Pavano a backup plan

If Westbrook isn't ready by April, Pavano has a decent chance to be back.

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I saw an article stating this a few days ago. I just don’t believe it. From either side.

by JRontherim on Nov 10, 2009 9:44 PM EST reply actions

Every time Pavano pitched I found myself waiting for an implosion. Sure he had his poor starts, but he managed to avoid prolonged suck-itude. I think he’s a type B FA, so the Twins would get a supplemental pick, which means the Indians wouldn’t lose a draft pick (which is nice). Pavano would make a nice place-holder while some of the younger arms get a little more seasoning, plus he provides some insurance should Westbrook go down, Carmona suck, or any of the quartet of pitchers (Masterson, Laffey, Sowers, Huff) who will likely fill the last three spots in the rotation can’t hack it. Just keep the guaranteed money low and the incentives reasonable. Bringing him back isn’t necessary, but with the right contract I could justify the move.

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by gorilla_baller on Nov 10, 2009 9:55 PM EST reply actions

The bigger news here:

Westbrook will start for Ponce and manager Eduardo Perez on Nov. 28 in Puerto Rico.

Finally convinced my dad that Jeter is immensely hatable.

by westbrook on Nov 10, 2009 10:11 PM EST reply actions

I really hope the team he is pitching against is managed by Ben Broussard.

by JRontherim on Nov 10, 2009 10:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Good one!

by ken from alexandria on Nov 11, 2009 7:16 AM EST up reply actions

I really hope they bring in Ben Broussard and his guitar to play the national anthem before the game.

Want out of Cleveland? Easy - mess with LeBron's entourage.

by woodsmeister on Nov 11, 2009 9:32 AM EST up reply actions

April? I’d think that Pavano would certainly get an offer from somebody before then, right?

FIP: 3.56
xFIP: 4.18

That’s a pretty valuable pitcher…

by gte619n on Nov 11, 2009 10:34 AM EST reply actions

And we know how obsessed they are with FIP and xFIP.

by Jay on Nov 11, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions

you get my fb msg?

by supermarioelia on Nov 11, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions

I don’t get it?

I’d assume that most front offices at least consider it…

FYI: I have no idea what the difference is between FIP and xFIP. FACT.

by gte619n on Nov 11, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions

you should have used xFACT

by Brick. on Nov 11, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

The x stands for expected. Used as a better indicator of future performance.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Nov 11, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions

In this case, it’s normalizing the percentage of flyballs allowed that became home runs. It is not considered all that reliable.

by Jay on Nov 11, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions

he’s probably a good #4 starter for somebody, but let’s not get carried away. . .

If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.

by Cap'n Snegiryov on Nov 11, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/another-look-at-starting-rotations/

by Brick. on Nov 11, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions

Never forget that Jarrod Washburn was coveted by many teams at the trading deadline.

by Toxicadam on Nov 11, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions

i forgot. and will again.

by Brick. on Nov 11, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions

This seems like sloppy reporting by Hoynes.

Consider these quotes:

He obviously pitched extremely well in Cleveland and Minnesota, so we’re going to make to make those guys priorities to talk to first and kind of branch out from there.

Mark Shapiro had nothing but great things to say about Carl and he really thought Carl was a tremendous asset to his club this year. And Carl really enjoyed the training staff and just the whole experience was solid. This was a very important year for him to really truly establish himself as one of the top starters in the game, and they gave him that opportunity.

Those are from Pavano’s agent. Then consider these quotes:

Our expectation is, at this point, that Jake will be in our rotation at the start of the year

We appreciate the job Carl did for us. He continued to pitch well for the Twins. We’ll have to see what Carl’s expectations are.

Those are from Antonetti. I translate those as the agent saying, “yeah – Cleveland and Minnesota should be interested in Carl (and help drive up his price).” And Antonetti saying, “we did a good job signing Carl and he’s probably priced himself out of our plans for next year now.”

by APV on Nov 11, 2009 3:11 PM EST reply actions

Like with almost every pitcher, he’s looking for years, not salary. They realistically know that Minnesota and Cleveland aren’t going to pony up a 3 year deal.

by Toxicadam on Nov 11, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions