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Around SBN: Chan Sung Jung Wins Thriller Over Dustin Poirier

RHPs John Meloan, Adam Miller, Hector Rondon and Juan Salas, LHP Tony Sipp, C Carlos Santana, and 2B Luis Valbuena were optioned to Triple-A Columbus.

RHP Jack Cassel, LHP David Huff, C Armando Camacaro, 1B Jordan Brown, 3B Wes Hodges, INF Jesus Merchan, 1B Beau Mills and OF Stephen Head were reassigned to Minor League camp...There are now 44 players remaining in camp.

Castrovince Reports Second Round Of Cuts. Among other things, this tells us that David Huff isn't going to be the 5th starter and that Meloan won't make the bullpen (if anyone thought that was happening). The Miller thing is interesting-apparently going on the major league DL is not in play, as had been discussed a bit yesterday.

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well, Jay. no service time for miller.

by Brick. on Mar 19, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry, Millionaires. Simul.

Reposting DG’s comment:

So let’s do this. We’re breaking camp with:

Lee
Carmona
Pavano
Reyes
Laffey

Wood
Betancourt
Perez
Lewis
Smith
Kobayashi
Chulk

Martinez
Shoppach
Garko
Hafner
Cabrera
Peralta
DeRosa
Carroll

Sizemore
Choo
Francisco
Dellucci
Barfield

by dgcambridge on Mar 19, 2009 11:45 AM CDT reply reply actions actions 0 recs

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2009 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Do you think he’ll make it?

by dgcambridge on Mar 19, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

only if they cut bait on Masa. I agree Chulk has probably won westbrook’s roster spot. and i suspect if he can go more than one inning at a time, zachson will remain a starter not a long man.

by Brick. on Mar 19, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m going to keep this up. Zach Jackson: Not a throw-in.

by fleerdon on Mar 19, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

did i say he was?

by Brick. on Mar 19, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just doesn’t add up for me, unless Milwaukee was convinced Jackson was a lost cause.

We know at the time of the trade that (1) Shapiro squeezed every last drop of value out of Sabathia, down to a handshake agreement on Green/Brantley, and that (2) Milwaukee had a very shallow rotation and was in a playoff hunt.

Under those circumstances, if we were just getting one other guy, why a AAA starter (who, as it turns out, Milwaukee could’ve used) unless we actually wanted the guy we got?

by fleerdon on Mar 19, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is no doubt that Zach would have started a few games for the Brewers had he not been traded.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 19, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Might he have pitched an NLDS game?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 19, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably he would have. They started Gallardo in Game 1 — 22 years old and just days off a four-month stint on the DL. He went four innings on Sept 25 as his only appearance since May, and I think it’s pretty clear they’d rather have not been using him. Suppan went in Game 3, and he had an 8.44 ERA in five September starts, so that’s not good. Sabathia and Bush were fine choices for Games 2 and 4.

Between Gallardo and Suppan, I have to think Zach would have been in the mix.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 19, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think so too.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 20, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

to clarify. i think his value is roughly equal as a AAA depth starter that we need or a major league long man if we need that.

by Brick. on Mar 19, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, that was a concurring opinion, not a dissent.

by fleerdon on Mar 19, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

i didn’t want it to sound like i didn’t think we need him somewhere.

by Brick. on Mar 19, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we all agree that he can be useful. I would just say that (a) he’s not likely to be anything more than a spot starter or one of the last guys out of the pen, (b) there are dozens of those types sitting around, and ©.

by dgcambridge on Mar 19, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

You just wanted to do the © thing, right?

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 19, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont even know how to do that. Or what it means.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Mar 19, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you type (c), it shows up as ©.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 19, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

how did you type it without the circle, then?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 20, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

use the copyright button. Ironic, isn’t it?

by Logodaedalus on Mar 20, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

One way is to type &#040 ;c) – I added a space between the 0 and semi-colon to keep it from being parsed. Thus (c).

by FredOx on Mar 20, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is how I did it.

That’s also how I do jokey tags that don’t get ignored.

>/phenomenal-genius<

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 20, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, Rondon to Columbus. is that right?

by Brick. on Mar 19, 2009 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

UPDATE: Was given incorrect info earlier. Rondon and Santana to Akron, not Columbus.

by Brick. on Mar 19, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was about to post that. It makes more sense. He pitched for Akron yesterday, and hey, it’s still spring training.

by dgcambridge on Mar 19, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

i glossed over santana the first time, too. which would have clued me off.

by Brick. on Mar 19, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aww, I was kind of hoping Santana had made such a huge impression that the FO made a highly uncharacteristic move. Oh well, back to being only extremely excited to have him around.

