Lackey takes physical for Red Sox
The Nation is very interested in Lackey and a potential deal could happen if the physical goes well. Nothing is imminent.
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Bad as it is, it’s still not Sabathia and Teixiera and Burnett
"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay
by Turkmenbashi on Dec 14, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I know. I mean, it could be worse is all I’m saying.
"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay
by Turkmenbashi on Dec 14, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
There’s really no difference. The Red Sox offered Tex 8 years, $170M. He just took the Yankees money instead.
They bought Beckett and Lowell by absorbing Lowell’s salary, in which he was owed $16M at the time coming off a horrendous season. They bought Schilling. Dice-K. Drew.
Manny Ramirez, whom they previously bought, was flipped for Jason Bay.
Renteria and Lugo didn’t work out, and the Sox paid $11M for Renteria to play elsewhere and $9M for Lugo to play elsewhere next year.
Drafting good players is one thing (and it’s easier to do when you can go above slot multiple times to do it). Actually letting those prospects mature into established players with your club is a whole different story. And even then, developing two starting pitchers (giving them a real shot to be a part of the rotation) in an entire regime is not a sign of success. In Theo’s regime, they’ve developed Lester and I’ll count Bronson Arroyo, since he got his first real shot in Boston. And even then, developing players is a hell of a lot easier when you have surrounded them with the top free agents.
So yes, it’s the same thing. The Red Sox are the Yankees, and the Yankees are the Red Sox.
in which he was owed $16M at the time coming offa horrendous seasonPEDs.
by JulioBernazard on Dec 14, 2009 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
don’t want to start a new thread but there’s rumor of a 3-team blockbuster that involves the Phillies, Toronto, Halladay, Lee, and an unknown team.
Heyman twitter: 3-way trade agreed to with halladay going to phils, cliff lee to mariners. phils trying to lock up roy now.
If only Halladay were an improvement over Lee, this would be a win for the Phillies.
Wait 'til next millennium!
Could be that they think Halladay is cheaper to extend considering Lee is supposedly demanding 23 mill per year
Cliff Lee’s no dummy. He sees the advantage of having Gutierrez patrolling centerfield and not playing in Citizens Bank Park.
And he’s dominated AAA hitters as recently as 2007, so he’s marketable in all arenas.
by xrickx on Dec 14, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Reports are saying that Halladay will agree to an extension as part of the deal. Lee seems intent on pitching 2010 and then raking in the big bucks. Halladay doesn’t have to be better than Lee for this to be a win for the Phillies.
Considering that Lee’s current contract in no way reflects what he’s worth, I can’t say I blame him. The only problem I have with it – he is worth on the market what only a few teams can actually afford to pay. And pitching for two of those teams will render him dead to me.
Welcome back, Sandy! ATALECG...
Seems to be the crux of it. The twitteratti were saying Lee wasn’t going to give the Phils a discount, while Halladay would sign for less than a Santana-esque extension if it meant being on a winning team.
Also, Cliff Lee refused to sign up for the Phillies Book Club. The Kite Runner discussions were really stalling.
Steel Nick
This is a situation I did not see coming
"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay
by Turkmenbashi on Dec 14, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
Meanwhile, Toronto gets prospects. It’ll be interesting to see if they get as good or better as the Carrasco et al package the Indians got for Lee. It sounds from the SI article as if the prospects are coming from Seattle — we’ve done pretty well out of their system in the past few years. Anyone know what they still have to give up in exchange as part of this deal?
'If I'm not here, 'I'll be somewhere else.'' Andy Marte
The Nation is very interested in Lackey and a potential deal could happen if the physical goes well. Nothing is imminent.
Katrina Van denheuvel wants to know if he can edit as well as he pitches.
Wait 'til next millennium!
by emd2k3 on Dec 14, 2009 9:50 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
It’s hard to imagine someone named Lackey working for The Nation
'If I'm not here, 'I'll be somewhere else.'' Andy Marte
by peter m on Dec 14, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, can we not give fans of any team “Nation” status, even snarkily?
"Nobody ever thinks, 'Hey, maybe I’m actually an idiot.'" - Jay
by woodsmeister on Dec 14, 2009 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
Oh no, the Big Bad Sox stole Lackey from the poor, cash-strapped, small-market Angels!
"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay
by Turkmenbashi on Dec 15, 2009 10:29 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
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