.
by fleerdon on Oct 6, 2009 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
This is the only fitting sendoff for the dome
"But people are stupid, and their memories are short." - FredOx
by woodsmeister on Oct 6, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He looks like quite a doofus doing that, but it still bothers me.
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Oct 6, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Gerald Laird: 0 for 6, with a double play, and five runners left in scoring position with two outs. That’s positively Blakean.
How about Cabrera in the two prior losses, 0-for-8 with 2 K, never got the ball out of the infield.
by Jay on Oct 7, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
What I loved most about that game last night was the defense. There were some spectacular plays made on both sides.
It’s funny, I actually think the Twins club last year was a better team than this year. They seem to have had a better bullpen.
The defense I saw was mostly horrendous. Raburn’s lame attempt at the sliding catch, Granderson taking the wrong route to cover for him, and Polanco’s total whiff on the bouncer up the middle.
Although, Raburn did make a great throw to the plate.
Wait 'til next millennium!
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