Carmona for Cy Young 2009

by danvail on Mar 19, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope nope. You fight your way though the Indians’ farm system, inch by bloody inch.

by fleerdon on Mar 19, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like these guys.

by fleerdon on Mar 19, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sweet, a Zulu reference.

by Ryan on Mar 19, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s actually a direct quote, and photo, from The Man Who Would Be King. I also love Zulu, however.

“Out with you, Hooky, you’ve done your bit.”

by fleerdon on Mar 19, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

FASANO!

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 19, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

This may be a stupid question, but what’s the difference between being optioned to Columbus and being reassigned to Minor League camp? Obviously Columbus isn’t playing yet so where do those players go — are they still in Goodyear but just not playing with the Indians in spring training games any more?

by Buckeye Brad on Mar 19, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

take a look at the names and that will give you a clue. guys on the 40-man, i presume must be optioned.

by Brick. on Mar 19, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

…in order to participate in minor league camp as oposed to major league camp

by Brick. on Mar 19, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly – for the players on the roster, this is a formal “option” usage. For the guys not on the roster, this is just a shuffling of what practice field they show up for without any formal change in their status.

by APV on Mar 19, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

That makes sense, thanks.

by Buckeye Brad on Mar 19, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

you’re quite welcome. no need to thank me, too. it’s implied that you’re not just thanking adam.

by Brick. on Mar 19, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Columbus et al started playing games yesterday.

by dgcambridge on Mar 19, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess most significant is that Scott Lewis is still in the battle for 5th starter.

Also, Crowe, Laporta, Brantley and Aubrey remain eligible for ST play for now. And… Marte!

by mcrose on Mar 19, 2009 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Crowe being the one out of that group with a real shot at starting the season with big league money. Aside from Lewis.

by dgcambridge on Mar 19, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a feeling that Laffey/Lewis is not going to be decided by publicly available criteria, unless one of them implodes.

Laffey Lewis sounds like Taffey Lewis, the casino owner from Blade Runner.

by fleerdon on Mar 19, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

That may be true, but I still think that Laffey has the edge with Wedge just because of experience.

by dgcambridge on Mar 19, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

he’s ultimately going to be the guy he’s most comfortable with allowing to hit the ground running in the majors.

by Brick. on Mar 19, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um, uhhhh, um, y’know. Spice it up a little.

by NickFantana on Mar 19, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Christopher is a good boy — I’ve always liked him. But that other one … I don’t know.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 19, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I take it nobody understood this at all.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 19, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds familiar, can’t put my finger on it.

by NickFantana on Mar 20, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is an Adam Miller joke that goes with this post, I just can’t find it.

by Ryan Kelsey on Mar 20, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sopranos Season 1, Livia subtly orders a hit on Christopher’s running buddy, who’s pissing people off.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 20, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty confident that this is the first Brendan Filone mention in LGT history.

by supermarioelia on Mar 21, 2009 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

You know what? I would have had that dead to rights in about a week. I’m gearing up to re-watch that series…..but I remember it from the first time.

by NickFantana on Mar 21, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sowers obviously still in the mix. In fact, I’d bet its Laffey>Sowers>Lewis right now.

by mcrose on Mar 19, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Laffey>Lewis>Sowers.

by dgcambridge on Mar 19, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m going more on what I think the brass is leaning towards. They weight ML experience very heavily.

by mcrose on Mar 19, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just wanted to pester you.

by dgcambridge on Mar 19, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was only badgered. Pester>Badger!

by mcrose on Mar 19, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t say I necessarily agree with this. Still, Sowers has a lot more Triple-A experience as well and a lot of success there.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 19, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

which makes him the favorite to win the AAA job.

by Brick. on Mar 19, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

GO CAL STATE NORTHRIDGE

WHOOO

WHOOO

So, yeah. Sipp’s going down huh?

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2009 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t even remember Sipp pitching this spring….

4 IP, 3 H, 1R, 1HR, 0BB, 5K

For what it’s worth.

by NickFantana on Mar 19, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

i felt like this was a given all along. same with meloan. i also think it’s a given we see both topside this year.

by Brick. on Mar 19, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

that would have been bad for my bracket

by APV on Mar 19, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s great to see an NRI guy like Chulk make the team (assuming he doesn’t fall apart with three weeks left).

Ben Francisco's only fan on LGT

by Toxicadam on Mar 19, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

^possibly

Ben Francisco's only fan on LGT

by Toxicadam on Mar 19, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

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